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post Dec 2 2007, 06:48 AM, updated 18y ago

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As requested by some forumers to have an official OC thread for the new ATi radeon, the HD 3850 and HD 3870 so here is the official thread for these new cards so that we can share our oc results, benchies, modding, or any dicussion regarding these cards that is related to OC..
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What's news.. (quoted from ATi AMD Website|:

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ATI Radeon HD 3800 Series – Key Features
PCI Express(R) 2.0 – Get ready for the most demanding graphics applications with PCI Express 2.0 support, which allows up to twice the throughput of current AMD PCI Express cards.

Incredible Microsoft(R) DirectX(R) 10.1 performance – You’ll be blown away by life-like graphics from the latest DirectX(R) 10.1 games, with stunning 3D graphics and shading effects.

320 Stream Processors – More than enough horsepower to support the most demanding graphics applications.

ATI CrossFireX™ multi-GPU – Upgrade to even greater 3D performance quickly and easily thanks to plug-and-play ATI CrossFireX technology with up to quad-GPU support.

Unified Video Decoder – View and manipulate the latest Blu-ray and HD DVD content with a dedicated hardware video decoder that leaves your CPU free to perform other tasks.

Ultimate Image Quality – Performance that rivals high-end HD-DVD and Blu-ray players on displays with resolutions that exceed 1080p – up to 2560x1600.

Integrated Digital Outputs – Enjoy your digital content the way you want to, with built-in HDMI that includes 5.1 surround audio for big screen entertainment.

More Processing Performance per Watt – Get up to twice the Gigaflops per watt of previous generations of high-end AMD GPUs.

ATI PowerPlay™ Technology – power saving features that reduce power consumption at idle or during low-usage

Runs Cool and Quiet – With a smaller chip designed to use less power, your system can take advantage of high-end Windows Vista(R) features while running more efficiently and quieter than ever.



ATi vs Nvidia... on paper

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Driver and bios

Catalyst for Windows XP

Catalyst for Windows Vista 32bit

Bios / OC hotfix (strictly for 3870 only)
Attached File  HD3870_PLLVCO_v010.071.zip ( 64.12k ) Number of downloads: 721


Modded OC bios:
http://www.iax-tech.com/video/3800biosmod/03.htm

Flashing tools:
http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/Utili...S_Flashing/ATI/

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now let me post my single and CF results..


Rig spec:

Q6600 @ 4.01Ghz
Gigabyte P35T DQ6
Kingston HyperX DDR3 1375mhz @ 1426mhz 7-7-7-24
Corsair HX620watt
Sapphire 3870 Single

3870 @ default:
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3870 OC @ 891/1314:
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Rig Spec:

Q6600 @ 4.01Ghz
Gigabyte P35T DQ6
Kingston HyperX DDR3 1375mhz @ 1339mhz 7-7-7-23
Corsair HX620watt
Sapphire 3870 Crossfire

3870 CF @ default:
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3870 CF @ 820/1250:
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post Dec 2 2007, 10:53 AM

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but still the 3870 CF score kinda lower i believe compared to 2900xt CF which can get 20k score of 3dmark smile.gif


ps: i thought the 2900xt default memory was 2Ghz aite?

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It's because of the motherboard. The P35T-DQ6 does not offer dual 16x PCI-Ex 2.0...Maybe should replace motherboard with X38 or X48, when there's enough resources for that.


Added on December 2, 2007, 11:43 amAnyone up for setting Dual HD3850 512MB CF-X? I surely want to see the results as HD3850 512MB seems to be the card that offers the best bang for the buck at the moment.

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QUOTE(irenic @ Dec 2 2007, 07:00 AM)
now let me post my single and CF results..
Rig spec:

Q6600 @ 4.01Ghz
Gigabyte P35T DQ6
Kingston HyperX DDR3 1375mhz @ 1426mhz 7-7-7-24
Corsair HX620watt
Sapphire 3870 Single

3870 @ default:
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3870 OC @ 891/1314:
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Rig Spec:

Q6600 @ 4.01Ghz
Gigabyte P35T DQ6
Kingston HyperX DDR3 1375mhz @ 1339mhz 7-7-7-23
Corsair HX620watt
Sapphire 3870 Crossfire

3870 CF @ default:
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3870 CF @ 820/1250:
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good score, bro any comment while playing games? how the fps? if wanna compare to 8800gt sli

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referring to those results i think 3870 CF pawned single 8800 ultra. thumbup.gif

Nice result to share. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(ocz @ Dec 2 2007, 12:26 PM)
referring to those results i think 3870 CF pawned single 8800 ultra. thumbup.gif

Nice result to share. rclxms.gif
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ya, it just base on 3dmark score, but when in real game nvidia perform better even 2900xt cf score more then 20k, but when turn in game ati loose, just waiting comment @ post from who hv play game on 3870 crossfire, wanna know did it perform better then sli
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QUOTE(arjuna_mfna @ Dec 2 2007, 12:31 PM)
ya, it just base on 3dmark score, but when in real game nvidia perform better even 2900xt cf score more then 20k, but when turn in game ati loose, just waiting comment @ post from who hv play game on 3870 crossfire, wanna know did it perform better then sli
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Thats right bro,Ati lose when playing games like Flight Sim X in overall performance. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(gengstapo @ Dec 2 2007, 10:53 AM)
g0od jobs bro

but still the 3870 CF score kinda lower i believe compared to 2900xt CF which can get 20k score of 3dmark smile.gif
ps: i thought the 2900xt default memory was 2Ghz aite?
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that for 1gb ddr4 version biggrin.gif

QUOTE(clayclws @ Dec 2 2007, 11:41 AM)
It's because of the motherboard. The P35T-DQ6 does not offer dual 16x PCI-Ex 2.0...Maybe should replace motherboard with X38 or X48, when there's enough resources for that.


Added on December 2, 2007, 11:43 amAnyone up for setting Dual HD3850 512MB CF-X? I surely want to see the results as HD3850 512MB seems to be the card that offers the best bang for the buck at the moment.
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erm yeah.. regarding to cstkl it's bcoz of my mobo.. btw i already have x38.. but i dun have good ram to make it a fair comparison... i'm waiting for ddr3 board coming to m'sia.. x48 perhaps rolleyes.gif


QUOTE(arjuna_mfna @ Dec 2 2007, 12:09 PM)
good score, bro any comment while playing games? how the fps? if wanna compare to 8800gt sli
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i havent got chance too test this cf with games yet.. so many commitment.. but i still cant compare with 8800gt SLI, coz never try them.. the best is only to compare it with 8800gt single..

maybe others who has try 8800gt SLI can contribute ur result here thumbup.gif
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i've just tried crysis and when i asked it to set the graphic to optimal setting, it just detect it as medium spec..
so to make it comparable with my previous 8800gt, where i used high settings, i manually adjust all the settings to high, 1920x1200 and no AA.

specs:

Q6600 @ 3.2ghz (400x8)
hyperX ddr3 @ 1333 cl7
p35t dq6
3870cf @ default
xp sp2

Q6600 @ 3.2ghz (400x8)
hyperX ddr3 @ 1333 cl7
p35t dq6
Single 8800gt OC @ 700/1750/1800
xp sp2

using fraps to monitor,

avg fps for 8800gt is 26 while 3870 CF is 41..
lowest fps, i notice 8800gt only drop to 23 while 3870 CF drops to 33 (almost 20% performance drop compare to 8800gt 12% ) ..
highest fps 8800gt 31 and 3870 CF is 46

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why not try it on vista?

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QUOTE(irenic @ Dec 2 2007, 04:33 PM)
i've just tried crysis and when i asked it to set the graphic to optimal setting, it just detect it as medium spec..
so to make it comparable with my previous 8800gt, where i used high settings, i manually adjust all the settings to high, 1920x1200 and no AA.

specs:

Q6600 @ 3.2ghz (400x8)
hyperX ddr3 @ 1333 cl7
p35t dq6
3870cf @ default
xp sp2

Q6600 @ 3.2ghz (400x8)
hyperX ddr3 @ 1333 cl7
p35t dq6
Single 8800gt OC @ 700/1750/1800
xp sp2

using fraps to monitor,

avg fps for 8800gt is 26 while 3870 CF is 41..
lowest fps, i notice 8800gt only drop to 23 while 3870 CF drops to 33 (almost 20% performance drop compare to 8800gt 12% ) ..
highest fps 8800gt 31 and 3870 CF is 46
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41fps for 1920x1200 reso, that very good achievement... ,my lcd reso just up to 1680x1050, so it should get lil higher fps, looks i'm going for cf next year...

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QUOTE(irenic @ Dec 2 2007, 04:33 PM)
i've just tried crysis and when i asked it to set the graphic to optimal setting, it just detect it as medium spec..
so to make it comparable with my previous 8800gt, where i used high settings, i manually adjust all the settings to high, 1920x1200 and no AA.

specs:

Q6600 @ 3.2ghz (400x8)
hyperX ddr3 @ 1333 cl7
p35t dq6
3870cf @ default
xp sp2

Q6600 @ 3.2ghz (400x8)
hyperX ddr3 @ 1333 cl7
p35t dq6
Single 8800gt OC @ 700/1750/1800
xp sp2

using fraps to monitor,

avg fps for 8800gt is 26 while 3870 CF is 41..
lowest fps, i notice 8800gt only drop to 23 while 3870 CF drops to 33 (almost 20% performance drop compare to 8800gt 12% ) ..
highest fps 8800gt 31 and 3870 CF is 46
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what about your 1g hd 2900xt? or do you have 2900xt CF for us?
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hmm i'll trt it on vista soon..

sorry the 1gb hd 2900xt i sold edi..

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wow..it doesn't show an impressive result on CF setup, like 8800GT SLI...imatuer of driver? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(168257061 @ Dec 2 2007, 07:40 PM)
wow..it doesn't show an impressive result on CF setup, like 8800GT SLI...imatuer of driver? hmm.gif
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this is such a silly statement.

one that is an impressive result
second nvidia game without a mature driver for sli??...

anyways this is a overclocking thread dudes..
not a discussion about HD3870 vs 8800gt.
or even the performance


this is what i can tell u about the bios

using the stock bios.. even though u cant go more than 862.. but it was gaming stable 862/2500 easy.

with the new bios that overcomes the pll divider... the mem u can overclock so much and very buggy with CF.




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Sapphire 3870 new bios :

1. fixed the 862MHz limit.
2. fixed bugs of the fan speed from always 25%-25% to 35%-50%.

download : http://www.uploading.com/files/IFYV1NN0/112007.rar.html
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Dec 2 2007, 08:20 PM)
this is such a silly statement.

one that is an impressive result
second nvidia game without a mature driver for sli??...

anyways this is a overclocking thread dudes..
not a discussion about HD3870 vs 8800gt.
or even the performance
this is what i can tell u about the bios

using the stock bios.. even though u cant go more than 862.. but it was gaming stable 862/2500 easy.

with the new bios that overcomes the pll divider... the mem u can overclock so much and very buggy with CF.
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erm do u mean its better if we dont flash it using the new bios?

QUOTE(rlhc17 @ Dec 2 2007, 09:07 PM)
Sapphire 3870 new bios :

1. fixed the 862MHz limit.
2. fixed bugs of the fan speed from always 25%-25% to 35%-50%.

download :  http://www.uploading.com/files/IFYV1NN0/112007.rar.html
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thx!! biggrin.gif
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The latest 3dMark06 world record still using HD2900XT.
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QUOTE(§layerXT @ Dec 4 2007, 02:31 AM)
The latest 3dMark06 world record still using HD2900XT.
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so? unsure.gif

1st.. look at the price.. 2900xt 1gb @ 1700 or 2900xt 512mb @ 1300 vs 3870 @ 850..

2nd, i dun think many top ocer are using 3870 currently.. i dunno why, but it's true.. i looked at xs and only few using it... maybe it's not hardcore enuff haha

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Any cooler that fit ATI HD3870 yet biggrin.gif

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my ati 3870 with fitted with TR-03 biggrin.gif
This is my 4th gfx card that been using this cooler from NV 7900GT - ATI 1950XTX - NV 8800GT - ATI 3870 &.................


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how's the temp compared to the factory cooler?
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rlhc, try this ! tongue.gif

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QUOTE(seanl @ Dec 4 2007, 05:47 PM)
how's the temp compared to the factory cooler?
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Stock cooler full load = 82c
TR-03 with 12cm high speed fan full load = 49c thumbup.gif


QUOTE(sukhoi37 @ Dec 4 2007, 08:14 PM)
rlhc, try this !  tongue.gif

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wait ah....i need a spare gfx to standby sad.gif
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QUOTE(rlhc17 @ Dec 4 2007, 11:54 AM)
my ati 3870 with fitted with TR-03 biggrin.gif
This is my 4th gfx card that been using this cooler from NV 7900GT - ATI 1950XTX - NV 8800GT - ATI 3870 &.................
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TR-03? Is it Thermalright HR-03?
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QUOTE(clayclws @ Dec 6 2007, 10:54 AM)
TR-03? Is it Thermalright HR-03?
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Yup..........Thermalright HR-03
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QUOTE(rlhc17 @ Dec 6 2007, 01:09 PM)
Yup..........Thermalright HR-03
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wat brand is that? sapphire?
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Thermalright HR-03 and the newer HR-03 Plus is a 3rd party cooling solution...the brand is Thermalright. You can see it first hand at PC-Zone at Lowyat.
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sukhoi core clock madness..........

mine 3870 stock fan speed also very scary on full load, 92oC @ full load...... incredible...but after pushing the fan speed to 60% quite ok it turns out to be, full load at around 60oC only
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Quote frm Topic Title,

Got CFX benchmarking??
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QUOTE(LExus65 @ Dec 6 2007, 05:18 PM)
sukhoi core clock madness..........

mine 3870 stock fan speed also very scary on full load, 92oC @ full load...... incredible...but after pushing the fan speed to 60% quite ok it turns out to be, full load at around 60oC only
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not me la.
check out the posted link.

how's the card's noise at that speed?
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QUOTE(clayclws @ Dec 6 2007, 02:09 PM)
Thermalright HR-03 and the newer HR-03 Plus is a 3rd party cooling solution...the brand is Thermalright. You can see it first hand at PC-Zone at Lowyat.
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i mean the GC....

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QUOTE(KenDiriwan @ Dec 6 2007, 05:26 PM)
Quote frm Topic Title,

Got CFX benchmarking??
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for CFX, there's no officially supported driver yet..




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Hey guys.

