at least we know what is the character of the trader...and up to the customer whether to buy their item or not

WAH!!!!!!!!! Lucky i saw this thread!!!! If not i think i will be next victim!!! You mean this none responsible seller selling Refurbished paraller to you, & say it is not refurbished item?? is it??

I hate ppl who doing business not honestly, Really feel lucky!!!!

wahh lucky nyer kamu...just register today, n go find this thread to bring up back..very good honest people i have seen...its up to u want to buy or not..u can check watever u want b4 buy..n i just do COD..u think its worth to buy then u pay..if not just leave it..
ini org sgt jelous tgk my biz berkembang maju..thanks to all my supporter

Like that can u explain for this?? & yes, i`m sure will not buy from u, & this is my choice. & is that i got done something wrong? I read this thread then i found something & then respond my feeling??

Ajul: ini org sgt jelous tgk my biz berkembang maju..

*Remark: i think this is none of my business, no matter ur business how big or small/ how come i need to jelous u?? & pls control ur emotion with ur word, i never saw a real business man can respond word like this to customer. ( i mean in retail shop/ shoppingmall ) .

& the last real thing is - u already done the bad thing to this customer.

wow, thinking to get macbook from him, but lucky i found this thread..wonder a seller like him, how to survive in lyn.haha

This post has been edited by ROTiJOHN: Apr 12 2008, 11:13 AM

eh? so you just bought the macbook from him? so ok ar wat u received?

to ajul: some of us bukannye niat di hati nak deliberately down-kan ajul.. just that, kalau boleh, improve-kan lah seller-to-customer relationship tu.. first step is always a good etiquette of communication.. jgn le ckp 'get from other seller'.. mcm mana nak improve camtu.. rasa² ajul kalau semua buyer baca thread ni diorg jadi tak beli the stuff from u? kalau advise ni tak cukup untuk menyedarkan muhasabah diri ajul, tak tau lah camne lagi..
ok, just my 2 cents..

sorry to admin/mod if this post is in any way not compliance with the constructive post requirement..

Fuh, dah la misleading, biadab, kerek plak tu.
Baru meniaga online dah belagak besar.

Ko nak meniaga, buat cara nak meniaga.
Bila customer tanya, jawab je la, nak kerek kerek buatpe.

Aku pun tak penah cakap ngan customer aku dgn cara macam tu.
Tak faham kenapa ada orang nak beli dgn mamat ni.

Kita sama sama la doa supaya semua buyer yang nak beli dari dia rujuk dulu Trade Dispute ni supaya buyer-buyer tu tau tak berbaloi pun beli dari dia.

some of my supporter :

good buyer also...always make me on a trouble all a day...

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Added on April 12, 2008, 12:47 amHow are refurbished computers manufactured?


Stringent guidelines are followed. All units are brought up to fully functional condition, with defective parts replaced by working parts. Scratches and abrasions cannot exceed one inch on primary viewing plane. Refurbished business products go through two quality control checks before being re-boxed for sale to ensure high reliability.


Where do refurbished computers come from?


Refurbished computers are not used computers that have been in use over a long period of time. Most are cancelled orders and customer return units, others are overstocks, evaluation units, cosmetically blemished products and older discontinued products. Refurbished products are tested and if necessary, non-working components are replaced with working parts to bring the product up to fully functional condition.


What is your return policy?


Customers who wish to return product are required to obtain a Return Goods Authorization (RGA) by contacting the HP Business Outlet at 1-800-658-1131. RGA's must be requested within 10 days of product delivery date. In most cases, shipping costs for returning product back to HP will be paid by the customer; final determination will be based on the reason for the return. Original shipping and handling charges also may not be refunded to the customer; final determination is based on the reason for the return. To avoid delays in receiving your refund, please read our complete Return Guidelines.


Do you offer a warranty?


Refurbished products purchased from HP come with complete HP warranty, service and support. The level of service and duration varies depending on the model.


Generally speaking, refurbished business notebooks, desktops, workstations, tablet PCs, thin clients and corresponding options come with a one-year limited warranty, while refurbished handhelds vary by model with either a one-year or 90-day limited warranty. Details of these limited warranties can be found in the chart below.

