DNB out of money where money all where telco injected during SSA agreement? are they paid for outstanding first instead of spending on newer ones or First thing this SSA really happened?
PMX shows anger recently on DNB as they not provide business plan after 2nd 5G rollout what DNB actually doing?

Also 5G has been congested more then before. DNB social media pages not active. 5G interactive map coverage lastly updated on September what this guys really going 😒

5G in Malaysia still joke not matured enough for previous or new government. Better they should have been stick to SWN instead DWN they make big mistake. DNB struggled both financially and supports from telco and GOVT

This post has been edited by NagaK: Dec 9 2024, 01:02 PM

Not surprising as many take up rates on 5G devices & services...

With DNB single monopoly....

Congestion issues now become more worse.... Heck the speed already like 4G or e
Sometimes 3G 😭

Telcos should work with DNB with good motive to solve issue but it’s seems doesn’t they still fights with MCMC and GOVT for own network 5G spectrum network fight will continue until next 5 years

This the problem

Both parties not really cooperating each others...

The previous government should heed the Telco calls... Not using single entity DNB....

Let them all build own infrastructure.... Let them spend $$$... The best & complete coverage wins the battle

Yes I mentioned before previous and current government are immaturely handling it. End users are suffers pay more for plans and phones

The MNOs already been given their privilege of creating their own network during 4G era. CelcomDigi and Maxis have the best coverage but at what cost? What Malaysian get? High 4G price with ridiculous FUP. Even with that privilege, Malaysia 4G internet speed is still one of the slowest in Southeast Asia.

To make DNB sound more efficient, DNB only need to use 100Mhz of N78 and 20Mhz of L28 to be have of the fastest MEDIAN 5G speed in the whole world while other country with millimeter wave spectrum is below Malaysia.


https://www.lowyat.net/2022/266106/malaysia...load-speed-sea/

This post has been edited by OfficiallyAhmad: Dec 9 2024, 07:21 PM

End user "pay more"? Based on what data you reference to? Finding by The Edge in the article publish on 11 November 2024 shown that 5G plan price per Gb is almost 76% cheaper than 4G plan (in context of SWN).



*Maybe I'm missunderstanding your point because you talking in context of DWN instead of SWN? If I'm missunderstanding your point, I appologize for it.

This post has been edited by OfficiallyAhmad: Dec 9 2024, 07:17 PM

SWN definitely cheaper cost for end users.
We got more affordable plans and more data compared to last 3 years.
I'm talk about if what Govt gives spectrum to all telco to establish 5G instead of SWN

Telcos just laugh at DNB. Let DNB settle everything since telcos forced to pay. If DNB unable to provide good 5g, telcos just wash their hand.

Not necessary, it can be a consortium of telcos without MOF in it. MCMC plays the role of regulator and mandate them to provide 5G in rural area just like how DNB did.

Fastest median speed because that time not much people are using 5G. Now surely speed drop.
Celcom or Maxis do not even get 100Mhz spectrum at that point of time. Digi even have to take over from 1 particular company to get 4g spectrum.

In 2022, while the world already launched 5G in 2020, Malaysia telco mostly still using 4G - that is why we are the slowest speed in region. Gov been withholding the spectrum but blame it on telco not launching 5G. Most telcos like Celcom and Maxis already claimed they are hardware ready waiting for spectrum to enable 5G in 2019.

Your comparison is always biased without stating the amount of users in the network and time period of 5G launch for Malaysia vs other countries 5G.

The right way to compare is based on same amount of users but the info not easy to acquire therefore shall compare based on year of launch. A 3 year old 5G networks vs a 3 year old 5G network.

DNB 5G speed is observably slowing down now … are we still fastest in the world?

What i observe was DNB start self proclaiming fastest and this and that after few months launch to compare with other telcos in region been using 5G for years.

The agenda i saw probably Ericsson want to show the world single wholesale network (only 1 in the world) works so the marketing cost throws in to buy all the biased recognition.

From an investor point of view, reason no telco wants DNB cause:

1. DNB using Ericsson hardware which none telcos in Malaysia using, incompatibility is an issue.
2. DNB has MOF as major shareholders and golden share, no reason to buy into DNB when cant control + potential fund mismanagement or songlap will happen as like most GLC
3. DNB as per gov is not for profit making company - why buy into company that purpose not to make money?

DNB is a shithole made by MOF now looking for telco to cover the hole. The concept is a problem the first place + Ericsson as equipment vendor. It will be a long road to come out with a solution for DNB, and network quality will deteriote without gov continue to pump money to build sites.

Second wholesale network will have better potential by the outlook.