Does a single 3870 pawn 8800GTS 320MB? Might be thinking of changing card tho. blush.gif
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noise at 60% fan speed still quite ok, not very intrusive, so if enclose in casing it should be fine.... but what rpm i dunno it show in percentage only..

hoho i notice that only after i post.......... lazy to edit hehe .......

now must wait for non reference card design for a voltage bump to get some madness result......
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my fren had a abit ip35 pro board and tried xfire 3850...he got 8k score for 3dmark06....for single card he already got 7-8k liao...wat is happening? bios problem? i aware his 2nd slot is 4x...but still the result wont be that low
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QUOTE(intothefantasy @ Dec 8 2007, 03:09 PM)
my fren had a abit ip35 pro board and tried xfire 3850...he got 8k score for 3dmark06....for single card he already got 7-8k liao...wat is happening? bios problem? i aware his 2nd slot is 4x...but still the result wont be that low
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mind to tell us his full system specs?
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i wonder why the score seems a bit low for crossfire.. neway what is his result with only single 3850?
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QUOTE(irenic @ Dec 9 2007, 07:27 AM)
i wonder why the score seems a bit low for crossfire.. neway what is his result with only single 3850?
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Maybe he forgot d Crossfire bridge? blink.gif Ok, just cracking a lame joke... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(irenic @ Dec 9 2007, 07:27 AM)
i wonder why the score seems a bit low for crossfire.. neway what is his result with only single 3850?
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my fren single card get around 7.8k....we put the xfire bridge ma...need put 1 or 2? we put 1 only...i also just put at my maximus
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QUOTE(intothefantasy @ Dec 10 2007, 12:07 AM)
my fren single card get around 7.8k....we put the xfire bridge ma...need put 1 or 2? we put 1 only...i also just put at my maximus
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Only one bridge is required. I'm just being lame and silly.
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QUOTE(clayclws @ Dec 10 2007, 01:09 AM)
Only one bridge is required. I'm just being lame and silly.
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yea i know, i heard need to do something at the abit ip35 pro bios there abt the pcie..
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did the 3870 comes with the x-fire bridge?
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QUOTE(Radeon @ Dec 10 2007, 08:34 AM)
did the 3870 comes with the x-fire bridge?
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3850 already come with the bridge...i think 3870 should have
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yeap all come with the bridge, no worries......

but strangely u need only 1 ......... hehe wander what is the 2nd for......

btw, how is the gaming performance on xcrossfire on high resoultion like 1920*1200..... significant improvement ?? i dun get many reviews on these......
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i think it's hard to find review on CFX yet due to lack of driver..

but i believe AMD are working hard on it and maybe we can see a proper review once phenom and CFX mobos flood the market biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(hanny562 @ Dec 10 2007, 12:04 AM)
my 3850 256 single..forget how oc till how much already
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u use stock cooler or other cooler? and mind sharing ur core & mem clock?

gonna try mine soon after i settle down my am2 proc... rclxms.gif
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im gonna be a lab rat..gonna try phenom with 3870 cf soon,just hoping for my money to come faster than i expected rclxm9.gif
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Trying out the Spider platform? What mobo will you be using?
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maybe msi k9a2 platinum,btw i wonder does tlb errata bug only infect 2.4ghz proc and above in phenom series?how about 9500?

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QUOTE(naz @ Dec 13 2007, 11:39 AM)
u use stock cooler or other cooler? and mind sharing ur core & mem clock?

gonna try mine soon after i settle down my am2 proc...  rclxms.gif
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yup..i'm using the stock cooler..quite hot that i oc like this...here

CPU : AMD AM2 5200+ 2.6ghz @ 3.3Ghz
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G/C : Sapphire HD 3850 GDDR3 256MB (740/1058)

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Not much progress in here. Guess few people got HD38x0 cards?
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a lot of 3870 and 3850 user , but not familiar with it i guess........... just like i dunn how to use the ctalayst overdirve at first hehe..... then rivatuner also dunno how to set the fan speed....... wakakaka....

btw i tot CFX driver still quite buggy on the spider platform ??
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yup,agreed..not much activity..maybe because others are busy OCing their X2...hhehe

btw, did anyone managed to OC the 3850 to the max? can share with me? Im using Asus 3850 256DDR3. Yet to OC my gc as too afraid to do it since its my 1st expensive GC. biggrin.gif before this only using normal gc,so no point OC.huhuhu..


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QUOTE(hanny562 @ Dec 14 2007, 02:16 PM)
yup..i'm using the stock cooler..quite hot that i oc like this...here

CPU : AMD AM2 5200+ 2.6ghz @ 3.3Ghz
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Wow! Core 740?? blink.gif Mind to share ur temp with that setting? brows.gif

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guys...i have a 3850 here...you all oc using wat software?ati tray and ati tool cannot use...riva tuner can automate oc?just like ati tool? smile.gif
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 15 2007, 06:09 PM)
Go for ATI Overdrive smile.gif

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that means,just use the ATI Catalyst software? Because the Overdrive is in the Catalyst. huhuu

would like to try OC my 3850 also..but afraid bout the temp... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(naz @ Dec 15 2007, 06:34 PM)
that means,just use the ATI Catalyst software? Because the Overdrive is in the Catalyst. huhuu

would like to try OC my 3850 also..but afraid bout the temp...  sweat.gif
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And the temp when load is kinda scary. For my case, load temp is 91 degree sweat.gif sweat.gif

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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 15 2007, 06:37 PM)
My card still virgin also. Will oc when i free.  wink.gif
And the temp when load is kinda scary. For my case, load temp is 91 degree  sweat.gif  sweat.gif

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errr,why so hot ur gc when load?? whats ur fan rpm? mine when load i think not more than 60C only.. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(naz @ Dec 15 2007, 06:56 PM)
mine virgin too..no time to OC my 3850 as im concentrating on my X2.  tongue.gif

errr,why so hot ur gc when load?? whats ur fan rpm? mine when load i think not more than 60C only..  thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 15 2007, 06:57 PM)
I cannot check the fan rpm. How you check?  sad.gif

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HIS didnt give u the software for ur GC? mine is Asus. They gave i think,3 softwares. 1 for Video,1 for in-game gc setting and the other 1,is for the setting of the GC. like u can set the fan rpm,the core & memory clock thumbup.gif From the software,i can set the fan rpm. dunno bout HIS brand though.. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(naz @ Dec 15 2007, 07:05 PM)
HIS didnt give u the software for ur GC? mine is Asus. They gave i think,3 softwares. 1 for Video,1 for in-game gc setting and the other 1,is for the setting of the GC. like u can set the fan rpm,the core & memory clock  thumbup.gif  From the software,i can set the fan rpm. dunno bout HIS brand though.. sweat.gif
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Ermm..ok.
Gonna go back and check it out. smile.gif
I think mostly dun have laugh.gif laugh.gif

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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 15 2007, 07:08 PM)
Ermm..ok.
Gonna go back and check it out. smile.gif 
I think mostly dun have  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

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maybe u can try other 3rd party software? but i dunno what's the software since i havent tried one yet because i found that software given by Asus is more than what i need. thumbup.gif

so,change to Asus brand la bro...go sell ur HIS 3850..and grab Asus 3870! brows.gif

btw, im still waiting for anyone who have OCed their 3850 with stock cooler. wanna know the temp during full load and is there any big difference with stock core & mem clock... hmm.gif
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sweat.gif
maybe u can try other 3rd party software? but i dunno what's the software since i havent tried one yet because i found that software given by Asus is more than what i need.  thumbup.gif

so,change to Asus brand la bro...go sell ur HIS 3850..and grab Asus 3870!  brows.gif

btw, im still waiting for anyone who have OCed their 3850 with stock cooler. wanna know the temp during full load and is there any big difference with stock core & mem clock...  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(naz @ Dec 14 2007, 06:38 PM)
yup,agreed..not much activity..maybe because others are busy OCing their X2...hhehe

btw, did anyone managed to OC the 3850 to the max? can share with me? Im using Asus 3850 256DDR3. Yet to OC my gc as too afraid to do it since its my 1st expensive GC.  biggrin.gif  before this only using normal gc,so no point OC.huhuhu..


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Wow! Core 740??  blink.gif  Mind to share ur temp with that setting?  brows.gif
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yupz...about 63~66 degree C..quite cold..


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QUOTE(hanny562 @ Dec 15 2007, 09:39 PM)
yupz...about 63~66 degree C..quite cold..
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hurrmm...quite ok the temp..not that hot since u are using the stock cooler..

btw,is the temp above is during the full load? or during idle? hmm.gif


EDIT: around 4-5C increased between idle and full load...so,what's the RPM of ur cooler fan? did u set it to 100% speed? im really interested to try it since i've done with my X2. drool.gif

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idle about 59 full load about 63~66 degree C

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Wow...all temperature so nice.
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 15 2007, 09:57 PM)
Wow...all temperature so nice.
What software you guys view for the temperature?? hmm.gif

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Wow...all temperature so nice.
What software you guys view for the temperature?? hmm.gif

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used Catalyst..in the catalyst did display the temp..when it's idle and full load

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I use Rivatuner wor...hmm.gif
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i have some doubt here about proc core voltage when OCing my GC.

If I wanna OC my gc, do i need to increase proc core voltage? let say my voltage now is 1.35v. if i OC my gc,will there be any instability issue due to my voltage? anyone can clear my doubt? icon_question.gif
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uish..my 3850 temp quite scary woo
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uish..my 3850 temp quite scary woo
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why not try to increase the cooler fan speed? my default fan speed is 40% (dunno the exact rpm as it only stated in percentage), the temp is around 50-52C when idle. i changed the speed to 60%, idle temp is around 44-45C. thumbup.gif Will post some screenies tomorrow..

btw,im using Asus and they've given a software so that i can change the fan speed. for other brand,i dunno. wink.gif
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QUOTE(naz @ Dec 16 2007, 03:47 AM)
why not try to increase the cooler fan speed? my default fan speed is 40% (dunno the exact rpm as it only stated in percentage), the temp is around 50-52C when idle. i changed the speed to 60%, idle temp is around 44-45C. thumbup.gif  Will post some screenies tomorrow..

btw,im using Asus and they've given a software so that i can change the fan speed. for other brand,i dunno.  wink.gif
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duhh..im using gbyte..any other way to change the fan speed?


Added on December 16, 2007, 7:22 pmerk..got liao..
anyway thanks to XTREME..hehe nice guy

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QUOTE(fesick @ Dec 16 2007, 06:34 PM)
duhh..im using gbyte..any other way to change the fan speed?


Added on December 16, 2007, 7:22 pmerk..got liao..
anyway thanks to XTREME..hehe nice guy
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How?? Using RivaTuner???

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yerp..but i set to 52% only..cuz when i set 65% fan speed n above..it bcome too noisy..
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QUOTE(fesick @ Dec 16 2007, 07:53 PM)
yerp..but i set to 52% only..cuz when i set 65% fan speed n above..it bcome too noisy..
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What software you use?? smile.gif

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What software you use??  smile.gif

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How?? Using RivaTuner???
<< yerp..yes i use r.tuner

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im using AcBel 450W. thumbup.gif

are u able to control the speed of ur fan yet? i've no idea about other software to control it since this is my first time im using the software given by asus. before this,all normal mid-end card...so,no need to control the fan. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(naz @ Dec 16 2007, 10:51 PM)
im using AcBel 450W.  thumbup.gif

are u able to control the speed of ur fan yet? i've no idea about other software to control it since this is my first time im using the software given by asus. before this,all normal mid-end card...so,no need to control the fan.  biggrin.gif
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Same with me then.
But I found out that the psu provide not enough juice for my hardwares.
Mind to list out the hardware for me to refer?? notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 16 2007, 10:54 PM)
Same with me then.
But I found out that the psu provide not enough juice for my hardwares.
Mind to list out the hardware for me to refer?? notworthy.gif

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not so impressive pc though compare to ur rig... biggrin.gif

why u said ur psu not enough juice? u tried OC ur gc before?
maybe can try give "tongkat ali" juice... laugh.gif joking~
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Ermm...hard to say here. Sometime will experience random restart. laugh.gif laugh.gif
And when i load the 3850, 12v rail from 12.10v drop to 11.90. shocking.gif shocking.gif
Like this still ok, PSU keluar bunyi pula doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 16 2007, 11:19 PM)
Ermm...hard to say here. Sometime will experience random restart.  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
And when i load the 3850, 12v rail from 12.10v drop to 11.90.  shocking.gif  shocking.gif
Like this still ok, PSU keluar bunyi pula  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif

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i think,its time for u to change to 1kW psu + 3870 series.. brows.gif

im still waiting for hanny562 to share his experience of OCing his 3850 before i OC mine.. icon_idea.gif
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gaming in vista really² sucks.. dx10 problematic..

on the stock bios... i'm observing the core clock will flunctuate while gaming.. from 2d to 3d clock.. still quite tricky maybe ATI tech..

when i set fix 777 core clock for 2d/3d using rivatuner (a litte bit buggy i think) .. even in idle the temp will raise...

auto fan seems not working right.. set fix fan around 40-50% will caused load temp around 60C only.. atleast not noisy when we set around 60-70% fan speed..

actually the card is cool... only the fan speed not working right..
will try latest bios later... and revert to winxp...
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Anyone oc his card already? Share screenie here. smile.gif
I scare to oc due to my PSU sweat.gif

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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 18 2007, 03:18 PM)
Anyone oc his card already? Share screenie here. smile.gif
I scare to oc due to my PSU sweat.gif

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i've tried yesterday. max temp hit when i stress the gc is around 67-68C. thumbup.gif fan speed 100% if temp is more than 65C. rclxms.gif
core clock is 700mhz, memory clock is 1000mhz. tested with NFS ProStreet,Crysis,FIFA08...All good. Nvr reach the 68C temp when playing games. wink.gif
i'll post the ss later since im at my kampung.

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3850 owner..is it really worth to buy this card? 3870 is out of my budget..
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if u really have tight budget,then go for 3850. but i think there's one forumer selling 3870 at RM770. forgot the brand. FYI,i bought my Asus 3850 at that price! doh.gif after 3 weeks, 3870 change the price to rm770. very sad... sad.gif

btw,3850 is worth the value for me + the Asus brand is really good... thumbup.gif

wanna buy mine? brows.gif
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QUOTE(naz @ Dec 18 2007, 06:17 PM)
i've tried yesterday. max temp hit when i stress the gc is around 67-68C.  thumbup.gif fan speed 100% if temp is more than 65C.  rclxms.gif
core clock is 700mhz, memory clock is 2000mhz. tested with NFS ProStreet,Crysis,FIFA08...All good. Nvr reach the 68C temp when playing games.  wink.gif
i'll post the ss later since im at my kampung.
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QUOTE(egoiste @ Dec 18 2007, 06:26 PM)
3850 owner..is it really worth to buy this card? 3870 is out of my budget..
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3850 owner here..really good card!
better than spending for those 26xx oc XX series watever~

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3850 is a very value card.. even 2 of 3850 can achieve almost as good performance as a single high end card in certain area..
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 18 2007, 10:30 PM)
Wow...do u benchmark w 3DMark?  drool.gif  drool.gif
Want to see how much it improves tongue.gif

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i've benchmarked it with 3DMark06. Improved around 1000+ nod.gif before OC,the score is around 6k+. after OCed,score increased to 7k+. dunno whether its good enough or not hmm.gif but i certainly feels the different when play games like NFS & Crysis. thumbup.gif

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go laa OC ur card. then post ur ss here brows.gif im still at kampung now.will post my ss once i go back KL.

@MangKoK^ayon,

yup,a very good temp & OC! thumbup.gif
as i said,the temp will be around 55-56C max when play games.if stress it,temp max is 68C. so,very good card indeed!

