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popcorn513
post Nov 10 2010, 07:40 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 10 2010, 05:51 PM)
1) yes, especially during the end of month, whereby the price will affect the index, may influence the index futures settlement price.

2) Yes, any matched transaction won't be cancelled. Just sometimes, fund managers/investors want to clear the position, or rounded up the particular transaction, as sometimes, they have mandate/target to buy/sell x amount of stocks during that days due to various reason.

3) Next open price will follow yesterday closing price.
Open price will be adjusted :
a) ex-dividend
b) ex-bonus/split
c) etc corporate exercise, like share reduction,
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Thanks, i will post my Q here, sorry for my post mistake moderator. tongue.gif


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Hi, i have a question here...i would like to ask regarding the bid/offer thingy on the above chart...can anyone explain to me in detail how it works?

and secondly...whats the TO/CP thingy on top...


Thanks, hope this is not a noob question as i just started biggrin.gif
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post Nov 11 2010, 03:42 PM

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Hi fellow trader, I'm new to stock trading so need some advice

I'm frequently going into the trade detail page to check the trade transaction, but i'm not 100% understand them
This is the trade list i'm using, i'm not sure whether you guy using them same
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So my question is, are there any user manual/guide to explain meaning of each field/value on this trading system?
I'm asking my trading firm as well on this whether they have detail explaination course on this, so just checking how you guy learn those interface. icon_question.gif

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QUOTE(popcorn513 @ Nov 11 2010, 03:42 PM)
Hi fellow trader, I'm new to stock trading so need some advice

I'm frequently going into the trade detail page to check the trade transaction, but i'm not 100% understand them
This is the trade list i'm using, i'm not sure whether you guy using them same
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So my question is, are there any user manual/guide to explain meaning of each field/value on this trading system?
I'm asking my trading firm as well on this whether they have detail explaination course on this, so just checking how you guy learn those interface. icon_question.gif
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err... what you don't understand then?
It is just basic stuff, except some column (the bar/dot part) which is more customised.

It just show every transaction being done.

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post Nov 11 2010, 04:07 PM

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haha there seems to be too much to ask, are they any online tutorial/user guide/documentation to explain them? I think maybe a bit tedious to ask in forum...


Added on November 11, 2010, 9:03 pmHi please help to explain these few term/data

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1) What is B-Q and S-Q?

2) What is T-B%?

3) We only charge (Brokerage Fee, Clearing Fee, Stamp Duty) when the buy/sell is matched? Or when we submit the buy/sell (include unmatched, Odd Lots)?

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post Nov 12 2010, 01:38 AM

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QUOTE(popcorn513 @ Nov 11 2010, 04:07 PM)
haha there seems to be too much to ask, are they any online tutorial/user guide/documentation to explain them? I think maybe a bit tedious to ask in forum...


Added on November 11, 2010, 9:03 pmHi please help to explain these few term/data

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1) What is B-Q and S-Q?

2) What is T-B%?

3) We only charge (Brokerage Fee, Clearing Fee, Stamp Duty) when the buy/sell is matched? Or when we submit the buy/sell (include unmatched, Odd Lots)?

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Hi!

1) B-Q is the Buy Queue. When you buy a share, your order will be queued in the Buy Queue. If someone sells you his shares, then B-Q amount will reduce and the S-Vol amount will increase in equal proportion. S-Q is the Sell Queue. When you sell a share, your order will be queued in the Sell Queue. If someone buys your shares, then the S-Q amount will reduce and the B-Vol amount will increase. (B-Vol and S-Vol mean successfully traded volume for Buy and Sell respectively)

2) I am not sure about T-B%

3) Yes. You will only be charged if your orders are matched. You will not be charged when your orders are still in queue. These charges are only for DONE trade.


Added on November 12, 2010, 1:44 am
QUOTE(popcorn513 @ Nov 11 2010, 03:42 PM)
Hi fellow trader, I'm new to stock trading so need some advice

I'm frequently going into the trade detail page to check the trade transaction, but i'm not 100% understand them
This is the trade list i'm using, i'm not sure whether you guy using them same
user posted image

So my question is, are there any user manual/guide to explain meaning of each field/value on this trading system?
I'm asking my trading firm as well on this whether they have detail explaination course on this, so just checking how you guy learn those interface. icon_question.gif
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Hi!
I don't think there is any user manual/guide four your queries. However, some or most of the fields are understandable. What you don't understand, you can post it here. I believe many people would be kind enough to explain to you. Anyway, I think you are using Public Bank share trading?

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QUOTE(t5t @ Nov 12 2010, 01:38 AM)
Hi!

