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popcorn513
post Nov 16 2010, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Nov 16 2010, 11:39 AM)
i don't know where you found out that equity is high-risk. it can be very low risk if you want it that way.

#1: 5% over 3 months is good, but usually ppl talk about annual returns. FD is 2.8-3% a year, high-yield dividend stocks around 5-6%, REITs around 7-8.5%, if you can do 10-15% a year (and outperform the KLCI index), imo that's considered quite an achievement already.

#2: time range? from my understanding and experience so far, there's daytrading, contra trading, short term speculative/fundamental, mid/long term fundamental, growth / dividend play, cum-dividend play, bonus issue/share split play and maybe others. everything can be fully customised to your risk appetite. Profit also up to you.

in a nutshell.. there's no standard definition of good performance in a nice timeframe. it's very subjective. icon_rolleyes.gif
consolidation of 4 to 1. you're talking about KNM? laugh.gif
the perception is that reducing liquidity (by consolidating shares, and increasing the par value) is a result of reduced interest from shareholders. hence it usually isn't a popular move. there's no effect of share consolidation on the company accounts. just shareholder perception.

BJCorp on 28th June was trading between 1.21 to 1.28. I don't know where you got 1.03 to 1.09 from. smile.gif
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Thanks ya i'm holding some KNM, and consolidation is approaching so wondering how much the impact.

For BJCORP hmm i check the price from the chart history... strange i go check again, thanks
But does Buy back is a bad sign? Since current price is lower than the buy back now sweat.gif
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post Nov 16 2010, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(popcorn513 @ Nov 16 2010, 11:55 AM)
Thanks ya i'm holding some KNM, and consolidation is approaching so wondering how much the impact.

For BJCORP hmm i check the price from the chart history... strange i go check again, thanks
But does Buy back is a bad sign? Since current price is lower than the buy back now sweat.gif
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share buybacks usually means management wants to
#1 support the share, or;
#2 act in the interest of long term shareholders for the benefit of the company (sorta like tying them down), by giving share dividends (like YTL), and not so much cash dividends.

all depends on the pricing, if the price is quite high, it's not actually beneficial for the shareholders,
then again, if the company is really interested in rewarding shareholders then it can give cash dividends, since that way the shareholders can decide for themselves whats best..

btw, share buybacks generally don't impact much of the structure of the company, just the way they use their retained profits.

just my opinion. also, cherroy has a good viewpoint on share buybacks smile.gif

This post has been edited by teehk_tee: Nov 16 2010, 12:40 PM
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post Nov 17 2010, 12:05 AM

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what mean by buy/bcum ?

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post Nov 17 2010, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(MNet @ Nov 17 2010, 12:05 AM)
what mean by buy/bcum ?

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The quantity of shares on particular price.
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post Nov 17 2010, 12:56 PM

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i want to ask if i put buy 1000 unit stock A at RM0.10

But another people sell 100 unit stock A at RM0.10

My buy order will become 900 unit already?
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post Nov 17 2010, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(MNet @ Nov 17 2010, 12:56 PM)
i want to ask if i put buy 1000 unit stock A at RM0.10

But another people sell 100 unit stock A at RM0.10

My buy order will become 900 unit already?
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Yes, 100 matched, 900 pending in buy/buycum
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post Nov 17 2010, 09:01 PM

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How to sell odd lots like 50 shares? Is it possible to sell odd lots?
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post Nov 17 2010, 11:02 PM

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post Nov 17 2010, 11:21 PM

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I've got a question regarding warrants.
How do these WA counters work? From what I can tell, they are traded just like normal stocks rite?

Could someone please explain to me the difference between WA/WC and normal stocks?

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post Nov 17 2010, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Nov 17 2010, 09:01 PM)
How to sell odd lots like 50 shares? Is it possible to sell odd lots?
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There is odd market as well.
Some online portal got inside, people can bid/ask for the odd lot, 1 share, 10 shares etc.
Price wise is totally on buyer/seller willingness

QUOTE(MNet @ Nov 17 2010, 11:02 PM)
1999 KLSE allow short sell?
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Only regulated short-selling on certain stocks but due to troublesome procedure, this is almost non-existent.

For ordinary trade, no. Short selling or so called naked short selling is not allowed.

QUOTE(tineagle @ Nov 17 2010, 11:21 PM)
I've got a question regarding warrants.
How do these WA counters work? From what I can tell, they are traded just like normal stocks rite?

Could someone please explain to me the difference between WA/WC and normal stocks?
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Yes, they are traded as same.

WA/WC is the same warrant issued by the company, just WC will be indicating the third warrant being issued. WA, WB, WC.
For sure, WA and WC conversion condition is different as well as its expiration date.

WA/WC is different with CW.

CW is call warrant.

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post Nov 17 2010, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 17 2010, 11:27 PM)
Yes, they are traded as same.

WA/WC is the same warrant issued by the company, just WC will be indicating the third warrant being issued. WA, WB, WC.
For sure, WA and WC conversion condition is different as well as its expiration date.

WA/WC is different with CW.

