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post Oct 24 2023, 04:39 AM, updated 2 months ago

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We’re all thinking about it: Proton S70 launch date?


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## 🏢 Company Profile – PROTON EDAR SDN. BHD.

Field Details
**Company Name** PROTON EDAR SDN. BHD.
**Company Registration No.** 0133533A / 198501001087
**Nature of Business** - Sale of motor vehicles and related spare parts and accessories <br> - Business of assemblers of motor vehicles and all kinds of carriage of passengers and goods <br> - To buy, sell, repair, let to hire, alter and deal in motor cars, machineries, parts, accessories and fittings of all kinds of motors
**Date of Registration** ***** 1985-01-16 *****
**State** Selangor





Premium version includes:


No. Feature
1 Front Parking Sensor (x2)
2 Reverse Cam
3 LED Headlights
4 Leatherette Steering
5 Leatherette Seat
6 Rear Center Armrest
7 Auto Aircon
8 Auto Fold Mirror
9 Rear Bar Tail Light






26 FEB 1992
[PROTON,5304] PROTON HOLDINGS BERHAD
listed on the Main Board of the Kuala Lumpur Stock Exchange


MAY 2000
PROTON launched the Proton Waja, the first Malaysian car to be fully developed locally.



2003
PROTON opened its second manufacturing plant in Tanjung Malim which equipped with the latest manufacturing systems and technology.


6 FEB 2004
PROTON launched the Proton Gen.2, which powered by the 1.6-litre CamPro engine and was built on a homegrown platform developed in-house.



15 AUG 2007
PROTON launched the Proton Persona, a sedan re-engineered and optimized from existing platform.


AUG 2008
Rollout of Proton’s 3 millionth car – a new Saga - from the PROTON’s plant in Shah Alam.


10 NOV 2010
PROTON launched the Proton Inspira, a performance-oriented saloon and the first Proton car to feature paddle shifters.


***** 16 MAY 2012 *****
PROTON became one of the members of DRB-HICOM Berhad,1619



🔁 Sold to DRB-HICOM

Date of Acquisition: 16 May 2012

DRB-HICOM Berhad acquired PROTON from Khazanah Nasional, the investment arm of the Malaysian government.

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📆 How Many Years Under Malaysia Government Ownership?

From 16 January 1985 to 16 May 2012

Total: 27 years and 4 months




On 23 June 2017, Geely acquired a 49.9% stake in PROTON.

The remaining 50.1% was still held by DRB-HICOM.

Geely also took a majority stake (51%) in Lotus, which was owned by PROTON.




23 JUN 2017
DRB-HICOM BHD entered a strategic partnership with China Zhejiang Geely Holding Group Co, Ltd. in PROTON.


12 DEC 2018
Launch of the Proton X70, PROTON’s first premium SUV which infused with new intelligent technology.


2019
Launch of the

2019 Proton Saga, Proton Persona,
Proton Exora and Proton Iriz,

which packed with intelligent connectivity technology.





Geely put what inside????




The Proton S70 will be launched on November 28th (Tuesday).



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25 November 2023(Sat) ????


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Proton has started a countdown to the official launch of the Proton S70 sedan. The time is 4.30 pm and the date is November 28, which is seven days from now.





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S70 is c - segment car?



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This Volvo S80 became a Geely Emgrand and later transformed into the Proton S70.





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Difference between Oct 25, 2023 and Nov 18, 2023

25 Calendar Days


Countdown!!!!!





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Feature Specification
Seating Capacity 5 Seats
Transmission Type D-CVT
Engine 1500
Power 110(550) / 5500




Entertainment & Communication Availability
Display Size 12.3 Inch or 8 inch
Apple Carplay/Android Auto have
USB & Auxiliary Input have
Bluetooth Connectivity have
FM/AM/Radio have
Speakers Front have
Speakers Rear have
No Of Speakers 4 (executive and premium) or 6 (flahship and flagship X
Multi-function Steering Wheel have
Integrated 2DIN Audio have
Touch Screen have




Chassis
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Assembly Malaysia
Type Unibody
Front Suspension MacPherson Strut
Rear Suspension Torsion Beam
Front Wheels 215/55 R16
Rear Wheels 215/55 R16
Front Brakes Ventilated Disc
Rear Brakes Solid Disc
Steering Rack and Pinion (Electric Power Steering)
Chassis Notes -




Drivetrain
Type Dual-clutch Automatic (Wet)
Transmission Name 7 D-CVT
Ratios 7
Manufacturer Geely
Driveline Front Wheel Drive
Performance And Efficiency
0-100 km/h -
Rated Economy 6.5 L/100 km (Internal)
Top Speed -
CO2 -



No. Color
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1 Snow White
2 Armour Silver
3 Space Grey
4 Passion Red
5 Marine Blue
6 Teal Bayou Green
7 Quartz Black






Specification 16" Option 17" Option
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Wheel Type Alloy Alloy
Wheel Size 16" 17"
Tyre Size 205/55 R16 205/50 R17
Spare Tyre Size 16" 17"



Specification Value
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Transmission Type Dual Clutch
Fuel Type Petrol
Seating Capacity 5 Seats
Power 181 hp
Engine Displacement 1500 cc



Specification Measurement
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Fuel Tank Capacity (litres) 50 L
Turning Radius 5.5 m
No Of Doors 5
Seating Capacity 5 Seats


Specification Measurement (mm) Weight (kg)
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Length 4,580 -
Width 1,748 -
Height 1,467 -
Wheelbase 2,600 -
Tread Front 1,495 -
Tread Rear 1,483 -
Curb Weight 1,125 -
Boot Capacity (litre) 519 -


Title Proton S70 Specifications
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Engine 1.5 L Multi-Point Injection (MPI) Engine
Configuration In-line 3 Cylinder 12 Valve DOHC
Fuel Supply System Multi-Point Injection (MPI)
No Of Cylinders 3
Valve Configuration DOHC
Turbocharger/Supercharger Turbocharged





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As we know, Proton's CEO Dr Li Chunrong said in early September that the new Proton model will be released in two months' time. So based on his timeline, we are looking at a launch date of around the


1st or 2nd week of November. That is just a fortnight away.

18 November (Saturday) ?
11 November (Saturday) ???

18.11.2023 ?

11.11.2023 ???



Variant Price (RM)
Executive 73,800
Premium 79,800
Flagship 89,800
Flagship X 94,800


Possible Proton S70 specification.

The Proton S70 is likely to be equipped with the 1.5 liter TGDi turbocharged three-cylinder engine - same as its compatriot the X50 & X70, with DCT gearbox powering the wheels. Also expected to be included is the standard ADAS safety system.

The million dollar question: Proton S70 price?

You must have googled ‘Proton X70 expected price’ at least once right? No one knows, but we do have an idea. If we look at the three Japanese models mentioned above - The City, Vios and Almera.


These cars' price range are almost the same -

From RM 73 K - RM 95 K with the exception of City 1.5L e:HEV RS which is priced at RM 111k.

The price of Proton S70 will likely be in the same competitive

RM 73 K -RM 95 k range,

though it wouldn't hurt us if Proton prices it slightly lower from Rm 70k onwards.

So, would you like to get your hands on the Proton S70?

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no1 thinking about it silly
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Waiting to see if there will be a steel wheel option for taxis
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post Oct 24 2023, 05:49 AM

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Dimension is not correct. The car is wider than that. 1748mm is like vios size only.
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if really 181hp i think proton will win many youngsters heart.... myvi will no longer hold the KING
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Why the design looks so old school ?
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post Oct 24 2023, 06:50 AM

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Beautiful car impressive spec for money as long don't catch fire and got spare part ok la, nowaday potong catching fire like nobodies business
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post Oct 24 2023, 06:53 AM

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My SA said launch on 18.

1.5 TGDI
Feature ikut macam X90
Got 4 variant
Executive, Premium, Flagship and Flagship X
Price range estimated 70-110k

Let wait and see.

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turbo charged? lelz kek
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post Oct 24 2023, 07:11 AM

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QUOTE(MmeBox @ Oct 24 2023, 06:53 AM)
My SA said launch on 18.

1.5 TGDI
Feature ikut macam X90
Got 4 variant
Executive, Premium, Flagship and Flagship X
Price range estimated 70-110k

Let wait and see.
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18 november (saturday)?


