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icehart85
post Jan 14 2025, 07:08 AM

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QUOTE(fist_Aileron @ Jan 12 2025, 12:38 PM)
So you do know the impact of ketosis  on the microbial diversity and the hormones? Yes you need to modify because increasing LDL due to high fat diet although some say large fluffy LDL is good, its not as good as it sound.

I agree LCHF is good but not really high fat. Its best keep to enough protein, moderate healthy fats.

My concern is deep ketosis. Not really LCHF. You cant really do ketosis and high intensity workout at the same time as efficient as glucose albeit "unclean" energy. Believe me. Ive done ketosis for many years since 15 years back when even many doctors against my practice. Its not even a thing in the west, malaysian still on high carb low fat diet that time.
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No! Malaysians are never on high carb low fat. More like high carb high fat! mad.gif
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post Jan 14 2025, 07:09 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 12 2025, 04:17 PM)
It helps the microbial as far as I know. Heck if you feed both soluble and insoluble fibres to the microbes they will thank you by producing short chain fatty acid which is very beneficial to you. It reduces inflammation.

I don't think I am in deep ketosis. But I know fasting and exercise is the only way to  improve insulin sensitivity and reduce insulin resistance. Cause you want to get rid your visceral fat (inflammatory fat in your body).

I do OMAD and on and off 48H fast with the diet as mentioned above. My diet got lots of veges, minimum fruits.
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No wonder you have problems. You get rid of your visceral fat by eating more fat? Lol
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post Jan 14 2025, 07:17 AM

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QUOTE(icehart85 @ Jan 14 2025, 07:09 AM)
No wonder you have problems. You get rid of your visceral fat by eating more fat? Lol
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You need brown fat. Visceral fat is very inflammatory. Brown fat burns down visceral fat. I don't avoid fats. I take good fats.
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post Jan 14 2025, 07:44 AM

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Aiyo TS.

I hope you can keep your diabetes under control.
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post Jan 14 2025, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(icehart85 @ Jan 14 2025, 06:42 AM)
Omg please ignore the messages from this fellow guys. Why diabetes is an epidemic now is because of these kind of responses.  bangwall.gif
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huh? dude, im talking about fat cell in the body, not fat as food source. I didnt suggest people to increase their calories intake or change diet to keto or something.
if fat managament didnt work, my blood sugar glucose today morning wont be 4.2mmol.

so yeah enjoy your crappy taste low fat product.
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post Jan 14 2025, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(icehart85 @ Jan 14 2025, 06:51 AM)
Are you on diabetic medication?
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i was... now i am not... im keeping my random blood sugar and HbA1c under control.
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post Jan 14 2025, 10:40 AM

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post Jan 14 2025, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 12 2025, 06:18 PM)
Need to have variety of fruits and veges to grow your microbes. What you eat is what you get.
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This i agree. But more variety doesnt mean need as much. Not fructose laden fruit at lease. Pick variety but dont eat too much as advocate by kkm. Their diet is horrible for hormonal balance and body recovery.
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post Jan 14 2025, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(icehart85 @ Jan 14 2025, 07:09 AM)
No wonder you have problems. You get rid of your visceral fat by eating more fat? Lol
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You need to understand de novo lipogenesis doesnt occur by eating more fat. Its not the main driven factor. Sugar and process carb is one of the main culprit

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post Jan 14 2025, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(icehart85 @ Jan 14 2025, 06:38 AM)
This is correct. Cut your fat intake. How low? Less than 3g per serving.


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No lah, cut body fat percentage not fat intake.
Fat intake including cholesterol doesnt increase as much body fat as compare to sugar or carb.
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post Jan 14 2025, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(icehart85 @ Jan 14 2025, 06:39 AM)
What the.... doh.gif
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Both also not wrong. You and him. Its just tthat u dont understand the concept. Higher fat cell is protective so the more u take sugar carb the more Higher your body fat and insulin level to protect your body from sugar damage.

Hyperinsulinemia itself is a disease though not recognise by mainstream practice. It is the hallmark of diabetes heck even a sign of prediabetes.
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post Jan 14 2025, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(icehart85 @ Jan 14 2025, 06:43 AM)
You can use Chat GPT to fact check.

How Whole Food Plant Based (WFPB) diet can reverse Type 2 diabetes.
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I dont need to check its my area of expertist. Thanks for the info though.. I read collin campbel on 7 country studies and i like content from dr gregor too. Any kind of diet as long as low sugar low ultra processed food is okay to me. ..both low carb high carb got pro and cons lah just need to be wary of it.
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post Jan 14 2025, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(icehart85 @ Jan 14 2025, 06:55 AM)
Did you get your kidney checked? What medication are you on?
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Hahaha. Thats jus bs propaganda by the mainstream. I even take in thousands mg of vitamin C daily but my kidney is healthier than thousands in the hospital because of taking drugs.

Do check on hospital statistics main cause of kidney/liver failure. I can assure you 100% each and every, not most. EVERY SINGLE hospital.. top main cause is drugs ..iatrogenic.

Definitely not keto diet, not supplements or herbs in the top list.

Can ask or investigate if you dont believe. You will get many excuses and justification from the mainstream. It is called CAPITALISM.
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post Jan 14 2025, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(icehart85 @ Jan 14 2025, 06:56 AM)
Try low fat instead of low carb. Your body will thank you.
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Low fat is so 80's 90s. Its new millenia laa..can do own reading unless lazyass like those so called fatty expert up there.
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post Jan 14 2025, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(icehart85 @ Jan 14 2025, 07:08 AM)
No! Malaysians are never on high carb low fat. More like high carb high fat!  mad.gif
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Ya thats even worst high carb high fat. Well our diet recommendation is high carb low fat anyways. Not my cup of tea for healthy lifestyle. Food pyramid is laughable even to professor in diet face.

They the expert couldnt even answer why for many decades we are on this abomination diet. True story.

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post Jan 14 2025, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(icehart85 @ Jan 14 2025, 06:56 AM)
Try low fat instead of low carb. Your body will thank you.
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i still eat healthy fat and at least exercise on weekends
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post Jan 14 2025, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(fist_Aileron @ Jan 14 2025, 11:44 AM)
Low fat is so 80's 90s. Its new millenia laa..can do own reading unless lazyass like those so called fatty expert up there.
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Doesnt matter, its effective, why fix something that's not broken? Problem is people think it's boring because not many can tahan their high fat junk food meat addiction
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post Jan 14 2025, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(heinlein @ Jan 14 2025, 01:38 PM)
i still eat healthy fat and at least exercise on weekends
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No such thing as healthy fats. All fats are bad.
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post Jan 14 2025, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(fist_Aileron @ Jan 14 2025, 11:46 AM)
Ya thats even worst high carb high fat. Well our diet recommendation is high carb low fat anyways. Not my cup of tea for healthy lifestyle. Food pyramid is laughable even to professor in diet face.

They the expert couldnt even answer why for many decades we are on this abomination diet. True story.
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Define low fat. Give me percentage figure
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post Jan 14 2025, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(rtk73 @ Jan 10 2025, 02:05 PM)
What now?
Found during annual check, wasn't even pre-diabetic on prior check
Doc just said lifestyle change gave some meds and that's it.

No resources or anything.
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