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Art & Design So you're interested in ARCHITECTURE? Version 2, A guide to becoming an Architect.

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post Sep 27 2008, 02:18 AM

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well, well , aza, this thread seems more lively than tanggam itself, good job. wink.gif
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post Mar 18 2009, 02:06 AM

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QUOTE(Bit @ Mar 16 2009, 02:07 PM)
can anyone tell me any shop around KL area that sells architect stuff e.g. fan scale ruler? tq.
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not really sure what the shop is called, but its located within the bustling petaling street. nanyang i think.

they have tons of art supplies. hopefully u can get what u want there


Added on March 18, 2009, 2:12 am
QUOTE(cottonkandy @ Mar 17 2009, 09:56 PM)
if i get 2.00 above for metric/stpm does it mean i terus can go in UTM or they will chose which U i will go to?

and if i take the whole course in UTM or any local Uni, then can i work oversea? local U is not recognize by RIBA and oversea rite?

taylor's got full time in malaysia wan? or MUST go oversea for the last 2 year?
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ur 1st q : firstly,u have to apply for ur preferred choice of universities , then they will review ur results ( cukup syarat) , then if u get chosen for utm(for example) , u have to undergo an interview(at this stage, pointers dont really matter, but dont expect to join in with only 2.00 CGPA)


whole course in UTM , although its without RIBA, it is still recognized internationally ( we do have LAM Part 2) , bear in mind that RIBA is just an association, having accreditation by RIBA means ur getting recommendation from an architectural association (which is a bonus but not required).

currently , theres only three universities in malaysia that has LAM part 2 (azarimy , correct me if im wrong ) , UTM + USM + UM

not too sure bout taylors , but why would u want to go there in the 1st place?


Added on March 18, 2009, 2:14 am
QUOTE(yangsquare @ Mar 14 2009, 01:39 AM)
I can only imagine part III is on architectural practices and management.
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thats only in malaysia , the scenario might be entirely different overseas. (e.g to sit for part 3, u need min 2years workin experience in malaysia, whereas its only a year in UK) .. of course, what theyl look into is different

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post Mar 18 2009, 02:19 AM

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QUOTE(bubble5504 @ Mar 10 2009, 03:51 PM)
i juz check my result...
i got CGPA 2.33, WORST ENOUGH!!
is there still possible for me to get in UTM architecture..??
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it is possible , but its gonna be tough , cross ur fingers and hope for the best

QUOTE(cottonkandy @ Mar 12 2009, 06:17 PM)
hey, can i take architecture if i never took arts in secondary? i took science stream in secondary, i never attend or have any knowledge about arts. can i actually cope with the class?
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yes u can, i took science for both secondary and matriculation.. and no i have never attended anything related to arts.

but i do believe if u have the passion for it, go ahead. coping is not an issue , ask azarimy bout this and im sure hel say the same


Added on March 18, 2009, 2:26 am
QUOTE(mashed potatoes @ Mar 18 2009, 02:17 AM)
to azarimy:

hi there... first of all, i really really wanna give u a big THANK YOU (n to evryone else who has countributed everything and anything regarding architecture...) u have no idea how RELIEVED and GRATEFUL i am to have actually come(or rather, stumbled) upon this forum(i nvr knew this existed...tongue.gif)...i had so many question in my mind, and have no seniors to go to (most of them taking other stuff..)..so this is like my "bible" to architecture now...smile.gif

anyway, i have a confession to make..
my stpm results isn't really good, my cgpa is 2.67 only...sob sob...
will i have any chance at all in gaining an interview? (i wouldn't mind being grill by the lecturers...)

i took art during my spm...does this help at all? but unfortunately, i dun have any portfolio at all...is it ok if i start drawing now? i mean, watercolors....does the drawing have to all focus on buildings, or i can just focus on drawing wat i want?

my childhood ambition was actually to be a doctor...but i guesss it was more on saying it than actually mentally preparing myself to be a doctor...in saying so, i was actually more interested in art's and design than in science, where i would actually have thoughts like, y should this building be built up this way when it can be design in another way...and stuff like tat...