If 70K toyota vios ,honda city also kalah..

I think at least 88K.

High chance at least 95k....
Many insider said one..

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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Oct 24 2023, 06:27 AM)
Why the design looks so old school ?
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30 percent like BMW

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181hp macam already level mazda3, civic n altis

displacement also size around civic

price point ill guess should be at 90k to 120k
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QUOTE(lordgamer3 @ Oct 24 2023, 06:50 AM)
Beautiful car impressive spec for money as long don't catch fire and got spare part ok la, nowaday potong catching fire like nobodies business
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Anehneh as usual can complain only but offer nothing. 😅
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QUOTE(exorthexquas @ Oct 24 2023, 07:04 AM)
turbo charged? lelz kek
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Why? Plotong already licensed the 1.5 Turbocharged DCT engine from Geely/Bolvo. Might as well use that.
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Oct 24 2023, 07:20 AM)
Why? Plotong already licensed the 1.5 Turbocharged DCT engine from Geely/Bolvo. Might as well use that.
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damn, but turbo charged 1.5 up to 181 hp means easily 90k+
but turbo charged got pros/con when it comes to maintenance..
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Oct 24 2023, 04:39 AM)
We’re all thinking about it: Proton S70 launch date?

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Color Option         
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Crystal Black Pearl 
Modern Steel Metallic
Lunar Silver Metallic
Platinum White Pearl 
Passion Red Pearl   
Specification    15" Option  16" Option 
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Wheel Type        Alloy        Alloy       
Wheel Size        15"          16"         
Tyre Size        185/60R15    185/55R16   
Spare Tyre Size  15"          15"         
Specification        Value         
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Transmission Type    Dual Clutch   
Fuel Type            Petrol       
Seating Capacity    5 Seats       
Power                181 hp       
Engine Displacement  1500 cc       
Specification                Measurement
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Fuel Tank Capacity (litres)  40 L     
Turning Radius              5.5 m     
No Of Doors                  5         
Seating Capacity            5 Seats   
Specification        Measurement (mm) Weight (kg)
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Length                4,580            -         
Width                1,748            -         
Height                1,467            -         
Wheelbase            2,600            -         
Tread Front          1,495            -         
Tread Rear            1,483            -         
Curb Weight          1,125            -         
Boot Capacity (litre) 519              -         
Title                  Proton S70 Specifications       
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Engine                1.5L Petrol Engine             
Configuration          In-line 3 Cylinder 12 Valve DOHC
Fuel Supply System    Direct Injection               
No Of Cylinders        3                               
Valves Per Cylinder    4                               
Valve Configuration    DOHC                           
Turbocharger/Supercharger Turbocharged                 
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As we know, Proton's CEO Dr Li Chunrong  said in early September that the new Proton model will be released in two months' time. So based on his timeline, we are looking at a launch date of around the
1st or 2nd week of November. That is just a fortnight away.

18 November (Saturday) ?
11 November (Saturday) ???

18.11.2023 ?

11.11.2023 ???

Title            Price (RM) 
-----------------  ---------- 
Proton S70                   
1                RM 95,000 
2                RM 100,000 
3                RM 110,000 
4                RM 120,000 
Possible Proton S70 specification.

The Proton S70 is likely to be equipped with the 1.5 liter TGDi turbocharged three-cylinder engine - same as its compatriot the X50 & X70, with DCT gearbox powering the wheels. Also expected to be included is the standard ADAS safety system.

The million dollar question: Proton S70 price?

You must have googled ‘Proton X70 expected price’ at least once right? No one knows, but we do have an idea. If we look at the three Japanese models mentioned above - The City, Vios and Almera.
These cars' price range are almost the same -

From RM 83k - RM 99k, with the exception of City 1.5L e:HEV RS which is priced at RM 111k.

The price of Proton S70 will likely be in the same competitive

RM 80k -RM 90k range,

though it wouldn't hurt us if Proton prices it slightly lower from Rm 70k onwards.

So, would you like to get your hands on the Proton S70?
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Maybe 18 November coz 11 November is day befoee Deepavali.

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Rear looks like Kia
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price cannot be more than 60k for base model, else DOA.
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Honda Civic

Nissan Altima

Mazda CX-5

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QUOTE(DM3 @ Oct 24 2023, 07:33 AM)
Rear looks like Kia
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I feel like BMW

Front and back



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3 cylinders ?
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QUOTE(killdavid @ Oct 24 2023, 07:37 AM)
3 cylinders ?
/k says its a glorified vibrating massage chair
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/k just tokok only. In the end all using myvi axia
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QUOTE(extrememech @ Oct 24 2023, 06:20 AM)
if really 181hp i think proton will win many youngsters heart.... myvi will no longer hold the KING
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Myvi is just a hype for marketing. Myvi is women and girl car surely good sales because women is die hard shopper.
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QUOTE(killdavid @ Oct 24 2023, 07:37 AM)
3 cylinders ?
/k says its a glorified vibrating massage chair
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with in built vibrator
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the fast and furious ----> way


btw sure will be 80-120k . if not i potong kuku

no chance of it being 60/70k even for the base model . keep dreaming.

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Oct 24 2023, 07:36 AM)
I feel like BMW

Front and back
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I mean this cerato 2020,so far Sg only brought in

https://www.drive.com.au/reviews/2020-kia-c...t-manual-sedan/

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30 percent like BMW
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Oct 24 2023, 07:11 AM)
18 november (saturday)?
If 70K toyota vios ,honda city also kalah..

I think at least 88K.

High chance at least 95k....
Many insider said one..
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No use la. China tech engine drink petrol like water. 1.5 turbo but drink more petrol than bmw 2.0 turbo
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Design feel so dated
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it looks like a BMW clone car LOL ...very old style
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QUOTE(sexysarah1992 @ Oct 24 2023, 08:03 AM)
No use la. China tech engine drink petrol like water. 1.5 turbo but drink more petrol than bmw 2.0 turbo
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X50,x70,x90 all like that?
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QUOTE(Pugbunny @ Oct 24 2023, 08:11 AM)
Design feel so dated
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But bmw 3 series 2022 also like that wor
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Oct 24 2023, 07:35 AM)
Dead or alive?
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Dead on arrival
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QUOTE(MegaCanonF @ Oct 24 2023, 07:53 AM)
the fast and furious ----> way
btw sure will be 80-120k . if not i potong kuku

no chance of it being 60/70k even for the base model . keep dreaming.
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Title Price (RM)
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Proton S70
1 RM 95,000
2 RM 100,000
3 RM 110,000
4 RM 120,000
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Oct 24 2023, 08:15 AM)
X50,x70,x90 all like that?
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Yup. Cannot fight the germans in terms of fuel efficiency let alone the Japanese.

QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Oct 24 2023, 08:16 AM)
But bmw 3 series 2022 also like that wor
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The 3 series design is so much nicer than this S70. This looks like ur typical china car
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QUOTE(sexysarah1992 @ Oct 24 2023, 08:18 AM)
Yup. Cannot fight the germans in terms of fuel efficiency let alone the Japanese.
The 3 series design is so much nicer than this S70. This looks like ur typical china car
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It is challenging to match the Germans and the Japanese in terms of fuel efficiency.

Both German and Japanese vehicles are known for their fuel-efficient designs, making it difficult for others to compete with them in this aspect.

Nowadays south korea car also fuel efficiency right?

Volvo Cars is a Swedish multinational manufacturer of luxury vehicles headquartered in Torslanda, Gothenburg.

Volvo not fuel efficiency?

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The design at the back looks so old school. Bring back Perdana!
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Oct 24 2023, 08:17 AM)
| Title            | Price (RM)  |
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Proton S70                   
1                RM 95,000 
2                RM 100,000 
3                RM 110,000 
4                RM 120,000 
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Damn. Such pricing for a national car that’s protected
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QUOTE(max_cjs0101 @ Oct 24 2023, 08:50 AM)
Hopefully its RM70K and above
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Proton S70 price(to be confirmed)
Variant Price (RM)
Executive 95,000
Premium 100,000
Flagship 110,000
Flagship X 120,000

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No more china product fr me their product very fast no spare part just like my xiaomi phone 2 years no more spare liao
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Oct 24 2023, 09:51 AM)
| Variant        | Price (RM)  |
Executive      95,000     
Premium        100,000   
Flagship        110,000   
Flagship X      120,000   
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Topkek….