CW is call warrant.
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from my understanding companies issue warrants to raise money(correct me if i'm wrong).

are there time frames for the warrants and will they expire or always remain traded in the market? what will happen if it expires?
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post Nov 17 2010, 11:57 PM

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QUOTE(tineagle @ Nov 17 2010, 11:52 PM)
from my understanding companies issue warrants to raise money(correct me if i'm wrong).

are there time frames for the warrants and will they expire or always remain traded in the market? what will happen if it expires?
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Yes, warrant is a way to raise money.

Yes, warrant does have time frame, generally for ordinary warrant like WA, most are 5 years, can be varied as well.

Once expired, the warrant cease its function and being delisted. An expired warrant is worst than toilet paper, worth nothing. (at least toilet paper got some usage tongue.gif )
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 17 2010, 11:57 PM)
Yes, warrant is a way to raise money.

Yes, warrant does have time frame, generally for ordinary warrant like WA, most are 5 years, can be varied as well.

Once expired, the warrant cease its function and being delisted. An expired warrant is worst than toilet paper, worth nothing. (at least toilet paper got some usage tongue.gif )
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haha ok so when it is diluted, the company will pay the holder its worth at that time?
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post Nov 18 2010, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(tineagle @ Nov 17 2010, 11:59 PM)
haha ok so when it is diluted, the company will pay the holder its worth at that time?
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You mean delisted?

No, for ordinary warrant, you need to convert to mothershare before it expired at the exercise price set before.
If not, the warrant just rotten even it worth a lot.

Only CW got cash settlement aka repay you what the warrant worth.
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post Nov 18 2010, 12:12 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 18 2010, 12:01 AM)
You mean delisted?

No, for ordinary warrant, you need to convert to mothershare before it expired at the exercise price set before.
If not, the warrant just rotten even it worth a lot.

Only CW got cash settlement aka repay you what the warrant worth.
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thank you very much for the clarification
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post Nov 18 2010, 09:41 AM

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Hi! Can anyone explain this announcement to me, please? Is this bad news? Thank you.

"The Company wishes to announce that it has today received notification from
HSBC (Malaysia) Trustees Berhad, the trustees for the Convertible Bonds, that
all the holders of the outstanding RM113 million of the nominal value of the
Convertible Bonds have exercised their option pursuant to the Trust Deed dated
29 November 2007 requiring the Company to redeem all of the holders Convertible
Bonds on 6 December 2010 (being the 3rd anniversary of the Issue Date) at the
Early Redemption Amount of the Bonds at RM1,112,800 for every RM1,000,000
nominal value of the Convertible Bonds ."
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post Nov 18 2010, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(t5t @ Nov 18 2010, 09:41 AM)
Hi! Can anyone explain this announcement to me, please? Is this bad news? Thank you.

"The Company wishes to announce that it has today received notification from
HSBC (Malaysia) Trustees Berhad, the trustees for the Convertible Bonds, that
all the holders of the outstanding RM113 million of the nominal value of the
Convertible Bonds have exercised their option pursuant to the Trust Deed dated
29 November 2007 requiring the Company to redeem all of the holders Convertible
Bonds on 6 December 2010 (being the 3rd anniversary of the Issue Date) at the
Early Redemption Amount of the Bonds at RM1,112,800 for every RM1,000,000
nominal value of the Convertible Bonds ."
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I suppose it is a Redeemable Convertible loan stock

It just means those loan stock are redeemed and company will/need to repay the bond.

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post Nov 19 2010, 09:04 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 17 2010, 11:57 PM)
Yes, warrant is a way to raise money.

Yes, warrant does have time frame, generally for ordinary warrant like WA, most are 5 years, can be varied as well.

Once expired, the warrant cease its function and being delisted. An expired warrant is worst than toilet paper, worth nothing. (at least toilet paper got some usage tongue.gif )
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Warrants are issued more as a sweeterner then raising money, in my opinion. I mean at the point of issue. Most warrants are given free during right issues. Of cos, if ever converted into mother shares upon expiry, the company raised some funds.

Just my 2 cents


Added on November 19, 2010, 9:07 am
QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 18 2010, 10:20 AM)
I suppose it is a Redeemable Convertible loan stock

It just means those loan stock are redeemed and company will/need to repay the bond.
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Nowadays, company seldom issues RCLS mostly ICLS, Irredeemable CLS. Upon expiry, just converted to mother shares.

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post Nov 22 2010, 10:54 PM

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Does anyone know, which software shows price movement (seller/buyer's price)?

I found this screenshot online
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 18 2010, 12:01 AM)
You mean delisted?

No, for ordinary warrant, you need to convert to mothershare before it expired at the exercise price set before.
If not, the warrant just rotten even it worth a lot.

Only CW got cash settlement aka repay you what the warrant worth.
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Are you mean that we can get back cash after the CW expired, assume if we didn't excise/ change to mother share?


Added on November 23, 2010, 1:55 am
QUOTE(Icehart @ Nov 9 2010, 10:25 AM)
You have to check the conversion ratio and the exercise price.
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The conversion ration for MUIIND-LA, LB & LC is 1:1.
so i can immediate make profit if i buy in loan stock (currently at 0.16sen) then convert to mother share (0.195 sen) after maturity date? icon_question.gif

This post has been edited by kllau3: Nov 23 2010, 01:55 AM

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