and i hav to admit after reading all that u've wrote, i'm actually even more determine now than ever to study architecture....however, i'm still really new 2 this subject, and am goin to the national library tmrw to see if i can borrow a few about architecture to brush up my knowledge about it...anyway, can u (azarimy), pls pls giv me some pointers on how to excel in the interview? (i'm mentally preparing myself that i will get tat interview...fingers crossed.. ;p) i noe i need to have my portfolio, hone my public speaking skills(to be able to comunicate  flawlessly, get to noe foriegn and local architects and their work....is there anything else that i'm missing?
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for a start , ur pointers, there is always a chance in getting an interview,fortunately, result isnt the only thing they look for in an architecture student

having arts background does help , but not necessarily required, its ur passion that counts, and no, no portfolios needed as of this moment (but if u have it ,its a bonus, seriously) focus on what u want to draw, frankly , i drew a watch that just happened to be infront of my eyes.

to excel in the interview? be urself, be confident, the interviewers are most likely prone to chat with you, see the character in you, perhaps u can call it a discussion, to determine if u have the qualities and interest in architecture itself. just dont try too hard and be(fake).

by thinking critically (" y should this building be built up this way when it can be design in another way...and stuff like tat...") its already a good start

All the best to you and i do hope ul get what u want in the near future... cheers


Added on March 18, 2009, 2:31 am

QUOTE(cottonkandy @ Mar 12 2009, 11:12 PM)
then how to be considered qualify to be legally practise in malaysia?
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having a degree/diploma/education certified by LAM (part 1 , 2 or 3)

for local ipta(s) that has LAM part 2 checkout Persatuan arkitek malaysia website


Added on March 18, 2009, 2:33 am
QUOTE(Cenarius @ Feb 23 2009, 08:35 PM)
HOW DID HE DO THAT?  shocking.gif
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practice , practice , practice

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post Mar 18 2009, 03:27 PM

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refer to previous posts by azarimy, theres currently several institutions (local IPTA and IPTS) that offers degree, but most importantly look for one that has been accredited by LAM. Part 2 preferably . theres UTM USM and UM , the others might Have Part 1 but not part 2 . cheers
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post Mar 18 2009, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(kickent @ Mar 18 2009, 05:11 PM)
can i go for archi degree?im from comp science dip from ipta..if can, where uni can accept and how long duration to complete?
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im afraid even with a comp science dip, to get a degree in architecture will take another 5years. unless u have a dip in arch or anything related (arch science) then it will be three years(3)
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post Mar 18 2009, 05:48 PM

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arch science - a name for diploma program,basics in architecture. something like what USM offers. a 3years degree program (but only part 1) called sains something... no, not physics chemicstry.

having basics in drawing will help you in ur earlier years, however, having a com science dip does not, meaning it will be a 5year study duration for you (straight degree) or 3years (arch diploma) + 3years (degree) << though this option is viable if ur joining in straight after spm.

which uni u can go>? browse through previous pages(last few) , forumer azarimy has listed a few .. again, check the accreditation, it matters.


is architecture market in demand ?? yes.
fact : malaysia has one of the lowest ratio of architect vs citizens, meaning we have only a few professional architects, and not enough to meet the standards of a modern world (or at least the standard that a modern country has).

no , maybe this year will be little low on the economical side, bringing less investors, and less construction projects. but hey, if u join architecture, by the time ur done, id bet there situation is fairly better smile.gif


Added on March 18, 2009, 5:53 pm
QUOTE(ikaika @ Mar 18 2009, 05:30 PM)
hmm i'm wondering which is the best path to take architecture ?get into uni & do diploma or foundation or take matrics then go to uni?
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to me , the difference is here.

if u take matrix and go to university ----

it will most likely be a 5year direct degree program (meaning u cant screw up with ur pointers along the way or its back to square one) but , going to matrix does give you the extra time to actually plan what u want to do (additional time for u to think).