1) B-Q is the Buy Queue. When you buy a share, your order will be queued in the Buy Queue. If someone sells you his shares, then B-Q amount will reduce and the S-Vol amount will increase in equal proportion. S-Q is the Sell Queue. When you sell a share, your order will be queued in the Sell Queue. If someone buys your shares, then the S-Q amount will reduce and the B-Vol amount will increase. (B-Vol and S-Vol mean successfully traded volume for Buy and Sell respectively)

2) I am not sure about T-B%

3) Yes. You will only be charged if your orders are matched. You will not be charged when your orders are still in queue. These charges are only for DONE trade.


Added on November 12, 2010, 1:44 am
Hi!
I don't think there is any user manual/guide four your queries. However, some or most of the fields are understandable. What you don't understand, you can post it here. I believe many people would be kind enough to explain to you. Anyway, I think you are using Public Bank share trading?
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Love U brother, you solved puzzle, market going to open soon tongue.gif
Now only i know how to play queue insteaad of follow people buy stock

So anyone can explain
1) T-B%?

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post Nov 12 2010, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(popcorn513 @ Nov 12 2010, 08:52 AM)
Love U brother, you solved puzzle, market going to open soon tongue.gif
Now only i know how to play queue insteaad of follow people buy stock

So anyone can explain
1) T-B%?
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Let me guess, transaction buy %.

Aka the amount particular transaction is initiated as buy at that price.
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post Nov 12 2010, 02:47 PM

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Ok i saw this annoucement,
Does this consider as bad news? Since i suppose those converted warrant will sell of their share to get quick profit? (provided the current share price is much higher that the issue price of 2.66)

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Additional Listing Announcement 

1. Details of Corporate Proposal
  Whether the corporate proposal involves the issuance of new type and
  new class of securities? No
  Types of corporate proposal : Others
  Details of Corporate Proposal : Conversion of Warrants
  No. of shares issued under this corporate proposal: 16,900
  Issue price per share ($$) : MYR 2.660
  Par Value ($$) : MYR 1.000
  Latest issued and paid up share capital after the above corporate proposal
  in the following
  Units : 2,044,015,481
  Currency : MYR 2,044,015,481.000
  Listing Date : 15/11/2010
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QUOTE(popcorn513 @ Nov 12 2010, 02:47 PM)
Ok i saw this annoucement,
Does this consider as bad news? Since i suppose those converted warrant will sell of their share to get quick profit? (provided the current share price  is much higher that the issue price of 2.66)
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Theorectically, yes.

But the number of share converted is so trivia as compared to overall paid up and market daily transaction, so little effect.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 12 2010, 03:44 PM)
Theorectically, yes.

But the number of share converted is so trivia as compared to overall paid up and market daily transaction, so little effect.
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Hmm good point there, thanks to explain, i should measure the % of converted warrant to the total volumn of stock to know how much the impact (but as you said the impact will be little effect else not fair to normal shareholder).

ya i always saw big volumn of sell before market closure at aroung 4:50PM, whats does that means/plan? (i believe they won't matched)



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QUOTE(popcorn513 @ Nov 12 2010, 04:31 PM)
Hmm good point there, thanks to explain, i should measure the % of converted warrant to the total volumn of stock to know how much the impact (but as you said the impact will be little effect else not fair to normal shareholder).

ya i always saw big volumn of sell before market closure at aroung 4:50PM, whats does that means/plan? (i believe they won't matched)
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1. Clear off residual unmatched intended transacted stocks, this especially during a down market day.
2. Influence the closing price so that it will be higher/lower.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 12 2010, 05:25 PM)
1. Clear off residual unmatched intended transacted stocks, this especially during a down market day. 
2. Influence the closing price so that it will be higher/lower.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 12 2010, 05:25 PM)
1. Clear off residual unmatched intended transacted stocks, this especially during a down market day. 
2. Influence the closing price so that it will be higher/lower.
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I think what cherroy means is that:

1. A person wants to sell his stocks at a price (a high price and maybe you can't see the price in the queue list), but the trade is not matched or maybe partially matched only. Then, when the bourse is closing soon, he will quickly change the selling price to a price that you can see in your queue list or maybe the LAST price so that they would be matched immediately. This would happen especially during a down market day where a lot of people are trying to get rid of their shares or when bad announcement/financial report is released by the company.

2. Since the bourse is closing soon, thus the LAST or CLOSING price of today would be the REF or OPENING price of tomorrow. So, some people just want to influence tomorrow's OPENING price. If today's CLOSING price is high, then people might think that the shares for that particular counter would raise tomorrow. If the CLOSING price is low, then people might think that the shares for the counter would drop tomorrow. So, the person who tries to influence the CLOSING price may get some benefit from it.
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I hold some shares in GCORP

this is their announcement:

Pursuant to the Master Sale and Purchase Agreement dated 19 May 2010 between the Company and Consistent Record Sdn Bhd ("CRSB") in relation to the disposal of the entire business and undertaking of our Company (including all of our assets and liabilities) to CRSB for a total consideration of RM505,043,864.20, CRSB has proposed the voluntary winding-up of the Company ("Proposed Winding-Up"). The Board will accordingly seek the approval of the shareholders of the Company at an extraordinary general meeting to be convened for the Proposed Winding-Up.

