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post Nov 7 2008, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(DarkForXe @ Nov 7 2008, 04:12 PM)
what's
3rd buy 2nd buy 1st buy
1st sell 2nd sell 3rd sell?

if i am going to buy in some unit. which price should i be looking at?
what is exactly buy price and sell price?
sorry. i am really new in this. need to learn first before i invest anything. thank you.
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1st buy is the highest buying price, follow by 2nd & 3rd.
1st sell is the lowest selling price, follow by 2nd & 3rd.

If you want the share so badly, go for the 1st selling price, almost sure get. You can place higher price if you want too, too, system will allocate the lowest available for you.
Buy price = Buyer's price
Sell price = Seller's price.
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post Nov 8 2008, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(! Love Money @ Nov 8 2008, 04:39 PM)
sorry to disturb... y they go bankcrupt? due to invest in SE or other factor?
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Because they like to? blink.gif Cannot be lah.
People go bankrupt mainly because of speculation (or rather called trading) in future market where leverage is high or speculate (or rather called invest) in stock market with other people's money e.g. margin/ OD/ what ever loan, and they just so happen to be unlucky to caught in the market trend.
Morale of the stories, never invest with high leverage, quick money is good but one day you might need to pay back, with all the interest that you least expected. cry.gif
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post Nov 9 2008, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(aurora97 @ Nov 9 2008, 02:20 PM)
haha... to begin with there's no need to fear fellow forumner, we r merely peers swimming in a pool of confused and deranged ppl. Some may have answers to some questions, some may not feels free to ask any question you like so long it is within the questions asked.
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What's QFT? rclxub.gif
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post Nov 9 2008, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(aurora97 @ Nov 9 2008, 02:57 PM)
quoted for the truth biggrin.gif
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Thanks, new to me blush.gif
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QUOTE(munchinks @ Nov 12 2008, 10:49 AM)
hi guys, i have some questions here:
1) 1 LOT is how many shares? Because some ppl say 1 LOT = 100 shares, other say 1 LOT = 1000 shares.
2) What's the minimum LOT to buy ?

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Malaysia, 1 lot = 100 share. It used to be 1,000 share previously, but that's years ago, old people (Gen W) like me might still have memory of that. tongue.gif
Else where, mostly 1 lot = 1,000 share unless mention specific.
You can buy 1 lot (100 share) if you want to. tongue.gif
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post Nov 14 2008, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(Irzani @ Nov 14 2008, 02:57 PM)
Nowadays I just realised some investors are only rely on the dividend counter as their income, my question is, does it mean for every quarter there will be a dividend? or it only paid once per year? Assume that this is a good counter like TM, or Digi or Maybank or whatever it is ..  hmm.gif . How the dividend distributed? 3 month? 6 month? or more than a year?
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The answer will be as good as the question. tongue.gif
It all down to management of the company. Some give quarterly, some half yearly and some yearly. Unless stated in their dividend policy, else board of director is free to declare or change dividend distribution in the company's benefit (except final dividend which required to be voted pass during AGM).
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post Nov 14 2008, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(fergie1100 @ Nov 14 2008, 03:53 PM)
BJTOTO would be the best counter wic never late in giving div quarterly  thumbup.gif
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Magnum also, until someone announce takeover then never give for almost a year vmad.gif But now all become history...
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post Nov 14 2008, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(Irzani @ Nov 14 2008, 08:19 PM)
3 months?  hmm.gif

Okies, how about this example :
Can you give a little summary about this and how to read it?

P/s: Noob here ..
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Means if you hold through 28/11/08 (sell after the date), you will entitle for the split share (1 share become 2 share, your ordinary share remains and they will issue you with another share, but the PAR value halved). You can sell your share immediately after the ex-date (only the ordinary one, split one need to wait a bit to be safe.

Example:
ordinary holding: 1,000 share of RM1.00 PAR value.
on 29/11/08
ordinary holding become 1,000 share of RM0.50 PAR value
+ split share of 1,000 share of RM0.50 PAR value

Hope I make it clear. tongue.gif
Please correct me if I am wrong. biggrin.gif
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post Nov 14 2008, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(Irzani @ Nov 14 2008, 11:13 PM)
So, if 1 shares split into two. Isn't that it's still the same value in price?

Example:

1 lot= 1000 shares = Rm 1

After entitlement :

Split 1 share to become two share but par value half : 2 shares : (1000+1000) = 2000 share = Rm 1

Like that? Or I'm too noob here .. tongue.gif
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If the immediate closing price is RM1.00
ideally should become 2,000 x RM0.50 = RM1,000.
but normally got a bit premium after split, maybe like:
2,000 x RM0.55 = RM1,100.