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How come so low for your 3DMark06?
My card stock can go near 9k already hmm.gif

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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 19 2007, 02:58 AM)
How come so low for your 3DMark06?
My card stock can go near 9k already hmm.gif

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QUOTE(naz @ Dec 19 2007, 03:04 AM)
yeaa...thats what im thinking ..but then,i think its my ram that limit the score. sad.gif dun have any idea,but logically,my proc & mobo is good,so should be the ram that limits my gc...(correct me if im wrong)  sweat.gif
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 19 2007, 03:06 AM)
Put a 3DMark06 screenie here.  smile.gif

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dont have it now.my PC is in KL.im in melaka rite now.using laptop. biggrin.gif will do it on thursday...wait yaa... icon_rolleyes.gif

btw,do u think that my ram is bottleneck my gc? or its my proc? icon_question.gif

if really my ram,then im sure gonna buy another performance ram instead of proc cooler..huhuhu sweat.gif
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QUOTE(naz @ Dec 19 2007, 03:14 AM)
dont have it now.my PC is in KL.im in melaka rite now.using laptop.  biggrin.gif  will do it on thursday...wait yaa... icon_rolleyes.gif

btw,do u think that my ram is bottleneck my gc? or its my proc?  icon_question.gif

if really my ram,then im sure gonna buy another performance ram instead of proc cooler..huhuhu  sweat.gif
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Not so sure. laugh.gif laugh.gif
Maybe it is bottlenecked by your processor. hmm.gif hmm.gif

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3850 owner..is it really worth to buy this card? 3870 is out of my budget..
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http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showth...908#post2580149
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showth...t=168502&page=2

some thread about modded bios n upping the voltage smile.gif

users report speeds beyond stock 3870~~!
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 19 2007, 03:21 AM)
Not so sure.  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
Maybe it is bottlenecked by your processor.  hmm.gif  hmm.gif

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surely cpu ler.. mine also 10k when using 3ghz.. if not suffers 2-3k...
that's why i waiting for phenom to see the difference.. expecting 12k..

with current cpu.. oc gpu also no use.. this 3870 is overkill..

don't worry la bro.. i ran my rig using 400W only..
yesterday flashed with latest bios.. very good one.. fan speed fixed.. onload 60C not like before reaching 8+C
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Dec 19 2007, 10:01 AM)
surely cpu ler.. mine also 10k when using 3ghz.. if not suffers 2-3k...
that's why i waiting for phenom to see the difference.. expecting 12k..

with current cpu.. oc gpu also no use.. this 3870 is overkill..

don't worry la bro.. i ran my rig using 400W only..
yesterday flashed with latest bios.. very good one.. fan speed fixed.. onload 60C not like before reaching 8+C
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i'm using 3870 bro..
donno 3850 got same problem or not..

for the guide u can go here..
http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=11

i'm using ATIFLASH.. just same like flashing mobo..

search the bios here if any...
http://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/index.p...face=&memSize=0
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Thanks bro. smile.gif
Not really dare to flash it le laugh.gif

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lol.. it's less risk than flashing the mobo..
u can also flash for different brand bios especially OC ver..

seriously i recommend to flash.. if not the slow fan speed will ruin the chip.. or u can tweak using rivatuner then..
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Dec 19 2007, 11:04 AM)
lol.. it's less risk than flashing the mobo..
u can also flash for different brand bios especially OC ver..

seriously i recommend to flash.. if not the slow fan speed will ruin the chip.. or u can tweak using rivatuner then..
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Is it the bios predefined w certain fan speed??

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3850 Modded Bios : http://www.iax-tech.com/video/3800biosmod/01.htm

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it's ATI..

from my observation the default bios always stay around 25-30%..
eventhough onload.. that's why quite n dangerous.. easily goes 90C...

the new bios will increase the fan speed accordingly depends on gpu temp..
50% fan speed is just nice... not so loud n can bring the temp down..

we can hear the fan sound when reaching >70% fan speed.. but still not reach there as the temp is remain 60C onload with new bios..

100% fan speed just plain stupid.. we will ruin the fan faster..

maybe it's predefined as
30-50c == 25%
50-70c == 50%
70-100c == 70%

as different rig spec got different air ventilation so the result may vary...
we can cater the fan problem by using rivatuner..
go here
http://www.guru3d.com/article/article/449/1/

i suggest the great link should be placed in the front page for better view/referrence later...
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-pws- are you using his 3850 turbo 512mb version?
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Nope...My 3850 is just normal one. 256MB. smile.gif
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oic,because now i am thinking to buy his 3850 512mb turbo version hmm.gif
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I see. If you thinking to buy 512MB Turbo version, I think u better go for 3870. smile.gif
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I see. If you thinking to buy 512MB Turbo version, I think u better go for 3870. smile.gif
Just my 2 cents

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QUOTE(8tvt @ Dec 19 2007, 10:01 AM)
surely cpu ler.. mine also 10k when using 3ghz.. if not suffers 2-3k...
that's why i waiting for phenom to see the difference.. expecting 12k..

with current cpu.. oc gpu also no use.. this 3870 is overkill..

don't worry la bro.. i ran my rig using 400W only..
yesterday flashed with latest bios.. very good one.. fan speed fixed.. onload 60C not like before reaching 8+C
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@8tvt,

are u sure that its the cpu is bottlenecking my gc? because im using only corsair valueram sweat.gif my x2 4000+ is running at 2.5ghz. i wanna know whether its the cpu or ram that is limiting my gc performance.. icon_question.gif
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IMHO and from my experience,an Athlon X2 4000+@stock will bottleneck my 8800GTS 320mb which only score around 7k in 3dmark06....after i oc'ed my proc to 2.7ghz, my 3dmark06 score increase to 8k+ with SM2.0 and SM3.0 score increase alot..the same situation happens when i change my GC to 3870...from 2.1ghz to 2.7ghz give me around 10-15fps bonus in certain games such as company of heros

so i would say,current X2(even 6400+) proc will bottleneck any high end or top midrange graphic card which include 3870,8800GT and so on

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QUOTE(noobianz @ Dec 19 2007, 01:08 PM)
IMHO and from my experience,an Athlon X2 4000+@stock will bottleneck my 8800GTS 320mb which only score around 7k in 3dmark06(now im using HD3870)...after i oc'ed my proc to 2.7ghz, my 3dmark06 score increase to 8k+ with SM2.0 and SM3.0 score increase alot..the same situation happens when i change my GC to 3870...from 2.1ghz to 2.7ghz give me around 10-15fps bonus in certain games such as company of heros

so i would say,current X2(even 6400+) proc will bottleneck any high end or top midrange graphic card which include 3870,8800GT and so on
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my x2 4000+ is running at 2.5ghz already sweat.gif after i OC my card,the score increase around 1k+

i saw ur signature,u r using Corsair valueram too,rite? so,would u say that i need to push my proc more so that i can get at least 9k score for 3DMark06?

i saw in review in the internet,3DMark06 score around 11k+ using stock core&memory clock! blink.gif

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how did they do like that?? rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(syapl @ Dec 19 2007, 12:18 PM)
after i buy it i think can oc to 770mhz 2250mhz ,since the cooler no bad hmm.gif
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u can oc more than that...im sure...can beat stock 3870  flex.gif
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how can my SAPPHIRE HD 3870 score so low??? rclxub.gif

7686!!! ONLY???

my testbed

AMD x2 4000
SAPPHIRE HD 3870 (776/1125) ~stock clock~
2x Aeneon 1GB ddr2 800
Biostar TA 770 A2+

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btw, wat is the best temp for this card when OC?

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how can my SAPPHIRE HD 3870 score so low???  rclxub.gif

7686!!! ONLY???

my testbed

AMD x2 4000
SAPPHIRE HD 3870 (776/1125) ~stock clock~
2x Aeneon 1GB ddr2 800
Biostar TA 770 A2+

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btw, wat is the best temp for this card when OC?
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QUOTE(syapl @ Dec 19 2007, 08:46 PM)
cpu performance no so good,bottleneck
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aah le.. even 3850 score higher than that..
time to Oc ur proc bro..
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aah le.. even 3850 score higher than that..
time to Oc ur proc bro..
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syazwanreno : sadly to say my 3850 is at ur 3870 stock speed now smile.gif

i've flashed the bios with the one found on this page:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=2638798
http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?p=5391413

before this, my card wouldn't do more than 730...now :

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i'm happy with my card...but remember...must set ur rivatuner fan speed @60% fixed...or not it will be bit warm... smile.gif

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bro MangKoK^ayon..ngehhe funny nick..
eh urs 3850 is 256mb right?
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bro MangKoK^ayon..ngehhe funny nick..
eh urs 3850 is 256mb right?
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QUOTE(syapl @ Dec 19 2007, 08:46 PM)
cpu performance no so good,bottleneck
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may i know whats the best speed for proc to get a better score in 3DMark06?? have u tried one? brows.gif

so far,i knew only mr. syazwanreno has provided his SS for the 3DMark06 score. maybe,mr. MangKoK^ayon can provide his 3DMark06 SS after OCed his gc icon_idea.gif

maybe,my proc need to OC to the speed same as mr. -pWs- i think. laugh.gif
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@naz- i think they r using Quad processor as their test bed for 3850

btw,here r some screenies of my 3870...with a crappy X2 system

3870@Stock with an Athlon X2 4000+@2.7ghz
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3870@844/2592 with and Athlon X2 4000+@2.8ghz
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hope this will help u guys

OT:btw,me ex-mmu too xD

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QUOTE(MangKoK^ayon @ Dec 19 2007, 09:58 PM)
syazwanreno : sadly to say my 3850 is at ur 3870 stock speed now smile.gif

i've flashed the bios with the one found on this page:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=2638798
http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?p=5391413

before this, my card wouldn't do more than 730...now :

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rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif

i'm happy with my card...but remember...must set ur rivatuner fan speed @60% fixed...or not it will be bit warm...  smile.gif
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Which bios u flash to? Mind to upload here?
What software you use to flash? And do you Vmod your card?? notworthy.gif

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So sad. sad.gif
ATI Winflash wont work for me doh.gif doh.gif

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My hand at last itchy already laugh.gif

Overclock a bit. And the result is 9402
Setting: 715/918

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@PWS,

really nice score.

even with your F3 +3850 can pawn several street over my opty set.

really nice rig u have
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Thanks smile.gif

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Use atiwinflash...y cannot?used the right command alredy?atiflash -p -f X filename.ext ?

im using amd 3000+ only....bottleneck for sure tongue.gif

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The software i used is Windows based flashing program.
I think yours is flashed by using boot method right?

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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 20 2007, 07:19 AM)
The software i used is Windows based flashing program.
I think yours is flashed by using boot method right?

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I think I dun wan flash already as I seldom play game.
Tried 749/999. But unable to hit 10k 3DMark06 doh.gif doh.gif

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hehe...up to you....but if you decide too...i can help smile.gif
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Thanks bro smile.gif

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hmm...dunno why my sapphire 3870 cant pass 880/1270, after sometimes of gaming(cod4) it will hang a while and the rivatuner fan speed (fixed at 60%) will change to auto. no artifacts though.
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QUOTE(sukhoi37 @ Dec 20 2007, 11:48 AM)
hmm...dunno why my sapphire 3870 cant pass 880/1270, after sometimes of gaming(cod4) it will hang a while and the rivatuner fan speed (fixed at 60%) will change to auto. no artifacts though.
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tried the 'unlocked' bios?
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i'm using the bios in the first post :'Bios / OC hotfix'
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would be nicer if can show something whistling.gif brows.gif
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any better achievement?
would be nicer if can show something  whistling.gif  brows.gif
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so i got nothing to show. sweat.gif
tried a few unlocked bios, not much different. doh.gif
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maybe need better cooling and vmod smile.gif
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What speed your new bios clocked at??

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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 20 2007, 10:34 PM)
@MangKoK^ayon
What speed your new bios clocked at??

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core - 770
mem - around 1000 rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(MangKoK^ayon @ Dec 20 2007, 10:39 PM)
core - 770
mem - around 1000  rclxms.gif
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I see. How bout 3DMark06?
Bench already wink.gif

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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 20 2007, 10:40 PM)
I see. How bout 3DMark06?
Bench already  wink.gif

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Oh I see. Your is 939 or AM2??
939 dual core quite expensive. Better change whole hardware smile.gif

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Im back from kampung and as promised,here is my SS for my OCed gc.

-pWs-, really nice score there even before gc. i think,its the proc that bottleneck my gc as -pWs- using 3850 with proc speed 3.2ghz,stock can score 9402. compared to noobianz,he's using 3870 with proc speed 2.7ghz,stock score only 9077. even stock 3870 cant beat stock 3850! sweat.gif

so,i can conclude here that proc is the main culprit that bottleneck my gc. laugh.gif

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Oh I see. Your is 939 or AM2??
939 dual core quite expensive. Better change whole hardware smile.gif

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i try wif this setting: 700 / 860
and the result just :

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QUOTE(fesick @ Dec 20 2007, 11:09 PM)
i try wif this setting: 700 / 860
and the result just :

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why 3DMark06 didnt detect ur gc,proc,memory?? sweat.gif

ur core & memory clock? temp when running on those settings? brows.gif

nice score btw.. thumbup.gif
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cuz i disable the sys req. scan..
huhu..vista wont let me use 3dmark if it enable..
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cuz i disable the sys req. scan..
huhu..vista wont let me use 3dmark if it enable..
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im using vista too..no problem on that. wink.gif
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QUOTE(naz @ Dec 20 2007, 10:55 PM)
Im back from kampung and as promised,here is my SS for my OCed gc.

-pWs-, really nice score there even before gc. i think,its the proc that bottleneck my gc as -pWs- using 3850 with proc speed 3.2ghz,stock can score 9402. compared to noobianz,he's using 3870 with proc speed 2.7ghz,stock score only 9077. even stock 3870 cant beat stock 3850!  sweat.gif

so,i can conclude here that proc is the main culprit that bottleneck my gc.  laugh.gif

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That score already overclocked tongue.gif
Default speed is 89xx IIANM. wink.gif

QUOTE(naz @ Dec 20 2007, 11:20 PM)
are u sure that vista wont allow u to use 3DMark06 if u enable the sys req scan?  hmm.gif
im using vista too..no problem on that.  wink.gif
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Last time i also have to disable the sys req scan.
But after format, then ok already smile.gif

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i try wif this setting: 700 / 860
and the result just :
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What processor you use?? hmm.gif

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QUOTE(naz @ Dec 20 2007, 11:20 PM)
are u sure that vista wont allow u to use 3DMark06 if u enable the sys req scan?  hmm.gif
im using vista too..no problem on that.  wink.gif
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ya wor..dunno why..it will hang by itself..
anyway wif 700 / 860 setting my temp like crazy.. 65-70 +/- c
even after i incrse da fan speed..mm
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That score already overclocked tongue.gif
Default speed is 89xx IIANM.  wink.gif
Last time i also have to disable the sys req scan.
But after format, then ok already  smile.gif

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owh..i thought,its the stock setting. tongue.gif
but still,after u OC more,u can beat that 3870 OC.
very jealous with ur score. tongue.gif

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ya wor..dunno why..it will hang by itself..
anyway wif 700 / 860 setting my temp like crazy.. 65-70 +/- c
even after i incrse da fan speed..mm
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QUOTE(naz @ Dec 20 2007, 11:31 PM)
owh..i thought,its the stock setting.  tongue.gif
but still,after u OC more,u can beat that 3870 OC.
very jealous with ur score.  tongue.gif
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hurrmm,whats the speed of ur fan? mine if i set my fan at 60%, max temp is around 55C.
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Mine also 65C max. But w fan speed 75% laugh.gif

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PowerColor HD3850 256MB @ Stock
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PowerColor HD3850 256MB @ Core730 Memory1024
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Windows XP benchmark really higher than Windows Vista.
Nice score bro thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 21 2007, 01:50 AM)
hmm.gif
Windows XP benchmark really higher than Windows Vista.
Nice score bro thumbup.gif

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Oh I see. Your is 939 or AM2??
939 dual core quite expensive. Better change whole hardware smile.gif

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I don felt like using Vista at the moment, coz nothing special but onli pulling down ur gaming performance. As expected HD3850 & HD3870 still not enough to power DX10 graphics.
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Yea nod.gif nod.gif
But Vista really eye candy when u plug in DX10 card. Poison poison brows.gif

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939...that what im going to do...am2 4000+ will still bottleneck or not?  tongue.gif
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Go for the dark side whistling.gif whistling.gif

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QUOTE(MangKoK^ayon @ Dec 21 2007, 09:03 AM)
939...that what im going to do...am2 4000+ will still bottleneck or not?  tongue.gif
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Get the Spider Platform instead whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif , & btw good news catalyst 7.12 is out.

