my opinion -
is that you should disregard #2. it's almost impossible to spot this arrangement although it's quite easy to assume that with a big seller, someone else has to absorb the slack. if you reverse the logic (EPF collecting) does that mean that the shark is taking profit and EPF is bullish on the stock? doesn't really sound right to me.

it goes down to the stock, in the case of DRB, EPF has been collecting and disposing on certain days of the uptrend, but the important point was there were massive sharks in there wiping out a few sell queues (or at least >500k shares) in a few secs.

plus EPF is quite erratic sometimes, they themselves are sharks. i'd only take notice if EPF has been substantively selling down the stock by a few % of shareholding or buying up the stock. but sneaky EPF always have some kind of tricks up their sleeve or very quick info.

my 2 sen.

Hey guys have question

where can i get the information like what shares the funds are holding, who are the current owner of the shares

P.S I googled yahoo binged everywhere could not find

Hi guys,

If the major shareholders of a company makes an offer to take the company private, is it possible that they revise the offer price if the acceptance rate is less than anticipated? Did anything like this happen before?

Thanks.

Then need to void the previous offer, and table a totally new offer to all across.

As far as I remembered, not come across.
Mostly the offer price is changed prior before, aka in the proposal stage, not until see the acceptance rate is low, only change the price.

Thanks cherroy.

Another question is, if shareholders accept the offer do they need to pay the transaction costs like they normal do when buying and selling shares?

No.

htt,
The asnwer actually is yes,
CDS transfer share to offeror, they charge RM10 for CDS transfer fee. (disregard how many shares, per transfer basic)

Should propose to KLSE, the Rm10 charge on offeror next time.

This post has been edited by cherroy: Dec 25 2010, 10:59 AM

Cherroy taikor why so hardworking? No need go Christmas party ah

edit:
Sorry staying on topic!

Why eDividend has not been fully implemented yet? We're still receiving cheques.

This post has been edited by Currylaksa: Dec 25 2010, 11:02 AM

No la... I received e-payment already. I found it very convenient no need go bank in the cheque! I think some broker house not implement it yet like RHB but Jupiter already payment e-dividend.

any idea what is the "Mid" type matching in share trading?

Kind of annoying when you get a small lot matching which involve relative high brokerage fee in term of %.

imagine someone throw you 1 lot of share that worth RM 100 while the securities firm charge you minimum charge of RM 42 + Stamping fee etc...

Can anyone advise where can i find the major shareholding for the particular share?

Latest annual report + changes in shareholdings (bursa annoucements).

this is the "Mid" type matching:

12 09:12:52 Order matched. [5900] Shares, Price [7.09], Terminal ID [211], Order No [1001691] Seq No [599628].
11 09:12:52 Order matched. [3000] Shares, Price [7.09], Terminal ID [211], Order No [1001691] Seq No [599628].
10 09:12:51 Order matched. [2000] Shares, Price [7.08], Terminal ID [211], Order No [1001691] Seq No [599628].
9 09:12:51 Order matched. [1000] Shares, Price [7.08], Terminal ID [211], Order No [1001691] Seq No [599628].
8 09:12:51 Order matched. [100] Shares, Price [7.08], Terminal ID [211], Order No [1001691] Seq No [599628].
7 09:12:51 Order matched. [2000] Shares, Price [7.07], Terminal ID [211], Order No [1001691] Seq No [599628].

Q to buy 7.09, somehow at the same time got people selling 7.07 7.08, the system will match the lowest price first before proceeding to the original Q price.

On a side note, is there a thread for intra-day trade? It will be good to have one since it is quite a different ball game...

If the order was matched partially at 7.07 and 7.08, shouldn't the number of shares matched at those prices be counted in their respective price groups?

BTW, which online broker are you using? I don't remember seeing the "Mid" type in m2u.

any one know any platform can trade with black berry? thanks alot

Does the shares issued include the treasury shares?

I'm not able to arrive at the same total number of shares following Pantech's recent corporate exercise.

Prior to the exercise, Pantech has issued 375,026,000 shares. 820,800 shares have been bought back. Hence, 374,205,200 shares outstanding.

Pantech gave out 1 bonus share for 5 existing shares. If I divide 374,205,200, I get 74,841,040 which is the number of new shares (my calculation) from the bonus issue.

Adding 374,205,200 and 74,841,040, I only get 449,046,240 which is a fall short from 449,867,027.

Even when I take the treasury shares into account, the total shares of 449,867,040 (449,046,240 + 820,800) still doesn't tally with what is shown in the screenie.

Does anyone know how to get the shares issued figure?

Thanks in advance.

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I found this announcement saying 74,841,027 bonus shares would be listed. This number is different from what I calculated above by 13 new shares (or 65 existing shares, 1:5).

If I add the original outstanding shares, reported new bonus shares and treasury shares, I'll get the total number of shares in the screenie.

But, why is that the 65 existing outstanding shares weren't entitled for the 13 bonus shares?

This post has been edited by iamsobloodysick: Jan 3 2011, 10:09 AM

If you look at the Buying/Selling Q, the Buying price is lower than Selling price most of the time unless during certain circumstances. (such as system lag)

What happen is that when i Q to buy at 7.09, the selling Q is at 7.10 & above. So happen when the transaction is matching, there are other seller that are selling for 7.07 7.08 and as a result some of the transaction is matched at lower cost.

my guess is that this phenomenon only take place during very active trading activities whereby there are dozens of entry into the system within a minute and some trading platform is experiencing a lag of few seconds. (for instance, i found that the Jupiter platform is slightly faster than OSK in fraction of second)

or else, it is just a common lag between the client and remisier who key in the order 30-40 seconds later after receiving the instruction through telephone.

Currently using OSK & Jupiter.

OSK - Good info + interface
Jupiter - Good rate

I am not familiar with this stock.
But to answer your first question.

Treasury shares is including in the total number of share issued, until company decided to cancel the treasury shares.
As treasury is just a share held by the company, as same as being held by anyone, and it can be sold off anytime to the market, or distributed to shareholders at anytime, at the company wish.

Yeah you're right. I missed the simple point.

Normally bonus share take how long time to credit into our cds account after ex date?