dip -
3 years after taking dip and your pointers will be reset to zero , and if u joined a uni with Part 1 accreditation, u can actually stop for a while (prob for working exp as a tech.assistant or anything similar, anyhow, this is just an option) then rejoin the degree program to get your part 2 qualifications. smile.gif


Added on March 18, 2009, 5:54 pmarch science - architectural science (anything related to the studies of architecture)

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post Mar 18 2009, 07:03 PM

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QUOTE(kickent @ Mar 18 2009, 05:59 PM)
oh, i remember.arch science such a interior design or sumthin.

actually im from UITM, but there is no chance for other course other than u mention above eligible to furhter in archi degree..im just want to know whether any ipta or ipts taking diploma student from other science course...                   u archi student, rite?

im sorry for asking, is there any impressive skyscraper done by Malaysian, here in Malaysia since i know KLCC architect is Argentinian..(im lazy to google,lol)
no longer a student( 30days to go)


its a rare case for a university to accept a student with a dip of totally diff background into the degree program.

not sure if ill call this impressive (i hate the color) but telekom tower is done by malaysian (hijjas kasturi)


google these two names (old timers) - kenyeang (famous even overseas), hijjas kasturi

theres a few others, maybe next time....


Added on March 18, 2009, 7:05 pmor browse through these firms


ZLG sdn bhd
GDP Architects
ZDR
VERITAS design group

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post Mar 18 2009, 07:30 PM

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haha, already got a job, working on some projects, getting good pay and doing masters at the same time so its not bad. biggrin.gif but yeah, i admit graduating with 100 others is not a good thing in bad times

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post Mar 18 2009, 08:09 PM

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in the end its all up to you, piece of advice,what u learn in matriculation is irrelevant ..(thats what i learned LOL) but it sure does give you more time to think.

now ur that determined, go for it. one more thing, for most of the lecturers in utm who have children pursuing architecture , theyre in the dip program... smile.gif
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post Mar 18 2009, 08:41 PM

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on the contrary , im in the 5 year degree program. i never had anyone to advice (was in matrix labuan), but i always wanted UTM (good reputation) so here i m now.
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post Mar 19 2009, 12:39 AM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Mar 18 2009, 09:16 PM)
hold on there. if u really think about it, there hardly anything u've learned in SPM that is really relevant to architecture.

people say u need maths, addmaths, physics and so on. but that's pure crap. i've been teaching architecture for almost 7 years now. most of the things u need is PMR level, and perhaps 1 chapter in maths (geometry) and 1 chapter in physics (load). other than that, everything will be taught from scratch.

so if u say u wanna avoid matrics bcoz u wont learn anything towards architecture, hey, u've wasted 2 years learning for SPM already. what's another year eh?

one thing u should know about the diploma->degree in UTM. the intake to UTM diploma is about 45 students currently. intake from UTM diploma to UTM degree is about 10-15 students only. so if u're not in the top 1/3 of ur batch during ur diploma, u'd be hard pressed for a place for ur degree.
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true. though its not relevant, but matrix gives you another year to spend time thinking and evaluating options, rather than rushing into decision
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post Mar 20 2009, 12:49 AM

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unless its stated (by the IPTS) " A levels or equivalent" in which case its allright
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post Mar 20 2009, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Mar 20 2009, 05:29 AM)
matrics, like foundations, are not considered equivalent to A-levels. STPM on the other hand, is.
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oh, interesting. foundations is definitely not A-levels, but matrics is ..

what u learn in matrix is similar to those of stpm only its in a shorter duration.
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post Mar 21 2009, 12:30 AM

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i think whatever path u take, if u have the will to join architecture, sooner or later ul get it, its just a matter of time.