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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 21 2007, 08:06 AM)
Yea  nod.gif  nod.gif
But Vista really eye candy when u plug in DX10 card. Poison poison  brows.gif
Go for the dark side  whistling.gif  whistling.gif

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not quite eye catching also...tried already....just feel little bit 'heavy'...not worth it i think cool2.gif

downloading cat 712 now...ill give difference benchmark later (711 vs 712) biggrin.gif

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What the change log of this new driver?
Kinda lazy to install and uninstall the driver tongue.gif

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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 21 2007, 09:37 AM)
What the change log of this new driver?
Kinda lazy to install and uninstall the driver tongue.gif

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i did the benchmark....igonore the cpu score...bottleneck cry.gif

Cat 7.11:

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Wow...that a lot of difference.
Mayb i should upgrade to Cat 7.12 and break 10k score brows.gif

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Ok...but only can be done after 4pm.
Now working. sad.gif
Anyway, how many % fan speed for your card??

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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 21 2007, 09:30 AM)
Ok...but only can be done after 4pm.
Now working. sad.gif
Anyway, how many % fan speed for your card??

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I see.
My fan speed change w temperature level set by Rivatuner.
Idle: 48 Full: 65-67
Very scary sweat.gif

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i think thats normal...hehe...
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 21 2007, 09:27 AM)
Wow...that a lot of difference.
Mayb i should upgrade to Cat 7.12 and break 10k score brows.gif

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ehem ehem,lets try the new Cat 7.12. If big improvement,then i wanna OC my proc more so that my 3DMark06 score can be very near to -pWs- score. laugh.gif

btw,can only try it after 4pm. now working wink.gif


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i did the benchmark....igonore the cpu score...bottleneck  cry.gif

Cat 7.11:

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Cat 7.12
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there's the reason u should upgrade  tongue.gif
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dude,what's ur temp when play games with core & memory clock like that? hmm.gif (core 770 mem 1000)

is there any problem like artifacts or ur pc restart? i really would like to try to do that setting if there's no problem. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(naz @ Dec 21 2007, 10:08 AM)
ehem ehem,lets try the new Cat 7.12. If big improvement,then i wanna OC my proc more so that my 3DMark06 score can be very near to -pWs- score.  laugh.gif

btw,can only try it after 4pm. now working  wink.gif


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dude,what's ur temp when play games with core & memory clock like that?  hmm.gif  (core 770 mem 1000)

is there any problem like artifacts or ur pc restart? i really would like to try to do that setting if there's no problem.  biggrin.gif
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temp 60+ i think....as of now no problem....no stressing done yet...just about 1-2 hr gaming only smile.gif
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QUOTE(MangKoK^ayon @ Dec 21 2007, 10:15 AM)
temp 60+ i think....as of now no problem....no stressing done yet...just about 1-2 hr gaming only smile.gif
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alrite.later after u did the stress,do post here ur SS.hopefully there will be no problem with that setting. thumbup.gif

with that settings,u play games with all high setting rite? tried Crysis? no lag? hmm.gif
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I think 3850 gDDR3 can do 750/1000 easily. smile.gif

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haven't been playing crysis...no installer...nfsps and coh only smile.gif

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after using cat 7.12 and re-do my cable mangment..
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Nice score.
Btw, what processor you use? Getting 2.8k should be Intel platform right??

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yerp.. its intel 6550
but i Oc it

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a lot bugs being fixed including online games like SDO no more text problem.
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hey, when i OC the GPU to as high i can / a bit, i notice black spot and glitches

wat should i do to get rid of it? hmm.gif
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Lower down your overclock smile.gif

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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 21 2007, 04:34 PM)
Lower down your overclock smile.gif

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btw do you know the max OC  for sapphire HD3870 without side effect (black spot) ??
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Wow...My 3850 also got difference in benchmark after installed Cat 7.12 from Cat 7.11

Cat 7.11 : 8990

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Cat 7.12 : 9196 rclxm9.gif

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pWs, not letting go ur proc n mobo? smile.gif
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Not so soon bro. Wait for Phenom B3 first smile.gif
Why? You want to buy?? wink.gif

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Cat 7.12 doesnt make any significant improvement in my 3dmark06 score T_T

only increase aroun 9 marks >_>...btw,im using vista
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 21 2007, 05:42 PM)
Not so soon bro. Wait for Phenom B3 first smile.gif
Why? You want to buy?? wink.gif

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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 21 2007, 04:55 PM)
Wow...My 3850 also got difference in benchmark after installed Cat 7.12 from Cat 7.11

Cat 7.11 : 8990

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Cat 7.12 : 9196  rclxm9.gif

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nice score bro! rclxms.gif

but,that score is with stock setting...what if u OCed it? hmm.gif sure can reach 10k! brows.gif

now downloading the Cat 7.12. drool.gif
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My 3870@stock Cat7.12
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i hate my cpu!!

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QUOTE(noobianz @ Dec 21 2007, 08:28 PM)
My 3870@stock Cat7.12
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bro, we use same cpu, and i hate it too.... sweat.gif


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btw mind pm me wat did you do to OC your x2 to 2700 Ghz... smile.gif
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do u guys mean u are still bottlenecked even using X2 4000+?just thinking bout buying it...
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My SS for today. blush.gif

Using Catalyst 7.11 (after OC the card) score: 7783

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Using Catalyst 7.12

(before OC the card) score: 7904

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(after OC the card) score: 8142

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Btw,my stock setting when using Cat 7.12 did beaten my OCed setting in Cat 7.11. thumbup.gif

So,i think that im gonna push my proc more so that can get at least 9k score. laugh.gif


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do u guys mean u are still bottlenecked even using X2 4000+?just thinking bout buying it...
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if u use the stock speed (2.1ghz),then the answer is yes. sweat.gif

but if u OC the proc to at least 2.9ghz and above,then u can have a very good score in 3DMark06 brows.gif But then,its only the benchmark though. its up to u to feel the different when u play games. nod.gif

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QUOTE(naz @ Dec 21 2007, 10:20 PM)
My SS for today.  blush.gif

Using Catalyst 7.11 (after OC the card) score: 7783

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Using Catalyst 7.12

(before OC the card) score: 7904

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(after OC the card) score: 8142

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Btw,my stock setting when using Cat 7.12 did beaten my OCed setting in Cat 7.11.  thumbup.gif

So,i think that im gonna push my proc more so that can get at least 9k score.  laugh.gif


Added on December 21, 2007, 10:23 pm

if u use the stock speed (2.1ghz),then the answer is yes.  sweat.gif

but if u OC the proc to at least 2.9ghz and above,then u can have a very good score in 3DMark06  brows.gif  But then,its only the benchmark though. its up to u to feel the different when u play games.  nod.gif
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QUOTE(naz @ Dec 21 2007, 11:20 PM)
but if u OC the proc to at least 2.9ghz and above,then u can have a very good score in 3DMark06  brows.gif  But then,its only the benchmark though. its up to u to feel the different when u play games.  nod.gif
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Mr.I is C2D or Q are very OCable, u can push along with ur cards.
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QUOTE(MangKoK^ayon @ Dec 21 2007, 11:00 PM)
letting go yours?  rolleyes.gif
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hahaha...not this soon dude biggrin.gif

i've just bought it around 1 week together with my biostar mobo.

buy new one laa..proc only rm210,biostar mobo rm255. brows.gif


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Mr.I is C2D or Q are very OCable, u can push along with ur cards.
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QUOTE(naz @ Dec 22 2007, 12:45 AM)
hahaha...not this soon dude  biggrin.gif

i've just bought it around 1 week together with my biostar mobo.

buy new one laa..proc only rm210,biostar mobo rm255.  brows.gif


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errr,mine to explain what did u wanna say? quite confused ur sentence.  sweat.gif
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Core 2 Duo or Core Quad is more powerful, u can do better socres with it. sorry wrongly type.
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QUOTE(zeustronic @ Dec 21 2007, 11:52 PM)
Core 2 Duo or Core Quad is more powerful, u can do better socres with it. sorry wrongly type.
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owhh...ok,thanks for the xplanation & info.

btw,im still happy with my OC setting for the gc. so far,can play Crysis with no problem rclxms.gif so,i think that im gonna stop this OC things both for my gc & proc and concentrate on playing games..especially when holiday season is coming! thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(MangKoK^ayon @ Dec 21 2007, 06:33 PM)
yeah...if u want to sell smile.gif
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Oh. So far still satisfy w my current rig. smile.gif

QUOTE(naz @ Dec 21 2007, 06:38 PM)
nice score bro!  rclxms.gif

but,that score is with stock setting...what if u OCed it?  hmm.gif sure can reach 10k!  brows.gif

now downloading the Cat 7.12.  drool.gif
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How can irenic OC

its Sapphire HD 3870 to @ 891/1314 ???

i can go that far for GPU clock is 862.....

i wonder if he got glitches? coz mine only at 862 got glitches.....

hmm.gif hmm.gif hmm.gif

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QUOTE(syazwanreno @ Dec 22 2007, 09:41 AM)
How can irenic OC

its Sapphire HD 3870 to @ 891/1314 ???

i can go that far for GPU clock is 862.....

i wonder if he got glitches? coz mine only at 862 got glitches.....

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i think he already flashed bios
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if that is the case maybe need better cooling smile.gif
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QUOTE(syazwanreno @ Dec 22 2007, 09:41 AM)
How can irenic OC

its Sapphire HD 3870 to @ 891/1314 ???

i can go that far for GPU clock is 862.....

i wonder if he got glitches? coz mine only at 862 got glitches.....

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it's a bug..u need to do bios update for that
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wat bios?

mobo bios?

or other?
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Graphic card bios he meant smile.gif

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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 22 2007, 10:48 AM)
Graphic card bios he meant smile.gif

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graphic also have bios? rclxub.gif

not CCC?
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QUOTE(syazwanreno @ Dec 22 2007, 12:36 PM)
graphic also have bios?  rclxub.gif

not CCC?
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Yea...Gc do have bios. smile.gif
Mayb you need to flash to modded bios in order to solve your problem as noobianz said.

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anyone can upload their original 3850 256mb bios? thanks smile.gif
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new 3850 user here ^^...i got something i want to ask..y i cannot use ati tool?

os - vista ultimate
gcard - 3850 256mb

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QUOTE(dj.eRicZzz @ Dec 22 2007, 05:48 PM)
new 3850 user here ^^...i got something i want to ask..y i cannot use ati tool?

os - vista ultimate
gcard - 3850 256mb
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can..but must use latest version...0.27b3
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QUOTE(MangKoK^ayon @ Dec 22 2007, 06:16 PM)
can..but must use latest version...0.27b3
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hmm can i know where to download it...i search all only found old version
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 22 2007, 12:39 PM)
Yea...Gc do have bios. smile.gif
Mayb you need to flash to modded bios in order to solve your problem as noobianz said.

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how to update GC bios and where to find it?
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QUOTE(MangKoK^ayon @ Dec 22 2007, 04:51 PM)
anyone can upload their original 3850 256mb bios? thanks smile.gif
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r u looking for this? shud be the same right


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QUOTE(syazwanreno @ Dec 22 2007, 07:21 PM)
how to update GC bios and where to find it?
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im not sure those card already got new bios,but mod bios got la..
try refer at page 7-8 of this thread..someone ady mention bout this

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http://www.techpowerup.com/wizzard/ATITool_0.27b3.exe

link for atitool 0.27b3 smile.gif
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QUOTE(MangKoK^ayon @ Dec 22 2007, 07:57 PM)
thank you very much smile.gif
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At last break 10k 3dMark06 rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif

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hmmm i have some problems ocing my gcard...even 1 mhx will have problem...do i need to flash bios or what
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QUOTE(dj.eRicZzz @ Dec 23 2007, 12:21 AM)
hmmm i have some problems ocing my gcard...even 1 mhx will have problem...do i need to flash bios or what
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What software you use to oc?? CCC or Rivatuner?
Try CCC and see smile.gif

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what is ccc?? google nothin come out =.=..using ati tool..canot one ah?? anyways i'm downloadiing riva tuner
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CCC = Catalyst Control Center tongue.gif
I never use ATI Tools and Riva Tuner to oc.
But use Rivatuner to control fan speed. rclxm9.gif

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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 23 2007, 12:19 AM)
At last break 10k 3dMark06  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif

Mark: 10266
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CPU: 3315MHz
GPU: 769/1044

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Was following your progress for some time. Congrats man! smile.gif
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Long time no see bro. How ya?
Thanks.
So what your toys recently?

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-pWs- give me ya card... me benchmark sure higher that u =P
clock higher gain more... =P
nice to see so many support ati card =)

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Haha...you go buy one la.
Nice price/performance ratio card.
Can be overclocked nearly to 3870 rclxms.gif

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Free find me chat ba. Let stop the conversation here smile.gif

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oh ya..i have a problem..i cant open 3dmark06 =x
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QUOTE(dj.eRicZzz @ Dec 23 2007, 01:11 AM)
oh ya..i have a problem..i cant open 3dmark06 =x
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same with my problem last time.
u have to download the 3dmark hot fix.
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QUOTE(dj.eRicZzz @ Dec 23 2007, 01:11 AM)
oh ya..i have a problem..i cant open 3dmark06 =x
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There is update fix for 3dmark
http://www.futuremark.com/download/hotfix_oct07

else u can edit the shortcut
"C:\Program Files\Futuremark\3DMark06\3DMark06.exe" -nosysteminfo

Hope this help
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http://www.futuremark.com/download/hotfix_...7_installer.exe
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QUOTE(zhen^wei @ Dec 23 2007, 01:17 AM)
same with my problem last time.
u have to download the 3dmark hot fix.
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done..thx..
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ASUS HD 3870 user reporting in smile.gif biggrin.gif

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any suggestion? best driver for ATI now?

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ATI Catalyst just release 7.12 recently... u should use it
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thanks for the hotfix guys..
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hmm...why i got so many problems ah...while running 3dmark...suddently screen blank n got error..say driver what what...stop responding
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is this good??? xD


i change the catalyst then no more that problem


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Nice result. What your overclock speed for you card??

