Very true example Digi Celcom merger since they both one coverage for both network now far better. Hope MCMC and Ministry deploy / force MOCN to get good 4G experience without just adding to many towers
Yes it's time to move on 5G SA network on 2nd network also implement Voiceover NR ( Vo5G)

This current 5G is a good example, all telco will have 5G at the same location because they use the same infra. Hence with the break up of DNB later, MCMC should also get both DNB1 and DNB2 to continue with this practice.

MNO selection for second 5G network to be done by year-end - Gobind
BERNAMA

KUALA LUMPUR: The process of selecting the mobile network operator (MNO) for the transition to the 5G dual wholesale network (DWN) model is expected to be completed by the end of this year, said Digital Minister Gobind Singh Deo.

He said all the conditions of the share subscription agreement (SSA) have been fulfilled by all the MNOs, and the Malaysian Communications and Multimedia Commission (MCMC) is looking forward to starting the selection process, which is the second stage towards the decision on who will develop the next 5G network.

“They (MCMC) were not been given a time frame for the process but I hope it could start moving before the end of this year,” he told reporters at the launch of TNG Digital Sdn Bhd’s gold investment product, e-Mas, today.



https://thesun.my/local-news/mno-selection-...bind-FA12656056

Went to Lowyat to fix my phone. Surprisingly the 5G speed is way slower than 4G+ despite repeating conducted the 5G speedtest

We really need another 5G network in cities to free up some of the DNB capacity

This post has been edited by jasontanky: Jul 3 2024, 12:02 PM

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Probably because more subscribers have upgraded to 5G from 4G, believing they would always get faster speed than 4G but instead they themselves caused more network congestion on mid-band 5G = they get slower speed than 4G.
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Fyi, the upcoming transition is 5G NSA ---> 5G SA ---> 5G Advanced = you will need to buy new phones to get 5G-A or 5G+ = Planned Obsolescence.? .......

https://www.androidauthority.com/5g-advance...lained-3430001/ - What is 5G Advanced and when will it release?
5G already has a semi-replacement on the horizon, here's what to expect from it.
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I'm bit suspicious with that 7Mbps upload. Does everyone have that 7Mbps upload problem as well? Because sometimes I have that problem.

This post has been edited by OfficiallyAhmad: Jul 3 2024, 02:16 PM

The upload can go beyond 100Mbps at certain locations

I see, I guess it just random problem with my Yes FT5G Unlimited Plan then

Because eventhough we only see the word 4G/5G, cellular technology have its own "update" system. That system is update using "Release". Release 15 is 5G, Release 18 is 5G Advanced. So the modem need to support the Release to use that Release feature.

This post has been edited by OfficiallyAhmad: Jul 3 2024, 02:25 PM

Theory A:
The area is getting congested which is happening because the lack of base station densification.

Theory B:
The device is only connected to DNB 700MHz low band which in theory can only receive 50Mbps - 100Mbps of speed which is what the Speedtest has shown.

This is just my assumption and theory. What happen is CelcomDigi have a bit of densitification than DNB in that area.

If we see the map below, CelcomDigi have 2 base stations available while DNB have only 1 base station and it is a bit far and blocked by the building nearby which make the signal fading.

Also using lower frequency of 1.8Ghz, the device can do carrier aggregation using the band available in CelcomDigi.

There is a high chance that the device is also not even using DNB 3.5GHz but instead use 700Mhz only which have the typical speed of 50Mbps - 100Mbps in 20MHz bandwidth range. If my theory is true, you pretty much get almost peak b28 frequency capability.

The only way to confirm this theory is true is someone having rooted Android phone with Network Signal Guru installed and see the data itself or you/someone can move closer to the base station and see if you get higher speed that reach beyond 100Mbps. Using this method we can confirm if the problem is theory A or theory B.


Celcom base station


DNB base station

The solution in my opinion is for DNB to introduce more basetation closer to lowyat so atleast the n78 frequency can go through the building or maybe just build DAS inside lowyat building.

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This is me just sharing brain dead oppinion. Since DNB is an MOCN. Getting 60Mbps speed in dense area is kinda impressive since it hold all of the telco capacity in 1 base station only.

