Go here: http://www.mohe.gov.my/soalan_lazim_sub.ph...&subcode=SUB001

doesnt evybody know that govt university intakes are all control by the govt and the ministry?

anyway, anybody here worked in UK before? Whats the fresh grad salary for a B. Arch degree, say in London? Actually im considering doing my internship in London, would love to work at Norman Foster's or Grimshaw's office for this coming holiday.

Hmmm...justin, last time when i worked with Dr. Ken Yeang, one of the staff was working with Foster, he said that, although the salary is high but the cost living in London is really make u sick...

Better u go somewhere in Manchester (haha...MU fan), my senior is there now, and her salary is almost 3k pound sterling...anyway, she'll be there only for a year, this coming June she'll be working at Melbourne, Australia. I asked her why, she said that Aussie is much more better than UK currently...maybe that just her opinion...but it depends...if u really going there (UK)...let us know in here...

This post has been edited by albirri: Feb 26 2008, 09:46 AM

wow, banyak architect come to melb
if all architects run ard, who going to solve our malaysia architecture problem/ crisis and mess?

This post has been edited by KVReninem: Feb 26 2008, 09:51 AM

The less architect there is in Malaysia, the better it is. Architect can demand better pay. Maybe next time Scale of Minimum Fees would be revised to 10-15%

how much would it cost to take the architecture course? (rough estimation)

depends on where u wanna study and for how long. refer to the architectural route diagram in the 1st post. there are various paths u can take both in malaysia, abroad or a combination of the two, as long as u get to part 2 accreditation.

if u're going through IPTA path for 5 years, it'll cost u about RM15k - RM20k for fees and accommodations for the entire duration of study (total 5 years) + about RM25k - RM30k for various other expenses (food, transport, mobile phone, living essentials, stationaries, printing etc).

going through IPTS for full 5 years can take between RM100k - RM250k for fees and accommodations, and about RM25k - RM30k for other expenses.

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Added on February 26, 2008, 6:57 pmthere have been a number of UTM alumni working in foster's, and most of them quit after a few years due to unfavourable environment. i wont badmouth another practice since i myself have never worked there, but i could forward some contacts with those who've worked there if u want. and do join facebook (if u havent), coz there's a group called "malaysian architects in the UK", which is a good contact basis if u wanna do ur practical training here.

This post has been edited by azarimy: Feb 26 2008, 06:57 PM

well.. thanks for the info.. i just join the group... but where is u mr azarimy??

http://elearning1.utm.my/05061/user/view.php?id=112&course=1

what do u mean where am i?

i'm there. find me .

Oh goodies. Going to join Facebook soon then...

eh...i juz read from the taylors website see that the new Bachelor of science(Hons) (Architecture) had juz been started by taylors...i wonder is that part 1? i hope somebody knows about it share something here...thanks...
Im a diploma archi student in taylors though...

thanks for the update mars. i've checked and it's pretty obvious it is a part 1 equivalent. however, it's not accredited by LAM yet. the accreditation process will only take AFTER they've produced the first batch, so if u're it, dont expect an accreditation anytime soon .

Well well, unless the student wants to practice legally in Malaysia.

For those Taylor's Part 1 holder who will proceed to the University of Melbourne later on to finish their Architecture Studies, those people will not be affected by the LAM accreditation.

In addition, those who plan to take Taylor's Part 1 Architecture degree may continue straight to the University of Melbourne later on for the Masters of Architecture (x2 years).

This provide the freedom for Taylor's Architecture students to choose their Part 1 Architecture degree from the University of Melbourne, or from Taylors University College.

Ultimately, both Part 1 degrees will lead to the same path and destination.

Regards.

Oh, and what about the fact that if I opt for Taylor's Part 1 Degree, I would be having the opportunity to study for an extra year in their new Lakeside Campus.

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Added on February 27, 2008, 7:38 pmBTW, now Taylors also seems to have a United Kingdom partnership as well;

http://www.taylors.edu.my/courses/arc/arc_...ing2.php?id=251

Hmmm...that would leave me with another choice in the future.

