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Ramjade
post Jan 26 2025, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(hzmaz2017 @ Jan 26 2025, 10:56 AM)
Many do not understand the excessive glucose can do in the body.

The glucose will caused every cell to rot.

Every single organ in the body will eventually rot.

The eyes will rot, and go blind. The kidneys will rot, and need dialysis. The heart will rot, and get heart attacks and heart failure. The brain will rot, and get Alzheimer’s disease. The liver will rot, and get fatty liver disease and cirrhosis. The legs will rot, and get diabetic foot ulcers. The nerves will rot, and get diabetic neuropathy. No part of the body will be spared.

The solution is to get rid of the sugar.

How?

1. Put less sugar in.
2. Burn off remaining sugar.
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Some people are in denial.

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post Jan 26 2025, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 26 2025, 11:44 AM)
Some people are in denial.
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Denial is one of many defense mechanisms. It entails ignoring or refusing to believe an unpleasant reality.

Defense mechanisms protect one's psychological well-being in traumatic situations, or in any situation that produces anxiety or conflict.

Denial can involve many different cognitive strategies including avoiding thinking about something, contradicting it, or focusing on alternative explanations.

Denial is an initial response that is used to fend off anxiety when encountering a life-altering event or threatening situation.

However, prolonged denial can cause strong, negative pathological connotations and hinder a successful adaptation.

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TSrtk73
post Jan 26 2025, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(heinlein @ Jan 26 2025, 10:27 AM)
intentionally take pasta, sugar and dried fruit somemoar
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 26 2025, 11:44 AM)
Some people are in denial.
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The doc is asking me to eat something in stagger to check which is the main trigger
But looks like that's not super acceptable for you guys, even saying I'm in denial
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post Jan 26 2025, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(hzmaz2017 @ Jan 26 2025, 10:56 AM)
Many do not understand the excessive glucose can do in the body.

The glucose will caused every cell to rot.

Every single organ in the body will eventually rot.

The eyes will rot, and go blind. The kidneys will rot, and need dialysis. The heart will rot, and get heart attacks and heart failure. The brain will rot, and get Alzheimer’s disease. The liver will rot, and get fatty liver disease and cirrhosis. The legs will rot, and get diabetic foot ulcers. The nerves will rot, and get diabetic neuropathy. No part of the body will be spared.

The solution is to get rid of the sugar.

How?

1. Put less sugar in.
2. Burn off remaining sugar.
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No sugar, then will die even faster than have sugar bro.

Not get rid of sugar, but to regulate sugar to a normal point..
Masuk hospital take drip also got glucose inside

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post Jan 26 2025, 03:40 PM

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My dear, what happens in the body if we do not remove the excess glucose?

First, the body keeps increasing the amount of insulin it produces to try to force more glucose into the cells. But this only creates more insulin resistance, in what then becomes a vicious cycle.

When the insulin levels can no longer keep pace with rising resistance, blood glucose spikes.

That’s when the doctor is likely to diagnose type 2 diabetes.

The doctor may prescribe a medication such as insulin injections, or perhaps a drug called metformin, to lower blood glucose, but these drugs do not rid the body of excess glucose.

Instead, they simply continue to take the glucose out of the blood and ram it back into the body. It then gets shipped out to other organs, such as the kidneys, the nerves, the eyes, and the heart, where it can eventually create other problems.

The underlying problem, of course, is unchanged.

The more glucose you force your body to accept, the more insulin your body needs to overcome the resistance to it. But this insulin only creates more resistance as the cells become more and more distended.

Once you’ve exceeded what your body can produce naturally, medications can take over.

At first, you need only a single medication, but eventually it becomes two and then three, and the doses become larger.

And here’s the thing: if you are taking more and more medications to keep your blood glucose at the same level, your diabetes is actually getting worse, my dear.
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post Jan 26 2025, 06:47 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 26 2025, 06:17 AM)
Seeing what he eats also you know he is not scared. Still taking high carbs food.
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QUOTE(heinlein @ Jan 26 2025, 10:27 AM)
intentionally take pasta, sugar and dried fruit somemoar
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In case you all not aware Ts mentioned some where else before he’s over 100-120 kg
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post Jan 26 2025, 07:17 PM

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QUOTE(hzmaz2017 @ Jan 26 2025, 03:40 PM)
My dear, what happens in the body if we do not remove the excess glucose?

First, the body keeps increasing the amount of insulin it produces to try to force more glucose into the cells. But this only creates more insulin resistance, in what then becomes a vicious cycle.

When the insulin levels can no longer keep pace with rising resistance, blood glucose spikes.

That’s when the doctor is likely to diagnose type 2 diabetes.

