UCSI is not accredit with part 1. it is only part 1 equivalent. switching to another university is a limited option. if u're a certified part 1 holder, then it is no problem. UCSI's degree would mean u still have to take proper part 1 before u start ur part 2. joining an IPTA with part 1 and 2 would mean u will have to go through 3rd year again, finish ur part 1, then only continue for ur 2nd degree in part 2.

From what I understand from PAM's site, If my degree is from an institution that is not accredited by them, I'll have to go for a 2 stage process which includes and interview and a presentation of my portfolio. Only if I fail the 2 stage process will I be required to sit for an additional exam in order for my 1st degree to be recognised as a Part 1 qualification.

Did I get it wrong?

Assuming I managed to pass the 2 stage process and my qualification is deemed to be a part 1 qualification, will I be able to continue with my 2 year degree from any accredited institution thereby satisfying Part 2 in order to be a graduate architect.

Thank you.

that's correct.

however, when referring to holding a degree from an unaccredited institution, it basically means RIBA or RAIA schools which already has an equivalent accreditation. this is bcoz they've already obtained accreditation from their own respective board of architects. UCSI on the other hand is not accredited by any body. it is almost certain that u will have to go through the third stage of the examination.

however, if u do manage to pass the part 1 exam, then yes, u will join the part 2 straight at 4th year (also known as 1st year 2nd degree).

but to be honest, it is far easier to get through final year of part 1 than to take the exams.

This post has been edited by azarimy: Mar 2 2008, 06:30 AM

Just a correction, specifically to UM: If anyone was to do that in UM, they will have to go through 2nd year, not 3rd year.

not quite sure about that. i do know for a non-part 1 diploma u'd go through 2nd year. but this is a part 1 degree equivalent. i will check on this later.

thank you.

Hmmm...I'm also unsure, but so far there's only diploma holders entering UM after Part 1...so I thought it may be the same.

I am really looking forward to be taught how to design buildings. (E.g. planning out the floor plans, planning out the build in units/facilities, planning out the DESIGN/LAYOUT of the building etc...I am feeling very excited about all this!)

I wonder in Architecture, will I get to determine the PERSPECTIVE of the people on the buildings, cities, or facilities, as they are approaching it, or leaving it? (Lets imagine that I am designing a city. I want to determine the views the people would be having on the city as they are approaching it. Perhaps, I would like the people to enter into the city's region via a high bridge that will continue to lead them all the way to the main city. Then perhaps I would like to place the interesting buildings onto reclaim lands located further out from the main city, and then make the high bridge cross directly over those region containing those interesting buildings, as it leads the people on to the main city. In other words, I want to plan the people's perspective on the city, building, or facility as they are approaching it, or leaving it.

Will the Architect be having the power to perform all of those above?

what about plymouth?

neway,jz to inform..im from uia pj..will be finishing my foundation in architecture probably by junr

first, dont put ur expectations too high. design is a training that must go through a process. one of the most famous advice in architecture is "dont jump the gun", meaning dont skip the essential steps just because u wanna get there faster. process is the most important element in architecture and design, and this includes ur education to become an architect.

all that aside, yes, u will get to design literally everything in a building. it's the closest profession to playing god (aside from politicians) - u get to play with people's lives. u can do all that, with only one shortcoming - will u be able to convince others? .

hence why people also say - architects are the greatest salesman. they sell a product that is not even built yet, and they get paid to design whatever they want!

Azarimy, thanks a lot for adding even more motivation and inspiration in me to become an Architect!

I never have any plans to jump any guns! (I am not the type that like to take any shortcuts!.)

I hope to enjoy my Architecture education really.

Any idea what would I be doing in my first semester, all the way up to my first year? (I believe I would be performing intensive Arts and Crafts right?)

not sure about plymouth's specialization or reputation. perhaps u should refer to the rankings.