Example only. Sometime no premium also, depends on market and the company's fundamental.
Don't hold me for responsibility if the market go the other way round tongue.gif

Par value wise:
1,000 share RM1.00 par value => 2,000 share RM0.50 par value (this one definitely like that, how much is the par value depends on how they split the share).
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post Nov 14 2008, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(Irzani @ Nov 14 2008, 11:25 PM)
Owh, the important one is the premium, if no premium, there's no profit right? nod.gif
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QUOTE(arthas @ Nov 15 2008, 12:39 PM)
this is a nice piece of info... thanks for sharing  rclxms.gif


Added on November 15, 2008, 12:41 pm

so the example that Irzani gave is called "rights issued" right?
for "bonus issued", u'll get the bonus shares free?
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No, the example is bonus issue (also known as share split).
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QUOTE(simplesmile @ Nov 19 2008, 10:39 PM)
Hi, I'm viewing online live stock data provided by my broker. Is the dividend per share net of the 25% tax or gross dividend?
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No.
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QUOTE(simplesmile @ Nov 20 2008, 12:01 AM)
No means, net or gross?
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Gross.
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QUOTE(simplesmile @ Nov 20 2008, 12:10 AM)
Thanks.
Wow, means if the dividend yield is 10%, then the after tax dividend is only 7.5%. This sucks.
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Cannot calculate like this, because 1-tier one will reflect the net dividend, imputation one you can claim back until you highest tax bracket (unless your income is so high until 25%, if that's the case, mind be friend with me tongue.gif ), tax free one will also reflect before tax (before tax & after tax the same).
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QUOTE(simplesmile @ Nov 20 2008, 01:27 PM)
I'm in a low tax bracket. That's why I feel dividend income...straightaway deduct 25% for tax (if no imputation) is expensive.
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Then go join election and nominate yourself as MP lah, as first step to get that abolished.
Anyway, I think Malaysia already the last few countries to implement this system liao, don't complaint much. Sometime we should thank our government for implementing this late tongue.gif
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QUOTE(xuzen @ Nov 21 2008, 02:17 PM)
Hi all,

Please bear with me as I am new to the world of stock exchange.

My basic question is what should one do with your stocks?

My remisier's answer is sell at higher price than I buy and make profit. To me that sounds like a gold prospector/speculator rather than as a true investor.

Now to explain my train of thoughts:

I am having a regular source of income (as in having a regular 9-5 job).

I have extra saving by not spending more than I earn.

I used to put my money in FD.

I realized that money in FD was very lazy... it is giving me lousy returns that will not beat inflation.

I have been buying dividend yielding counters hoping that they will give me better Rate of return than FD, I am targeting a conservative yield of 8 - 10%. I am not speculative, but I rather buy them small pieces at a time with the amount I am comfortable with (based on my budget)

I want to keep these dividend yielding counters as part of my retirement plan, hoping that they will give a source of income after I am unable to work anymore.

However, my remisier thinks that my plan is a joke. He cannot understand why I want to keep the stocks when I can make a profit during a bull run.

I cannot understand why I must do like he said.

I hope to hear from second, third or fourth opinions.

Thanks.

Xuzen
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You buy, you sell, he earn commission mah; you buy once in a blue moon how can he make his living. Your rationale might be perfectly all right, but make sure you got those good one. Good luck. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(xuzen @ Nov 21 2008, 03:33 PM)
I intend to buy regularly, but of course not as regular as those speculators.
Yeah, will KIV during the bull run period. But I don't see it happening in the near future... maybe late 2009 or 2010. I think now is a good time for bargain hunting. 12 months of bargain hunting/sale period... better than our Malaysian Mega Sales eh, which only last one month?

I guess I see myself as the tortoise rather than the hare. Strutting along leisurely along the road called life. Picking up my "rezeki" along the way, using it prudently and whatever is left once I reached the finish line (aka death) I'll give to my next of kin or charity which ever need it more, since I cannot bring it along to my grave.

Sorry for my rambling... biz is slow these days.

P/S So far I have in my portfolio: Tanjong, Carlsbg, Guiness, Amway, Toto, a little bit of here and there.

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Your portfolio is kind of stable companies, so risk is generally low. If you can continue your investment for a long time, you are going to get richer. But again, get some cash for standby is always good, I don't think you want to part with some of your portfolio if you need some cash suddenly. blush.gif
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QUOTE(xuzen @ Nov 21 2008, 04:09 PM)
Understood... cash in FD/Savings targeted at 3 to 6 mths of take home pay equivalent.

If you experienced people have anymore stable high dividend yielding counter to suggest please feel free to put it here or PM me. Thanks.

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I might not experienced also.
You already have all the sin stocks liao. Then mah as well get more sins when they are low, licensed ah long like PBB or MBB (less preferred) or cancer spreader like BAT or JT. tongue.gif
Infrastructure play also not bad, PLUS, YTL Power etc.

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Nov 21 2008, 06:24 PM)
So far I have a simple screening plan... I select stocks that have PE btw 10 - 15 and DY above 8%. From this short list, only then will I zoom in to study the individual stocks. Its past history, accounting ratios etc...

P/S Chemical Company Malaysia (CCM) looks good to me, and if CI hits 700 or below, I am going in to grab Bursa share especially if it falls to RM 4.50 below.

Xuzen

P/S: Slide baby slide... slide all the way wayyyyyyyy down baby!
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I think you actually done quite some homework as I see there are not short of other stocks which fulfill your criteria but your list are made of blue chips.
Bursa is cash cow company as well, but don't expect them to be very successful as compare to other bourse. Good luck to you. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(xuzen @ Nov 25 2008, 04:45 PM)
Hey people,

I got a new question. This is regarding AGM. If I have like 100 shares in Nestle and another person has 10,000 units in Nestle.

When it comes to voting, is it like I have 100 votes and the other person has 10,000 votes?

How does the shareholder vote work?

Xuzen
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There are 2 types,
1. Show hand one to simply pass the resolution. If major shareholder loss out, then
2. Count by share using the form.

Big one always win.

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