The doctor may prescribe a medication such as insulin injections, or perhaps a drug called metformin, to lower blood glucose, but these drugs do not rid the body of excess glucose.

Instead, they simply continue to take the glucose out of the blood and ram it back into the body. It then gets shipped out to other organs, such as the kidneys, the nerves, the eyes, and the heart, where it can eventually create other problems.

The underlying problem, of course, is unchanged.

The more glucose you force your body to accept, the more insulin your body needs to overcome the resistance to it. But this insulin only creates more resistance as the cells become more and more distended.

Once you’ve exceeded what your body can produce naturally, medications can take over.

At first, you need only a single medication, but eventually it becomes two and then three, and the doses become larger.

And here’s the thing: if you are taking more and more medications to keep your blood glucose at the same level, your diabetes is actually getting worse, my dear.
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agree on that, my family has diabetes history, I always find time to exercise on weekends and the only carb i eat is rice and bread in the morning. Sometimes I hv low blood sugar til I have cold sweat so I have to eat a little sweet stuff like half stick of dark chocolate kitkat. When I see TS wrote he eats cake, walao that thing I didnt touch for ages carb + lot of sugar, how is it not trigger his blood spike, which natural sugar and carb doesnt trigger glucose spike, I think his doctor either orang gila run away from tanjung rambutan pretend to be doctor or he is just apprentice doctor say stupid things to patient

QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Jan 26 2025, 06:47 PM)
In case you all not aware Ts mentioned some where else before he’s over 100-120 kg
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I remember he mentioned he is overweight but I dun specifically know his exact weight
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post Jan 26 2025, 07:31 PM

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QUOTE(heinlein @ Jan 26 2025, 07:17 PM)
agree on that, my family has diabetes history, I always find time to exercise on weekends and the only carb i eat is rice and bread in the morning. Sometimes I hv low blood sugar til I have cold sweat so I have to eat a little sweet stuff like half stick of dark chocolate kitkat. When I see TS wrote he eats cake, walao that thing I didnt touch for ages carb + lot of sugar, how is it not trigger his blood spike, which natural sugar and carb doesnt trigger glucose spike, I think his doctor either orang gila run away from tanjung rambutan pretend to be doctor or he is just apprentice doctor say stupid things to patient
I remember he mentioned he is overweight but I dun specifically know his exact weight
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I didn't mention this but cake = old 50 cent size
A literal silver

Pasta was not a full load, just enough to fill sauce dish - 2 spoonfuls

Sugar = teriyaki sauce - I just list it as sugar


Unless you're saying rice not carbs?

Testing =either bread or rice, types of rice, types of cooking of rice
Rinse repeat
Fruits = types of fruits, dried vs fresh etc etc

Again notes for my ownself but you guys judge everything within several post

Anything below 4.5 makes me light headed, so at the same time searching for a balance.

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post Jan 26 2025, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(rtk73 @ Jan 10 2025, 01:05 PM)
What now?
Found during annual check, wasn't even pre-diabetic on prior check
Doc just said lifestyle change gave some meds and that's it.

No resources or anything.
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its good you found out earlier than later

whatever the doc asks you to do, follow

diabetes is not a death sentence, can be controlled one
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post Jan 26 2025, 07:47 PM

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QUOTE(rtk73 @ Jan 26 2025, 07:31 PM)
I didn't mention this but cake = old 50 cent size
A literal silver

Pasta was not a full load, just enough to fill sauce dish - 2 spoonfuls

Sugar = teriyaki sauce - I just list it as sugar
Unless you're saying rice not carbs?

Testing =either bread or rice, types of rice, types of cooking of rice
Rinse repeat
Fruits = types of fruits, dried vs fresh etc etc

Again notes for my ownself but you guys judge everything within several post

Anything below 4.5 makes me light headed, so at the same time searching for a balance.
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aren't you basically trying to figure out the GI level of each "carb" food you are eating?

plus your "experiment" is too adhoc..
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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Jan 26 2025, 07:47 PM)
aren't you basically trying to figure out the GI level of each "carb" food you are eating?

plus your "experiment" is too adhoc..
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Nahhh I have a seperate spreadsheet which includes quantity, not accurate to the gram but close enough.

Not necessarily just GI, but other factors as well are included.
Since fruits not really carbs, like can't really take in apple by the looks of it
(other associated food intake, water intake, distance/steps walked, excercises)

Heck includes my sleep schedule

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QUOTE(rtk73 @ Jan 26 2025, 07:31 PM)
I didn't mention this but cake = old 50 cent size
A literal silver

Pasta was not a full load, just enough to fill sauce dish - 2 spoonfuls

Sugar = teriyaki sauce - I just list it as sugar
Unless you're saying rice not carbs?

