but the pricing 4 phenom between c2d e6750 and c2q q6600 wasnt that bad what

the price place it squarely against Q6600, which the performance is about the same, roughly (Q6600 sometimes beats it but at a very small, not-practically-noticeable margin)

What AMD need to do is actually sell them cheaper than Q6600, and they need to do it fast because intel may cut Q6600 price when all the new 45nm processor is in the market.

If AMD waits for intel to cut their price, nobody is going to buy it. They have to bring their price down to be the cheapest quad core CPU, right now, so they will sort of like be a budget quad core and people will actually buys it. Those who looking to set up a budget quad core system will go for AMD. They have to do it now if they wants a share of the market

At least Phenom has a strong point (although still cannot beat the current crop of Intel's offering C2E QX9650 and QX6850), which is in 3D rendering. The margin is not that much compared to Intel's proc. This is ideal for animators where they can build a reasonable priced PC for rendering without sacrificing much of performance.

Phenom is not compatible with socket 939.

Not too sure with AM2 but I read somewhere that with AM2, the CPU won't be able to individually throttle the speed and vcore of each individual core..... 

yup... tomshardware has better thought of AMD
Anandtech's Phenom review
anandtech however, think phenom is all doom and gloom

Bro,phenom is k10 family and its from AMD.

Oh ya,it will be cheaper than INTEL.

The artwork is pretty good but the cooler looks el cheapo.

oh, so the the Inquirer is a kock of bulls eh....

HAHAAHA

So AMD is actually using microcode patch to fix the bug but with a 10% performance hit?
No wonder they are pushing for a later stepping

well, i doubt amd will gain profit from selling phenom to enduser this year.

me personally feels AMD system responds quicker than Intel based system. already test a lot of proc, E6600, E6750, E6300, X2 3800+, X2 3800+ oced 3.0ghz, X2 4000+. from my experiences amd systems respond a bit quicker than intel system. maybe the hytertransport tech is better than older tech used by intel which is front side bus (FSB)...only intel better in benchmarking.

just like nvidia vs ATI, real life gaming, ATI is better, nicer graphics and better IQ...instead nvidia is better in benchmarks...