Limited Warranty Period*
The Limited Warranty Period for a refurbished HP Hardware Product is a specified, fixed period commencing on the date of purchase. The date on your sales receipt is the date of purchase unless HP informs you otherwise.

Refurbished business PCs and options Limited warranty service Response time**
Desktops 1 year Parts
1 year Labor
1 year On Site Next business day
Thin Clients 1 year Parts Only Standard turn around
Personal Workstations 1 year Parts
1 year Labor
1 year On Site Next business day
Notebooks 1 year Parts
1 year Labor
1 year Carry-In Two business day
Handhelds Same as New Same as New
Options 1 year Parts only Standard turn around
Monitors 1 year Parts only Standard turn around

Can I upgrade my warranty coverage?


The limited warranty for refurbished desktops, workstations, notebooks, handhelds and thin clients can be upgraded by purchasing an HP Care Pack that extends your hardware coverage from one year to three years and includes service enhancements like pick-up and return services and next business day response time (depending on package). HP Care Pack Services are intended for machines used for business, rather than consumer, family or household purposes.


reference : http://www.hp.com/sbso/buspurchase_refurbished_faq.html


This post has been edited by ajul: Apr 12 2008, 12:47 AM

huhu.ko tunjuk feedback ko before aku beli nak buat apa?
dah jadik kenangan..

pastu ko paste pasal refurbished nak buat apa?
ko pon takde mention masa nak aku nak beli atau nak jual..
sudah la mamat..

ckp jek lebey nak buat apa..orang dah buat bisness berjuta2 pon lek2 jek..takde nak hentam customer.ikut ko la..
ko pon tahu halal haram tuh apa..
ko pon tahu apa rasanya kalau orang tipu ko..
ko pon slalu

so for those who have intention to buy from him..just think and think again...
bagusla rezki ko murah kan..ramai beli dari kau...tapi ingat2 tuhan la beb~tuh jek aku nak pesan..

bukan nak kata aku bagus..tapi ingat2 la...tak tahan lama org deal mcm ko..

OMG!!!! After i read the information above!! Already confirm this brother Ajul head must be got problem, That mean he already MENGAKU that he is selling THE REFURBISHED NOTEBOOK!! To uglytwinkle!!! Not the brand new notebook with HP WARRANTY!!!!

Hey man, is that got any buyer here can accept pay BUY BRAND NEW NOTEBOOK money to buy a REFURBISHED NOTEBOOK ??

& Please see the picture below, the HP (M) SDN BHD already mention this model is not Brand New notebook & will not provide any warranty for it!!!




& The Last thing i need to say is you post so much Good Feedback for What? Is that got any use?? Ok, or like this!!! Please invite all of your supporter come & read this thread!!!


May I know is that ADMIN LYN Will Do Something??? Because this AJUL IS CHEATING CUSTOMER & his Atitude & Manner really like SHIT!!!!

Wow, then the story is different if the unit of TS was refurbished . TS has paid the amount for a BRAND NEW Notebook, NOT REFURBISHED NOTEBOOK, it consider cheating case in this story

This post has been edited by siemens6688: Apr 12 2008, 09:40 PM

but TS seem can accept the fact of tis... suggest TS report at Consumer Tribunal asap....berlagak seller wif pathetic minded

he can be sue under criminal act and contract act

Yeah , the problem is this Smart SalesMan Name Ajul still looks like not wakeup from morning yet! & still keep explain & explain for no point things!!!

I agree with steventan, wish uglytwinkle can go & Report To Consumer Tribunal!! Let me tell a story about my friend:

last time my friend he go to The Mines Shopping Mall Buy a nokia phone!! That salesman selling an AP set to him, but say it is 100% original nokia set!! The big problem is that stupid salesman sell to him with Original AVAXX Price!!

After that he go back & argue with that salesman, but unfortunately that salesman so LCLY with no manners!! Then he direct go to report GOV Consumer Tribunal Department & , after a week time, that shop kenal sapur all the AP set & KENAL SUE!!

