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Polaris
post Dec 5 2010, 01:30 AM

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This is the intraday numbers in osk's platform, it's somewhat annoying that they label the red part SELL, and the blue part BUY, as I had to mentally inverse them when I look at it..

Is there a reasonable explanation for this?

Does 'SELL' mean the stocks changed hands at seller's price, which is bullish and 'BUY' mean it traded at buyer's price which is bearish?
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post Dec 5 2010, 04:39 AM

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question about consolidation:

Lets say i bought 5000 shares from company A at RM0.10 per share.
Company then consolidated, 5:1 ratio and share price is now RM0.50.

i want to sell all my shares in cds account, do i key in 5000 or 1000 units in my trading platform?

This post has been edited by tineagle: Dec 5 2010, 01:56 PM
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post Dec 5 2010, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(tineagle @ Dec 5 2010, 04:39 AM)
question about consolidation:

Lets say i bought 5000 shares from company A at RM0.10 per share.
Company then consolidated, 5:1 ratio and share price is now RM0.50.

i want to sell all my shares in cds account, do i key in 5000 or 1000 units in my trading platform?
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You only left 1000 unit in your CDS.


Added on December 5, 2010, 5:26 pm
QUOTE(Polaris @ Dec 5 2010, 01:30 AM)
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This is the intraday numbers in osk's platform, it's somewhat annoying that they label the red part SELL, and the blue part BUY, as I had to mentally inverse them when I look at it..

Is there a reasonable explanation for this?

Does 'SELL' mean the stocks changed hands at seller's price, which is bullish and 'BUY' mean it traded at buyer's price which is bearish?
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Yes.



This post has been edited by cherroy: Dec 5 2010, 05:26 PM
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post Dec 5 2010, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(smartly @ Dec 2 2010, 05:45 PM)

ii) No, not a contra trade. 2 separate contracts coz 2 diff counters. Same conter buy sell same day then can.
I tried that with Jupiter of buy sell same counter same day, but they charged me separately as 2 transactions (buy, and sell). cry.gif


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post Dec 5 2010, 08:07 PM

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Dec 5 2010, 06:41 PM)
I tried that with Jupiter of buy sell same counter same day, but they charged me separately as 2 transactions (buy, and sell).  cry.gif
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post Dec 5 2010, 09:28 PM

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Question on HANDAL (7253)

i have 5100 shares on it.

recently have propose as below
(i) proposed renounceable rights issue of 60,000,000 new ordinary shares of rm0.50 each in handal (“rights share(s)”) together with 60,000,000 new free detachable warrants (“warrant(s)”) on the basis of two (2) rights shares and two (2) free warrants for every three (3) existing ordinary shares of rm0.50 each in handal (“handal share(s)”) held on an entitlement date to be determined later (“proposed rights issue”);

(ii) proposed bonus issue of 20,000,000 handal shares (“bonus share(s)”) on the basis of one (1) bonus share for every three (3) rights shares subscribed (“proposed bonus issue”);

my question as below:
from (i) the result i will get 3400 rights share and 3400 warrant

from (ii) to avoid odd lot i need to sell 100 rights share then i subscribe 3300 right share to get 1100 bonus share.

final result: 9500share 3400 warrant

any sifu can tell me, my calculation correct?

This post has been edited by amendfate: Dec 5 2010, 09:31 PM
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post Dec 6 2010, 11:12 PM

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post Dec 7 2010, 12:25 AM

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Anyone can tell me how much is one lot 100 shares or 1000 shares, and when buy shares i hava to buy at least how much???


Thank You

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post Dec 7 2010, 08:43 AM

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QUOTE(amendfate @ Dec 5 2010, 09:28 PM)
Question on HANDAL (7253)

i have 5100 shares on it.

recently have propose as below
(i) proposed renounceable rights issue of 60,000,000 new ordinary shares of rm0.50 each in handal (“rights share(s)”) together with 60,000,000 new free detachable warrants (“warrant(s)”) on the basis of two (2) rights shares and two (2) free warrants for every three (3) existing ordinary shares of rm0.50 each in handal (“handal share(s)”) held on an entitlement date to be determined later (“proposed rights issue”);

(ii) proposed bonus issue of 20,000,000 handal shares (“bonus share(s)”) on the basis of one (1) bonus share for every three (3) rights shares subscribed (“proposed bonus issue”);

my question as below:
from (i) the result i will get  3400 rights share and 3400 warrant

from (ii) to avoid odd lot i need to sell 100 rights share then i  subscribe 3300 right share to get 1100 bonus share.

final result: 9500share 3400 warrant

any sifu can tell me, my calculation correct?
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I am no sifu but wrong.
Normally there won't be any window for you to dispose your 100 right share before the bonus entitlement.


Added on December 7, 2010, 8:43 am
QUOTE(escargo75 @ Dec 6 2010, 11:12 PM)
Anyone can tell me where can  buy malaysian revenue stamp? Not post office right?
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Post office.

