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Art & Design So you're interested in ARCHITECTURE? Version 2, A guide to becoming an Architect.

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tomatos
post Sep 25 2008, 11:51 PM

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What happens to those that completed part 1 and doesn't get a place to finish up part 2?

Malaysian BArch are only available at IPTA right? Do they accept students with part 1 qualifications that are done privately?
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QUOTE(tomatos @ Sep 25 2008, 03:51 PM)
What happens to those that completed part 1 and doesn't get a place to finish up part 2?

Malaysian BArch are only available at IPTA right? Do they accept students with part 1 qualifications that are done privately?
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part 1 is still a professional qualifications. refer to the first post in this thread. if they couldnt get a place for part 2, they can work as an architect's assistant or technician. gaining 1 or 2 years experience would enhance their resume the next time they apply for part 2.

no, there are BArchs offered in IPTS as well, but they are not accredited with part 2. also, as far as i know, no IPTS are accredited with part 1 either. u could still study there, but u wont be able to jump straight to part 2 in an IPTA. u either have to obtain ur part 1 independently, or sit for an extra year for ur part 1 in the IPTA.
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post Sep 26 2008, 12:58 AM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Sep 26 2008, 12:13 AM)
part 1 is still a professional qualifications. refer to the first post in this thread. if they couldnt get a place for part 2, they can work as an architect's assistant or technician. gaining 1 or 2 years experience would enhance their resume the next time they apply for part 2.

no, there are BArchs offered in IPTS as well, but they are not accredited with part 2. also, as far as i know, no IPTS are accredited with part 1 either. u could still study there, but u wont be able to jump straight to part 2 in an IPTA. u either have to obtain ur part 1 independently, or sit for an extra year for ur part 1 in the IPTA.
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I couldn't find BArch offered in IPTS.

If I would take BSc in Architecture in an IPTS, how do i get obtain my part 1 independently since it is not accreditted? Is it like what was mentioned in the first post, that i need to take a part 1 exam?

Do IPTA accepts students that take up BSc in Architecture privately? So if i got BSc in Architecture, one way to get part 1 is by joining IPTA for 1 year?

After completing my BSc in Architecture in IPTS, do i need part 1 to apply to overseas universities to complete part 2?

Thanks alot.
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QUOTE(tomatos @ Sep 25 2008, 04:58 PM)
I couldn't find BArch offered in IPTS.

If I would take BSc in Architecture in an IPTS, how do i get obtain my part 1 independently since it is not accreditted? Is it like what was mentioned in the first post, that i need to take a part 1 exam?


yes.

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Do IPTA accepts students that take up BSc in Architecture privately? So if i got BSc in Architecture, one way to get part 1 is by joining IPTA for 1 year?


yes, as i've explained before. u can either take 1 year part 1 in an IPTA or do take an independent part 1 exam.

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After completing my BSc in Architecture in IPTS, do i need part 1 to apply to overseas universities to complete part 2?

Thanks alot.
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it's totally up to u. there are no restrictions on where u can study, as long as u fulfill the part 1 accreditation. some IPTS have a partnership programme an overseas university. u dont need to fulfill the part 1 requirements if u study there. for example, LUCT have a partnership with curtin (australia) while taylor's with melbourne.
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post Sep 26 2008, 01:39 PM

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So the first thing i need to get done is 3 years BSc in Architecture and complete the part 1 exam before i could do anything else further?

What is the maximum numbers of years allowed between the completion of part 1 and part 2? Let's say an example, I must take part 2 no longer than 2 years after my completion of part 1. Is there such a thing?
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QUOTE(tomatos @ Sep 26 2008, 05:39 AM)
So the first thing i need to get done is 3 years BSc in Architecture and complete the part 1 exam before i could do anything else further?


yes. it is safe enough to say that u dont need to worry about part 2 until u've finished part 1, as long as u have good enough grades. u need at least 3.00CGPA to land a good chance of securing a place, 3.30 and above should be good enough to absolutely secure one.

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What is the maximum numbers of years allowed between the completion of part 1 and part 2? Let's say an example, I must take part 2 no longer than 2 years after my completion of part 1. Is there such a thing?
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there are no maximum years between part 1 and 2. u can work 40 years with ur part 1 and only take ur part 2 when u're 60, no problem biggrin.gif.
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well, well , aza, this thread seems more lively than tanggam itself, good job. wink.gif
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What about the institution to do the BSc in Architecture? Does it matter which institution i got the degree from?
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QUOTE(blockflop @ Sep 26 2008, 06:18 PM)
well, well , aza, this thread seems more lively than tanggam itself, good job. wink.gif
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there's only one thread here in LYN, and basically it's about people inquiring about architecture.

now, WTF are u doing here? tongue.gif

QUOTE(tomatos @ Sep 26 2008, 06:59 PM)
What about the institution to do the BSc in Architecture? Does it matter which institution i got the degree from?
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as long as it has a part 1, it doesnt matter. for malaysian schools with part 1, refer to the first post.
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Will i be able to secure a place in UM/UTM with 3.30CGPA?

Anyway my parents wants me to go to australia if i have to do it overseas. Will i be able to work there once i graduated if let's say the MArch is accreditted by Australian Institute of Architects?
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QUOTE(tomatos @ Sep 29 2008, 08:18 PM)
Will i be able to secure a place in UM/UTM with 3.30CGPA?


assuming u do well in the interviews, yes.