Hope Admin can do something to this Smart SalesMan Ajul With Good Manners.

& Here is the Information Of Department Consumer Affairs:

Ministry Of Domestic Trade & Consumer Affairs
(Kementerian Perdagangan Dalam Negeri & Hal Ehwal Pengguna)
Lot 2G3, Presint 2,
Pusat Pentadbiran Kerajaan Persekutuan,
62623 Putrajaya.
Tel: 03 - 8882 5500
Fax: 03- 8882 5762
Website: www.kpdnbep.gov.my

Hope Uglytwinkle can take action & give this Good Manners Salesman a Good Lesson.

This post has been edited by Austin: Apr 16 2008, 04:25 PM

SUPRISE!!!

milkyway (3/17/2008 9:09:22 AM): salam bro..
milkyway (3/17/2008 9:09:33 AM): penang posting buat kan?
milkyway (3/17/2008 9:10:40 AM): buyer nak cepat brg minggu ni.. bleh deal ke tak ni?
Zul Qais (3/17/2008 9:12:06 AM): model apa?
milkyway (3/17/2008 9:12:39 AM): penang delivery buat ke tak?
milkyway (3/17/2008 9:12:46 AM): apsal mcm susah je nak deal?
milkyway (3/17/2008 9:12:51 AM): tak berminat kah?
Zul Qais (3/17/2008 9:12:59 AM): kau ni masalah apa
Zul Qais (3/17/2008 9:13:03 AM): aku tnye model apa ko nak
milkyway (3/17/2008 9:13:11 AM): aku tanya penang delivery buat ke tak
milkyway (3/17/2008 9:13:17 AM): kalau tak buat takyah susah2 nak bebel pasal model
Zul Qais (3/17/2008 9:13:22 AM): kenapa pulak xbuat
Zul Qais (3/17/2008 9:13:26 AM): sbb tu aku tnye model apa
milkyway (3/17/2008 9:13:35 AM): kalau buat ckp aja "ya" bukan susah kan nak jawab "ya" ?
Zul Qais (3/17/2008 9:14:31 AM): kalau ko nak suh aku ikut apa yg ko nak , baik ko ckp ngan robot je
milkyway (3/17/2008 9:15:36 AM): tak sangka lak susah nak deal.. igt mcm austin.. dia ckp dia kenal ko gak tu pasal aku berani nak deal.. susah la plak
milkyway (3/17/2008 9:15:38 AM): nevermind
Zul Qais (3/17/2008 9:16:03 AM): mood aku tgh xde
Zul Qais (3/17/2008 9:16:08 AM): ko plak ckp mcm bgs
milkyway (3/17/2008 9:16:26 AM): bukan bagus. kalau confirm brg jap lagi je aku nak bankin terus 2 model
Zul Qais (3/17/2008 9:16:29 AM): ko pergi je la beli ngan kedai dpn umah ko
Zul Qais (3/17/2008 9:16:38 AM): xyah nak kecoh2
milkyway (3/17/2008 9:16:39 AM): aku rushing byk benda lain nak buat
milkyway (3/17/2008 9:16:48 AM): ha ok ok
Zul Qais (3/17/2008 9:16:51 AM): ko igt ko punye keje je
Zul Qais (3/17/2008 9:17:01 AM): aku pon byk keje lain dr nak lyn ko
Zul Qais (3/17/2008 9:17:17 AM): da chow la
milkyway (3/17/2008 9:17:18 AM): yaya bahasa melambangkan bangsa
milkyway (3/17/2008 9:17:19 AM): later.

nice to have a little conversation with u abg ajul.
sorry uncle austin your name also interframe

This post has been edited by milkyway: Apr 16 2008, 04:58 AM

Zul Qais (3/17/2008 9:12:06 AM): model apa?
milkyway (3/17/2008 9:12:39 AM): penang delivery buat ke tak?
milkyway (3/17/2008 9:12:46 AM): apsal mcm susah je nak deal?

nak cepat..brg pon xbgtau nak model yg mana..(this question i ask to check stock wether got ready stock or not n can delivery fast)
pastu xsempat bagi jawapan bole kata sy xbuat delivery n susah nak deal..WTH this fella..my answer is kalau nak cepat sangat beli je la kt shop dpn umah..xyah la susah2 nak deal ngan sy kt kl ni..itu je ringkasan ayat di atas..
n dont expect people always in front or their computer with yahoo messnger sign in..u can call his phone number to direct talk with him..more fastest n u can get the answer immediately..

