phenom is quad core

9 out of 10 news from the enquirer cannot really be taken seriously...

i love the phenom cause its using the HT Link unlike the Intel quad processors are still using FSB....

This post has been edited by dj2004: Dec 4 2007, 12:10 AM

Let see if new stepping really can go higher clocks.

Really. Can you explain why. Or is this blind love.

Its not blind love, just AMD die hard fan. Anyway, in the name of technology still HyperTransport is advance than FSB. Dunno what AMD will come out when Intel introduce CSI on mainstream in 2009.

Whats the point of being more advanced when in the end, performance still lags!

Already said lo, he is a AMD fanboy. Die also die with AMD
But i suspect most PC enthusiast are just neutral, we support whoever gives us the performance and bang for bucks!

somehow amd lags behind intel slightly and due to my budget i cant go for intel.............. so i will be sticking to AMD

This post has been edited by Laguna: Dec 4 2007, 03:21 PM

so is there any news dat said d am2 proc price will decrease a lot??
cant wait for dat to happen...

phenom only can use in the motherboard that have 790fx chipset?

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Added on December 4, 2007, 5:14 pmnot lag behind intel lar ....just follow closely...but if in term overclocking ...then they are really lag behind

This post has been edited by fcuk90: Dec 4 2007, 05:14 PM

most AM2 mainboard (with AMD690, geforce 5 n 6 series chipset) can support phenom with a BIOS upgrade.

But u can only get 2000 hypertrans bus for these mainboard.

I hope AMD would make a come back soon The overclocking community is more into Intel's these days.

I wait for that day till my leher so long ady.

http://www.techreport.com/discussions.x/13724

You should be more clear on that. FSB @ Front Side Bus stille exists but the difference is that the middle man has been cut out on AMD. But that distinct selling point advanatge will disappear once Nehalem comes on stream later next year. What's next? Possible further integration of further functions. For example NIC interfaces could be one

Bleh a workaround such as that won't fix matters at all. It's just gonna be skirting around an issue which they should have solved long ago what with the delays and all. Guess it's "B3" for those who seriously want decent performance. Sure the TLB issue and degradation of performance may not affect day-to-day usage but it's like saying it's ok not to treat a tumour just because it's not life-threatening

This post has been edited by almostthere: Dec 4 2007, 07:14 PM

If I'm not mistaken, all previous benchmark of phenom is not affected by the update slowdown right, since they haven't release any updates yet. If so, this could be very bad

Once that news makes its way around, anyone who's looking to buy that chip would probably hold off until end of Q1, which by then Intel's 45nm range of CPU would probably be available as well. Seems like AMD is going to have a very, very tough time ahead.

Current phenom in the market is as good as a crippled CPU, made worse by the fact that the already slow CPU will gets slower due to whatever BIOS update they have.

This post has been edited by Hornet: Dec 4 2007, 08:10 PM

well, if it is a cripple cpu, why release it first place? or why not make it cheaper than b3?

delayed for too long and the need to recoup so called costs ASAP would be the general idea

well, i doubt amd will gain profit from selling phenom to enduser this year.