Truly a BIG BIG dissapointment from AMD!!!
They've been boasting their performance for like a year now.. What 40% better than Intel!! hahaha
I was thinking it could b better a little than the current Intel products on market.. gosh was I WRONG.
All empty gas from the AMD pretenders
Penryn is gonna smoke this Phenom(menon failure!)

http://www.amd.com/us-en/Corporate/Virtual...~117115,00.html

Have to wait very loong. the Chipzilla has awoken after a kick by AMD with their AMD64. Intel is no longer the old sluggish company. They are restructuring themselves to be more efficient and pushing themselves to the limit to compete in this cut throat business.

The boom of the late 90's has made Intel proud n lazy n complacent but not now.

U think AMD is the first with integrated memory controller or CSI?? Intel have similar plans long time ago, just some bad management and foresight failed them.

Intel is now in the lead and they wont let go of it so easily now.

yup... tomshardware has better thought of AMD
Anandtech's Phenom review
anandtech however, think phenom is all doom and gloom

AMD wont go bankrupt one. The OEM and ODM wont want to see a scenario where Intel is the only player on the market.
The worst is we see AMD being taken over by another investment group or large company.

AMD has been losing money for years before Athlon and AMD64 comes along

Found a bit of interesting news on Tom's hardware Phenom review

Tom's Phenom review & conclusion -- wrong?

Is Tom's H a AMD fanboy?

Mind to explain more?

The description is pretty vague. Under a highly specific and detailed set of conditions, an internal resource livelock may occur
between a TLB reload and other cached operations.
I don't see how this can affect virtualization? Unless u got some info that we dont?

And the performance hit 5% -10% is cause by this errata? But this bug says it caused a livelock which means ur system will hang??

I think you are looking at the wrong errata. Errata 254 suit more the official statement by AMD.
"The Translation Lookaside Buffer (TLB) errata is an L3 protocol issue causing a system hang when running certain client workload applications independent of platform. AMD is immediately introducing an updated BIOS which will correct the TLB errata".

This problem was found during speed-binning the B2 revision processors, and this was the cause for the Phenom FX 3.0 GHz delay. It turns out that some CPUs running at 2.4 GHz or above in some benchmarking combinations, while all four cores are running at 100% load, can cause a system freeze.


This bug delayed the AMD parts to Jan next year. This bug prob wont cause a performance hit but instead will cause the system to hang.
It seems to me that AMD is downplaying the seriousness of this bug since it can cause the delay of higher than 2.4 Ghz speeed bin.
Intel can get away with these kinda bugs with a patch update, but AMD still have to fix in a new stepping

I got it from theinquirer.net

http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/new...nom-ghz-due-tlb

oh, so the the Inquirer is a kock of bulls eh....

HAHAAHA

So AMD is actually using microcode patch to fix the bug but with a 10% performance hit?
No wonder they are pushing for a later stepping

Already said lo, he is a AMD fanboy. Die also die with AMD
But i suspect most PC enthusiast are just neutral, we support whoever gives us the performance and bang for bucks!

AMD indeed has very poor quality control
I mean how can such a major bug escape the validation team??

This is not as serious as intel's FP bug in the 90's but at this time, AMD is just pushing itself closer to grave..
And their rock bottom share price of USD9 just shows how low the confidence the market has on AMD

Quite suprise to see Phenom also loses on the memory benchmark.
Just reinforce my opinion that the Phenom is a failure.

AMD stock drop after they announced the downsize of 10% of the employees..
Pity these ppl..