And there's some "pressure" from western countries especially from "Big brother" to use "reputable source" for second 5G equipments... Read: either pick up Ericsson or others European / US companies instead of PRC like Huawei 😊

Last Wednesday all 5G antenna been installed but haven't activated I guess as I don't get 5G signals


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Another reply, another "surely". I want to read facts from you yet all I get is just an assumption again and again.
Latest report by OpenSignal shown that Kuala Lumpur still has one of the fastest 5G speed in APAC.
https://www.opensignal.com/2024/11/07/benchmarking-the-mobile-experience-in-apac-cities-november-2024

For context, Malaysia in December 2024 already have 52% of user using 5G network in just 3 years of 5G rollout by DNB.https://www.businesstoday.com.my/2024/12/17/malaysia-achieves-significant-progress-in-5g-adoption-and-jendela-initiatives/

If spectrum bandwidth is the reason why Malaysia 4G speed is slower compared to other country. Malaysia 5G only use 120Mhz of bandwidth total while other country like USA have more spectrum bandwidth than Malaysia 5G. Yet their median 5G speed limit still can't even beat Malaysia.
https://www.opensignal.com/2024/06/06/5g-fixed-wireless-access-fwa-success-in-the-us-a-roadmap-for-broadband-success-elsewhere

This post has been edited by OfficiallyAhmad: Dec 18 2024, 01:45 AM

Don't worry. Have some patience. I see a 5G basestation installed for month before they even activate it. You will know it's activated when the signal is getting higher than usual.

This post has been edited by OfficiallyAhmad: Dec 17 2024, 03:11 PM

Based on that Lowyat article. The only country that doesn't have 5G is Cambodia and Vietnam. Yet still, Vietnam is high above Malaysia in mobile speed ranking.https://www.lowyat.net/2022/266106/malaysia-2nd-lowest-download-speed-sea/

Malaysia 4G speed ranking in 2016(3 years after 4G rolled out in Malaysia.) For context, fastest 4G speed in this chart is 41Mbps.
https://www.opensignal.com/reports/2016/08/...mobile-network#

Malaysia 5G speed ranking after 3 years of rollout.

Compared to other country that also getting slowed down the more user they have? Malaysia 5G speeds indeed have decreased from a median of 506.96 Mbps in Q2 2023 to 387.39 Mbps in Q2 2024 yet Malaysia 5G speed still remain among the fastest globally.

In contrast of Lowyat favorite 5G country, Thailand 5G speed recorded a stagnant median speed of 133.5 Mbps as of Q2 2024.https://www.ookla.com/articles/apac-5g-midband-spectrum

Yet when comparing with other country that have same amount of 5G service like Malaysia, they still can't beat Malaysia median 5G speed.https://www.ookla.com/articles/apac-5g-midband-spectrum

Again, assuming without backing up your statement with any data or prove.

Internet especially mobile network is already becoming a basic nessasity. We have other sectors that can be push towards profitability such as A.I.

I thought the benefits of competition during 4G era is to have cheaper and better product for consumer? Suddenly the discussion now is about to milk the profit from the consumer as much as possible?

So, goverment supporting DNB is just like other basic subsidies we have in Malaysia. Giving affordable and accessible services to Malaysians is suddenly a bad thing?

Think long term, cheaper 5G plans will drive growth in tech industries and spill over into the economy. Just like how public transport, even if costly and "wasteful", it benefits surrounding areas in the long run.

It's ironic that you said 5G will become deteriorating when decades after 4G existed in Malaysia, we still have congestion problem with 4G network. So what is the difference with DNB? With 4G, I still have to pay Rm60+ just to get respectful FUP while with 5G, YES and Umobile can offer 5G plan with bigger FUP in more affordable price than 4G plan.







This post has been edited by OfficiallyAhmad: Dec 18 2024, 11:39 AM

Yes and U Mobile still has long way to go for their indoor coverage esp 4g. Without 4G currently, you cannot even make and receive regular phone calls.
The difference with DNB is that they can put in any price as a single monopolistic entity without competition.

Salim Fateh Din reappointed as MCMC chairman for two more years
https://www.scoop.my/news/240255/salim-fate...o-more-years-1/

MRCB tarik diri daripada konsortium HSR diketuai Berjaya Rail
https://www.bharian.com.my/bisnes/korporat/...ai-berjaya-rail

This post has been edited by JLA: Dec 28 2024, 04:28 PM

Competitive 4G = Most expensive and slowest mobile data plan in ASEAN.

5G "monopoly" = Cheapest mobile data plan even cheaper than 4G.

I rather stick to real life data instead of theory. You have to test your hypothesis and see the result. Not create a hypothesis and stick with it without any data proving it.

Good for you as long as cheap and have coverage outdoor.
Nobody knows if long term can sustain 6G and so on, otherwise government bailout.

This post has been edited by YoungMan: Dec 25 2024, 09:30 PM

Is there a timeline where the current NSA implementation will go to SA?