Especially if we put in context that currently DNB is in "Phase 1" of just laying out the basic 5G coverage only and no densification is done yet.

Which in my opinion, already fill it roles greatly, now DNB just to put more base station and see how it goes.

This post has been edited by OfficiallyAhmad: Jul 3 2024, 03:35 PM

Or maybe because 4G get offloaded as well, since the people there mostly have 5G phone, there is a chance that 4G capacity get a major breathing space which ironically makes it faster than 5G.

i have to agree with you on this.

Telcos are not interested to setup their coverage in low return areas. They are business entities, not charity. This explains the gap in 4G coverage.

Some form of government intervention is needed.

Take rural Sarawak for example. Some areas only have few remote rumah panjang with families up to 100-200 people. No telco would want to setup coverage there.

Your assumption was my assumption, but nope

It is connected to the n78, without n78 it was much worse and unbearable and no 5G DAS nor pRRU was deployed. Pretty much rely on outdoor coverage

The indoor coverage of CelcomDigi was integrated, and I got 3CA of B7+B7+B3. Total of 2x60MHz.

Maxis has also B1+B3+B7 3CA and getting around 200Mbps when inside the building.

5G congestion is really a thing now here in the metropolitan part of KL. Sometimes it could be quite unbearable during peak hour

This post has been edited by jasontanky: Jul 3 2024, 04:21 PM

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There's 2 major problems on the DNB 5G network

1. Only prioritize on population coverage. There are certain areas despite lack of ''residential areas'' but are trunk roads but show close to 0 coverage if no residential areas close to it. For example, the north south highway.
2. Poor to no indoor coverage deployment

It reminded me of U Mobile during the early day (about 10 years ago). Pretty much no indoor coverage deployed. Even if there's 3G or 4G indoor, it basically just signal from outdoor penetrates through the building. The network become very congested during peak hour because there was no in-building coverage offloading the network from the outdoor antenna

This post has been edited by jasontanky: Jul 3 2024, 04:38 PM

It seems Theory A is the problem. DNB really need to speed up rolling out their indoors 5G DAS. I'm not sure what building that have indoor 5G DAS in Malaysia currently because I never seen one.

And based on your experience, all that UE in peak time is really choking on that one base station which prove to be to much to handle.


Note:
I heard that the goverment parliament building have 5G DAS but I can't verify it myself.

This post has been edited by OfficiallyAhmad: Jul 3 2024, 05:35 PM

5G Connectivity In Malaysia Reaches 81.7 %

The 5G coverage in populated areas across Malaysia has now reached 81.7%, with 7,114 5G sites established nationwide, the Dewan Rakyat was informed today (July 3).



Deputy Minister of Communications Teo Nie Ching stated that the current focus for constructing the 5G network is on urban areas with high economic activity. However, expansion into other areas, including rural regions, has begun and will continue periodically.

Teo’s remarks were in response to Hassan Saad (PN-Baling), who inquired about the government’s plan to build more substations to enhance high-speed internet access (5G) in rural areas.

The current 5G rollout is concentrated in urban areas with high economic activity.

However, the Nie Ching confirmed that efforts to extend coverage to rural and less populated regions have begun and will continue progressively.

She assured that expanding 5G infrastructure to rural areas remains a priority as part of the government’s commitment to improving internet access nationwide.

In response to a supplementary question from Dr. Mohammed Taufiq Johari (PH-Sungai Petani) about complaint channels for coverage issues, Teo mentioned that complaints can be filed through the Malaysian Communications and Multimedia Commission (MCMC) WhatsApp hotline at 0162206262 or via the Commission’s website.

For members of Parliament, Teo noted that complaints can also be lodged at the MCMC Complaint Counter available at the Parliament building.

Run as non profit? LOL... bro, is there anything commercial that are being run non profit? Be realistic.

I think it is important to have a 2nd 5G network if they are planning to shutdown 4G network in near future. Otherwise DNB would be the only backbone for telecommunication and if it breaks down, hell breaks lose.