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Added on March 4, 2008, 8:26 pm1st semester are usually the orientation semester. typically, the objectives of this semester are:

i. to level the playing field
each student came from a different background. an urban student may be more exposed to various designs and more outgoing, a characteristics crucial for architecture. so what 1st sem does is to bridge the gap between the students.

ii. to use the same language
not BM, BI, mandarin or anything, but the vocabulary in architecture is very different from layman's terms. "open space" could mean a multitude of different descriptions of a space, and it doesnt necessarily mean a space outside a building.

iii. to introduce the culture of design
design is a culture, a collection of behaviours of designers in the production of design. u will be introduced on what the design process is all about, and how to use them to structure ur thoughts, ur abilities and skills in order to achieve the objective of each project.

iv. to instigate designer's attitude
this is so that each individual designer complies to the nature of design.

v. to train essential design/production skills
and finally this is to train u how to draw, visualize, reiterate ur thoughts, manipulate the media and so on with a sole purpose: to communicate.



basically those are the typical objectives for 1st semester (and sometimes the entire 1st year) for architecture. but different schools may approach it differently. some schools may have nothing architectural in 1st semester, while others just simply jump straight into the warm waters of architectural designing. u may explore the nature of fine arts, contemporary designs and so on, or u may be brought straight to design ur own room and eventually ur dream house. it varies alot, but in essence, the 1st year objective remains the same, give or take a few.

This post has been edited by azarimy: Mar 4 2008, 08:26 PM

Lets say if I take STPM, what stream should I take? Art Stream or Science Stream?

read the first post. either way also can .

1. We don't get to design whatever we want...
2. We don't get to set the pricing much...and some just don't get paid the way it was meant to be...



Specifically, you will be dealing with the meaning of space (what is space? does it need to have a wall? does it need roof? does it need to be enlcosed?). Then, you deal with anthropometry and ergonomics (in LimKokWing and UM, you get to build one-to-one-scale furniture). Next, you will be dealing with concept and intentions (very hard for me to give example for new undergrads). After that, you deal with style and substance or form and function. Mix and match with design presentation, drawing skills, drawing standards and schemes, etc. And your final for 1st year may be to design a house or something of that size. I did a writer's retreat in Gunung Ledang...and yes, you get to travel a lot to sites.

Hi hi , sorry. I don't know where to ask. Therefore, I posted here.

Do anybody know URA colour codes? It's something like the indications of colours for types or functions of the buildings in the map.

I need it urgently for my assignment. I tried to search from the internet but I just couldn't find. Anyone knows it , please tell me where i could get it from, or send the files to me, or simple type the link for me. Thank you very much.

Arch student.

Azarimy & Clayclws, thanks a lot; those were so informative!

Azarimy, what do you mean when you said that Architecture students need to be "Outgoing"? (Outgoing in the sense of socializing around with the other students? Isn't that what every students are doing in colleges/universities? )

What is the "particular" outgoing characteristic that the Architecture student need to have?

Thanks a lot in advance.

BTW, what would I basically be drawing in the first year?

When will I get the chance to start designing buildings? (This is one of the primary reasons why I am looking forward to study Architecture!)

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I am not sure whether this will be healthy for my Architecture education, but I tend to favor "Systematic/Geometrical" looks over "non Systematic/non Geometrical" looks. I like it to look technical, futuristic, orderly, systematic, and geometrical, instead of it looking unpredictable, erratic, disorganized, messy, free flow, and uncontrolled like. In addition to that, I also tend to control my designs too much, and tend to restrict it to a certain style, or rule. My designs have rules in it! (Think of rigid designing.)

I am not sure whether this will be having a negative impact on my designs in the future...

*When I talk about "my" designs, I am referring to the rigid design mentality that is in me today. As long as I have to design/draw something out of my mind, the result would be looking rather "industrial" and technical like, rather then looking truly Artistic.

Formally, I thought of "Architecture" as technical, full of complicated geometry/straight lines, full of precision in the drawings, full of technical looking buildings/skylines (Think of glass & steel buildings), full of measurements, full of technical drawings etc...which I really like a lot....

Today, Architecture seems to be more than just those to me, which makes me feel the urgency to get myself prepared for the new found challenges...(Challenges which I am currently very weak in...)

To be very honest, I am very weak in the social aspect, the communication aspect, the free flow of thought aspect (my thoughts are always somehow rigid and controlled), the design freely aspect (My designs are always fixed and always bounded by some sort of rules), and in the Arts & Crafts! (Arts & Crafts is indeed one of my greatest weakness!) I have always dreaded Arts & Crafts! You want me to talk about my drawing as well??? I am really bad in drawing you know, unless you pass me a ruler and ask me to draw everything in straight lines and polygons.

OMG, perhaps the next thing I will hear is that "Architecture isn't for me"!