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post Jun 8 2009, 11:02 PM

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why would you pick laptop in the 1st place. wouldnt it be better to have a superb PC(which might be cheaper). its not like ur moving around to do ur CAD , rendering, sketchup etc etc.

it doesnt matter if its Nvidia or Ati. just get a good graphic card (rm1k++) and ur ready to roll.

im not simply blabbering, this is based on my years of doing renderings for firms.


laptop should always be 2nd option(if ur going somewhere n u ran out of time) , even then , just focus on the processor power. laptop graphic cards are not superb unless ur thinking of getting a quadcore SLI powered laptop.

just my two cents
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post Jun 9 2009, 02:34 AM

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if ur sticking on MAC alone, the only choice of CAD software that ul have would be Vectorworks, i have yet to come across MAC compatible Autocad.

however if they do, lucky you.

another way to go through with mac, is to dual boot, most of my MAC user friends have this on their desktop to shift easily(ive forgotten what the software is called, but u can access windows directly from ur MAC desktop), and use autocad.


ericlim, a pc good enough to render , autocad and 3d modelling, would cost around rm3k , the price is considerably better eyh? u can put one at ur home. smile.gif




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post Jun 9 2009, 01:35 PM

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hey mate, its been a while. nah, its kinda fun actually. i dont feel stressed out at all. darn, ive got to go uitm tomorow.

how r u?heard ur applying for firms overseas?
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QUOTE(xtracooljustin @ Jun 9 2009, 01:42 PM)
not going well. might even be ur colleague! ha ha. UITM for da workshop?
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yeap, for the thesis thingy.going there with jo

QUOTE(YO® @ Jun 9 2009, 08:17 PM)
oooo, ty

can u find out wat the software name? cause it help a lot.
with a macbuk, u can acces ur windows on a netbuk.
thats cool!

don nid to be on a dekstop
haha
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ill ask around. look for 'parallels Desktop' for MAC. or VMWARE FUsion

and theres a way around to install windows via mac using Boot Camp

cheers
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post Oct 2 2009, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(iieiie @ Sep 23 2009, 07:01 PM)
Hi i am new here . I have questions to ask about architecture path.
I am just completed my foundation year 1 in UCSI private uni.
I want to ask whether i hv the requirement to apply for the following government uni's B.(hons) of architectural programme?
As in use my pre-degree result(foundation year) to apply the UM/UTM B.(hons) programme?

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Hey hi yaw hong, i am a newbiie here.
I am wondering to ask u , is there any job vacancies in firm  for me as a foundation year student?
I have just completed my 1st year of pre-degree architecture course in UCSI.

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not sure if u can do that, but the best thing for you to do is make a call and check. azarimy is right, chances are slim.


job vacancies in firm during foundation years? it will be tough, and youl end up being cheap labor. but if ur want a peek into a real world, u can do so. therel never be good pay i can assure u that.
but the possibilities of one or two things to learn is there.

for the others : why waste time and money going into unaccredited institutions,itl be more hassle than its worth.
go through STPM or matrics if money seems to be a problem.


Added on October 2, 2009, 8:46 pm
QUOTE(tehtmc @ Sep 25 2009, 08:34 PM)
Even A-levels, an internationally recognized and supposedly very versatile pre-U qualification is not recognized by the IPTA's. What do you expect of foundation courses from the IPTS's?

Strange thing is,  A-levels is recognized for applications from foreign students to the IPTA's. No, it's nothing to do with the standard of the qualification but it's matter of gomen policy.

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most IPTA's are looking at increasing the number of international students intake for a better budget/ possible conversion to a research University (which is ridiculous) since all they want is money.. explains all.

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post Oct 3 2009, 10:23 PM

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you can work. most firms would still accept you though priority is given to those with part 2.. but you wouldnt be qualified to be entitled graduate architect by Lembaga Architect and unable to register as graduate arch member with Persatuan Arkitek. and ultimately unable to fill in log books that is a requirement to sit for part 3 exam

however, companies would still give your namecard the title ' architect' for business expansion purposes.so dont worry bout that too much

without part 3, you cant establish a firm .cant approve drawings. you can be a director of a company , an associate, a senior architect , resident architect but you cant open up a firm and the title 'Ar' wouldnt be granted (not that it matters that much though), thats it.

theres a way around it,after a few years experience , u just might start a company, with a partner that has Part 3.now thats a must.

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