i'll focus straight on the questions. the questions are in bold.

Does landscape architecture deals with anything else besides garden, botanic parks and surrounding area of a building?

landscape architecture is basically environmental design. u design the natural environment from the front yard of ur house to an entire city. so the context is pretty big. however, i'm not sure if landscape architects are qualified to do anything else. but remember than landscape architecture is quite specialized - they're a blend of a designer and a botanist. u'd need to be well off about the science of flora.

do you have to take B.Architecture before you can specialize to landscape architecture?

no. u can take bachelor in landscape architecture straight away from STPM. however, u could also take architecture diploma (after SPM) before going into landscape degree.

A normal bachelor degree only offer till's part1? so does it means we must continue towards master before we can even be a qualified architect?
a very minimum of studies is five years right?( i nv had any idea bout any part 1 or 2 until i checked this thread out)

landscape degrees does not have a part 1, 2 or 3 like architecture. u need a single degree that usually lasts between 4 to 4.5 years. masters is optional, something u take just to specialize into something. finishing ur landscape degree will make u a "Graduate Landscape Architect".

What are the propects for landscape architects in malaysia compare to other countries?

malaysia, as a tropical country, pays more attention to landscape mainly bcoz we are very used to the idea that more trees/plants = better for health/well being. and the best part is, we have a wider range and more importantly a very different range of plant species at our disposal. so if u wanna practice in malaysia, it might be a good idea to do landscape architecture in malaysia, or perhaps in a country which has similar climate as malaysia. what i'm trying to say is, the prospects are still wide. u can see in cities like shah alam, landscape plays a big part in its identity. heck, it is where most landscape architects "experiment" their designs .

Azarimy, why some university put architecture course under faculty of arts? shouldn't architecture be under build environment?

bro aza talked about this once..as far as i understand..its really up to the university to which faculty architecture is to be put or whats the title of the course/degree is as long as it is the same/has the part 1 accreditation..is that right ? correct me if i'm wrong though

not necessarily. architecture is one of those courses that could fall into just about any faculty. in UTM KL it is under engineering school. in skudai, before it is known as built environment, it was known as fakulti senibina. sheffield and the bartlett it is under its own school of architecture. leicester is under faculty of arts. UiTM is under FPSU (fakulti perancangan, senibina dan ukur bahan) while USM under HBU (housing building and planning). there are other schools that are under faculty of science, social science, history or even sociology.

so as u can see, it doesnt really matter bcoz architecture could be any of those things. it is just how the university organizes its courses.

I would like to ask;

Is it true that I will be performing a lot of calculations in Architecture?

Is it true that there will be a lot of Mathematics in Architecture?

I have been told by various people that there will be a lot of Mathematics and calculations to perform in Architecture. (All of the personnels whom my mother have consulted about Architecture so far have all basically said the same thing about Architecture being calculation & Mathematic intensive!)

I would like to know whether what I was told is true?

I'd like to ask some question.

I've read an advertisement from newspaper for Unity College International course which is Diploma Teknologi Senibina. They said that their diploma is a "Collaboration Program With Universiti Teknologi Malaysia". does that means i'll be treated the same as UTM diploma students when applying for degree? can i jump straight into 3rd year or the diploma is just the same as politeknik diploma?

heres the link for UCI

http://www.unity.edu.my/v4/arch/Diploma_Te...i_Senibina.html

not as much as engineering. we do lots of calculations, true enough, but not mathematical calculations per se. u do a lot of figuring out and calculating pros and cons, decision making, choices to make and so on. in BM u refer that as pertimbangan or perbandingan.

but we still do mathematical calculations, most of the time using simple formula or abit of algebra. nothing fancy, bcoz most of the structural calculations are done by the engineers. during drawing productions, u do alot of geometrical calculations, stuff u do in form 4/5. there are also some ledger check & balance, but only basics, bcoz most of these are done by QS. so that's about it.

is that mathematical intensive? if u failed ur maths during SPM, it'll probably be intensive LOL.

i'm not sure. i know several universities have a collaboration programme with UTM, but i'm not sure how far it'll take u in terms of UTM's degree. i'll inquire about it and inform u later.

ok. tanx a lot azarimy. hope to hear from you later on. tanx again.

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Added on April 14, 2008, 8:49 pmone more thing. i think many student don't want to go into architecture fields because long years of studying. haha. correct me if i'm wrong

This post has been edited by destroyer: Apr 14 2008, 08:49 PM

my early sources told me that they will NOT be joining UTM KL's diploma into 3rd year. i've indicated this in page 1. i've just emailed the head-department, and we'll have to wait for his reply.

and yes, most were put off by the long duration. but hey, that's the price of elitism . if u're in a party, three group of people will stand out - doctors, lawyers and architects. all these professions take longer to study, has rigorous professional examinations, and cost a lot. elitism is over rated. but hey, as long as a huge majority of the society thinks these are elite professions, we just enjoy the living .

allright. does that mean that it does not have the same privileges as the diploma hold by UTM KL diploma holder in terms of going into degree? so even i've received diploma from UTM, but not studying it in UTM KL, i'll just have the same diploma as politeknik (in terms of getting the privileges to go into 3rd years in utm which only apply to UTM KL student). am i right?



edited. sorry don't notice this

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Added on April 14, 2008, 10:32 pmsorry, i think there's some mistake from my earlier question. i mean that. it is

can i jump straight into 3rd year degree in UTM with the "collaboration diploma"

or the diploma(from the collaboration uni) will be treated the same as politeknik diploma when applying for UTM degree

This post has been edited by destroyer: Apr 14 2008, 10:33 PM

Thanks, that clears it up for me.

