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Art & Design So you're interested in ARCHITECTURE? Version 2, A guide to becoming an Architect.

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post Apr 16 2008, 07:52 AM

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Azarimy, i'd like to ask you for architecture programme under matriculation route. wanna ask. How much matric pointer i need to have to get into UTM architecture?

I already considering to go into politeknik. just wanna ask for matriculation route. how do they perform in their degree. which is better matric or politeknik?

matric= time wise.

politeknik= basic, technic, skill, and knowledge wise. include more matured thinking


I'm just asking in case my family force me to go into matriculation.

btw azarimy, when you finish your study, you'll be teaching degree student am I right. one more thing. can you provide route to get into academic field as you are. what is your salary when you start to work as lecturer after getting phd? can lecturer involve in building design project but he is currently a lecturer. will university allow it?

have you taken the part 3 exam? haha. out of topic. just asking.

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QUOTE(destroyer @ Apr 15 2008, 11:52 PM)
Azarimy, i'd like to ask you for architecture programme under matriculation route. wanna ask. How much matric pointer i need to have to get into UTM architecture?


the number varies from year to year. generally u need atleast 3.50 to stand a chance. anything lower than that, u need a helluva portfolio and an absorbing personality. remember that nothing u learn in matriculation will eventually be used in architecture, so portfolio wise, u're gonna have to start from scratch.

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I already considering to go into politeknik. just wanna ask for matriculation route. how do they perform in their degree. which is better matric or politeknik?

matric= time wise.

politeknik= basic, technic, skill, and knowledge wise. include more matured thinking
I'm just asking in case my family force me to go into matriculation.


i'd say, poly would fare better. but to tell u the truth, poly takes more time, although easier and less competitive. i'd always opt for poly anytime.

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btw azarimy, when you finish your study, you'll be teaching degree student am I right. one more thing. can you provide route to get into academic field as you are. what is your salary when you start to work as lecturer after getting phd? can lecturer involve in building design project but he is currently a lecturer. will university allow it?

have you taken the part 3 exam? haha. out of topic. just asking.
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i. normally, it's hard to get an offer straight from degree into academia. u need atleast a few years experience. but i've already made my intentions clear to the entire faculty by 4th year, geared all my assignments, projects and thesis towards academic (rather than practical/professional practice), and most importantly, i became a teaching assistant when i was in my final year, teaching 1st year studio. so by the time i graduated, the school was well aware of my capabilities and interests. they offered me a part-time teaching job (while i practiced for a year) before they finally offered a permanent job.

ii. the starting salary with a phd should be around RM4k (not including allowances etc). it varies depending on field specialization, seniority and the post i will hold eventually (ketua jabatan, ketua penyelidik etc).

iii. yes, all lecturers are even encouraged to practice. this is the only way academicians could be up-to-date with the current practices, as well as becoming the industry experts. most of the lecturers i know are practicing part time or freelancing. a few actually owns their own firm.

iv. no i havent taken the part 3 exam. it's very low in my priority. taking part 3 exam is one thing, maintaining the license is another. if u cant fulfill enough criteria per year, ur license will expire. although there are perks for lecturers to maintain their part 3, but it would get in the way of my research at the moment. so i'm not thinking of taking it right now. but i'm sure eventually i will, just to get the AR infront of my name, along with professor, datuk, doktor, tan sri, kapten, haji or whatever...

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post Apr 16 2008, 09:19 AM

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i see. right now, politeknik result will clash with matric registration day. hope i'll be able to get into poli. want to get into architecture as soon as possible.
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post Apr 16 2008, 07:12 PM

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now i'm in some deep shit. my father doesn't agree with my choice of taking up architecture. he keeps pressing that i'd be working like a contractor if i do. and he prefers me taking business related courses instead = =
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QUOTE(aprisis @ Apr 16 2008, 11:12 AM)
now i'm in some deep shit. my father doesn't agree with my choice of taking up architecture. he keeps pressing that i'd be working like a contractor if i do. and he prefers me taking business related courses instead = =
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well, u should tell him that architects and contractors are two different profession, requiring two different qualifications. to become a contractor, u need a degree/diploma in building construction or construction management. architects do learn about those, but not as deep or specialized. so even if u hold an architecture degree, u should leave expert builders to do the construction. we architects are simply less qualified than they are.
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Apr 16 2008, 07:30 PM)
well, u should tell him that architects and contractors are two different profession, requiring two different qualifications. to become a contractor, u need a degree/diploma in building construction or construction management. architects do learn about those, but not as deep or specialized. so even if u hold an architecture degree, u should leave expert builders to do the construction. we architects are simply less qualified than they are.
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architects can work pass the retirement age izit true?
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QUOTE(aprisis @ Apr 16 2008, 11:46 AM)
architects can work pass the retirement age izit true?
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definitely. as the same with any other self-working people. how old do u think most top architects in the world are? biggrin.gif
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post Apr 16 2008, 08:36 PM

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does it cost a lot to take up architecture?
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post Apr 16 2008, 08:53 PM

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Azarimy once said it cost around rm1600 per sem(degree) for tuition fee in ipta. might cost higher in IPTS

mybe cost will be slightly higher for computer/lappy purpose or model making.

mybe Azarimy can provide further explaination.
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post Apr 16 2008, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(aprisis @ Apr 16 2008, 08:36 PM)
does it cost a lot to take up architecture?
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obviously gonna cost more than rm1600++ if ur planning to study overseas..i dun know the exact number though.. smile.gif
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per sem means per year or?
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post Apr 16 2008, 09:07 PM

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rm1600 per sem in IPTA.

in oberc i dunno. sure cost even higher. same applied to IPTS.
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local..one year..2 sem..so per sem is just for half a year..correct not ?

for overseas i'm not sure..i think its for the whole year..hmm..the best is to check the website urself..they even have the cost of living there... smile.gif

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local IPTS can cost between RM8k - 16k per year.
UK schools are currently has an average of GBP10k to 12k per year.
australian schools cost something around AUD17-25k per year.

these are only for the fees; does not include living costs, equipments or whatever else u need for studying.

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post Apr 16 2008, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Apr 16 2008, 10:07 PM)
local IPTS can cost between RM8k - 16k per year.
UK schools are currently has an average of GBP10k to 12k per year.
australian schools cost something around AUD17-25k per year.

these are only for the fees; does not include living costs, equipments or whatever else u need for studying.
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the fees, and the tuition fees, are count separately?

seriously though, i have no idea wats the difference between the 2 sad.gif

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post Apr 17 2008, 12:05 AM

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QUOTE(aprisis @ Apr 16 2008, 02:27 PM)
the fees, and the tuition fees, are count separately?

seriously though, i have no idea wats the difference between the 2  sad.gif
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fees = tuition fees.

tomahto tomayto. same thing, different sound.
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post Apr 17 2008, 04:18 AM

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can i know all the private universities that offers degree in architecture in malaysia that is not a university college ?
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post Apr 17 2008, 04:49 AM

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QUOTE(sogoatticus @ Apr 16 2008, 08:18 PM)
can i know all the private universities that offers degree in architecture in malaysia that is not a university college ?
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i believe only limkokwing is the only full private university that offers architecture degree.

taylor's, UCSI and twintech are all university colleges.
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post Apr 17 2008, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Apr 17 2008, 04:49 AM)
i believe only limkokwing is the only full private university that offers architecture degree.

taylor's, UCSI and twintech are all university colleges.
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sorry for asking the inappropriate, but wats the difference between university and university college?
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post Apr 17 2008, 10:57 AM

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@azarimy, how much time do you take to finish from diploma until you get your part 2 degree? 7 years?

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