Unknown, but since few months ago all DNB tower enabled SA on N28 and N78. Not sure what taking them so long to launch SA commercially. Nowadays many 5G towers are heavily congested and somemore N28 and B28 is DSS. Not sure what's their next plan. Indoor coverage also only available in certain government and hospital buildings only.

how come telco can make 5G data cheaper than own 4G ?

example plan : maxis sabah, umobile borneo, celcomdigi sabah, yes 5G uncapped unlimited, unifi 5G add-ons

Sadly there is no information for that now.

Not an expert by any means but wouldn't SA be contingent on each provider supporting it on their core network?

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Latest News Update on DNB2: .......

https://www.lowyat.net/2025/341234/u-mobile...k-15-18-months/ - Vincent Tan: U Mobile To Launch Second 5G Network Within 15-18 Months
He also noted that the telco will conduct the rollout without assistance from local partners.
20 Jan 2025
U Mobile Sdn Bhd is optimistic about deploying Malaysia’s second 5G network independently within the next 15 to 18 months, according to chairman Tan Sri Vincent Tan. Speaking during a media briefing, he dismissed concerns about the company’s capability to undertake the project without government funding or local partners.

Tan highlighted plans to collaborate with Chinese telecommunications giants Huawei Technologies Co Ltd and ZTE Corp for equipment supply and financing. He noted that both companies are the best choices in terms of 5G technology, adding that U Mobile will rely on its capital expenditure and bank financing to support the rollout. However, details regarding the total capital required remain undisclosed. ...

On a related note, U Mobile last week announced the signing of a memorandum of understanding (MoU) with CIMB to secure financial support for its upcoming 5G network rollout. ....

= high value targets for the CCP like politicians, government executives, CEOs, professionals, business tycoons, journalists, etc should avoid DNB2 because it will be using Huawei and ZTE equipment from communist CCP China. Correct.? Got hidden backdoor spyware for the CCP.?

Ordinary folks = no-value targets for the CCP, should be OK using DNB2 but some of them should avoid visiting China bc the CCP can jail any foreign visitor who has vehemently condemned the CCP or Emperor Xi, like the Falungong, Serpentza, AMDKs, etc.
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This post has been edited by lurkingaround: Jan 21 2025, 04:41 PM

Put it this way, we rather think it is ok to be spy by FBI rather than CCP?

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Are you saying DNB1's Ericsson equipment from Sweden has hidden backdoor spyware for the FBI.?
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Not really, but even if so, nobody can tell right. Just like how US said to China but they do not come out with solid proof.
All this talk of CCP spy or FBI is just to itch their own. Consumer will use what ever that is to benefit them

This post has been edited by YoungMan: Jan 22 2025, 08:26 PM

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My repost below fyi, .......

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=111093531

Also, recently, .......

https://www.infosecurity-magazine.com/news/...asury-telecoms/ - US Sanctions Chinese Hackers for Treasury, Telecom Breaches - 20 Jan 2025
.... Responding to Escalating Chinese Hacks on US Infrastructure

The recent Treasury and Telecoms hacks highlight the “increasingly reckless” cyber activity by the People’s Republic of China (PRC) government and affiliated actors, OFAC said.

The latest sanctions follow several similar designations recently issued against individuals and companies connected with PRC-backed cyber-attacks on US targets. ...
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How are we certain that US do not do the same to China?

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Example, ......

https://www.computerworld.com/article/17101...nt-edition.html - For real Windows 10 privacy, you need the China Government Edition - 12 June 2017
Windows 10 is infamous for having snooping baked in, but one government stood up for user privacy. Oh, the irony!

Because Windows doesn’t make much money for Microsoft these days, the company decided, beginning in Windows 10, that snooping on users à la Google and Facebook could be profitable. But one country said enough was enough. It would stand up for its users’ “privacy.” That country? The People’s Republic of China.

Cough. Didn’t see that one coming, did you?

Well, I say “privacy” because China is infamous for tracking its computer users and censoring the internet with the Great Firewall of China. But just because the powers that be in Beijing want to know every move their citizens make doesn’t mean they want Microsoft joining in on the spying.

So China gave Microsoft a choice: Rip out its snoopware, or forget about selling Windows 10 to government or enterprise customers. Microsoft, never known for turning down a dollar or a yuan, caved. ...
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Note that the US Constitution prohibits the powerful US government from spying or invading the privacy of her citizens except for law enforcement purposes, eg against terrorists, foreign spies, organized crime syndicates, pedophiles, etc, ... besides from restricting her citizens' right to freedom of religion, freedom to bear arms, freedom of speech, freedom of the Press, freedom to protest peacefully, freedom to pursue prosperity, etc.
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Hence I said earlier, all to itch their own. Just see how many China phone, China EV are sold worldwide, over 180 million US citizens flock to Tiktok due to distrust for their own social media platform.
I think I will stop here, not to digress too much from the 5G discussion.