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Anyway my parents wants me to go to australia if i have to do it overseas. Will i be able to work there once i graduated if let's say the MArch is accreditted by Australian Institute of Architects?
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im studying 2nd year at uni of lincoln now, its recognised by lam, but im the only malaysian studying the course lol, weird. great place tho, just hate the accent
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hey~~~just logged in and realised the last time i was here was 21 Aug =_=
anyway, ehem. Reporting from HKU Arch smile.gif just got my *new* (XD) notebook 4 days ago so still in a hyper mood haha.

Just had my first real critique on Mon but got another assignment due next Mon already =_= but i really like the studio here...will work hard smile.gif
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Simple question~ how much does an architecture earn? from beginner part 1 level to part 3 level??
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post Oct 5 2008, 01:33 AM

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What about MQA accreditation? Is it important? Currently only LUCT is MQA accreditted.
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QUOTE(JapanKid89 @ Oct 4 2008, 05:33 PM)
Simple question~ how much does an architecture earn? from beginner part 1 level to part 3 level??
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with a part 1, u're not an architect yet. u're an architect's assistant or technician. u can earn starting from RM1.3k with no experience up to about RM3k with 10 years experience. usually dont expect anything higher than RM4k throughout ur life time, especially if u're working for other people.

with a part 2, u're an architect. u can earn from RM1.8k (sub-urban areas) or RM2k (urban areas), and up to RM5k with 10 years experience. the highest part 2 earner i know gets about RM8k.

with a part 3, there's virtually no limit to what u can earn. if u're working for other people, u'll probably get atleast RM6k. if u own ur own office, then u earn practically 8-11% of the project cost. (a bungalow project costs about RM2mil, u can earn up to RM200k easily. but ofcourse, the bungalow could span between 6 to 12 months.)



the numbers above assume that the economy is good. with what's going on right now, i think the economy is highly unstable. the numbers may go down in 6 to 12 months from now.

QUOTE(tomatos @ Oct 4 2008, 05:33 PM)
What about MQA accreditation? Is it important? Currently only LUCT is MQA accreditted.
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MQA, previously known as LAN, is a standard that controls all educational certificates in malaysia, regardless of course or field. if LUCT is accredited by MQA, it means the degree complies with the minimum international standard. but remember, it only means they comply to the MINIMUM standard. a professional standard for architecture in malaysia is accredited by LAM, and is set pretty high to determine the high quality of architectural education.
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Can anyone recommend any good books (to use as a textbook maybe?) for these subjects: 1. environmental science; 2. Human settlements; 3.building construction; 4.build environment .

Thanks!
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MQA, previously known as LAN, is a standard that controls all educational certificates in malaysia, regardless of course or field. if LUCT is accredited by MQA, it means the degree complies with the minimum international standard. but remember, it only means they comply to the MINIMUM standard. a professional standard for architecture in malaysia is accredited by LAM, and is set pretty high to determine the high quality of architectural education.


Taylor's diploma in architectural technology is accredited by LAN...Presently, does that mean it is accredited by MQA?

Is there anything to indicate the quality of diploma programs in architecture?

P.S.;

Do you think Taylor's diploma program in architecture is a good one? :D (Just curious to know your opinion. :))

Regards.

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QUOTE(bononoz @ Oct 5 2008, 06:40 AM)
Can anyone recommend any good books (to use as a textbook maybe?) for these subjects: 1. environmental science; 2. Human settlements; 3.building construction; 4.build environment .

Thanks!
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first, there is no textbooks in architecture. u are strongly urged NOT to rely in only one or two similar books. architecture is so subjective due to its over reliance to perceptual opinions. for example, if u're looking into the subject of human settlements, there are atleast 4 very different school of thoughts that may contradict each other. so how would u differentiate?

any book can be a good book. it's just a matter how good it can be to u.

take for example in environmental sciences, most might believe that ken yeang's bioclimatic ideas would be the leading or prominent ideology. but a colleague of mine, incharge of the environmental research group in UTM, have published evidence that his ideas doesnt always work as he claims to be. ofcourse, he doesnt offer any alternatives yet, but we can already see what went wrong in the bioclimatic idea.

which should u follow? the already debunked bioclimatic ideas, or the new research that have yet to produce anything fresh? biggrin.gif

QUOTE(Benjamin911 @ Oct 5 2008, 07:09 AM)
Taylor's diploma in architectural technology is accredited by LAN...Presently, does that mean it is accredited by MQA?

Is there anything to indicate the quality of diploma programs in architecture?

P.S.;

Do you think Taylor's diploma program in architecture is a good one? biggrin.gif (Just curious to know your opinion. smile.gif)

Regards.
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MQA is the rebranded LAN. so if a course is accredited by LAN, it is accredited by MQA. MQA covers diplomas, degrees, masters and certificates as well.

currently there are no real indicator for the quality of diploma programmes. a school is normally gauged by their degrees. this is a matter of perception rather than a scientific one. if a school has a good degree school, it is assumed that their diploma is equally good too, and vice versa.


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post Oct 5 2008, 11:06 PM

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So basically we are taking the BSc just to qualify for the Part 1 examinations?

Is there possibility that i am not allowed to sit for the Part 1 exam if the degree is accreditted by MQA?

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