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Added on April 16, 2008, 11:23 amRetail malaysia model by that time is rm5999 for dv6000 model..for all dv6563cl model is from same source..he already do research n survey before buying from me..buyer just pay around rm4499 like that n get refund another rm50 (for cover my fault n he already agree before in a phone call for webcam specification) .

and 1 thing he never mention from this thread is mybe that item sold to another buyer..after take profit n another buyer complaining about his service..then he put ALL THE BLAME TO ME 1 MONTH AFTER DEAL SUCCESSFULL..YES its COD not courier or postage deal..

Question no 1. Webcam specification

Answer : buyer get refund another rm50 (n he agree) to buy external webcam. (if im not reponsible better i not pay him refund rm50)

Question no 2 : Warranty

Answer : Yes warranty still there 1 year warranty from date of purchase n he can claim at any Keypoint Sdn Bhd service center in Malaysia(not cover by HP Service Center.(already mention when deal, if not buyer also dont know where to call n take their warranty card), i give him Keypoint service center address, Phone no n direct reference person to contact.

Question no 3 : warranty card delay untill 1 month

Answer : that is a card only..the warranty we just check serial no and fill a few form to submit..n NO warranty card for ALL HP product..u can survey in whole market for HP item..n see whether got warranty card or not..

p/s ; jaychow007 is uglytwinkle or similar like that ..their work only for find my weakness side..bcoz he register to this forum only for bump this thread..find all the ways to find back this thread n up with some provocation to make all my potentional buyer worry..this kind of people still n always will find my weakness..hari hari asyik pikir nak sakitkan hati org..takut2 diri sendiri yang xtenang..byk masa terbuang je bro..Rezeki tu Allah yang tentukan..kalau betul aku xjujur , suatu masa nanti sure aku pon xbuat business lagi..itu shj..percaya pada ketentuan Allah..

I'm Say Sorry to uglytwinkle if make him dissapointed...already many2 time say sorry, in phone, ym, now in this LYN thread..he never ask for full refund, just ask exchange for model with webcam, n by that time dont have similar spec with webcam, then i decide to pay him rm50 as refund to cover my fault.. if he refuse to take my rm50 refund for that webcam, just ask for full refundn sure i will gave to him n he can buy new retail malaysia model at rm5999..then what else u want?



This post has been edited by ajul: Apr 16 2008, 04:30 PM

ko nih pon, dia tanyer:

POSTING BUAT KER TAK.. APESALAH KALO KO JAWAB.. YE, SAYER BUAT POSTING VIA POS LAJU KER, SKYNET KER, APER KER.. LEPASTUH, BARU BLEH BINCANG PASAL MODEL.. HAIYAAAA... LAGI SATU, AYAT TU KASI BAIK2 LA SKET.. TAHU LA BAD MOOD, MOOD PEMBELI KENA JAGA LA BANG..

bro, u look at the conversations once again, there is nothing wrong with ajul though, he just asked wat model the buyer wants... and he supposedly has to ask it first before he goes through everything. and milqy suddenly said like that... that's not polite.

i had go tru all this thread...regarding uglytwinkle issue with ajul..i don want to comment (im more a little bit towards uglytwinkle although i think both parties have their own mistakes... )..but regarding milkyway chat log...haha..for me its quite funny , the seller already ask what model, so if milkyway give the models, the seller can check its availability, can make a fast deal or not, can posting or not.....n i totally agree with anggajaya statement..
so i guess between milkyway n ajul, miscommunication...

1 thing to mentioned out....

"Brand New" laptop that don't have warranty from HP itself is still consider as "Brand New"?

Explain the laptop is Refurbish product or Brand New, before I go post in your new thread again.