This post has been edited by htt: Dec 7 2010, 08:43 AM
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post Dec 8 2010, 06:27 AM

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QUOTE(ismokenov @ Dec 7 2010, 12:25 AM)
Anyone can tell me how much is one lot 100 shares or 1000 shares, and when buy shares i hava to buy at least how much???
Thank You
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1 lot nowadays is 100 shares and thats the minimum you can buy. i think about 3 years ago it was 1 lot = 1000 shares.
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post Dec 8 2010, 09:56 PM

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Hi anyone can tell me, how they do their research, I mean from where do u obtain the information. I use TheStar,Btimes....anyone knows other places.

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post Dec 10 2010, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(ismokenov @ Dec 8 2010, 09:56 PM)
Hi anyone can tell me, how they do their research, I mean from where do u obtain the information. I use TheStar,Btimes....anyone knows other places.

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Hi! You can look into the company's financial report to gain more information. You can get the financial report through the company's websites.
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post Dec 12 2010, 02:52 AM

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hey, why some stock has par value, what the importance to have it, what i know is par value is used to calculate the dividend only, what happen if a share is traded below par value?
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post Dec 12 2010, 03:12 AM

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Does chartnexus provide real time data?

I'm using their eod free edition right now.
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post Dec 12 2010, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(Molotov Cocktail @ Dec 12 2010, 02:52 AM)
hey, why some stock has par value, what the importance to have it, what i know is par value is used to calculate the dividend only, what happen if a share is traded below par value?
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Par value is used in calculating the company's issued share capital in the balance sheet. By default it's rm 1.00 per share, but it changes when a company undergoes share consolidation, capital repayment, share split, capital reduction, etc.

Par value, IMO, means nothing to me, except that if a share is trading below par value it means that the company's performance (market perception) is worse than when it was first listed.

e.g. Company A: Par value 1.00 when listed in 2005, now trading at 0.10 in 2010

to me it means that the company is performing way worse in 2010 than 2005.

compare it to digi, where share par value is 10 sen, now trading > rm20, gave out capital repayments and strong dividend yield for years. to me this means its 100x better than Company A.

hope it helps, just what i think.
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post Dec 12 2010, 02:03 PM

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so if a company want to issue IPO with share price of rm1.50 per share with par value of rm1.00, so the company capital is based on rm1.00 per share or rm1.50? if they put in the balance sheet rm1.00 per share for their capital, where does the other rm0.50 goes to? im also curious why some company doesn't have par value

there is one counter i monitored recently which is Huayang the share price is traded below it's par value meaning it is not a good stock?
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post Dec 12 2010, 02:25 PM

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Hey guys i do not know if this is the right place to ask but what does bid offer spread means? Ive googled it up but still unable to understand..

A friend of mine asked me what is the big offer spread for cimb..
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QUOTE(Molotov Cocktail @ Dec 12 2010, 02:03 PM)
so if a company want to issue IPO with share price of rm1.50 per share with par value of rm1.00, so the company capital is based on rm1.00 per share or rm1.50? if they put in the balance sheet rm1.00 per share for their capital, where does the other rm0.50 goes to? im also curious why some company doesn't have par value

there is one counter i monitored recently which is Huayang the share price is traded below it's par value meaning it is not a good stock?
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Put in Share premium.
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Added on December 12, 2010, 6:15 pm
QUOTE(Calvin Seak @ Dec 12 2010, 02:25 PM)
Hey guys i do not know if this is the right place to ask but what does bid offer spread means? Ive googled it up but still unable to understand..

A friend of mine asked me what is the big offer spread for cimb..
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Means the difference between best buy and sell.
If Buy at
0.40 100
0.41 200
0.43 300
Sell at
0.44 100
0.45 200
0.46 300
Then spread = 0.44-0.43 = 0.01

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QUOTE(Molotov Cocktail @ Dec 12 2010, 02:03 PM)
so if a company want to issue IPO with share price of rm1.50 per share with par value of rm1.00, so the company capital is based on rm1.00 per share or rm1.50? if they put in the balance sheet rm1.00 per share for their capital, where does the other rm0.50 goes to? im also curious why some company doesn't have par value

there is one counter i monitored recently which is Huayang the share price is traded below it's par value meaning it is not a good stock?
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Under share premium account.

All share got its par value, even private entity company.

Par value is the value of paid up capital, aka when you start a company time, let say you have 100k capital injected into the company for start up, by then company has 100K paid up capital, which being reflected or as share issued of Rm1 par value of 100k shares.

After that company can make profit or loss in the process.

If company is making profit, now company got 200K cash and still making profit, market out there willing to pay/transact at Rm1.50 for the company share (still with RM1 par value of 100K share available).
As times go, with more and more profit being made, the share price can go to Rm50 with the same Rm1 par value of 100K shares, because company is now more valuable than before.

Generally speaking (not 100% must be), if a share price is traded below par value, which mean investors are pessimistic about the company future, aka the company could potential making loss by then the initial 100K can be gone due to losses.

Actually when we invest, we don't look at the par value at all.
You look at what is the level of worth to invest.
Par value is somehow meaningless, except it reflects how much capital being put in before only.

This post has been edited by cherroy: Dec 12 2010, 06:19 PM
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post Dec 12 2010, 06:28 PM

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so the par value reflects what is the company capital when they start the business before being listed right?

all this while i thought the share premium showed in balance sheet is the value of the preferred share issued by the company, now i know where the value is derived from, thanks for the explanation

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