Might as well buy japanese JDM car 😅🤣🤣


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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Oct 24 2023, 09:17 AM)
| Title             | Price (RM)  |
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Proton S70                   
1                 RM 95,000  
2                 RM 100,000 
3                 RM 110,000 
4                 RM 120,000 
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Seriously at this price point will fight with Chyna BYD ev dolphin standard and extended range.

Might as well ev terus

And we all know BYD is a giant in Chyna car manufacturer. No 4 biggest in the world.

Even geely is no match for byd market capitalization right now

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Why the design looks so old school ?
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Oct 24 2023, 09:00 AM)
Seriously at this price point will fight with Chyna BYD ev dolphin standard and extended range.

Might as well ev terus

And we all know BYD is a giant in Chyna car manufacturer. No 4 biggest in the world.

Even geely is no match for byd market capitalization right now
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If 90% of new home owners stay in apartment and need to travel outstation , why would they get EV.

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It is challenging to match the Germans and the Japanese in terms of fuel efficiency.

Both German and Japanese vehicles are known for their fuel-efficient designs, making it difficult for others to compete with them in this aspect.

Nowadays south korea car also fuel efficiency right?

Volvo Cars is a Swedish multinational manufacturer of luxury vehicles headquartered in Torslanda, Gothenburg.

Volvo not fuel efficiency?
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Oct 24 2023, 09:00 AM)
Seriously at this price point will fight with Chyna BYD ev dolphin standard and extended range.

Might as well ev terus

And we all know BYD is a giant in Chyna car manufacturer. No 4 biggest in the world.

Even geely is no match for byd market capitalization right now
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EV bandwagon most car manufacture jump blindly. Better look for alternative fuel source. EV roi for pollution need to keep car at least 100k miles to justify the lithium mining co2 etc setupid evs
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Oct 24 2023, 08:57 AM)
Topkek….

Might as well buy japanese JDM car 😅🤣🤣
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But this one actually is Volvo car.

Just rebadged
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from rebadged mitsubishis to rebadged geelys
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https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=5413177&hl=

You can discuss here
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QUOTE(MmeBox @ Oct 24 2023, 06:53 AM)
My SA said launch on 18.

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Feature ikut macam X90
Got 4 variant
Executive, Premium, Flagship and Flagship X
Price range estimated 70-110k

Let wait and see.
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Seriously

The looks seems edgy now,
But really give the vibe of old lexuses

Like those old Lexus, where you see the grille with the L
But the car was like meh!

Really unkle-ish feel to the design

Won't sit well after eol
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QUOTE(mcchin @ Oct 24 2023, 09:12 AM)
Seriously

The looks seems edgy now,
But really give the vibe of old lexuses

Like those old Lexus, where you see the grille with the L
But the car was like meh!

Really unkle-ish feel to the design

Won't sit well after eol
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EOL ?
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Lower than x50 I buy, higher then X50 skip
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S70 price(to be confirmed)
Variant Price (RM)
Executive 95,000
Premium 100,000
Flagship 110,000
Flagship X 120,000


Some variants of the S70 car model may be cheaper than the X50 1.5 TGDI flagship variant (RM 103,300), while some variants of the S70 may be more expensive than the X50.

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EOL ?
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End of life

Like the xe20 Lexus is250
It is both impressive and meh of a car
The next iteration is better as it has more character

This give me the same feeling
Like wow and meh at the same time
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Goverment will make it as ministers official car or not?
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this is saga replacement model?
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Preve
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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ Oct 24 2023, 09:32 AM)
Preve
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Preve no replacement

This car more than 90K

Now proton have 2 direction

Cheap and expensive

Saga
Persona
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Campro

Vs


X70
X50
X90
S70


Volvo geely

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QUOTE(nebula87 @ Oct 24 2023, 09:19 AM)
PM for price of 2 units
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RM 180,000
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i'd rather go buy a used inspira
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Volvo vs Mitsubishi Motors Corporation

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40L tank, everyday pump twice
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proton saga also 40l tank.
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QUOTE(mcchin @ Oct 24 2023, 09:12 AM)
Seriously

The looks seems edgy now,
But really give the vibe of old lexuses

Like those old Lexus, where you see the grille with the L
But the car was like meh!

Really unkle-ish feel to the design

Won't sit well after eol
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Yup, no wow factor.
It does looks meh to me too.

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Oct 24 2023, 09:42 AM)
Why?

Volvo vs Mitsubishi Motors Corporation
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say this is volvo nanti kena whack

where got volvo with 1.5L 3 cylinder engine punya.. rclxub.gif
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say this is volvo nanti kena whack

where got volvo with 1.5L 3 cylinder engine punya.. rclxub.gif
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GEELY married Volvo in 2010, and the obvious children of that union are the Coolray, Okavango and the Emgrand.



Of these cars, it is the Emgrand that adopted the Volvo DNA by a genetic infusion.




The Emgrand, (also known as its numerics, the GC9) incorporates design elements and technology derived from Volvo, including a similar front grille design and its platform is


based on the S80.



The car benefits from Volvo’s expertise in developing advanced safety technologies, as well as its no-nonsense but stylish designs. It is often referred to as a brand that combines affordability, luxury, and performance.

Volvo S80


Sorry.just updated


It is 1.6L and 2.0L

4 cylinder
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QUOTE(Mr_47 @ Oct 24 2023, 09:44 AM)
if 90 k go buy 88 city with 0 downpayment promo der
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City nowadays also topkek quality like potong

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What happen to Proton?

National car but price totally not local friendly lol
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Oct 24 2023, 08:49 AM)
say this is volvo nanti kena whack

where got volvo with 1.5L 3 cylinder engine punya.. rclxub.gif
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Engine will be using Geely develop. But car chassis will be using same as Volvo S60. So Proton S70 A pillar will be very very strong.



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if really 181hp i think proton will win many youngsters heart.... myvi will no longer hold the KING
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myvi king is not only based on the horse power... but its price range..

its affordable for the people aged 20-30.. the look is sporty.. and a lot of ahbeng shop for modification..

i don't think s70 is affordable for range 20-30... same goes to prove previously...
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QUOTE(RegentCid @ Oct 24 2023, 09:58 AM)
Engine will be using Geely develop. But car chassis will be using same as Volvo S60.  So Proton S70 A pillar will be very very strong.
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i don't think people care about the chassis or body
people care about the engine and transmission
which is why people kept saying have to buy 2 for spare laugh.gif

which is why i stand my ground go buy used inspira or "perdana" laugh.gif
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City nowadays also topkek quality like potong
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What quality issue?
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conti experience?
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Vovlo s80 rebadged


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Goverment will make it as ministers official car or not?
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High chance

Maybe police car also
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Oct 24 2023, 09:02 AM)
i don't think people care about the chassis or body
people care about the engine and transmission
which is why people kept saying have to buy 2 for spare laugh.gif

which is why i stand my ground go buy used inspira or "perdana" laugh.gif
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Those buy S70 / Lynk & Co are basically Volvo fans. Can't affort Volvo then go for the Clone. I waiting Lynk & Co coming to Malaysia. Identical Twin of XC40. Same engine , same electric motor , same battery , same chassic. Only interior & headlight are diffrent.
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QUOTE(RegentCid @ Oct 24 2023, 09:58 AM)
Engine will be using Geely develop. But car chassis will be using same as Volvo S60.  So Proton S70 A pillar will be very very strong.
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GEELY married Volvo in 2010, and the obvious children of that union are the Coolray, Okavango and the Emgrand.



Of these cars, it is the Emgrand that adopted the Volvo DNA by a genetic infusion.




The Emgrand, (also known as its numerics, the GC9) incorporates design elements and technology derived from Volvo, including a similar front grille design and its platform is


based on the S80.



The car benefits from Volvo’s expertise in developing advanced safety technologies, as well as its no-nonsense but stylish designs. It is often referred to as a brand that combines affordability, luxury, and performance.


Not volvo S80?
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High chance

Maybe police car also
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Zero chance for ministers to sit in S70.

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QUOTE(RegentCid @ Oct 24 2023, 10:06 AM)
Those buy S70 / Lynk & Co are basically Volvo fans. Can't affort Volvo then go for the Clone.  I waiting Lynk & Co coming to Malaysia. Identical Twin of XC40. Same engine , same electric motor , same battery , same chassic. Only interior & headlight are diffrent.
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Lynk & Co will not come to malaysia.....