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whoever wants to let go teir x2 tell me smile.gif
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@MangKoK^ayon- gonna let go my X2 soon

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From dj.eRicZzz result, it is kinda weird to have so high SM3.0 score. hmm.gif hmm.gif
Even more than 3870 stock speed. sweat.gif

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Bios / OC hotfix (strictly for 3870 only)
HD3870_PLLVCO_v010.071.zip ( 64.12k ) Number of downloads: 45

wat it fix ? is it needed to flash into my HIS HD3870 ?
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QUOTE(zhen^wei @ Dec 23 2007, 11:52 AM)
Bios / OC hotfix (strictly for 3870 only)
  HD3870_PLLVCO_v010.071.zip ( 64.12k ) Number of downloads: 45

wat it fix ? is it needed to flash into my HIS HD3870 ?
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fix the clock limit at 862 (core) i think
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 23 2007, 12:19 AM)
At last break 10k 3dMark06  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif

Mark: 10266
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CPU: 3315MHz
GPU: 769/1044

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owh yeahh..congrats bro! at last,u did reached ur target! rclxms.gif dun wanna go higher for memory clock? brows.gif

QUOTE(dj.eRicZzz @ Dec 23 2007, 02:56 AM)
is this good??? xD
i change the catalyst then no more that problem
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thats not good...thats very good for 3850 card..plus,its ur first try with that card. thumbup.gif

mr. -pWs- tried so many times only can get that 10k score... sweat.gif

btw, dj.eRicZzz mind to share ur core & mem clock settings? icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(naz @ Dec 23 2007, 12:24 PM)
owh yeahh..congrats bro! at last,u did reached ur target!  rclxms.gif dun wanna go higher for memory clock?  brows.gif
thats not good...thats very good for 3850 card..plus,its ur first try with that card.  thumbup.gif
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Artifact when 1100 I guess sad.gif
Cannot go far for memory I think.
Core speed still can go. wink.gif

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core is the important one...test ur max limit smile.gif
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 23 2007, 12:28 PM)
Artifact when 1100 I guess sad.gif
Cannot go far for memory I think.
Core speed still can go.  wink.gif

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ic. how far can u go for core clock? i thought with 770 core,is the highest..did u flash ur bios? because u said can go higher rite.. biggrin.gif


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core is the important one...test ur max limit smile.gif
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if flash BIOS, how far can we go for core clock? have u tried? brows.gif

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QUOTE(naz @ Dec 23 2007, 12:31 PM)
ic. how far can u go for core clock? i thought with 770 core,is the highest..did u flash ur bios? because u said can go higher rite..  biggrin.gif


Added on December 23, 2007, 12:31 pm

if flash BIOS, how far can we go for core clock? have u tried?  brows.gif
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well i tried the bios 7701000a...so core can go up to 770 and 100 mem...maybe more...haven't try yet
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QUOTE(MangKoK^ayon @ Dec 23 2007, 12:30 PM)
core is the important one...test ur max limit smile.gif
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Will try when i free. Now still working sweat.gif doh.gif

QUOTE(naz @ Dec 23 2007, 12:31 PM)
ic. how far can u go for core clock? i thought with 770 core,is the highest..did u flash ur bios? because u said can go higher rite..  biggrin.gif


Added on December 23, 2007, 12:31 pm

if flash BIOS, how far can we go for core clock? have u tried?  brows.gif
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Rivatuner can go more than 770 brows.gif

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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 23 2007, 01:11 PM)
Will try when i free. Now still working  sweat.gif  doh.gif
Rivatuner can go more than 770 brows.gif

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ok, bro pws like to volunteer rclxms.gif
just wait for his results tongue.gif
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QUOTE(MangKoK^ayon @ Dec 23 2007, 01:13 PM)
ok, bro pws like to volunteer  rclxms.gif
just wait for his results  tongue.gif
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Waaa... sweat.gif sweat.gif
Force people one ooo whistling.gif whistling.gif icon_rolleyes.gif
Will try it later and give you guys know smile.gif

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haha, spam 1 post here
i will get 3850 soon... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(dblooi @ Dec 23 2007, 01:29 PM)
haha, spam 1 post here
i will get 3850 soon... laugh.gif
you guys wait me..... 4 months later brows.gif
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buy today la biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 23 2007, 08:58 AM)
From dj.eRicZzz result, it is kinda weird to have so high SM3.0 score.  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
Even more than 3870 stock speed.  sweat.gif 

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maybe he either clocks his core or memory higher, but for NV 8series got 3 type Core, Memory & Shaders clocks.
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QUOTE(zeustronic @ Dec 23 2007, 01:46 PM)
maybe he either clocks his core or memory higher, but for NV 8series got 3 type Core, Memory & Shaders clocks.
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He is using Sapphire 3850 wor smile.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

P/S: Misunderstood. Maybe too. Need him to confirm w us

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Anybody use the flash bios OC for Saphire 3870?
Im having error at 860/1250. Anybody faced this issue?


i can only achive this benchmark with my specs. so disappointed.
any sifu can advised?

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=Atta...=post&id=364840

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why i play Games (BF2142) at 850/1300

then after awhile (2 rounds) the screen got 'belang2' (and /hang)


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QUOTE(DevilMan @ Dec 23 2007, 02:27 PM)
Anybody use the flash bios OC for Saphire 3870?
Im having error at 860/1250. Anybody faced this issue?
i can only achive this benchmark with my specs. so disappointed.
any sifu can advised?

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=Atta...=post&id=364840
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u need the unlocked bios...search from above post...i posted somewhere smile.gif
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QUOTE(MangKoK^ayon @ Dec 23 2007, 03:36 PM)
u need the unlocked bios...search from above post...i posted somewhere smile.gif
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done. still the same doh.gif
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QUOTE(DevilMan @ Dec 23 2007, 03:40 PM)
done. still the same  doh.gif
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how bout the temperatures? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 23 2007, 05:24 AM)
Nice result. What your overclock speed for you card??

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770, 1117

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Waa... so high for Memory Speed.
Flash bios???

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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 23 2007, 04:19 PM)
Waa... so high for Memory Speed.
Flash bios???

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er sorry type wrong....760, 1104


Added on December 23, 2007, 4:22 pmnow using 765, 1114


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haha, spam 1 post here
i will get 3850 soon... laugh.gif
you guys wait me..... 4 months later brows.gif
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buy from the guy i buy from la...he can give me cheap price for 2nd unit =D

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Do you flash bios or just oc using 3rd party software??

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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 23 2007, 04:46 PM)
Do you flash bios or just oc using 3rd party software??

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blink.gif i din do anything..install the newest catalyst then oc oni...what also din change
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QUOTE(dj.eRicZzz @ Dec 23 2007, 04:47 PM)
blink.gif  i din do anything..install the newest catalyst then oc oni...what also din change
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Oh I see.
You have a nice card there. My card artifact when 1100 memory speed. laugh.gif

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mine got temp problem only..quite hot
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How hot?? hmm.gif

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lol..im stuck at this setting
hope -pWs- can do higher than this

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The last result was my best already.
Anything higher than that causing artifacts sad.gif

Does flashing soft mod the voltage?? hmm.gif

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QUOTE(MangKoK^ayon @ Dec 23 2007, 04:11 PM)
how bout the temperatures?  hmm.gif
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before flash 80+c. after its 60+ load.


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mine got temp problem only..quite hot
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load the oc fix bios.

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QUOTE(DevilMan @ Dec 23 2007, 07:39 PM)
before flash 80+c. after its 60+ load.


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load the oc fix bios.
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load oc fix bios?
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QUOTE(dj.eRicZzz @ Dec 24 2007, 12:04 AM)
load oc fix bios?
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Bios / OC hotfix (strictly for 3870 only)
Attached File HD3870_PLLVCO_v010.071.zip ( 64.12k ) Number of downloads: 49
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I think dj.eRicZzz is using 3850. smile.gif
So this bios should be not workable for him.

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QUOTE(DevilMan @ Dec 24 2007, 12:47 AM)
Bios / OC hotfix (strictly for 3870 only)
Attached File  HD3870_PLLVCO_v010.071.zip ( 64.12k ) Number of downloads: 49
from front topic.
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if i use this bios, will i void the warranty?
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Probably yes. But if you manage to flash to default bios should be fine.
Hehe. I might be wrong too. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(syazwanreno @ Dec 24 2007, 07:49 AM)
if i use this bios, will i void the warranty?
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Save the original bios. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(syazwanreno @ Dec 23 2007, 03:14 PM)
why i play Games (BF2142) at 850/1300

then after awhile (2 rounds) the screen got 'belang2' (and /hang)
why?  hmm.gif
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belang2 means artifacts, maybe its reach maximum temperature before hang,
psu also one of de factor, after 1st /2nd round (when u see ur b2142 stats (which is in 2D mode), gc automatically set lower clock (300mhz), n then u enter da game again for 3rd round, it set back to 830mhz, so ur psu not power enough to hold da voltage when the GC change the core clock.

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QUOTE(ryugan @ Dec 24 2007, 11:18 AM)
belang2 means artifacts, maybe its reach maximum temperature before hang,
psu also one of de factor, after 1st /2nd round (when u see ur b2142 stats (which is in 2D mode), gc automatically set lower clock (300mhz), n then u enter da game again for 3rd round, it set back to 830mhz, so ur psu not power enough to hold da voltage when the GC change the core clock.

get better psu, n better airflow
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I can push my OC higher than 820, my PSU not enough power meh?
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 24 2007, 02:11 AM)
I think dj.eRicZzz is using 3850. smile.gif
So this bios should be not workable for him.

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QUOTE(DevilMan @ Dec 24 2007, 08:27 AM)
Save the original bios.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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can anyone teach me how to do the bios thingy?

i already have ATI FLASH and the LATEST BIOS

can n1 teach me

1) backup old bios

2) apply new bios

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QUOTE(ryugan @ Dec 24 2007, 11:18 AM)
belang2 means artifacts, maybe its reach maximum temperature before hang,
psu also one of de factor, after 1st /2nd round (when u see ur b2142 stats (which is in 2D mode), gc automatically set lower clock (300mhz), n then u enter da game again for 3rd round, it set back to 830mhz, so ur psu not power enough to hold da voltage when the GC change the core clock.

get better psu, n better airflow
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I'm using acbel E2 510 cannot also ka?

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QUOTE(syazwanreno @ Dec 24 2007, 02:50 PM)
can anyone teach me how to do the bios thingy?

i already have ATI FLASH and the LATEST BIOS

can n1 teach me

1) backup old bios

2) apply new bios

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I'm using acbel E2 510 cannot also ka?
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should be okie. run the winflash software.
click save and name the bios and location.

then load/locate file for the new bios and click program.

restart the pc.
done.
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dude you need more than 750w PSU only can OC over the limit hahaha brows.gif

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QUOTE(DevilMan @ Dec 24 2007, 03:08 PM)
should be okie. run the winflash software.
click save and name the bios and location.

then load/locate file for the new bios and click program.

restart the pc.
done.
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Oh...you successfully flash the bios using ATIWinflash??
I cannot flash using it. Not sure why cry.gif

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QUOTE(skylinegtr34rule4life @ Dec 24 2007, 03:32 PM)
dude you need more than 750w PSU only can OC over the limit hahaha brows.gif
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maybe. doh.gif

QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 24 2007, 03:52 PM)
Oh...you successfully flash the bios using ATIWinflash??
I cannot flash using it. Not sure why  cry.gif

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Your using Winflash 2.0.0.2???
I flash mine so many time. No issue at all. shocking.gif
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QUOTE(skylinegtr34rule4life @ Dec 24 2007, 03:32 PM)
dude you need more than 750w PSU only can OC over the limit hahaha brows.gif
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lol
no need too high rated PSU what...moreover with the lower consumption for 3850/3870, suppose 500watt is enough to CF both card.. brows.gif
Guys, hows 3850 performs compared to 2900pro?? saw review 2900pro can beat 8800gts G80. but not sure about 3850..
lowyat selling at rm580++ for 3850... drool.gif
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QUOTE(syazwanreno @ Dec 24 2007, 02:50 PM)
can anyone teach me how to do the bios thingy?

i already have ATI FLASH and the LATEST BIOS

can n1 teach me

1) backup old bios

2) apply new bios

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I'm using acbel E2 510 cannot also ka?
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ic, i got bad experience with Acbel. blush.gif
maybe ur psu ok, not mine
maybe urs overheat only kot..
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QUOTE(DevilMan @ Dec 24 2007, 05:39 PM)
maybe.  doh.gif
Your using Winflash 2.0.0.2???
I flash mine so many time. No issue at all.  shocking.gif
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Oh... I got issue sad.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif

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Ya... W. Vista.
It might be W.Vista problem. Never think of that. hmm.gif

If flashed, will the clock speed fall to idle mode when idle? I want to know this. If can, I might flash it smile.gif

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hmm...just wondering, 3850 can beat 8800 ah
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New version 8800GT totally pawn 3850 laugh.gif

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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 24 2007, 06:34 PM)
New version 8800GT totally pawn 3850 laugh.gif

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if oc 3850 with stock 8800 leh?/ flex.gif flex.gif
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Errmm....3850 still lose.
But comparison between 3850 oc and 8800gt is a bit not fair I think since NVidia has more oc space smile.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

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does cat 7.12 give any significant improvement for 3870/3850 crossfire in crysis?
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Wow...you wan CF??

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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 24 2007, 06:52 PM)
Errmm....3850 still lose.
But comparison between 3850 oc and 8800gt is a bit not fair I think since NVidia has more oc space smile.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

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hmmm..then 3850 can compare with what gc? i mean like same performance...both without oc
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QUOTE(dj.eRicZzz @ Dec 24 2007, 10:26 PM)
hmmm..then 3850 can compare with what gc? i mean like same performance...both without oc
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Ermmm...hard to compare ar tongue.gif
But I very satisfy w my 3850 already smile.gif
So dun wan to compare w Nvidia.

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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 24 2007, 10:29 PM)
Ermmm...hard to compare ar tongue.gif
But I very satisfy w my 3850 already smile.gif
So dun wan to compare w Nvidia.

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yea yea...me too,another satisfied 3850 user! thumbup.gif

no need compare which gc is same performance with 3850/3870. if ur instinct tells u that buy ATI gc,then go buy ATI lorr biggrin.gif ...else,if u feels like wanna use nvidia,then buy nvidia...if not satisfied,then later can change to another gc maa... laugh.gif


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QUOTE(naz @ Dec 24 2007, 10:36 PM)
yea yea...me too,another satisfied 3850 user!  thumbup.gif

no need compare which gc is same performance with 3850/3870. if ur instinct tells u that buy ATI gc,then go buy ATI lorr  biggrin.gif ...else,if u feels like wanna use nvidia,then buy nvidia...if not satisfied,then later can change to another gc maa... laugh.gif
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hahaha..but i'm also very satisfied with this card...
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QUOTE(dj.eRicZzz @ Dec 24 2007, 10:39 PM)
hahaha..but i'm also very satisfied with this card...
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haha..then,enjoy the card to the max. rclxms.gif if wanna get more satisfied,then buy other gc cooler and then OC kaw-kaw.. brows.gif

so far,i OCed my gc till 700/1000. good enough for almost every games. so,no need to push more..enjoy it first. later,if more powerful game come out,then only considering another high-end card. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(naz @ Dec 24 2007, 10:51 PM)
haha..then,enjoy the card to the max. rclxms.gif  if wanna get more satisfied,then buy other gc cooler and then OC kaw-kaw..  brows.gif

so far,i OCed my gc till 700/1000. good enough for almost every games. so,no need to push more..enjoy it first. later,if more powerful game come out,then only considering another high-end card.  thumbup.gif
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i think i will use this card for 10 yrs =(
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QUOTE(naz @ Dec 24 2007, 10:51 PM)
haha..then,enjoy the card to the max. rclxms.gif  if wanna get more satisfied,then buy other gc cooler and then OC kaw-kaw..  brows.gif

so far,i OCed my gc till 700/1000. good enough for almost every games. so,no need to push more..enjoy it first. later,if more powerful game come out,then only considering another high-end card.  thumbup.gif
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By flashing or CCC? smile.gif

QUOTE(dj.eRicZzz @ Dec 24 2007, 10:57 PM)
i think i will use this card for 10 yrs =(
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Oh ...Confirm or not?? whistling.gif

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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 24 2007, 11:00 PM)
By flashing or CCC?  smile.gif
Oh ...Confirm or not??  whistling.gif

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coz hor...i very seldom upgrade gc...this time also budget 400..but let dblooi poison till fork out extra 200...to buy this
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QUOTE(dj.eRicZzz @ Dec 24 2007, 11:02 PM)
coz hor...i very seldom upgrade gc...this time also budget 400..but let dblooi poison till fork out extra 200...to buy this
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Oh I see.
I also kena him poisoned b4. Fork out 400+ to buy Crucial 10th.
We should entitled him "Poison King" laugh.gif

So how your oc? What highest speed you attain?

