amd gonna bankrup soon, fast2 grab their product if you love them.
save amd.

seriously with higher price than q6600 but less performance than q6600, price cut is a must now.

^ yea u' r prob right. two more failure in a row (k11 k12), now will kill them. but that prob wont happen (damn why am i talking bout this?)

but now really disappointed, waited for like a year for this thing.

^ well well well good for you. me? i'm still under great consideration to go intel. haih

^ wait but does this means if no amd then no x86?

well, if it is a cripple cpu, why release it first place? or why not make it cheaper than b3?

well, i doubt amd will gain profit from selling phenom to enduser this year.

^ well, i dont know. but to me losing money a little seems better than losing respect.

anyway thats 26% less performance than intel q6600.

i think you should wait for the B3, it is the same price with the crippled cpu with tlb fix, just without the 10% performance deduction if im correct.

i thought amd will release all their phenom to be unlock multi later?

any news over b3 stepping yet?

How much is it just produce an unlock multiplier cpu compare to locked cpu?

I dont think the unlock multiplier will burn your cpu if you use high number or max it, it will only affect the stability. Now here is where you adjust the voltage <-- the danger part. Still the possibility is there.

I dont have much knowledge in oc, but i think this is correct.

Anyway even if AMD afraid of end users rma their cpu from oc fault, why do they even release the AMDoverdrive software that clearly a support for oc?

AMD finally ships B3?

I think in term of stability after oc yes, because of the defective core issues. Not many phenom user able to oc it more than 100mhz. Herm, I doubt B3 will be any differ.