Lynk & Co (Chinese: 领克; pinyin: Lǐng kè) is a Chinese-Swedish automobile brand owned by Geely Automobile Holdings. Founded in Gothenburg, Sweden, in 2016.


The Lynk & Co 09 is a mid-size luxury SUV from the Chinese marque Lynk & Co. The model has been developed in conjunction with Volvo Cars and shares the Volvo SPA platform of the second generation Volvo XC90, both companies owned by Geely.



Lynk plan to expand further to a of handful European countries. The sales are steady in China,



But the European business are


making huge loss



and in total for 2020-2021 the company made a loss of 100.000 EUR


Proton is the South East Asia version of Lynk & Co.....

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Zero chance for ministers to sit in S70.
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Why?
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Why?
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Coz it's only a c segment car.
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Oct 24 2023, 09:07 AM)
GEELY married Volvo in 2010, and the obvious children of that union are the Coolray, Okavango and the Emgrand.
Of these cars, it is the Emgrand that adopted the Volvo DNA by a genetic infusion.
The Emgrand, (also known as its numerics, the GC9) incorporates design elements and technology derived from Volvo, including a similar front grille design and its platform is
based on the S80.
The car benefits from Volvo’s expertise in developing advanced safety technologies, as well as its no-nonsense but stylish designs. It is often referred to as a brand that combines affordability, luxury, and performance.
Not volvo S80?
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Future sure got Proton S90 ....that will be based on Volvo S80 / Emgrand chassis.
Currently S70 are same as Geely Borui / Volvo S60
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QUOTE(cangkui @ Oct 24 2023, 09:59 AM)
myvi king is not only based on the horse power... but its price range..

its affordable for the people aged 20-30.. the look is sporty.. and a lot of ahbeng shop for modification..

i don't think s70 is affordable for range 20-30... same goes to prove previously...
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QUOTE(RegentCid @ Oct 24 2023, 10:13 AM)
Future sure got Proton S90 ....that will be based on Volvo S80 / Emgrand chassis.
Currently S70 are same as Geely Borui / Volvo S60
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Geely Boyue ?

No borui leh
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What quality issue?
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I'm ex city user, my city got cvt issue, chain belt putus
When i want to claim warranty, SA mentioned there are 3 other same car waiting for warranty claim for same issue.
Plus now got infamous Honda steering rack issue

I don't want to talk about suspension noise, as i feel most of ckd car will have the same noise issue.
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QUOTE(RegentCid @ Oct 24 2023, 10:13 AM)
Future sure got Proton S90 ....that will be based on Volvo S80 / Emgrand chassis.
Currently S70 are same as Geely Borui / Volvo S60
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I think s90 is possible will based on Preface sedan. Size close to vw passat. But in order to assembly this cma platform must do heavy retooling in tanjong malim plant so don't expect it to come soon in 2-3 years
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QUOTE(MyProLife @ Oct 24 2023, 10:31 AM)
I think s90 is possible will based on Preface sedan. Size close to vw passat. But in order to assembly this cma platform must do heavy retooling in tanjong malim plant so don't expect it to come soon in 2-3 years
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The new BoYueL (Boyue is what X70 based on) is CMA based.

If potong plan to have long term partnership with geely, they eventually will need to adapt to CMA, or whatever successor to it.

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S70 now more to c segment. So ada S50 ?
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QUOTE(RegentCid @ Oct 24 2023, 10:06 AM)
Those buy S70 / Lynk & Co are basically Volvo fans. Can't affort Volvo then go for the Clone.  I waiting Lynk & Co coming to Malaysia. Identical Twin of XC40. Same engine , same electric motor , same battery , same chassic. Only interior & headlight are diffrent.
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campur2 is what i'm not ok
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QUOTE(RegentCid @ Oct 24 2023, 10:06 AM)
Those buy S70 / Lynk & Co are basically Volvo fans. Can't affort Volvo then go for the Clone.  I waiting Lynk & Co coming to Malaysia. Identical Twin of XC40. Same engine , same electric motor , same battery , same chassic. Only interior & headlight are diffrent.
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You are Volvo fans as well? "Can't affort Volvo then go for the Clone" ??
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QUOTE(nebula87 @ Oct 24 2023, 10:00 AM)
You are Volvo fans as well? "Can't affort Volvo then go for the Clone" ??
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Oct 24 2023, 08:51 AM)
Proton S70 price(to be confirmed)
Variant        Price (RM) 
Executive      95,000     
Premium        100,000   
Flagship        110,000   
Flagship X      120,000   
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This banyak expensib might as well get Cibic or Korola
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QUOTE(RegentCid @ Oct 24 2023, 09:58 AM)
Engine will be using Geely develop. But car chassis will be using same as Volvo S60.  So Proton S70 A pillar will be very very strong.
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Wait people still think Geely cars developed by Volvo? NO la. X70, X50 and this all independent la. This S50/70 is based on BMA platform same as X50. Geely already said themselves this is developed by themselves separate from Volvo. CMA platform is the one Geely Volvo use together. BMA is cheaper B segment platform.
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QUOTE(kcchong2000 @ Oct 24 2023, 10:46 AM)
S70 now more to c segment. So ada S50 ?
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Oct 24 2023, 09:19 AM)
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Variant        Price (RM) 
Executive      95,000     
Premium        100,000   
Flagship        110,000   
Flagship X      120,000   
Some variants of the S70 car model may be cheaper than the X50 1.5 TGDI flagship variant (RM 103,300), while some variants of the S70 may be more expensive than the X50.
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lol why u compare with MCO SST-free price, now X50 byk more mahal la
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x70 say 7.8L/100km.

actual test avg 10L/100km.

x50 say 6.5L/100km.

actual test 9L/100km.
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Price like Yahudi


beli Vois je la, no need wait for spare replacement parts
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QUOTE(SinzChan @ Oct 24 2023, 03:48 PM)
x70 say 7.8L/100km.

actual test avg 10L/100km.

x50 say 6.5L/100km.

actual test 9L/100km.
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Atiba 1.0T

P2 say 5.3L/100km

real test 7.5L/100km

5.3L can only achieve if drive below 90kmh and hyper-miling.
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89000rmb (~RM60k ) car in China...
Come here sell RM 120k?????
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QUOTE(myteam94 @ Oct 24 2023, 04:00 PM)
Atiba 1.0T

P2 say 5.3L/100km

real test 7.5L/100km

5.3L can only achieve if drive below 90kmh and hyper-miling.
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Yeah real test will always be higher than brochure. But X50 really is too damn high. 7.5l/100km real world is still good fc. My fren X50 is 8.5km/l or 11.76l/100km, city driving. This one is 20 year old car standard. Not good when the 3 cylinder engine they say is supposed to be efficient and their DCT they blow trumpet say more efficient than VW.
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QUOTE(Gargamel_gibson @ Oct 24 2023, 04:25 PM)
Yeah real test will always be higher than brochure. But X50 really is too damn high. 7.5l/100km real world is still good fc. My fren X50 is 8.5km/l or 11.76l/100km, city driving. This one is 20 year old car standard. Not good when the 3 cylinder engine they say is supposed to be efficient and their DCT they blow trumpet say more efficient than VW.
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WTF 8.5km/L is so bad lol. Sure ah? I heard others say normally around 11km/L which is still acceptable.
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QUOTE(debonairs91 @ Oct 24 2023, 05:26 PM)
WTF 8.5km/L is so bad lol. Sure ah? I heard others say normally around 11km/L which is still acceptable.
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He drive jalan ampang so jam la, but still really really bad. Wapcar test Chery Omoda 5 also get 8.5km/l mixed driving. Probably a problem with Chinese engines, not really up to Japanese standards.
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Atiba 1.0T

P2 say 5.3L/100km

real test 7.5L/100km

5.3L can only achieve if drive below 90kmh and hyper-miling.
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do remember, fuel efficiency will largely depends on acceleration too. many of my friends, drive not fast, but rough type. acceleration just hentam 4k rpm. then slow down. then another green traffic light, 4k rpm. lulz.

same goes on highway. got slow car infront, hentam 4k rpm increase speed to overtake. many people does not know, accelerate and decelerate is the most killer fc.