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QUOTE(dj.eRicZzz @ Dec 24 2007, 10:26 PM)
hmmm..then 3850 can compare with what gc? i mean like same performance...both without oc
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3850 can only fight against 2900pro laugh.gif

3870 is the real player 2 fight against 8800gt bruce.gif
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QUOTE(dj.eRicZzz @ Dec 24 2007, 11:02 PM)
coz hor...i very seldom upgrade gc...this time also budget 400..but let dblooi poison till fork out extra 200...to buy this
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two fellas gossiping me here cry.gif cry.gif
bro djericzzz... actually is bro pws try to poison me with this gc one..
i just copy and paste what he said and give it to you brows.gif


cut the crap

anyone are using the enhanced version of 3850 from HIS?
it looks good~! Wondering how it performs brows.gif

link: http://www.hkepc.com/?id=528
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 24 2007, 11:00 PM)
By flashing or CCC?  smile.gif
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by using software given by Asus named Asus SmartDoctor. thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(naz @ Dec 25 2007, 02:55 AM)
by using software given by Asus named Asus SmartDoctor.  thumbup.gif
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Oh I see. Then I only left one choice to oc sad.gif doh.gif

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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 25 2007, 11:15 AM)
Oh I see. Then I only left one choice to oc sad.gif doh.gif

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still have other choice...buy Asus 3850. brows.gif laugh.gif

later can CF ur gc. drool.gif
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Cannot la... Save money for oncoming Phenom B3 sweat.gif
Somemore i seldom game. Waste if i go CF laugh.gif

How high you can go w your card??? hmm.gif

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i already flash bios but it was bad exp for me...... sweat.gif

use default bios now ...... biggrin.gif
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What happen? Flash failed??

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i using the moded flash 830/1200. not bad. really improve a lot.
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 25 2007, 02:57 PM)
Cannot la... Save money for oncoming Phenom B3 sweat.gif
Somemore i seldom game. Waste if i go CF laugh.gif

How high you can go w your card??? hmm.gif

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nvrmind lor..later buy 3870 for Phenom rig. brows.gif

so far, 700/1000 is my highest. maybe can go further,but too afraid to try. sweat.gif im satisfied with the settings when play games. so no need to push further i think. biggrin.gif


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i using the moded flash 830/1200. not bad. really improve a lot.
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u use 3850 or 3870 with that settings? hmm.gif wonder if u use that setting for 3850.. biggrin.gif

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i use 3870.
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my 3870 cf now just laying inside my casing coz i dun have proc to use.. feel kinda waste got 2 gpu but no cpu laugh.gif
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QUOTE(irenic @ Dec 26 2007, 01:36 AM)
my 3870 cf now just laying inside my casing coz i dun have proc to use.. feel kinda waste got 2 gpu but no cpu laugh.gif
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don't worry bro... i got 1 4ghz Q6600 reserved 4 u thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 25 2007, 08:37 PM)
What happen? Flash failed??

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it's not failed but the color on my screen changed.... and got stripes when i want to change resolution ohmy.gif
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Oh....artifacts I think.
Use stock better la... tongue.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

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play with core first..
if got line, square becoz of oc the ram later more problem..
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Dec 26 2007, 12:31 PM)
play with core first..
if got line, square becoz of oc the ram later more problem..
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just want confirmation...plz answer with honesty...which one is better to buy...3870 or 8800gt smile.gif
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QUOTE(jimmydotnet @ Dec 26 2007, 06:33 PM)
just want confirmation...plz answer with honesty...which one is better to buy...3870 or 8800gt  smile.gif
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i dun get what u mean,each card got pro n contra but both good GC,
but for me i love ATI display than nVidia

from my xp
First Person Shooter, (COD4/Battlefield 2)
when sniping
1st, long distance view rendering, ATI rendering stil sharp
nVidia oledi 'blurred' @ long distance view (thats y nvidia 'gain' more FPS from there) bcoz less texture rendering

Racing/Sim
3D modeling, fence modeling n texture ATI stil sharp @ long distance (but lower FPS than 8800gt)
while nvidia 'filtered' da texture (FPS? bit higher than 8800gt)

last time
i try NFSMost wanted (FPS doesn't matter la rite now, both smooth)
im using 8800gts n my bro (sniper69) using 2900xt
honestly ATI graphic far more cun la bro blush.gif

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QUOTE(ryugan @ Dec 26 2007, 08:19 PM)
i dun get what u mean,each card got pro n contra but both good GC,
but for me i love ATI display than nVidia

from my xp
First Person Shooter, (COD4/Battlefield 2)
when sniping
1st, long distance view rendering, ATI rendering stil sharp
nVidia oledi 'blurred' @ long distance view (thats y nvidia 'gain' more FPS from there) bcoz less texture rendering

Racing/Sim
3D modeling, fence modeling n texture ATI stil sharp @ long distance (but lower FPS than 8800gt)
while nvidia 'filtered' da texture (FPS? bit higher than 8800gt)

last time
i try NFSMost wanted (FPS doesn't matter la rite now, both smooth)
im using 8800gts n my bro (sniper69) using 2900xt
honestly ATI graphic far more cun la bro blush.gif
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My brother use 8800GT and 3870. Now me and him using 3870. Ati rocks man.
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IMHO, not only the in game GFX, but the overall colour quality as well. My previous card was HD2600XT CF, use that for a month and then switched to GTS. The first thing i noticed when my rig booted up, the colour was not as vivid as HD2600.
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thank god i've never used nvidia...apart from gf4 smile.gif

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QUOTE(MangKoK^ayon @ Dec 26 2007, 10:06 PM)
thank god i've never used nvidia...apart from gf4 smile.gif

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Only get 10228 with OC of 830/1200. sweat.gif


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Kinda low for your result. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 26 2007, 11:12 PM)
Kinda low for your result. hmm.gif
Oc more of your processor and bench again smile.gif

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mine blush.gif

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kinda low too, izzit? hmm.gif

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QUOTE(ryugan @ Dec 26 2007, 11:24 PM)
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kinda low too, izzit? hmm.gif
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Yours is Saphire dude? can go to 860/1250 at that temp?
What bios are you using? I cant go higher than 830/1200 cause not stable at all. doh.gif
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Dec 26 2007, 11:27 PM)
Yours ok I think wink.gif

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Is up to you since yours is black edition right??? smile.gif

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I dont dare to push vcore at more than 1.433.
Maybe to try to play around tomorrow again.
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QUOTE(DevilMan @ Dec 26 2007, 11:27 PM)
Yours is Saphire dude? can go to 860/1250 at that temp?
What bios are you using? I cant go higher than 830/1200 cause not stable at all.  doh.gif
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mine ASUS HD3870 blush.gif
i bought dis brand bcoz all of my fren playing COH n then racun me to buy that game
the worse COH game got no stock @ tsb ..all Back to back order cry.gif
i saw ASUS bundle with this game, so i bought this brand lo blush.gif
if not, i just buy saphire oni

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QUOTE(ryugan @ Dec 26 2007, 11:33 PM)
mine ASUS HD3870 blush.gif
i bought dis brand bcoz all of my fren playing COH n then racun me to buy that game
the worse COH game got no stock @ tsb ..all Back to back order cry.gif
i saw ASUS bundle with this game, so i bought this brand lo blush.gif
if not, i just buy saphire omi
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QUOTE(DevilMan @ Dec 26 2007, 11:38 PM)
Wanted to buy asus before as well but Saphire is cheaper. Now feel a bit regret.  shakehead.gif
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no need to regret la, Sapphire ok what?
maybe ur cpu bottleneck , but ur AMD proc can oc kaw kaw mah, must try nod.gif
bought rm900 @ cycom,,,now rm870 sweat.gif
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QUOTE(ryugan @ Dec 26 2007, 11:42 PM)
no need to regret la, Sapphire ok what?
maybe ur cpu bottleneck , but ur AMD proc can oc kaw kaw mah, must try  nod.gif
bought rm900 @ cycom,,,now rm870 sweat.gif
COH:Opposing front around rm169 i think
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QUOTE(DevilMan @ Dec 26 2007, 11:31 PM)
Yep Black Edition. Asking suggestion from sifu ma.
I dont dare to push vcore at more than 1.433.
Maybe to try to play around tomorrow again.
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QUOTE(kuanhon @ Dec 27 2007, 01:36 PM)
just got myself GeCube 3850 512MB OC Edition and this is what i've got, 735/950

by the way, the score is 9941 for everything stock (2.66Ghz, 725/900)

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QUOTE(syazwanreno @ Dec 27 2007, 03:32 PM)
i envy for the proc you guys have  unsure.gif
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QUOTE(syazwanreno @ Dec 27 2007, 03:32 PM)
i envy for the proc you guys have  unsure.gif
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QUOTE(DevilMan @ Dec 27 2007, 09:21 PM)
Me too, cant wait for my Phenom 9900 B3.  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
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whats wrong with your proc?
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bottlenecks sweat.gif

high-end GC partner with near low-end proc sad.gif

my 3DMark06 never reach 10k

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perhaps they may be score difference but in real gaming you cant really notice the difference unless your proc is way old
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bottlenecks  sweat.gif

high-end GC partner with near low-end proc  sad.gif

my 3DMark06 never reach 10k
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QUOTE(syazwanreno @ Dec 27 2007, 09:44 PM)
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high-end GC partner with near low-end proc  sad.gif

my 3DMark06 never reach 10k
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QUOTE(bata @ Dec 28 2007, 01:47 AM)
yeahh...no money buy 512mb blush.gif
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just bought X2 4000 yesterday...is 40+ idle temperature normal? cry.gif

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QUOTE(MangKoK^ayon @ Dec 28 2007, 07:57 AM)
come2...try oc first smile.gif

just bought X2 4000 yesterday...is 40+ idle temperature normal?  cry.gif
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You can proceed to AM2/AM2+ Thread and join us there.
AMD(R) Socket-AM2/AM2+ Overclocking thread: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/593017

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i waana ask here..8800gt is better than ATi Radeon HD 3870?
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i had try the HD3870 compare with my zotac 8800GT amp!.
it's better than 8800gt in 3dmark05. (but the HD3870 using the modded firmware 820/1200 la)
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where can i get the firmware for HD3870??
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I checked the modded bios page that contains several speed for 3870. Not sure what brand of 3870 can flash and used properly for 875/1250?


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QUOTE(ahsiah @ Dec 29 2007, 07:58 AM)
I checked the modded bios page that contains several speed for 3870. Not sure what brand of 3870 can flash and used properly for 875/1250?
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QUOTE(zhen^wei @ Dec 28 2007, 07:57 PM)
i had try the HD3870 compare with my zotac 8800GT amp!.
it's better than 8800gt in 3dmark05.  (but the HD3870 using the modded firmware 820/1200 la)
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yes. 8800gt have more potential to do better OC.
but i don like the high temperature..hehe
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Ati HD3870 VGPU pencil mod (from Xtremesystems forums)

Just use a 2B pencil to lower the resistance on the marked blue resistor
from 1.62kOhm to around 1KOhm

My HD3870 stock vgpu = 1.33v (3d) after pencil mod vgpu went up to 1.415v



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Is it the same as 3850??? hmm.gif

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QUOTE(rlhc17 @ Dec 30 2007, 06:50 AM)
Ati HD3870 VGPU pencil mod (from Xtremesystems forums)

Just use a 2B pencil to lower the resistance on the marked blue resistor
from 1.62kOhm to around 1KOhm

My HD3870 stock vgpu = 1.33v (3d) after pencil mod vgpu went up to 1.415v
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how bout the temperatures?
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[quote=-pWs-,Dec 30 2007, 07:15 AM]
Is it the same as 3850??? hmm.gif

yup,same

[quote=MangKoK^ayon,Dec 30 2007, 11:05 AM]
how bout the temperatures?
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load went up from 52c to 58c on stock cooler running full speed

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means i can pencil mod my 3850 also?


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Ati HD3870 VGPU pencil mod (from Xtremesystems forums)

Just use a 2B pencil to lower the resistance on the marked blue resistor
from 1.62kOhm to around 1KOhm

My HD3870 stock vgpu = 1.33v (3d) after pencil mod vgpu went up to 1.415v
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eh i dun understand la

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pencil mod is just pelan pelan shade kan ?
need the digital meter measure tool right ?
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QUOTE(dj.eRicZzz @ Dec 30 2007, 01:44 PM)
means i can pencil mod my 3850 also?


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eh i dun understand la
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anyone to try? flashing to a different modded bios also can mod vgpu smile.gif
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Wahahaha...I dun dare to flash le laugh.gif
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QUOTE(rlhc17 @ Dec 30 2007, 06:50 AM)
Ati HD3870 VGPU pencil mod (from Xtremesystems forums)

Just use a 2B pencil to lower the resistance on the marked blue resistor
from 1.62kOhm to around 1KOhm

My HD3870 stock vgpu = 1.33v (3d) after pencil mod vgpu went up to 1.415v
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rlhc17, can we clean the mod back to stock after modding?
how?
gonna try it at company, got multimeter there rclxms.gif
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rlhc17, can we clean the mod back to stock after modding?
how?
gonna try it at company, got multimeter there  rclxms.gif
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rlhc17, can we clean the mod back to stock after modding?
how?
gonna try it at company, got multimeter there  rclxms.gif
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just use a bit of alcohol to clean it up drool.gif
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QUOTE(rlhc17 @ Dec 30 2007, 09:38 PM)
just use a bit of alcohol to clean it up drool.gif
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need to run the card to check the resistance after modding?
where are the points to check resistance in your picture?
blue square point and ???