I did not fail in my Mathematics BTW.

I am looking forward to it all in Architecture.

Regards.

i understand exactly what u're saying. the answer is the same.

i'm not implying that u did. i said that u (the reader) will only feel that architecture is math intensive if they failed their SPM maths. if u pass or even scored, it should be easy.

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Added on April 15, 2008, 1:44 amok, i've received the reply clarifying the UCI or any other diploma in collaboration with UTM. here's how it goes:

alot of colleges interested in hosting architecture courses now adopts UTM's diploma teknologi senibina. reason being the prestige and recognition that UTM offers as one of the most established school of architecture. however, bcoz of UTM's policy on quality control, we can not allow a UTM programme be run by others. so in order to solve this problem, we designed a new programme based on UTM's diploma senibina called diploma teknologi senibina.

so from this point on, any college wanting to use UTM's diploma curriculum will use the diploma teknologi senibina. it will be conducted entirely by the college, using its own resource. the product (ie: the students) will still be monitored by UTM, and if satisfactory, will be awarded UTM's diploma teknologi senibina.

now the issue:

diploma teknologi senibina is not equal to diploma senibina. to put it straight: it's a dumbed down version of UTM's diploma senibina. the criteria of award is less strict than diploma senibina, fairly easier and less rigor.

the implication:

UTM does not consider its diploma teknologi senibina to be as good as UTM's diploma senibina, hence they dont qualify to join 3rd year. infact, i was informed that UTM degree considers its diploma teknologi senibina barely qualifies for 2nd year! meaning if ur results arent exemplary, u'd probably couldnt even join 2nd year.

at the moment, UTM ranks its diploma senibina and UiTM's old part 1 diplomas the highest, then poly diploma, then the other diplomas, and eventually UTM's own collaborated diploma teknologi senibina. it's not necessarily how other schools would rank it, but if u're applying to UTM, u might wanna consider about this. so destroyer, since u're already considering poly diploma, i think u're in the right track to join UTM.

hope this clarifies everything.

This post has been edited by azarimy: Apr 15 2008, 01:44 AM

Haha. tanx a lot Azarimy. I never thought that top uni like UTM will treat polytechnic diploma like that. hehe. because most of my family and friends don't want me to go into polytechnic because they said it's hard for polytechnic students to get a job and to continue their study. but you've clarifies that polytechnic diploma is not that bad. tanx again azarimy.

now waiting for 12may for polytechnic result.

edited: does polytechnic diploma recognized worldwide?

This post has been edited by destroyer: Apr 15 2008, 10:45 AM

Azarimy, would you mind listing out all the subjects making up UTM's Diploma in Architecture and UTM's Diploma in Architectural Technology?

I am very curious to know.

Thanks a lot in advance.

[I performed a search at the UTM's webside just now; but without success.]

This post has been edited by Benjamin911: Apr 15 2008, 12:54 PM

it should be good enough for u to skip first year, just as any other diploma would be.

i dont have the subject listings. u could email colleges offering diploma teknologi senibina for the subject listing. i'll try and get the subject listing for UTM diploma.

what i'm expecting is that the subject is more or less the same. but the content is different. since subject content (curriculum) is an intellectual property, i doubt any college/university would openly divulge to any inquests about that.

so far, currently in malaysia, which school is number 1 in architecture? is it UTM? well... that's the reason i want to be in UTM. to get into among the best in Malaysia. azarimy, how much is the current tuition fee per sem in UTM architecture degree?

normally, how many part 2 degree do utm produce each year.

This post has been edited by destroyer: Apr 15 2008, 07:40 PM

nobody can claim their school is the best. it's a biased opinion. also, there's no real gauge or benchmark that could be used to determine which architecture school is the best in malaysia. hence why i always use accreditation as my own personal benchmark - because it is easier to follow and more importantly, it is more credible.

if i were to say UTM is the best, UM has RIBA. if i were to say UM is the best, UiTM produces more part 2 than UM. and USM is more diverse than UiTM, while UTM are stronger in technical sense than USM. so each school is better in something than the other. and each school strives to be really strong in their niche area.




the fees per semester is about RM1600, which is generally the average of any course in an IPTA (except medicine).

normally UTM produces 40 part 2 graduates per year. but recently the average have risen to 60-70 students. the number might go down again due to new control exerted by the faculty members.

hey azarimy

Based on da pic/chart 4.0. Common Paths to Studying Architecture, does Alfa Diploma Non-Part 1 (3 years) can take the LAM Part 1 Exam without having a degree ? can u list some of the other diplomas from other institution that can do so please and thank you..

from my survey and some reading, i've indicate that so far, architecture degree holder can work in, interior design, furniture design, landscape architecture, and of course as an architect.

if anyone know more field, just add in the list.

btw azarimy. regarding the naval architecture. can people with just architecture degree work as naval architect without taking another degree of naval architecture.



does your friends have degree in naval architecture or architecture degree? sorry. i cannot fully understand what r u saying. very2 sorry.

This post has been edited by destroyer: Apr 15 2008, 09:47 PM

hello sogoatticus,

as far as i know, only one diploma is accredited with part 1, that is the UiTM diploma (4 years after SPM). however, i believe the last batch of this group graduated in 2007 (or 2006). now all part 1 certificates in malaysia are degree programmes. there's no diploma of architecture in malaysia that would allow u to take LAM part 1 exam independently.



technically, no. but there's a huge shortage of naval architects in malaysia, so both architects and naval engineers had to combine their expertise to lfill the need.

no. they only have architecture degree.

like i said before, although they're not certified naval architects/engineers, there are alot of areas in naval architecture that overlaps with architecture, so we (the architects) will fill what the engineers couldnt do.