Back in 2022, when the US exited Russian market they were known to have the ability to remotely disable all their network equipments in Russia and turning on the kill switches before they fall into the hands of the Russians.

China network modernization is slowly removing all US branded telco switching and routing equipments from their national networks today for security reasons.

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5505893

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https://dgap.org/en/research/publications/i...lecoms-industry - DGAP Analysis - The Impact and Limits of Sanctions on Russia’s Telecoms Industry
Maria Kolomychenko - 12 March 2024
.... I explain how the Russian telecoms sector functions, the reasons behind its total reliance on Western technology, and how it manages to survive under sanctions. I then examine three vectors that the Russian telecommunications industry is currently pursuing in detail:

- The continuation of the purchase of advanced Western telecom equipment using so-called gray or parallel imports
- The search for new suppliers in Asia and the forging of stronger ties with second-tier (“tier 2”) suppliers from countries that have not joined export restrictions toward Russia
- Attempts to stimulate the production of domestic telecom equipment and the transition of telecom operators to its use

This analysis lays out why large telecom operators in Russia are not ready to risk their business and experiment with unknown equipment. Instead, they willingly take advantage of the government’s permission to “parallel import” the necessary equipment. As a result, despite the withdrawal of global vendors like Cisco, Nokia, and Ericsson from the Russian market, their equipment worth tens of millions of dollars is still supplied to Russia. While these are huge figures in absolute terms, far more is needed to fully meet the industry’s needs. ...
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So, how come Russia has been buying US$ millions of USA's Cisco equipment via parallel imports using 3rd-party countries like China and Israel.?
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Also, hidden kill switches =/= hidden backdoor spyware, and ...

"killing" subscription-based cloud services =/= hidden backdoor spyware.
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Russia is still buying Cisco equipment today? You got to be kidding right? Why would they need to when then can easily obtained OpenRAN products directly from OEM China vendors and code their own?

They won't even touch Cisco's or Western coded firmwares because anyday you never know when it's going to be taken down remotely or malfunctioned due to hidden backdoors intentionally implanted in them.

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Fyi, .......

https://www.business-humanrights.org/en/lat...cl-co-comments/ - 17 Oct 2022
Author:
James Rogers, MarketWatch
Cisco ended operations in Russia, but its gear allegedly being shipped through China & other countries; incl. co. comments
Cisco gear is being shipped into Russia from China and other countries, leaked customs database shows, 17 October 2022

A purportedly leaked Russian customs database shows around 500 shipments of Cisco gear arriving in Russia in August, months after the networking giant halted its business operations in that country.

Information extracted from the database and shared with MarketWatch appears to show that Cisco Systems Inc. products entered Russia from a number of countries, with the majority of shipments coming from China. Other countries of origin include Vietnam, Switzerland, Mexico, Malaysia, Australia, Thailand and Holland, as well as the U.S., according to the data.

In the wake of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine in February, a host of major U.S. corporations, including Cisco, ended their Russian operations...

“On March 3, 2022, Cisco announced stopping all business operations in Russia and Belarus, including sales and services,” a Cisco spokesperson told MarketWatch via email. “This included discontinuing business with all Cisco partners and distributors in Russia and Belarus, which means they can no longer source products via authorized channels.

“On June 23, we announced the decision to begin an orderly wind-down of our business in Russia and Belarus,” the Cisco spokesperson added. “Cisco stands by this decision”... ....
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https://www.wsj.com/articles/inside-the-gra...russia-23b60391 - Inside the Gray Market Keeping Cisco Tech in Stock in Russia
Nearly a year after it stopped selling routers and other equipment, Cisco’s gear remains easy to buy - 14 Feb 2023
Weeks after Moscow invaded Ukraine, tech giant Cisco Systems Inc. stopped all sales of its hardware into Russia, and Washington issued a series of broad sanctions against the country, including restricting the sale of Cisco equipment.

As the war approaches its first anniversary, that same gear is still easy to find at a range of retailers in Moscow. It is being supplied by a network of third-party vendors in places like Turkey and Asia that have sprung up without Cisco’s authorization and are largely out of reach of American enforcement.

The U.S. has chided countries like Turkey and China for supplying Russia with gear that is aiding Moscow’s war effort or cushioning the blow of Western sanctions. But Western goods—while greatly curtailed—are still pouring into the country, too.

Tracking how Cisco products still make it into the country helps take measure of the difficulty in isolating Russia economically.