The Proposed Winding-Up will facilitate the distribution to the Company's shareholders [other than CRSB, the Relevant Family Members and PAC (both as defined in the Circular to shareholders dated 5 August 2010)] the sum of RM1.70 cash per GCB Share.

My question is : do they distribute the cash directly to my bank account like e-dividend or cheque? can anyone explain.

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Hi, I'm new in share trading...
recently i just bought some share at total of RM3k++ and within 3 months I just sold them, and get profit of RM90++... From my e-portfolio, i gain the overall profit of 4.87% in time of 3 months. (less)

My question is:

1. The performance is better than saving money in FD, but does my performance considered good enough in equity stock exchange?

2. Since I heard that equity trading is the 2nd high risk investment, what is the normal time range and overall profit made is considered good for equity trading?

since I've put this RM3k as a start for me to learn to invest, I do wish to put them in some higher risk to explore the high risk market.

oh... trading games unable to give me a drive to learn... >_<
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post Nov 15 2010, 06:36 PM

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hi got 1 question
1) Does share consolidation always means bad new for shareholder? consolidation of 4 to 1 consider bad?

Hi Need help on another thing, i found this buy back stuff
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3395    BJCORP    BERJAYA CORPORATION BHD 
Notice of Shares Buy Back - Immediate Announcement

Date of Buy Back : 28/06/2010
Description of Shares Purchased : Ordinary Shares of RM1.00 each
No. of Shares Purchased : 5,000,000 shares
Minimum Price Paid For Each Share Purchased : RM 1.210
Maximum Price Paid For Each Share Purchased : RM 1.260
Total Consideration Paid : RM 6,213,551.31
No. of Shares Purchased Retained in Treasury : 5,000,000 shares
No. of Shares Which Are Proposed To Be Cancelled : 0 shares
Cumulative Net Outstanding Treasury Shares As At To-Date

The share is buy back at price from 1.21 to 1.26 on Jun 28th , but that day market price high low is 1.03 and 1.09? Why not buying at 1.03 to 1.09 instead?

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Can anyone tell me what platform is RHB invest using (Java or excel force) and what is the brokerage fees. Thanks
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Can anyone tell me what platform is RHB invest using (Java or excel force)  and what is the brokerage fees.  Thanks
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RHB no good too expensive.

try look this https://www.jupiteronline.com.my/jssbecos/Offer.asp
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QUOTE(kampunggal @ Nov 15 2010, 03:13 PM)
Hi, I'm new in share trading...
recently i just bought some share at total of RM3k++ and within 3 months I just sold them, and get profit of RM90++... From my e-portfolio, i gain the overall profit of 4.87% in time of 3 months. (less)

My question is:

1. The performance is better than saving money in FD, but does my performance considered good enough in equity stock exchange?

2. Since I heard that equity trading is the 2nd high risk investment, what is the normal time range and overall profit made is considered good for equity trading?

since I've put this RM3k as a start for me to learn to invest, I do wish to put them in some higher risk to explore the high risk market.

oh... trading games unable to give me a drive to learn... >_<
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i don't know where you found out that equity is high-risk. it can be very low risk if you want it that way.

#1: 5% over 3 months is good, but usually ppl talk about annual returns. FD is 2.8-3% a year, high-yield dividend stocks around 5-6%, REITs around 7-8.5%, if you can do 10-15% a year (and outperform the KLCI index), imo that's considered quite an achievement already.

#2: time range? from my understanding and experience so far, there's daytrading, contra trading, short term speculative/fundamental, mid/long term fundamental, growth / dividend play, cum-dividend play, bonus issue/share split play and maybe others. everything can be fully customised to your risk appetite. Profit also up to you.

in a nutshell.. there's no standard definition of good performance in a nice timeframe. it's very subjective. icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(popcorn513 @ Nov 15 2010, 06:36 PM)
hi got 1 question
1) Does share consolidation always means bad new for shareholder?  consolidation of 4 to 1 consider bad?

Hi Need help on another thing, i found this buy back stuff

The share is buy back at price from 1.21 to 1.26 on Jun 28th , but that day market price high low is 1.03 and 1.09? Why not buying at 1.03 to 1.09 instead?
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consolidation of 4 to 1. you're talking about KNM? laugh.gif
the perception is that reducing liquidity (by consolidating shares, and increasing the par value) is a result of reduced interest from shareholders. hence it usually isn't a popular move. there's no effect of share consolidation on the company accounts. just shareholder perception.

BJCorp on 28th June was trading between 1.21 to 1.28. I don't know where you got 1.03 to 1.09 from. smile.gif

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