Brudder if you wanna take my advice then just make your intentions clear to her.

You want to take her out.
You want to get to know her.

I even give you the script to say to her. To find out.

Fast 7 bit lah. Waiting for updates lah cb. Slow week at work.

dont blame me i also waiting... this week only time i saw her she was busy, only last week friday got miracle somehow she was just studying by herself

i considering just dm her tomorrow if i dont see, what r the main problems with that? why exactly is asking face to face better

Consider what rooster?

You know you overthinking. And now you want to indulge in your overthinking. We all no time lah. Fast 7 a bit can?

She busy so what? Just go up to her and say “hey you’ve been so swamped and busy, need time out also, how about we go check out <cool new chill cafe> this weekend.”

Bloody hell, take every single opportunity you get. How you know she busy? Maybe she purposely pretend busy so she don’t look like she’s been sitting around whole day for you to show up. Can you stop pondan already?

No la bro this time she talking to someone else the whole time. If I interrupt them very sohai no?

Walk up to them, SMILE, tell the person she’s with sorry, can I steal her for a minute from you.

Talk to her, with the sentence I gave you. She says yes/ok. Look back at the person she’s with, say thank you to him/her and “she’s all yours”.

SMILE, be polite and courteous but confident.

Oh my god do I need to teach you how to be a polite human being? What’s wrong with your generation?

Edit: the person she’s with is her friend teman her wait for you so she don’t appear desperately sitting there alone waiting for you. Understand? You stupid or what?

This post has been edited by Jason: Apr 4 2025, 01:32 PM

no la bro im sure this one isnt her friend, probably a teaching assistant? sometimes i just see her around listening to seemingly random people yap. this is one of those times. she was walking with him to the canteen, probably finished listening to him in one area then change scenery.
sadly didnt see her today. so the next time i see her going to ask lor. enough cooling period already. but idw go straight for a date, probably dinner again.

Too many assumptions, too less action

Just do it bro, tru tho u have to be slightly thicc face

Just see opportunity to ask her out when shes alone

Don’t overthink. Just grab every opportunity that is in front of you.

Ask her out, if she asks you “is it a date?”, answer her “only if we both have a good time”.

CONFIDENCE.
That’s what women like in a MAN.

wait.. wait... wait.. wait..

that's all we're hearing from you from day one.

wait for this
wait for that

you need to take action. This is not a relationship advice, but a general advice in life. You want to wait for the all planets to align before you make a move ah? You don't take action, nothing happens.

If I am a betting man i will put my money on this as a failure. You ts put sooo much planning, and scheming into his move then he is making his approach like too big to fail....usually end up choking.
The more you care what she think the more it will show in your actions and it will make you look weak in her eyes.

my money's actually on the table even though TS is her junior

in campus where got senior girl date junior boy, maybe got but damn rare

and while in friendzone, i wanna know, once in that state, can always upgrade even further to steady state.......just make sure she doesn't find any bf during the time

It is very difficult to exit the friend zone unless you drastically change something that she look at you differently. Else you’ll be stuck there forever.

agreed....can end up forever-kawan
but
(correct me if i'm wrong)
the way i see it, (almost) everyone starts off from "being friends" first before getting more n more acquainted along the way to buddy stage n so forth...
strangers meeting on some dating app or jumpa at clubbing, gym, dance class.....etc, has a tendency to bypass this stage altogether
almost everyone starts off from being friends first

how long it stays within this "fren" stage depends....
(usually) SHE's the one that finally decides (based on the male side......charisma to capture her heart of sort)
if the relationship stays that way or not

Everybody can say be confident
but realistically, how many people can do it consistently over a period of time?

It's like asking a patient just bear the pain or ask someone don't cry
but as a doctor, you know this is just a temporary solution
we as anonymous do not know the whole story of TS
ie what are his defense mechanism etc

sharing the "techniques" are just top of goods
the bottom is more important
what are his belief system
how do someone see the world through the lens of past experiences

a woman also can like a weak man (seemingly from a superficial exterior judgment). There's a photo of muscular fit woman married a chubby guy viral on the internet. Yes, the fact that he's not physically built up seems weak, but do we know the whole story? Never.

This post has been edited by -mystery-: Apr 9 2025, 05:53 PM

Nah. You make your intention known since day 1
“Feel an attraction to you, not sure what it is, want to get to know you better. “

Or

“I’ve got plenty of friends, but you, you just give a different kind of energy around you. I don’t want to just be friends with you, I feel there’s more to you than what I see. Tell me more about you”

Be bold, be jantan, make your intentions known upfront so that it is not misunderstood or coming across as creepy.

Edit: and if she’s not in for the ride from the start. Move on! So you don’t waste time energy and effort to be friend zoned in the end.

This post has been edited by Jason: Apr 9 2025, 05:58 PM

Excuses
TS either wants to change and improve
Or he remains as is

But universal truth is that the only constant is change. Don’t want to change and want to remain a loser? Sure. Nobody can help a person who doesn’t want to be helped.

He believe he is pondan, then he is.
Sure, got woman who likes pondan. There’s always an exception.

You remind myself back in my 18-28 years old period
I was clueless just as you in this dating marketplace
the point is the fish seems big in your current eyes now
because you have never had this kind of experience
once you have ABCD experience, your perspectives will grow and your emotional maturity will strengthen

that's also the point of us going to gym or go get rejected by tons of females (but be mindful about it)

Instead of seeking ways to catch a fish, feel it out about how to attract a fish instead.

There's an idle period for every person it depends how lengthy it's. Without rest the whole humane experience crumble and the recovery will become even more difficult.

Jesus H. Christ the advice in this thread.