This post has been edited by Benjamin911: Feb 27 2008, 07:40 PM

btw, taylor is having new architectural degree course~~ so i guess, i will be going for their degree straight since im holding a pre-u cert by right now~

do note that taylor's UK path has one additional year for RIBA part 1. it means from STPM:

3 years degree in taylor's + 1 year RIBA part 1 + 2 years RIBA part 2 (not to mention 1 year practical training in between the RIBAs).

it means u're going through 6 years after STPM instead of 5 years in any other paths. given how most of u seems to make a fuss even with 2 extra months, i dont think most of u would opt for one extra year . and it didnt mention which UK school either. that's another catch. if they managed to get a deal with a good/top schools, they'd be promoting it in their website. just hope it's not some obscure schools nobody have ever heard of...

Well, I personally do not see the extra years of education as a problem, I see it as an excuse to enjoy my study life for longer + to gain more knowledge.

Well, why should other people complain? (It is like that if one desires to have good education overseas in a good university.)

Regarding Taylor's (would be) UK partnership, I doubt they would ever partner with some obscure schools nobody have ever heard of, judging by their present partnership with the University of Melbourne; which is one of the top schools for Architecture.



Are there even obscure schools in the UK anyway?

This post has been edited by Benjamin911: Feb 29 2008, 12:44 PM

there are LOTS of obscure schools in the UK. come here and i'll show u . some of the standard are even lower than IPTAs in malaysia, but they still could offer RIBA part 1 and 2.

anyways, if u weigh the one extra year between experience and another GBP10k per year, i'm pretty sure they'd choose to save the GBP10k and go to australia instead. that's RM 70k extra for learning stuff that u've already learned in taylor's, just to satisfy RIBA's requirement.

Today, I was "Officially" accepted into the Taylor's Architecture program. Before that, Taylors had to consult the University of Melbourne and the Malaysian board regarding my entry requirements, which was their standard procedure of admitting a student into their program.

Finally, the result was out; which was very surprising to say the least. According to the Taylor's admission officer, it was "Ridiculous".

The University of Melbourne accepted me, but the Malaysian board did not!

The reason the Malaysian board did not accept me was because I do not have the SPM! The Taylor's admission officer said that it was simply ridiculous because the American program that I took was having a higher academic standard than the SPM.

As a result;

The ideal option for me in the future, according to the Taylor's admission officer, is to continue working in Melbourne and not come back to Malaysia and work, because the Malaysian government will not recognize me.

Anyway to be honest, before I was even given the news, I was already having the feeling that something like this is bound to happen; where if there is going to be a problem, the problem will not lay with the Melbourne's side, but with the local Malaysian board's side.

It was all so predictable! I can still remember that I was walking to the kitchen during that time, telling myself that "IF there is going to be a problem with my admission, it would not be because of the University of Melbourne, but it would be the problem with the local Malaysian board." When I was presented with the news today, I was somehow not surprised, but yet, it was kinda scary because I realized how true I was earlier...

Anyway, the great news is;

I am finally going to be studying Architecture for real. (The "Doctor" of the complicated buildings around us today, just like the Doctor is to our complex human bodies.)

I will be making sure that I work hard to fulfill my dream; to become a great Architect. However, that is NOT the most important to me. The MOST important to me is to acquire the CAPABILITY to design buildings that are functional, durable, economical, cost effective, efficient, flexible, self sustainable, environment friendly, user friendly, prepared for the worse case scenarios, state of the art, interesting, orderly, impressive, outstanding, hassle free, easy to maintain, and easily manageable. (The most irritating and annoying aspects of our buildings today.) I want to correct all of this and change things for the better of mankind. (I want to BUILD a BETTER tomorrow for mankind!)

This post has been edited by Benjamin911: Feb 29 2008, 06:07 PM

May I ask. If I take Part I from UCSI, can I continue Part II in a different uni? Or must I take both from the same uni?

Thanks