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89000rmb (~RM60k ) car in China...
Come here sell RM 120k?????
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take China RMB price of 89000, remove the B and get price in RM of 89000
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QUOTE(Gargamel_gibson @ Oct 24 2023, 07:35 PM)
He drive jalan ampang so jam la, but still really really bad. Wapcar test Chery Omoda 5 also get 8.5km/l mixed driving. Probably a problem with Chinese engines, not really up to Japanese standards.
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X50 not volvo engine?
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89000rmb (~RM60k ) car in China...
Come here sell RM 120k?????
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Price to be confirmed


Most cheap variant is RM 73,800

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Price to be confirmed
Most cheap variant is 95000
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if this CCCP model going to cost much more than preve, then it's DOA
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Oct 24 2023, 04:39 AM)
We’re all thinking about it: Proton S70 launch date?

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2019 logo? Should put Geely logo 2019. tongue.gif

Sell RM50K then many will buy.
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Oct 24 2023, 08:08 PM)
X50 not volvo engine?
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X50,x70,x90 all like that?
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X50 not volvo engine?
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Yes and no. Both of them jointly developed the engine. Base design would be the same but certain parts and supplier are different. X50 for example is 10k service interval, while Volvo is 20k interval. Things like engine oil used is different. Whatever it is, seems like Geely acting like Xiaomi, marketing very powderful lots of buzzword features like what more efficient than VW DSG gearbox la. End of the day, real world fuel consumption is really bad compared to equivalent HRV 1.5 turbo.
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0% chance basic model is as expensive as 95k lol
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Why?

If 82,000 possible?

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Volvo engine without the phev system. Lol.
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This is old volvo


Just like inspira time with old lancer version

Rebadged
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Go die la diu
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kek c segment torsion beam.. even the preve was better than this sampah..

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kek c segment torsion beam.. even the preve was better than this sampah..
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Matsuda fans say torsion beam bestestest yoh
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Matsuda fans say torsion beam bestestest yoh
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What happen to Proton?

National car but price totally not local friendly lol
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Most cheap variant is 95000
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Confirm DOA if starting 95K.
Pray they not that stupid.

Example of weak reputation TC & Almera insist entry > 80K vs their established competitors.. How many units sold todate
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QUOTE(dogbert_chew @ Oct 25 2023, 02:03 AM)
Confirm DOA if starting 95K.
Pray they not that stupid.

Example of weak reputation TC & Almera insist entry > 80K vs their established competitors.. How many units sold todate
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30 Oct 2012

Edaran Tan Chong Motor (ETCM) has officially launched the Nissan Almera into our market at an event held at One World Hotel.


With four variants competitively priced between

RM64,887 and RM77,549 (OTR without insurance),


we were more than pleasantly surprised as we’d expected the B-segment sedan to cost somewhat more.


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Proton S70 high chance follow this?


You mean the 2020 version?

Edaran Tan Chong Motor (ETCM) has officially announced the price of the 2020 Nissan Almera Turbo, which goes on sale in Malaysia in three variant forms.

The base Almera VL is priced at RM83,888, but SST exemption reduces this to RM79,906 until December 31.


The mid-line variant, the VLP, is priced at RM89,888, but is currently offered at RM85,715, with SST excluded until the end of the year.


Finally, the range-topping Almera VLT is priced at RM95,888, but will be sold at RM91,310 until December 31. All prices are on-the-road, without insurance.

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price cannot be more than 60k for base model, else DOA.
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We’ve already written a comprehensive article explaining why we thought the new sedan would be called the Proton S70 instead of S50 back in May, and it looks like we were right all along. Ultimately though, we’d say that as long as it’s well-specced and priced competitively, Proton can call it whatever it wants! A “C-segment” sedan priced against B-segment Japanese rivals sounds good, don’t you agree?



It is a C segment car.

So proton sell at at Japan car b segment car price?

Like 80K-98K?



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0% chance basic model is as expensive as 95k lol
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We’ve already written a comprehensive article explaining why we thought the new sedan would be called the Proton S70 instead of S50 back in May, and it looks like we were right all along. Ultimately though, we’d say that as long as it’s well-specced and priced competitively, Proton can call it whatever it wants! A “C-segment” sedan priced against B-segment Japanese rivals sounds good, don’t you agree?



It is a C segment car.

So proton sell at at Japan car b segment car price?

Like 80K - 98K?


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This banyak expensib might as well get Cibic or Korola
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civic > altis

already no question on this. umw can go eat st
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civic > altis

already no question on this. umw can go eat st
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QUOTE(lulusantos @ Oct 24 2023, 04:15 PM)
89000rmb (~RM60k ) car in China...
Come here sell RM 120k?????
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Sell higher price bagus

Enough jam already
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QUOTE(nazrul90 @ Oct 25 2023, 03:50 AM)
topup a bit buy Civic better
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Cibic start at 131k now to 160k++

Manada topup ckit

Hondak city or city hb would be in this car similar price range
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Oct 25 2023, 12:14 AM)
Old volvo also do not have Plug-in hybrid electric vehicles (PHEVs)...
This is old volvo
Just like inspira time with old lancer version

Rebadged
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Phev system even higher risk to …. Than straight ev….

If u guys considering phev might as well jsut go fully ev

Theres a statistic of car on fire in chyna and phev is top of that list
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QUOTE(Gargamel_gibson @ Oct 24 2023, 08:35 PM)
He drive jalan ampang so jam la, but still really really bad. Wapcar test Chery Omoda 5 also get 8.5km/l mixed driving. Probably a problem with Chinese engines, not really up to Japanese standards.
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Honda city i v tetek still win by a mile…

11-13.5km/l and goes even higher on highways… 14.5-16.5km/l….
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Kereta belum launch, fanboy dah tulips spec
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Oct 25 2023, 06:35 AM)
Phev system even higher risk to …. Than straight ev….

If u guys considering phev might as well jsut go fully ev

Theres a statistic of car on fire in chyna and phev is top of that list
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For those living in Japan, you can get your very own 2023 Toyota Prius PHEV priced at 4.6 million Yen, which is around RM150k.


Six exterior colour options are available -



Platinum White Pearl Mica,
Ash,
Attitude Black Mica,
Emotional Red II,
Mustard, and
Dark Blue.


Will this car bring to malaysia?

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QUOTE(Selectt @ Oct 25 2023, 03:03 AM)
civic > altis

already no question on this. umw can go eat st
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After Sime Darby BHD acquires UMW Holdings BHD, do you think UMW Holdings BHD will improve or worsen?



Sime Darby to Acquire UMW
24 August 2023

Deal Will Cement Group's Position as Malaysia's Leading Automotive Player

Sime Darby Berhad (“Sime Darby”) today announced that it has entered into a conditional share purchase agreement (“SPA”) with Permodalan Nasional Berhad (“PNB”) to acquire PNB’s 61.2% stake in UMW Holdings Berhad (“UMW”),


a well-established conglomerate with a diverse portfolio of businesses including automotive, equipment, aerospace and manufacturing & engineering (M&E) segments.


Under the terms of the agreement, Sime Darby will purchase PNB’s 61.2% stake for a total cash consideration of

RM3.57 billion or RM5.00 per share.



When the agreement is finalized, Sime Darby plans to buy the remaining 38.8% of UMW's shares it doesn't own, with the goal of removing UMW from the stock market.
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QUOTE(Kendall @ Oct 25 2023, 07:07 AM)
Kereta belum launch, fanboy dah tulips spec
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To be confirmed



Engine
Gear box
But tyre size
Fuel tank
Colour


Feature Specification
Seating Capacity 5 Seats
Transmission Type CVT
Engine 1600 cc and 2000 cc
Power 119 hp




Entertainment & Communication Availability
Display Size 8 Inch
Apple Carplay/Android Auto have
USB & Auxiliary Input have
Bluetooth Connectivity have
FM/AM/Radio have
Speakers Front have
Speakers Rear have
No Of Speakers 8
Multi-function Steering Wheel have
Integrated 2DIN Audio have
Touch Screen have


https://days.to/until/18-november


Lets wait 23 days more!!!!

Almost insider .....

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QUOTE(vhs @ Oct 25 2023, 07:29 AM)
How cheap? 50K I buy.
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Rm 78,000 - RM 99,900


Or


Rm 95,000 - RM 120,000


Variant Price (RM)
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Executive 95,000
Premium 100,000
Flagship 110,000
Flagship X 120,000




2 Source..


Lets waits 23 days.