Testing =either bread or rice, types of rice, types of cooking of rice
Rinse repeat
Fruits = types of fruits, dried vs fresh etc etc

Again notes for my ownself but you guys judge everything within several post

Anything below 4.5 makes me light headed, so at the same time searching for a balance.
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I believe no one is judging you.

Everyone is using this forum as a platform to post and discuss their thoughts, ideas, and solutions on the topic you had raised up.

DR. VERNER WHEELOCK said, "If I had a flood in my house . . .I would not spend day after day, week after week, & year after year buying buckets, mops and towels. I would not be inventing different types of buckets and more expensive mops or drainage systems to ensure the water drained away quickly. I would find the source of the water and turn it off!"

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post Jan 26 2025, 08:54 PM

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QUOTE(hzmaz2017 @ Jan 26 2025, 08:13 PM)
I believe no one is judging you.

Everyone is using this forum as a platform to post and discuss their thoughts, ideas, and solutions on the topic you had raised up.

DR. VERNER WHEELOCK said, "If I had a flood in my house . . .I would not spend day after day, week after week, & year after year buying buckets, mops and towels. I would not be inventing different types of buckets and more expensive mops or drainage systems to ensure the water drained away quickly. I would find the source of the water and turn it off!"

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Yes bro, to date ady I've lost 2.5kg in 2. 5 weeks
Generally walk 8k per day, now doing 15-20k perday
Swim whenever I can

The test are done so I know whether fructose, lactose, maltose, galactose are bumping up the issue. Unfortunately had to kill off gut bacteria biome when I took antibiotic for H. Pylori.

Maybe it's linked maybe it's not. So best to look into it properly so I can plan the diet.

Can't go all the way for proteins as gout/kidney stones are something the family had. Poop issues are well documented

Not pushing just plant proteins as well. F soylent

I need to know how to balance and create a variety of acceptable meals.
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QUOTE(rtk73 @ Jan 26 2025, 08:54 PM)
Yes bro, to date ady I've lost 2.5kg in 2. 5 weeks
Generally walk 8k per day, now doing 15-20k perday
Swim whenever I can

The test are done so I know whether fructose, lactose, maltose, galactose are bumping up the issue. Unfortunately had to kill off gut bacteria biome when I took antibiotic for H. Pylori.

Maybe it's linked maybe it's not. So best to look into it properly so I can plan the diet.

Can't go all the way for proteins as gout/kidney stones are something the family had. Poop issues are well documented

Not pushing just plant proteins as well. F soylent

I need to know how to balance and create a variety of acceptable meals.
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got walk daily as exercise is a good start, bravo on that thumbup.gif
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post Jan 27 2025, 07:17 AM

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TS kena type berapa diabetes?

Try la formula FMD ni

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post Jan 27 2025, 08:18 AM

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QUOTE(Pugbunny @ Jan 27 2025, 07:17 AM)
TS kena type berapa diabetes?

Try la formula FMD ni

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Type 2

Ive been doing half of that even before getting diagnosed

No. 4 kinda impossible in Malaysia. Unless change to lard/tallow
Lard not too hard, but tallow? No one renders it
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post Jan 27 2025, 08:58 PM

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Since most MY staple food is either rice/noodle, how to have less carbo except eat less portion?

How does #13 helps with diabetes?

QUOTE(Pugbunny @ Jan 27 2025, 07:17 AM)
TS kena type berapa diabetes?

Try la formula FMD ni

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my father had T2 (passed on in 2011) ,my mom has dimentia, so sked abt family history and in 2023 I had enough, i was 143KG at peak in early 2023, today is 88KG since mid 2024. and maintaining it. blood glucose 3 hours after breakfast was 4.5

much easier to move around and no panting and sakit paha when getting up.

the thing I do is cut out carbs/sugar, basically a lifestyle change.

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QUOTE(jinaun @ Jan 27 2025, 09:16 PM)
my father had T2 (passed on in 2011) ,my mom has dimentia,  so sked abt family history and in 2023 I had enough, i was 143KG at peak in early 2023, today is 88KG since mid 2024. and maintaining it. blood glucose 3 hours after breakfast was 4.5

much easier to move around and no panting and sakit paha when getting up.

the thing I do is cut out carbs/sugar, basically a lifestyle change.
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Used to count at 3 hours, doc sounded me
Set at 2 hours...
congrats bro!
Almost 1/2 gone
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QUOTE(jutamind @ Jan 27 2025, 08:58 PM)
Since most MY staple food is either rice/noodle, how to have less carbo except eat less portion?

How does #13 helps with diabetes?
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Swap it for sweet potatoes, parboiled rice or really brown rice. Or skip totally.

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