From March to November, Russia imported $12.4 billion worth of goods subject to sanctions or export bans from the West, including the sort of telecommunications equipment that Cisco provides, according to an analysis of customs data from 31 countries by Brussels-based think tank Bruegel. ...
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This post has been edited by lurkingaround: Jan 23 2025, 11:49 PM

Back in 2022? Isn't that old news? Why would they need to when there's OpenRAN(ORAN) now which uses open sourced firmware which they can sourced OEM equipment directly from China instead where the parts are manufactured?

OpenRAN (O-RAN) for 5G explained: - 5G Networks
https://www.5g-networks.net/openran-o-ran-for-5g-explained/

Cisco exit will drive Russia further into China's embrace
https://www.lightreading.com/routing-switch...china-s-embrace

Telecommunications Industry in Russia - Statistics & Facts (Sept 2024)
https://www.statista.com/topics/10390/telec...stry-in-russia/

What’s behind the rise of Chinese brands on the Russian electronics market (and how you can use it)
https://yandex.com/adv/news/what-s-behind-t...-you-can-use-it

I yielded very little results using Google and Bing on this subject so I decided Yandex was a better way to find out about Russia. Many of their locally established network companies are rarely heard of outside and they sourced sophisticated core switching equipment now from China.

https://aeroleads.com/list/top-telecommunic...anies-in-russia
https://techbehemoths.com/companies/telecom/russia
https://www.statista.com/topics/10390/telec...stry-in-russia/

Try going more to Russian Youtube alternatives to read more on their latest developments.

Rostelecom Russia's largest telecom company closest development partner is Huawei.

https://rutube.ru/video/379f4123a08f81f5572151da542e3d80/

DNB and EDOTCO successfully deploy 5G in-building coverage at KLIA Terminal 1 and Terminal 2



Travellers flying via KLIA Terminal 1 and Terminal 2 (aka KLIA 2) can look forward to improved 5G connectivity indoors as Digital Nasional Berhad (DNB) and EDOTCO Group have announced the successful completion of the airports’ 5G In-Building Solutions (IBS). The new milestone is said to mark a significant step in enhancing connectivity and improving the digital experience for travellers and visitors as Malaysia begins its ASEAN Chairmanship this year.


The IBS installation was completed within two months and was activated on Friday during the handover ceremony between DNB, EDOTCO and Malaysia Airports Holdings Berhad (MAHB).

EDOTCO is Malaysia Airports’ preferred partner in deploying telco infrastructure within the 10km x 10km radius of KLIA area. As of January 2025, EDOTCO has successfully delivered 52 5G in-building connectivity solutions across Terminal 1 and Terminal 2 along with 9 outdoor 5G poles, to provide enhanced connectivity throughout the KLIA vicinity.

With 5G IBS, users can enjoy faster and reliable connectivity in public and commercial buildings. The indoor coverage also enables businesses and enterprises to implement new 5G use cases to improve operational efficiency and deliver better value to their customers.

One of the showcased 5G use cases is a 5G-AI powered autonomous last-mile delivery robot by local technology developer eMooVit and CelcomDigi. When deployed, these solutions are capable of ensuring safe, efficient and timely delivery of goods or luggage, which would help reduce cost and reliance on manual labour. As a result, the airport can benefit from improved customer experience with contactless and dependable logistics, while promoting sustainability from lower carbon emissions.

According to DNB, they currently have 5G IBS at a total of 73 sites covering strategic and government facilities. This includes Senai International Airport, Penang International Airport, Setia Spice Arena, Setia Spice Convention Centre, KOMTAR, KL Sentral, Institut Jantung Negara (IJN), PPUM, PPUKM, Hospital Putrajaya, Hospital Selayang, Hospital Sg Buloh, Hospital Shah Alam, and various Urban Transformation Centres (UTCs).

DNB CEO Datuk Azman said, “Through collaboration with Mobile Network Operators (MNOs) and building owners, DNB’s key focus this year is to enhance 5G indoor coverage and connectivity. The installation at KLIA and KLIA2 is a significant milestone, with plans to extend 5G IBS to other key locations.”

Meanwhile, EDOTCO Group CEO, Adlan Tajudin said, “Our commitment to providing innovative, sustainable infrastructure augurs well with Malaysia’s vision of becoming a digital hub. The activation of 5G IBS at KLIA and KLIA2 marks another significant step forward in our journey, and together, we are paving the way for seamless, reliable connectivity that supports both economic growth and an enhanced user experience.”

Malaysia Airports CIO, VijayKumar Dayinde said, “The integration of 5G infrastructure in KLIA is a transformative upgrade that enhances operational efficiency and passenger convenience by leveraging 5G’s speed, low latency, and high data capacity. It supports IoT devices, smart sensors, and advanced digital solutions, enabling us to meet evolving demands while prioritising efficiency, satisfaction, and resilience.”

https://www.ericsson.com/en/press-releases/...nced-capability

Anyone can test?

Interesting, still 5G NSA in my area.