18 november(sat)....

Rumours

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Proton always like to launch car end of the year.
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QUOTE(homerthewhopper @ Oct 25 2023, 07:51 AM)
Proton always like to launch car end of the year.
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Car Model Launch Date
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X70 December 12, 2018
X50 October 27, 2020
X90 May 7, 2023



Car Model Launch Date Key Details
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| X70 | December 12, 2018 | - Proton's first SUV, 1.8L turbo engine
| X50 | October 27, 2020 | - Compact SUV, 1.5L turbo engine, 7-speed DCT
| | | - Price range: RM79,200 to RM103,300
| X90 | May 7, 2023 | - Three-row SUV, 1.5L TGDi engine, 48V electric motor
| | | - Improved fuel consumption and lower emissions
| | | - Positioned above X70, competes with Mazda CX-8 and Nissan X-Trail


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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Oct 24 2023, 11:14 PM)
Old volvo also do not have Plug-in hybrid electric vehicles (PHEVs)...
This is old volvo
Just like inspira time with old lancer version

Rebadged
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Er. This engine is use in XC40.
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QUOTE(msacras @ Oct 24 2023, 10:42 AM)
Underpowered and hai beam kaw9 by Vios, Axia, MahVi.
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But will be more reliable than any new cars currently on sale
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I'm ex city user, my city got cvt issue, chain belt putus
When i want to claim warranty, SA mentioned there are 3 other same car waiting for warranty claim for same issue.
Plus now got infamous Honda steering rack issue

I don't want to talk about suspension noise, as i feel most of ckd car will have the same noise issue.
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QUOTE(Gargamel_gibson @ Oct 24 2023, 04:25 PM)
Yeah real test will always be higher than brochure. But X50 really is too damn high. 7.5l/100km real world is still good fc. My fren X50 is 8.5km/l or 11.76l/100km, city driving. This one is 20 year old car standard. Not good when the 3 cylinder engine they say is supposed to be efficient and their DCT they blow trumpet say more efficient than VW.
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welcome to turbocharge engine. FC only good at certain driving window.
https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a2077...l-economy-bust/

many X50 owner compare the FC vs previous car which is 102hp 1.5 NA with CVT gb. they bought 175hp engine lol
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got spare part or not?
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QUOTE(Gargamel_gibson @ Oct 24 2023, 07:35 PM)
He drive jalan ampang so jam la, but still really really bad. Wapcar test Chery Omoda 5 also get 8.5km/l mixed driving. Probably a problem with Chinese engines, not really up to Japanese standards.
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because they love use CVT, any car with CVT get better FC. which Japanese car without scooter gb nowadays?
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because they love use CVT, any car with CVT get better FC. which Japanese car without scooter gb nowadays?
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welcome to turbocharge engine. FC only good at certain driving window.
https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a2077...l-economy-bust/

many X50 owner compare the FC vs previous car which is 102hp 1.5 NA with CVT gb. they bought 175hp engine lol
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But ppl said HRV higher power while having lower FC wor
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got spare part or not?
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There should be spare parts available; if not, the first Proton Volvo sedan may experience low sales.



Next year, I should attend the DRB-HICOM BHD AGM (online only) to ask the directors why there are no spare parts available for the Proton X70 and Proton X50.




Date Time Venue
DRB-HICOM BHD 33rd Annual General Meeting 29 May 2023 ( Monday ) 10:30 am Broadcast Venue at Training Hall, Level 6, Wisma DRB-HICOM, No. 2, Jalan Usahawan U1/8, Seksyen U1, 40150 Shah Alam, Selangor Darul Ehsan, MY



Every year almost same date one....


Summary Resolutions Voting Decision
Resolution Decision
1) To approve the payment of a final dividend of !!!!!!!! 2.0 sen !!!!!!!!!! per share FOR
in respect of the financial year ended 31 December 2022.
2) To re-elect Tan Sri Wan Zulkiflee Wan Ariffin who retires by AGAINST
rotation in accordance with Article 77 of the Company's Constitution
and who being eligible, offers himself for re-election.
(Reason for Voting AGAINST: Tan Sri Wan Zulkiflee Wan Ariffin hold
positions as both the Chairman of DRB-HICOM Berhad’s board and a
Chairman of the Board Nomination and Remuneration Committee)
3) To re-elect Dato' Ibrahim Taib who retires by rotation in FOR
accordance with Article 77 of the Company's Constitution and who
being eligible, offers himself for re-election.
4) To re-elect Uji Sherina Abdullah who retires in accordance with FOR
Article 83 of the Company's Constitution and who being eligible,
offers herself for re-election.
5) To approve the payment of Directors' fees to the Non-Executive FOR
Chairman and Non-Executive Directors up to an amount of !!!!!!!!!"""""""""RM 2,176,000 !!!!!!!!!""""""""""
from 30 May 2023 until the next AGM of the Company.
6 ) To approve the payment of benefits payable (excluding Directors' FOR
fees) to the Non-Executive Chairman and Non-Executive Directors up
to an amount of """"""""""""""!!!!!!! RM 1,258,000 !!!!!!!!!!"""""""""""" from 30 May 2023 until the next AGM of
the Company.
7) To appoint KPMG PLT as the auditors of the Company, to hold office FOR
until the conclusion of the next AGM of the Company and to
authorise the Directors to fix the auditor's remuneration.
8 ) Proposed Renewal of Shareholders Mandate for Existing Recurrent FOR
Related Party Transactions of a Revenue or Trading Nature.



In August 2018 Ahmad Nizam was appointed

chairman of Petronas, however Zulkiflee maintained his position as


CEO and president.



In February 2021, ExxonMobil announced the appointment of Tan Sri Wan Zulkiflee as their first non-American director, making him the 11th director on board.


During 2021 Annual Meeting of Shareholders, Tan Sri Wan Zulkiflee Wan Ariffin was amongst three directors who will be departing the board.


Tan Sri Wan Zulkiflee bin Wan Ariffin is the Non-Executive Group Chairman of the Board of Directors of Malaysia Airlines Berhad and Malaysia Aviation Group Berhad.

Tan Sri Wan Zulkiflee was appointed the Chairman of Malaysia Aviation Group and Malaysia Airlines Berhad in July 2020.


In September 2020, he was appointed the Chairman of DRB Hicom, a diversified business conglomerate involved in automotive, services and property businesses.

In July 2021, Tan Sri Wan Zulkiflee joined Gas Malaysia as Chairman of the Board.

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40 years of history

Always rebadged !!!!


Proton Boleh !!!!





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But ppl said HRV higher power while having lower FC wor
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Again, they combo it with scooter gb, sure good fc. Any car with scooter gb get better fc but not sure about reliability
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But ppl said HRV higher power while having lower FC wor
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This fella I argue with him before la he no listen wan. If that's the case why Bezza 4 speed auto so much better than Persona CVT? Honda HRV engine is way better than Geely engine, fullstop. Guarantee even if use 4 speed auto also will be better than Geely DCT.
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Again, they combo it with scooter gb, sure good fc. Any car with scooter gb get better fc but not sure about reliability
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Bezza Axia dinosaur 4 speed auto but still so much better than Saga/Persona use CVT? Reliability is not even a question now, old Honda City idsi still on the road. Saga FLX even with ciplak China made Punch CVT also no huge problem until now more than 10 years later still on the road.
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QUOTE(Gargamel_gibson @ Oct 25 2023, 12:44 PM)
Bezza Axia dinosaur 4 speed auto but still so much better than Saga/Persona use CVT? Reliability is not even a question now, old Honda City idsi still on the road. Saga FLX even with ciplak China made Punch CVT also no huge problem until now more than 10 years later still on the road.
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U go to cvt repair shop. From Audi to Honda, all suffer belt burst inside. Just repaired mine, previous gen HRV belt at rm4k+. 4 gear auto normal torque converter is best for reliability, but considering 2023, need 6 gear auto nowadays for better FC. Again Punch is a Belgium company lol, if it manufacturers in China, it still Belgium company made
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U go to cvt repair shop. From Audi to Honda, all suffer belt burst inside. Just repaired mine, previous gen HRV belt at rm4k+. 4 gear auto normal torque converter is best for reliability, but considering 2023, need 6 gear auto nowadays for better FC. Again Punch is a Belgium company lol, if it manufacturers in China, it still Belgium company made
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I told you before also Punch now owned by China company called Sensteed, formerly known as Yinyi. Owned by Chinese, manufactured in China, still can call Belgium company?