Perhaps Architecture is only suitable for those who are truly Artistic and outgoing? (I get afraid whenever I hear of the words "Artistic" and "Outgoing"; simply because I am very weak in those aspects... )

Anyway;

I decided on Architecture by using the POE (Process of elimination) method. Instead of choosing a course from the list of all the courses, I eliminated the courses slowly one by one until I ended up with the likely remaining candidates. Finally, I narrowed down the list even further and ended up with Architecture and Engineering. I decided that Engineering was too unpredictable (I do not have the confidence that I can make it!), too risky to attempt (What if I cannot pass it no matter how hard I try???), very Mathematic intensive (I can imagine what a calculator dependent guy like me would be facing!), and based from my pass bad experience of getting stuck in Math problems! (Math is NOT fun! I am only motivated when I can show to other people that I can perform such complicated equations! But for how long can I live with such nonsense??? It won't be a big deal anymore in the future when I would also be faced with the truth of Engineering...)

So that left Architecture for me, nothing else. Considering that Architecture managed to make it to the top of the list and be the only one remaining in my list of courses; it is "Logically" the choice. (I could not find any other courses that could take its place.) [Engineering was the closest course to take its place, but Architecture was more convincing, assuring, and secured to me.]

I prefer something that I can work hard to achieve, and the results will show it! Not something like some evil quiz where you either know it and pass (Progress), or do not know it and fail (Get Stuck!). Math is one such thing!

Getting stuck in design is not as bad as getting stuck in Maths IMO! The latter is irritating, frustrating, nail biting, head/brain cracking, sore to the eyes, agonizing, and 100% stagnant!! At least getting stuck in design, you get to explore, try out new things, explore out new concepts, and continue to mess around and explore even more...By the time you have solved the problem, you would have learned so many things; and have designed (Achieved) so many things! (You might even end up with something even more remarkable!)

Regards.

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context, my dear friend. i was referring to the part where u become the greatest salesman. u're not an architect yet if u still succumb to what the client wants . the architect should be able to coerce the client to do whatever he wants, that's why we do what we do.

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Added on March 5, 2008, 7:36 pmoutgoing:

most college/university students tend to be outgoing. but none of those courses REQUIRE them to be outgoing. architects will be trained to socialize, and they live in an environment where if u dont socialize, there's only so much u can gain.

in architecture, u learn more from ur peers than ur teachers. from my readings on architecture education, peers contribute to about 50% of ur knowledge gained in architecture, 20-30% from lecturers/educators, and the rest from personal reading, ideas and experience. if all this time u've been stuck in ur room reading and doing work alone, u're missing 50% of the potential knowledge that u could gain in architecture.

that's why architects work in the studio amongst other designers, not working alone in their room like an anti-social dork .

it is not only for studying. in practice, architects are bound to interact with various different people, from professionals to authorities to clients. all requires the social skills to convince them to do what the architect wants. most often, u'll need to convince the civil engineers that ur weird design is buildable, and they have to calculate and endorse it. civil engineers are a tight bunch in malaysia, most of them arent willing to go outside the box and do weird stuff. so u gotta convince them to do it.

and what about clients? clients are the hardest people to convince. there are lots of stuff that architects can/want to do, but how do u convince the clients to agree? they havent even seen the product yet, how do u expect them to say yet? imagine a direct seller coming to ur home trying to sell a product that's not even in production yet...

social skills are essential for the architect. if u cant socialize, then u'll become the designer who sits at the back of the office, infront of the computer doing work. the real architect will be the frontman of the firm, and that's where the money is. designers are worth less bcoz they only produce designs, the frontman gets the projects into the firm. no frontman, no designer laa .



This post has been edited by azarimy: Mar 5 2008, 07:36 PM

Azarimy, doesn't the outgoingness that you are talking about also applies to the other courses and professions too? Wouldn't the Engineer, the Technician, the Quantity Surveyor, the Construction Manager, the Interior Designer, and the Business man all need to be "Outgoing" as well?

I can believe that the Craftsman, Draftsman, and Scientist does not have to be as "Outgoing" as the Architect; due to the fact that they would usually be performing the job upon command, or personally in the laboratory. However, the Engineer, the Technician, the Construction Manager, the Quantity Surveyor, the Interior Designer, and the Business man, (like the Architect), all have to be performing supervisions, interactions, and discussions with the team. (Am I correct?)

The Architect does not seems to be the exception in here.

URA? As in the Urban Redevelopment Authority of Singapore? You're not looking at the right place. Most ppl here wont know. You need to ask probably in a Singaporean architecture forum. Try this link.

http://tas.informe.com/forum/