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i think the ppl should do pic by pic as in step by step guide...he's lazy..so all put in 1 pix
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QUOTE(sukhoi37 @ Dec 30 2007, 10:19 PM)
need to run the card to check the resistance after modding?
where are the points to check resistance in your picture?
blue square point and ???
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system off-

u need to check the resistance on the the blue square point resistor as u shade (power off)
1kohm will give u 1.415vgpu (on 3d mode)

system on -
Vgpu measuring point will be any 1 of the red point
ur DMM red probe to any of the red point & black probe to ground

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QUOTE(rlhc17 @ Dec 30 2007, 11:26 PM)
system off-

u need to check the resistance on the the blue square point resistor as u shade (power off)
1kohm will give u 1.415vgpu (on 3d mode)

system on -
Vgpu measuring point will be any 1 of the red point
ur DMM red probe to any of the red point & black probe to ground
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can i just check the resistance only?
very hard to measure the Vgpu when the system is on, scary.... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(sukhoi37 @ Dec 30 2007, 11:46 PM)
can i just check the resistance only?
very hard to measure the Vgpu when the system is on, scary.... sweat.gif
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yup,can
but it is better to know the Vgpu too..... when running 3D
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hmmm ijust install a 3870 in my system dont know why my power dvd sudenly cant play any hddvd file...x264 no problem but hddvd got sound no video....before in 88gt no problem....haih oh yea bout the pencil mod quite interesting...but i dont have multimeter...damn it..
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QUOTE(kaiser_falco @ Dec 31 2007, 01:01 AM)
hmmm ijust install a 3870 in my system dont know why my power dvd sudenly cant play any hddvd file...x264 no problem but hddvd got sound no video....before in 88gt no problem....haih oh yea bout the pencil mod quite interesting...but i dont have multimeter...damn it..
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uninstall and reinstall the new power dvd. there is a special hardware optimizer for ati in power dvd.
maybe our power dvd is old and not compatible with ur 3870.
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QUOTE(DevilMan @ Dec 31 2007, 10:17 AM)
uninstall and reinstall the new power dvd. there is a special hardware optimizer for ati in power dvd.
maybe our power dvd is old and not compatible with ur 3870.
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try searching for powerdvd ultra edition... icon_rolleyes.gif
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Anyone Vmod success on HD3850??
Mind to share here?? drool.gif

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Just tried NFS PS on my 3850.
FPS Average 50 in 1024x768 rclxm9.gif

Every setting set to high. AA x4 rclxms.gif

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sad.gif can anybody teach me step by step vmod?
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Jan 2 2008, 03:06 PM)
Just tried NFS PS on my 3850.
FPS Average 50 in 1024x768 rclxm9.gif

Every setting set to high. AA x4 rclxms.gif

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.. 1024x768 seems very small resolution

how bout higher, 1280x1024 perhaps?? brows.gif
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QUOTE(gengstapo @ Jan 2 2008, 05:07 PM)
.. 1024x768 seems very small resolution

how bout higher, 1280x1024 perhaps?? brows.gif
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Oh...will try it later. smile.gif

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just pencil mod my 3870.
i mistakenly thought need to shade it from 5.12kohm to 1kohm.
the system cant boot up after i shade it to 3kohm.
luckily the card run fine after i wash the pencil shade away.
after that i tried to shade again.
3.9kohm, the Gvcore shows 1.7v....shocking.gif
i immediately shut down the system and did some clean up to the pencil mod point.
Gvcore is 1.49v, fan speed 70% temp fulload 63C, idle 59C.
i cant pass 940mhz in COD4 and 3dmark06.
no artifacts showed, but the screen freeze for few seconds then the rivatuner fan speed will change from fixed to auto.
sometimes the stupid ati vpu recovery will pop up.
never experience this in my previous GCs...sweat.gif
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1.7 v?? shocking.gif
lucky nothing happen to ur gcard..
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QUOTE(gengstapo @ Jan 2 2008, 05:07 PM)
.. 1024x768 seems very small resolution

how bout higher, 1280x1024 perhaps?? brows.gif
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1280x1024
Min FPS: 32
Max FPS: 51

Very happy w it thumbup.gif rclxm9.gif

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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Jan 3 2008, 11:17 AM)
1280x1024
Min FPS: 32
Max FPS: 51

Very happy w it  thumbup.gif  rclxm9.gif

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optimize for High definition , high resolution thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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Highest benchable HD3870 with pencil mod to up to 1.45vgpu speed smile.gif


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QUOTE(rlhc17 @ Jan 3 2008, 01:33 PM)
Highest benchable HD3870 with pencil mod to up to 1.45vgpu speed smile.gif
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Is it usable for games? Stressed it yet? You are still using the HR-03 right? Which mod did you use? New or old?

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QUOTE(rlhc17 @ Jan 3 2008, 01:33 PM)
Highest benchable HD3870 with pencil mod to up to 1.45vgpu speed smile.gif
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wah, shocking.gif shocking.gif shocking.gif
thats high man,
congrats,
max temp? using stock cooler?
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QUOTE(ryugan @ Jan 3 2008, 01:09 PM)
thats y we call HD 3850/70 mah
optimize for High definition , high resolution thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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Yea rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif

QUOTE(rlhc17 @ Jan 3 2008, 01:33 PM)
Highest benchable HD3870 with pencil mod to up to 1.45vgpu speed smile.gif
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Nice score. thumbup.gif
Wish to get myself 3870 and try ..but too poor d. doh.gif

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uish..thats high..if xfire it,dunno la what the score will be..
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QUOTE(clayclws @ Jan 3 2008, 01:37 PM)
Is it usable for games? Stressed it yet? You are still using the HR-03 right? Which mod did you use? New or old?
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not game-able sad.gif still using stock cooler 100% fan speed
using old pencil mod

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wah,  shocking.gif  shocking.gif  shocking.gif
thats high man,
congrats,
max temp? using stock cooler?
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max temp 62c stock cooler 100% fan speed drool.gif
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Have a look at

Sapphire Atomic HD 3870
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saphhire always have crazy ideas....but cool :0
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hahah.. i thought inside got money..haha
like safety box for cash
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QUOTE(fesick @ Jan 5 2008, 01:19 PM)
hahah.. i thought inside got money..haha
like safety box for cash
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money that has been converted to something else. laugh.gif
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just pencil modded the vgpu to 1.54v
but i cant pass 950mhz core.
fan speed 100%, idle: 60C, load: 70C
ambient temperature 30C
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i wonder when gcard pin willchange to the other side..
cuz with normal casing..when we put gcard into the slot,we cant see the fan right..
mm..the fan look cool but we cant see it..
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yeah, agree with u..need to buy rare casing like lian-li than we can see the nice fan....haih.. cry.gif

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im new to physical vmodding, so pardon me for any noob questions.

Im a new owner of a HD3870, ive flashed the bios to enable further overclocking and currently achieving only 890mhz where 900mhz will result in crashing.

Currently my max load on 890mhz temp is only 40c which leaves alot of headroom for further overclocking IMHO. Which is why im resulting to vmodding, actually i prefer avoiding this, is there any way to do this another way? im currently reading up on changing voltage via bios.

Anyways.. on to pencil mod, is it possible to do it without a multimeter?
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QUOTE(AoiNatsume @ Jan 5 2008, 09:28 PM)
im new to physical vmodding, so pardon me for any noob questions.

Im a new owner of a HD3870, ive flashed the bios to enable further overclocking and currently achieving only 890mhz where 900mhz will result in crashing.

Currently my max load on 890mhz temp is only 40c which leaves alot of headroom for further overclocking IMHO. Which is why im resulting to vmodding, actually i prefer avoiding this, is there any way to do this another way? im currently reading up on changing voltage via bios.

Anyways.. on to pencil mod, is it possible to do it without a multimeter?
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it's quite dangerous to mod it without dmm. sweat.gif
I just bought a china brand dmm at rm45 only.
lousy?but i got the same reading with branded dmm(borrowed from company rm140).
rm50 for 100mhz boost...you judge the value. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(sukhoi37 @ Jan 5 2008, 10:52 PM)
it's quite dangerous to mod it without dmm. sweat.gif
I just bought a china brand dmm at rm45 only.
lousy?but i got the same reading with branded dmm(borrowed from company rm140).
rm50 for 100mhz boost...you judge the value.  tongue.gif
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go jalan pasar rm25 can get one digital or analog one. worthy investment i believe.
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well... my shop do have 1 thats for sure... but im not really sure on how it works... ill try to do some reading, but if possible, would u guys with experience vmodding it simplify me through it? very much aprpeciated notworthy.gif
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it's quite easy, shade the first pencil mod spot to 1kohm.
the default resistance should be 1.62kohm.
1kohm will give you 1.42 vcore.
it's better to check the vcore when you system is running in 3d mode.

how to check vcore:
black test probe put into any available psu molex connector ground (the black one is ground)
then use the red test probe to any red point (the left side row)showed in the picture.

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need advise notworthy.gif
im planning to get another 3870. is my 560w psu enough? doh.gif
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need advise  notworthy.gif
im planning to get another 3870. is my 560w psu enough?  doh.gif
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would be fine if you dont' oc your the 3870s.
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QUOTE(sukhoi37 @ Jan 6 2008, 01:37 PM)
would be fine if you dont' oc your the 3870s.
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QUOTE(DevilMan @ Jan 6 2008, 12:41 PM)
need advise  notworthy.gif
im planning to get another 3870. is my 560w psu enough?  doh.gif
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Haha...sell off your current 3870. And buy 3870x2. Then CF 3870x2 thumbup.gif thumbup.gif drool.gif

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system running in 3d mode..?is it the one that we set on CCC?
can explain bit for me..
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system running in 3d mode..?is it the one that we set on CCC?
can explain bit for me..
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i checked with dmm in 2d and gaming mode, no difference... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Jan 6 2008, 04:10 PM)
Haha...sell off your current 3870. And buy 3870x2. Then CF 3870x2  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  drool.gif

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3870x2? doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
thinking of that but have to throw out my st56f first.
ned 1000w psu with dual 8pin. shakehead.gif shakehead.gif shakehead.gif
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Waaa....post some results here bro.

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ATI HD3870 hardmod done...... smile.gif

getting ready for 1Ghz  thumbup.gif
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nice.
what's the difference between pencil mod and hardmod in overclocking?
the pencil mod effect will last for how long?
the hardmod definitely will void the warranty right?

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just got my Sapphire HD3870, i tried 860MHz on GPU, but hang when stress test (Real Time HDR Lightning), is there anything can be done blush.gif
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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Jan 7 2008, 05:37 PM)
just got my Sapphire HD3870, i tried 860MHz on GPU, but hang when stress test (Real Time HDR Lightning), is there anything can be done blush.gif
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save ur current bios using winflash and flash the one infront.
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done... but still, it'll hang when hitting 850MHz core clock... is the pencil mod will the better idea? haih... gonna do it as i did to my ex-7300GT la like this brows.gif
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Waa...torture bro wink.gif
Where is your 7300GT already? The most ganas one I saw

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hardmod u can adjust the voltage u like while the system is running
warranty void sad.gif

Hardmod to 1.52Vgpu (3D)




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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Jan 7 2008, 06:32 PM)
laugh.gif, long time RMA-ed laugh.gif, but long time already tongue.gif, erm... well currently put it back to my system and burn them... now @825/2500, scan for artifacts now...

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mine gpu can only go to 860 is pcie2 disabled. cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif
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QUOTE(rlhc17 @ Jan 7 2008, 07:03 PM)
hardmod u can adjust the voltage u like while the system is running
warranty void sad.gif

Hardmod to 1.52Vgpu (3D)
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oo, i pencil mod to 1.54vgpu but still cant pass 950mhz.
your hardmod only for vgpu? or both include vmem?
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QUOTE(DevilMan @ Jan 7 2008, 07:06 PM)
mine gpu can only go to 860 is pcie2 disabled.  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
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u need to flash the rev bios
link on the 1st page

QUOTE(sukhoi37 @ Jan 7 2008, 07:07 PM)
oo, i pencil mod to 1.54vgpu but still cant pass 950mhz.
your hardmod only for vgpu? or both include vmem?
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just hardmod vgpu only
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QUOTE(rlhc17 @ Jan 7 2008, 08:28 PM)
u need to flash the rev bios
link on the 1st page
just hardmod vgpu only
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done edi bro. it wont work with my pcie2.0 doh.gif
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done edi bro. it wont work with my pcie2.0  doh.gif
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wont work of what?
don't think there's oc issue because of pcie 2.0 cos i've seen many ppl with pcie 2.0 board oc it like mad. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(sukhoi37 @ Jan 7 2008, 09:22 PM)
wont work of what?
don't think there's oc issue because of pcie 2.0 cos i've seen many ppl with pcie 2.0 board oc it like mad. tongue.gif
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when i enable pcie2 will go to 840, if disable its goes to 860.
i did flash the bios many times. doh.gif
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QUOTE(DevilMan @ Jan 7 2008, 09:27 PM)
when i enable pcie2 will go to 840, if disable its goes to 860.
i did flash the bios many times.  doh.gif
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weird, rlhc also using pcie 2.0
but result is superb....
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fuuyoh..all rich guy here..all using Quad core eh..

a noob question here..how many % of performance will the processor affect the benchmark?

like myself using P4 3.0 HT if use 3870,will lose out how many marks compare to u guys using Q6600?


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alot bro, in your case, P4 HT vs Q6600, im expecting 3-5k difference. good clocked high end processor does make a significant difference, and ram does play a role as well.
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alot bro, in your case, P4 HT vs Q6600, im expecting 3-5k difference. good clocked high end processor does make a significant difference, and ram does play a role as well.
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enable/disable PCI-e 2.0? where to? in the BIOS?
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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Jan 7 2008, 10:43 PM)
enable/disable PCI-e 2.0? where to? in the BIOS?
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would like to find out with u guys...

my spec:
amd phenom 9500 2.2ghz stock cooler
2gb kit patriot 800mhz high performance 4-4-4-12 2.2v
msi k9a2 platinum 790fx chipset
msi oc edition ati3870 512mb x2 (crossfired) stock cooler
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500gb wd 16mb sata2

running on windows vista ultimate

3dmark06 score:
without cf: 10k
with cf: 12k

is this normal score? if yes, how to make it perform higher? if no normal then what is wrong?

secondly, temp is 72deg for ati3870. why is it high? should i change the cooler? if yes, then what cooler is reccomended?

sorry for the noob questions as im kinda new to this nexgen system.
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QUOTE(vickyrao @ Jan 8 2008, 05:11 AM)
would like to find out with u guys...

my spec:
amd phenom 9500 2.2ghz stock cooler
2gb kit patriot 800mhz high performance 4-4-4-12 2.2v
msi k9a2 platinum 790fx chipset
msi oc edition ati3870 512mb x2 (crossfired) stock cooler
silverstone zues 750watts psu
500gb wd 16mb sata2

running on windows vista ultimate

3dmark06 score:
without cf: 10k
with cf: 12k

is this normal score? if yes, how to make it perform higher? if no normal then what is wrong?

secondly, temp is 72deg for ati3870. why is it high? should i change the cooler? if yes, then what cooler is reccomended?

sorry for the noob questions as im kinda new to this nexgen system.
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the temperature should be normal if no oc....because stock cooler.... icon_rolleyes.gif

nice rig...btw biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(vickyrao @ Jan 8 2008, 05:11 AM)
would like to find out with u guys...

my spec:
amd phenom 9500 2.2ghz stock cooler
2gb kit patriot 800mhz high performance 4-4-4-12 2.2v
msi k9a2 platinum 790fx chipset
msi oc edition ati3870 512mb x2 (crossfired) stock cooler
silverstone zues 750watts psu
500gb wd 16mb sata2

running on windows vista ultimate

3dmark06 score:
without cf: 10k
with cf: 12k

is this normal score? if yes, how to make it perform higher? if no normal then what is wrong?

secondly, temp is 72deg for ati3870. why is it high? should i change the cooler? if yes, then what cooler is reccomended?

sorry for the noob questions as im kinda new to this nexgen system.
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use rivatuner to fix the fan speed.
i think your card temp will be lowered to 6+ at fulload.
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QUOTE(vickyrao @ Jan 8 2008, 05:11 AM)
would like to find out with u guys...

my spec:
amd phenom 9500 2.2ghz stock cooler
2gb kit patriot 800mhz high performance 4-4-4-12 2.2v
msi k9a2 platinum 790fx chipset
msi oc edition ati3870 512mb x2 (crossfired) stock cooler
silverstone zues 750watts psu
500gb wd 16mb sata2

running on windows vista ultimate

3dmark06 score:
without cf: 10k
with cf: 12k

is this normal score? if yes, how to make it perform higher? if no normal then what is wrong?

secondly, temp is 72deg for ati3870. why is it high? should i change the cooler? if yes, then what cooler is reccomended?

sorry for the noob questions as im kinda new to this nexgen system.
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your scores are rather low bro, on my rig i can score 11k on 3dmark06 on SINGLE HD3870 sweat.gif
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i hate the temperature =(...my card core can go to 710...din try more...but the temp at load is killing....so i took off the plastic thing, add a fan blowing on it..now idle is 31+ load not sure