Reliability is not go CVT mechanic shop to decide. It's the percentage of failures over how many sold total. How many people buy Saga/Iriz/Persona? If really high percentage of failures /k and FB already viral kaw kaw. If Proton one million cars sold with 99.99% reliability still means that 100 cars will have defects. That 100 owners all go to CVT shop repair you see wah 100 people got problems means Proton brand defective? But 99.99% reliability woh.
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welcome to HM. use one time only, now banned them for life. HM use junk parts especially localize parts. Brake pad made in Thai make it juddering at high speed
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Yup, i really ban them after kena with city.
My brake more on having metal screeching noise lol. Go to sc multiple time cannot solve
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Yup, i really ban them after kena with city.
My brake more on having metal screeching noise lol. Go to sc multiple time cannot solve
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In which year did you buy the Honda City?

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U go to cvt repair shop. From Audi to Honda, all suffer belt burst inside. Just repaired mine, previous gen HRV belt at rm4k+. 4 gear auto normal torque converter is best for reliability, but considering 2023, need 6 gear auto nowadays for better FC. Again Punch is a Belgium company lol, if it manufacturers in China, it still Belgium company made
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Nissan Almera CVT ok?
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Nissan Almera CVT ok?
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shitco CVT
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Not all CVTs are bad.

Only Shitco (Nissan's Jatco) and Punch-able CVTs are known for having issues.


found someone said on lowyat


Proton Inspira 1.8E CVT ok?
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Not all CVTs are bad.

Only Shitco (Nissan's Jatco) and Punch-able CVTs are known for having issues.
found someone said on lowyat
Proton Inspira 1.8E CVT ok?
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To be neutral, just go to gb repair shop, all brand is affected for CVT especially the belt after hitting high mileage. Then u will get somebody said this CVT cannot drive aggressive once etc. Long time ago even Audi had problematic CVT gb
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Not all CVTs are bad.

Only Shitco (Nissan's Jatco) and Punch-able CVTs are known for having issues.
found someone said on lowyat
Proton Inspira 1.8E CVT ok?
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Honda M one, especially previous gen HRV and City, many had belt burst inside. Even under warranty, cz too many, HM had make some agreement that only can claim 1 time within 5 years

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Honda M one, especially previous gen HRV and City, many had belt burst inside. Even under warranty, cz too many, HM had make some agreement that only can claim 1 time within 5 years
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HM had make some agreement that only can claim 1 time within 5 years

When Honda Malaysia change this terms and conditions?
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To be neutral, just go to gb repair shop, all brand is affected for CVT especially the belt after hitting high mileage. Then u will get somebody said this CVT cannot drive aggressive once etc. Long time ago even Audi had problematic CVT gb
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I plan to buy inspira or almera.


2013 or 2017 year second hand...



https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=5394906&hl=




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welcome to HM. use one time only, now banned them for life. HM use junk parts especially localize parts. Brake pad made in Thai make it juddering at high speed
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lucky I have good experience with jazz GK. no such issues (just normal wear /tear) and 1 abs module (but still never stranded or touchwood anything on the road)

seeing the FB post now in HRV, civic group, made me want to forget buying a HM again.

but what are the alternatives sigh. toyota with that dinasour aunty looking models. and mazda is just selling their car at sohigh price (ok admit ayam the b40)
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In which year did you buy the Honda City?
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Mine one is gm6 model, i bought on 2016
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Honda M one, especially previous gen HRV and City, many had belt burst inside. Even under warranty, cz too many, HM had make some agreement that only can claim 1 time within 5 years
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Hmm, maybe the unit you get got QC problem.

My 2019 city v spec no such issue, always drive in high speed, gearbox still in good response, easily hit 190kmh on LEKAS, even just using xm2+

Sold it in Jun, carsome only mention mileage was too high, 180k km. When SUKE baru open, got two times I accidentally push the gear from D to N instead of S when drive at 140kmh, the whole car suddenly slow down with super huge noise. Thought it will sure damage the gearbox but surprise it can still last until this year. And still very responsive in acceleration.

But anyway, I am honda users who hate honda also yet keep buying honda, hahaha, got one civic and one crv 😂. Touch wood no issue for both cars so far.

But CVT really NOISY la, especially when it hit 5.5k rpm.

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We’re all thinking about it: Proton S70 launch date?


Difference between Oct 25, 2023 and Nov 18, 2023

25 Calendar Days
Countdown!!!!!
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Feature              Specification
Seating Capacity      5 Seats     
Transmission Type    CVT         
Engine                1600 cc and 2000 cc     
Power                119 hp       
Entertainment & Communication Availability
Display Size                  8 Inch     
Apple Carplay/Android Auto    have       
USB & Auxiliary Input        have       
Bluetooth Connectivity        have       
FM/AM/Radio                  have       
Speakers Front                have       
Speakers Rear                have       
No Of Speakers                8           
Multi-function Steering Wheel have       
Integrated 2DIN Audio        have       
Touch Screen                  have       
Chassis 
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Assembly                Malaysia                       
Type                    Unibody                       
Front Suspension        MacPherson Strut               
Rear Suspension          Torsion Beam                   
Front Wheels                  215/55 R18           
Rear Wheels                215/55 R18             
Front Brakes            Ventilated Disc               
Rear Brakes              Solid Disc                   
Steering                Rack and Pinion (Electric Power Steering)
Chassis Notes            -                             
| Drivetrain                |       
Type                      Dual-clutch Automatic (Wet)
Transmission Name        7DCT                     
Ratios                    7                       
Manufacturer              Geely                   
Driveline                Front Wheel Drive       
Performance And Efficiency                          
0-100 km/h              -                       
Rated Economy            6.5 L/100 km (Internal) 
Top Speed                -                       
CO2                      -                       
Color Option         
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Crystal Black Pearl 
Modern Steel Metallic
Lunar Silver Metallic
Platinum White Pearl 
Passion Red Pearl   
Specification    15" Option  16" Option 
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Wheel Type        Alloy        Alloy       
Wheel Size        15"          16"         
Tyre Size        185/60R15    185/55R16   
Spare Tyre Size  15"          15"         
Specification        Value         
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Transmission Type    Dual Clutch   
Fuel Type            Petrol       
Seating Capacity    5 Seats       
Power                181 hp       
Engine Displacement  1500 cc       
Specification                Measurement
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Fuel Tank Capacity (litres)  60 L     
Turning Radius              5.5 m     
No Of Doors                  5         
Seating Capacity            5 Seats   
Specification        Measurement (mm) Weight (kg)
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Length                4,580            -         
Width                1,748            -         
Height                1,467            -         
Wheelbase            2,600            -         
Tread Front          1,495            -         
Tread Rear            1,483            -         
Curb Weight          1,125            -         
Boot Capacity (litre) 519              -         
Title                  Proton S70 Specifications       
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Engine                1.6L Petrol Engine & 2.0L Petrol Engine           
Configuration          In-line 4 Cylinder 12 Valve DOHC
Fuel Supply System    Direct Injection               
No Of Cylinders        4                             
Valves Per Cylinder    4                               
Valve Configuration    DOHC                           
Turbocharger/Supercharger Turbocharged                 
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As we know, Proton's CEO Dr Li Chunrong  said in early September that the new Proton model will be released in two months' time. So based on his timeline, we are looking at a launch date of around the
1st or 2nd week of November. That is just a fortnight away.

18 November (Saturday) ?
11 November (Saturday) ???

18.11.2023 ?

11.11.2023 ???
Variant        Price (RM) 
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Executive      95,000     
Premium        100,000   
Flagship        110,000   
Flagship X      120,000   
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30 percent like BMW
Possible Proton S70 specification.

The Proton S70 is likely to be equipped with the 1.5 liter TGDi turbocharged three-cylinder engine - same as its compatriot the X50 & X70, with DCT gearbox powering the wheels. Also expected to be included is the standard ADAS safety system.

The million dollar question: Proton S70 price?