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QUOTE(vickyrao @ Jan 8 2008, 05:11 AM)
would like to find out with u guys...

my spec:
amd phenom 9500 2.2ghz stock cooler
2gb kit patriot 800mhz high performance 4-4-4-12 2.2v
msi k9a2 platinum 790fx chipset
msi oc edition ati3870 512mb x2 (crossfired) stock cooler
silverstone zues 750watts psu
500gb wd 16mb sata2

running on windows vista ultimate

3dmark06 score:
without cf: 10k
with cf: 12k

is this normal score? if yes, how to make it perform higher? if no normal then what is wrong?
something is really wrong...check my sig...mines 3850 only

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it's not wrong.. just the cpu speed just ain't right...

yesterday i bought one 3850 for my friend.. got a chance to try on my system..
to my surprise the default gpu clock will give 9000 on 3dm06 result..
even for my 3870 end up 9600..

i'm on 3ghz cpu speed.. the default cpu just give me 7k on 3dmark...

if u can clock the phenom until 2.8ghz.. then the result will surely good..

for u guys worry about the temp... just set using rivaturner @ 50% fan speed.. with default bios fan spin is very slow.. that's why temp is high..
flash new bios should solve the prob... i got 60c onload now... last time 90c...
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QUOTE(vickyrao @ Jan 8 2008, 05:11 AM)
would like to find out with u guys...

my spec:
amd phenom 9500 2.2ghz stock cooler
2gb kit patriot 800mhz high performance 4-4-4-12 2.2v
msi k9a2 platinum 790fx chipset
msi oc edition ati3870 512mb x2 (crossfired) stock cooler
silverstone zues 750watts psu
500gb wd 16mb sata2

running on windows vista ultimate

3dmark06 score:
without cf: 10k
with cf: 12k

is this normal score? if yes, how to make it perform higher? if no normal then what is wrong?

secondly, temp is 72deg for ati3870. why is it high? should i change the cooler? if yes, then what cooler is reccomended?

sorry for the noob questions as im kinda new to this nexgen system.
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post out your 3dmark breakdown screenies...so we will know what the problem or just tell me what is your cpu score for the 3dmark??
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hmm.gif, yesterday just tried on Crossfire, but i doubt that is the Crossfire really enabled or not... tried 3DMark06, i got 10k doh.gif, same as single card doh.gif...
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hmm.gif, yesterday just tried on Crossfire, but i doubt that is the Crossfire really enabled or not... tried 3DMark06, i got 10k doh.gif, same as single card doh.gif...
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how u did bro? put the bridge or not?
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Jan 8 2008, 06:13 PM)
how u did bro? put the bridge or not?
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i did...

erm... just out of curiousity... must put both or just single bridge? because i did put single and both... doh.gif
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single only.. other one if want to do quad..
can check in catalyst xfire enable..

seriously cpu power needed.. even single gpu is overkill..
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QUOTE(vickyrao @ Jan 8 2008, 05:11 AM)
would like to find out with u guys...

my spec:
amd phenom 9500 2.2ghz stock cooler
2gb kit patriot 800mhz high performance 4-4-4-12 2.2v
msi k9a2 platinum 790fx chipset
msi oc edition ati3870 512mb x2 (crossfired) stock cooler
silverstone zues 750watts psu
500gb wd 16mb sata2

running on windows vista ultimate

3dmark06 score:
without cf: 10k
with cf: 12k

is this normal score? if yes, how to make it perform higher? if no normal then what is wrong?

secondly, temp is 72deg for ati3870. why is it high? should i change the cooler? if yes, then what cooler is reccomended?

sorry for the noob questions as im kinda new to this nexgen system.
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My advise is but a good cpu cooler, from what I know you can easily OC to 2.8Ghz.
That will help a lot. You should buy the BE version, more easier to OC. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Jan 8 2008, 06:24 PM)
i did...

erm... just out of curiousity... must put both or just single bridge? because i did put single and both... doh.gif
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both bridges bro........ tongue.gif
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Jan 8 2008, 06:42 PM)
single only.. other one if want to do quad..
can check in catalyst xfire enable..

seriously cpu power needed.. even single gpu is overkill..
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both bridge...left left n right right..both need to put
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here is my screenie...

overclocked to 2.3ghz...

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QUOTE(vickyrao @ Jan 9 2008, 03:12 AM)
here is my screenie...

overclocked to 2.3ghz...

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i'm sure u can overclock more...you're using stock cooler or aftermarket?
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both bridge...left left n right right..both need to put
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my bad..
http://ati.amd.com/technology/crossfire/howitworksdemo.html

confuse edy.. only dream on quad lol..

@vickyrao
that's screeny xfire?
not 2.3 it's 2.5ghz..
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QUOTE(vickyrao @ Jan 9 2008, 03:12 AM)
here is my screenie...

overclocked to 2.3ghz...

user posted image
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Maybe the vista is holding you back, change cpu cooler and psuh more. Thanks.
By the way has you enable PCIE 2.0 on both cards?

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here's my 1k+ coreclock speed.

It takes abt 1.5vcore to achieve this speed bench-able, the temps never above 44c on load... but i dare not pump more. This is a 55nm core... anything more it might be dead lolz.

well... currently i have some issue with my motherboard memory timings and vcore, with proper tuning i am very sure im able to get at least 12-13k. You would notice my last timing on the rams damm cacat, this is an issue with my K9A2 Platinum, currently still discussing with MSI support team.

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nice clock.
i'm still wondering why my sapphire cant even pass 950mhz at 1.54v. cry.gif
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QUOTE(AoiNatsume @ Jan 9 2008, 09:32 PM)
here's my 1k+ coreclock speed.

It takes abt 1.5vcore to achieve this speed bench-able, the temps never above 44c on load... but i dare not pump more. This is a 55nm core... anything more it might be dead lolz.

well... currently i have some issue with my motherboard memory timings and vcore, with proper tuning i am very sure im able to get at least 12-13k. You would notice my last timing on the rams damm cacat, this is an issue with my K9A2 Platinum, currently still discussing with MSI support team.

Will update soon once i am able to run my motherboard to its full potential icon_rolleyes.gif
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Great core timing. Can you play games with it?
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how you guys can get over 900MHz on core? pencil mod? hard-modding? unsure.gif, damn... i'm desperately doh.gif laugh.gif... and, is that on stock cooling?
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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Jan 9 2008, 10:18 PM)
how you guys can get over 900MHz on core? pencil mod? hard-modding? unsure.gif, damn... i'm desperately doh.gif laugh.gif... and, is that on stock cooling?
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yes, you can check previous pages.
rlhc did that with 1.42 Gvcore with stock cooler 100% speed. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(vickyrao @ Jan 8 2008, 05:11 AM)
would like to find out with u guys...

my spec:
amd phenom 9500 2.2ghz stock cooler
2gb kit patriot 800mhz high performance 4-4-4-12 2.2v
msi k9a2 platinum 790fx chipset
msi oc edition ati3870 512mb x2 (crossfired) stock cooler
silverstone zues 750watts psu
500gb wd 16mb sata2

running on windows vista ultimate

3dmark06 score:
without cf: 10k
with cf: 12k

is this normal score? if yes, how to make it perform higher? if no normal then what is wrong?

secondly, temp is 72deg for ati3870. why is it high? should i change the cooler? if yes, then what cooler is reccomended?

sorry for the noob questions as im kinda new to this nexgen system.
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@vickyrao,
i think my gpu is same with yours.
the default fan speed is only 30%. rclxub.gif
you can try to use rivatuner to adjust the fan speed to spin at 50%~60%

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you can check my temperature is only around 60'c when running 3dmark06, and 44'c idle... smile.gif

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QUOTE(sukhoi37 @ Jan 9 2008, 09:43 PM)
nice clock.
i'm still wondering why my sapphire cant even pass 950mhz at 1.54v. cry.gif
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thats weird.. mine is a sapphire as well, that speed was achieved @ 1.5v, actually, i did a few run with 1.5v @ 1026Mhz as well, it passes but point difference wasn't significant so i was a lil lazy to take a screenshot, oh yea, the mem can run @ 1350mhz too.

Could it be that your P.Regulators are overheating? try to cool off all the component on your card bro, esp the P.regs, i noticed they are VERY hot after vmod.

QUOTE(clayclws @ Jan 9 2008, 10:04 PM)
Great core timing. Can you play games with it?
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Shouldn't be a problem, 55nm does indeed run very cool, my idle is 36 and on load it doesnt even go more than 44c, it could be cooler, just that the GPU is looped right after my CPU and its affecting the temp of the entire WC.

QUOTE(sniper69 @ Jan 9 2008, 10:18 PM)
how you guys can get over 900MHz on core? pencil mod? hard-modding? unsure.gif, damn... i'm desperately doh.gif laugh.gif... and, is that on stock cooling?
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Pencil mod bro, and on watercooling.

Oh yea, u reminded me of something.

Credit goes to BrianYeo for helping me with the pencil mod, it really isnt as hard as i thought it would, then again, its a rather delicate process, a small mistake can toast your entire card.

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lol... apa la, no need credit for me.. ur the one who owns the pencil what haha....

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QUOTE(AoiNatsume @ Jan 10 2008, 12:35 AM)
thats weird.. mine is a sapphire as well, that speed was achieved @ 1.5v, actually, i did a few run with 1.5v @ 1026Mhz as well, it passes but point difference wasn't significant so i was a lil lazy to take a screenshot, oh yea, the mem can run @ 1350mhz too.

Could it be that your P.Regulators are overheating? try to cool off all the component on your card bro, esp the P.regs, i noticed they are VERY hot after vmod.
Shouldn't be a problem, 55nm does indeed run very cool, my idle is 36 and on load it doesnt even go more than 44c, it could be cooler, just that the GPU is looped right after my CPU and its affecting the temp of the entire WC.
Pencil mod bro, and on watercooling.

Oh yea, u reminded me of something.

Credit goes to BrianYeo for helping me with the pencil mod, it really isnt as hard as i thought it would, then again, its a rather delicate process, a small mistake can toast your entire card.
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owh on WC... aiyak... after 7 series GeForce, kinda lazy (actually takut wooo... doh.gif laugh.gif) to pencil mod..., besides... all i did was on low-end card, so... not hurt much as HD3870...

damn, i'm gonna make it sooner or later, blindly without DMM... whistling.gif

eh, btw... do you guys even flash to other BIOS or stock? after that mod?

erm... this is what i got... not yet bench, but after 3DMark06 stress test, gonna push more... smile.gif...

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950/2500
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water cooling....
then i guess my stock cooler is holding me.
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QUOTE(sukhoi37 @ Jan 10 2008, 08:17 AM)
water cooling....
then i guess my stock cooler is holding me.
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same here, using stock air cooling, i can't pass 1GHz barrier... doh.gif

just wanted to inform tongue.gif, i'm turning off other additional fan and set the cooling fan @50%, once load up Real Time HDR, i got 100°C in a blink doh.gif laugh.gif, hanged and restart tongue.gif

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well.. i think the problem is with the stock fan itself. Theres a mod simple for it and it works just like the 88GT/GTX series. Just remove the HSF cover and direct a fan to blow directly to it, or zip-tie the fan to it. Not very aesthetic there, but it works better than the stock fan.

oh btw sniper, i noticed you are using the omega drivers, any result change from the catalyst 7.12?


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QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ Jan 10 2008, 12:38 AM)
lol... apa la, no need credit for me.. ur the one who owns the pencil what haha....
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wanna yum cha today? tongue.gif


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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Jan 10 2008, 12:56 AM)
owh on WC... aiyak... after 7 series GeForce, kinda lazy (actually takut wooo... doh.gif laugh.gif) to pencil mod..., besides... all i did was on low-end card, so... not hurt much as HD3870...

damn, i'm gonna make it sooner or later, blindly without DMM... whistling.gif

eh, btw... do you guys even flash to other BIOS or stock? after that mod?

erm... this is what i got... not yet bench, but after 3DMark06 stress test, gonna push more... smile.gif...

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950/2500
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im using the modded bios that remove that OC barrier, without that bios... i doubt that i can hit 900 at all sweat.gif

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anyone tried to pencil mod 3850? can reach 1000mhz core?
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QUOTE(AoiNatsume @ Jan 9 2008, 09:32 PM)
here's my 1k+ coreclock speed.

It takes abt 1.5vcore to achieve this speed bench-able, the temps never above 44c on load... but i dare not pump more. This is a 55nm core... anything more it might be dead lolz.

well... currently i have some issue with my motherboard memory timings and vcore, with proper tuning i am very sure im able to get at least 12-13k. You would notice my last timing on the rams damm cacat, this is an issue with my K9A2 Platinum, currently still discussing with MSI support team.

Will update soon once i am able to run my motherboard to its full potential icon_rolleyes.gif
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a rather of topic.. what's ram problem bro with that board?
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Jan 11 2008, 09:59 AM)
a rather of topic.. what's ram problem bro with that board?
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the TRAS and TRC always stays at 18 clock regardless of what timing i set them.

And also, my max vcore is only 1.47v which left me unable to go any further than 3.4Ghz.


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QUOTE(AoiNatsume @ Jan 11 2008, 10:22 AM)
the TRAS and TRC always stays at 18 clock regardless of what timing i set them.

And also, my max vcore is only 1.47v which left me unable to go any further than 3.4Ghz.
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i tried with different beta bios, even if not quite good but i'm not facing those prob..
maybe ur ram picky on the timing..
i tried bios 110,111,121,113,122,131

u can go here for the latest beta
ftp://jerryuser:msienduser@ftp.msi.com.tw/BIOS/7376

guess need to open separate thread for it though..

all i found max vcore = 1.607, vdimm = 3.2v
now i'm on 131 bios
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hi all,need some help form ur!
which brand 3870 more better? or all same???
me more prefer Asus or PowerColor OC Edition(WithZeroTherm HS)
got any disadvantage of this both card?
my fran want sold me PowerColor with the zerotherm HS,at rm 790!
izzit worty?
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QUOTE(leslie0880 @ Jan 11 2008, 10:36 AM)
hi all,need some help form ur!
which brand 3870 more better? or all same???
me more prefer Asus or PowerColor OC Edition(WithZeroTherm HS)
got any disadvantage of this both card?
my fran want sold me PowerColor with the zerotherm HS,at rm 790!
izzit worty?
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all same.. temp depends on cooler..
oc base on luck..
good looking.. user preference..
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Jan 11 2008, 10:42 AM)
all same.. temp depends on cooler..
oc base on luck..
good looking.. user preference..
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thn is my fran Power color 1 worth?
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Jan 11 2008, 10:32 AM)
i tried with different beta bios, even if not quite good but i'm not facing those prob..
maybe ur ram picky on the timing..
i tried bios 110,111,121,113,122,131

u can go here for the latest beta
ftp://jerryuser:msienduser@ftp.msi.com.tw/BIOS/7376

guess need to open separate thread for it though..

all i found max vcore = 1.607, vdimm = 3.2v
now i'm on 131 bios
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ive tried all those bios as well and problem are still persisting. As for the ram timing, all the clocks which i was able to run with my other boards cannot be used on this board... suspecting maybe my F3 is the culprit which is why im asking to borrow an AM2 proc just to test haha.


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3850 users no need pencil mod...just flash to modded bios only....so that 3d vcore is @ 1.33v if im not mistaken....can push more...but need better cooler now smile.gif
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1.33v is rather low for 1k corespeed bro. and if im not wrong, 1.33v is the stock speed on load. Vmodding is still needed.

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