You must have googled ‘Proton X70 expected price’ at least once right? No one knows, but we do have an idea. If we look at the three Japanese models mentioned above - The City, Vios and Almera.
These cars' price range are almost the same -

From RM 83k - RM 99k, with the exception of City 1.5L e:HEV RS which is priced at RM 111k.

The price of Proton S70 will likely be in the same competitive

RM 80k -RM 90k range,

though it wouldn't hurt us if Proton prices it slightly lower from Rm 70k onwards.

So, would you like to get your hands on the Proton S70?
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May I know where to get the info on price range? Only 83-99k?
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HM had make some agreement that only can claim 1 time within 5 years

When Honda Malaysia change this terms and conditions?
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HM had make some agreement that only can claim 1 time within 5 years

When Honda Malaysia change this terms and conditions?
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When u claim the new CVT gb under warranty which cost about rm21k on invoices. That why many owner just letgo of it after getting the warranty claim
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after steering rack now Hoda got GB problem?
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huhhhh
after steering rack now Hoda got GB problem?
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only proton is bad
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how come some media attended the pre intro about SS11 say some variant will use new engine?
or they just wanna attract viewer only.

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how come some media attended the pre intro about SS11 say some variant will use new engine?
or they just wanna attract viewer only.
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Source?
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Source?
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sorry only in cainis

skip to 9:20
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huhhhh
after steering rack now Hoda got GB problem?
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how come some media attended the pre intro about SS11 say some variant will use new engine?
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just watch the pinoy review...but that is the 1.5NA, interior and etc...

if the engine we are getting is the 1.5 turbo 177hp/255Nm, this car....will really zooms, and I think it cannot be priced starting $70k..would probably start from $80k to 100k+

well...as any concern on x50...and proton...the spare parts...and probably 3-5 years alot dumping in the market...

don't need to get the latest iphone, but maybe 3-5 years down, once it hit 40k-55k-ish....might be a good hunt/bargain...if it doesn't catch fire.




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QUOTE(Heroicage @ Oct 29 2023, 07:57 PM)
just watch the pinoy review...but that is the 1.5NA, interior and etc...

if the engine we are getting is the 1.5 turbo 177hp/255Nm, this car....will really zooms, and I think it cannot be priced starting $70k..would probably start from $80k to 100k+

well...as any concern on x50...and proton...the spare parts...and probably 3-5 years alot dumping in the market...

don't need to get the latest iphone, but maybe 3-5 years down, once it hit 40k-55k-ish....might be a good hunt/bargain...if it doesn't catch fire.
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Means spare part issue will cause proton s50 2nd hand price cheap?
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QUOTE(Heroicage @ Oct 29 2023, 07:57 PM)
just watch the pinoy review...but that is the 1.5NA, interior and etc...

if the engine we are getting is the 1.5 turbo 177hp/255Nm, this car....will really zooms, and I think it cannot be priced starting $70k..would probably start from $80k to 100k+

well...as any concern on x50...and proton...the spare parts...and probably 3-5 years alot dumping in the market...

don't need to get the latest iphone, but maybe 3-5 years down, once it hit 40k-55k-ish....might be a good hunt/bargain...if it doesn't catch fire.
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The only time without parts are in 2020 and 2021. Known parts always lack is the Spark plugs, air filter. But nowadays ok already since 2022. If accident, that one all brand same shit situation
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The only time without parts are in 2020 and 2021. Known parts always lack is the Spark plugs, air filter. But nowadays ok already since 2022. If accident, that one all brand same shit situation
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If accident, that one all brand same shit situation


Can you explain more?
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If accident, that one all brand same shit situation
Can you explain more?
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if accident situation, the waiting for parts replacement if say send the Car's Manufacturer Body & Paint center. Insurance within 7-14 days can get results, however for materials to arrive at the center, some brands need 3-4 weeks, while some brand and parts need months. That situation was horror story during the covid time. that why u hear some car owner who had accident, already at the SC for 4-7 months waiting for parts. This is not an issue if send it outside for repair under own pay, cz parts can be order from abroad by workshop or by own.
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Oct 30 2023, 01:58 PM)
if accident situation, the waiting for parts replacement if say send the Car's Manufacturer Body & Paint center. Insurance within 7-14 days can get results, however for materials to arrive at the center, some brands need 3-4 weeks, while some brand and parts need months. That situation was horror story during the covid time. that why u hear some car owner who had accident, already at the SC for 4-7 months waiting for parts. This is not an issue if send it outside for repair under own pay, cz parts can be order from abroad by workshop or by own.
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Now post covid-19 era no more this issue?
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Oct 30 2023, 02:00 PM)
Now post covid-19 era no more this issue?
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looks back to normal if for X70 group FB. no more issue like past during covid time.
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looks back to normal if for X70 group FB. no more issue like past during covid time.
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May you share some X70 car owners facebook group?
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price cannot be more than 60k for base model, else DOA.
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https://nextrift.com/rumour-proton-s70-line...nomous-driving/


S50 or S70 ?


Marketing strategy???

17 days more!!!!!
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https://nextrift.com/rumour-proton-s70-line...nomous-driving/
S50 or S70 ?
Marketing strategy???

17 days more!!!!!
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con lan firm is S70 d. Proton starts collecting order today. But no pricelist yet. zz
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My SA said launch on 18.

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Feature ikut macam X90
Got 4 variant
Executive, Premium, Flagship and Flagship X
Price range estimated 70-110k

Let wait and see.
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please use a simple yes/no in the availability column.

Entertainment & Communication Availability
Display Size                  8 Inch     
Apple Carplay/Android Auto    have       
USB & Auxiliary Input        have       
Bluetooth Connectivity        have       
FM/AM/Radio                  have       
Speakers Front                have       
Speakers Rear                have       
No Of Speakers                8           
Multi-function Steering Wheel have       
Integrated 2DIN Audio        have       
Touch Screen                  have       
Chassis 

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Until today still got company selling base variant car without rear parking sensor!!!
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Feature Availability
Display Size 8 Inch
Apple Carplay/Android Auto Yes
USB & Auxiliary Input Yes
Bluetooth Connectivity Yes
FM/AM/Radio Yes
Speakers Front Yes
Speakers Rear Yes
No Of Speakers 8
Multi-function Steering Wheel Yes
Integrated 2DIN Audio Yes
Touch Screen Yes


Do you happy now?

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Until today still got company selling base variant car without rear parking sensor!!!
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Proton and perodua?


Nissan Malaysia no?
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Proton and perodua?
Nissan Malaysia no?
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Nov 1 2023, 03:44 PM)
| Feature                      | Availability  |
Display Size                8 Inch       
Apple Carplay/Android Auto  Yes         
USB & Auxiliary Input        Yes         
Bluetooth Connectivity      Yes         
FM/AM/Radio                  Yes         
Speakers Front              Yes         
Speakers Rear                Yes         
No Of Speakers              8           
Multi-function Steering Wheel Yes         
Integrated 2DIN Audio        Yes         
Touch Screen                Yes         
Do you happy now?
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CD drive?
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QUOTE(kevintth @ Nov 1 2023, 03:46 PM)
this S70 la... PT article say it

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Where is the source?
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CD drive?
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DVD drive


Nowadays still got CD exist?
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this S70 la... PT article say it

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I think it's likely an error la. It's meant to say the Premium trim gains front parking sensor.
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ada spare part tak?
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Proton S70 launch date and price, 1st or 2nd week of november 2023

Variant Price (RM)
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Executive 95,000
Premium 100,000
Flagship 110,000
Flagship X 120,000
.
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In comparison, .......

h tt ps: / / p a u l tan. o r g/2021/07/30/2021-geely-emgrand-sedan-open-for-booking-in-china-1-5l-na-with-cvt-priced-from-rm57k-to-rm60k/ - 2021/07/30/2021 - geely-emgrand-sedan-open-for-booking-in-china-1-5l-na-with-cvt-priced-from- RM57k-to- RM60k

https://www.caricarz.com/en/news/2022-geely...k-to-rm70k/1760 - Philippines - 2022-geely-emgrand-plays-a-price-starting- RM60k-to- RM70k

https://soyacincau.com/2023/11/01/proton-s7...-specs-booking/ - Proton S70: Malaysia’s answer to the Civic officially revealed, booking opens today for RM500
BY Chief Chapree - 1 November 2023, 11:42 am

... In the case of S70, it was based on the fourth-generation Geely Emgrand that was launched in China back in 2021. ....
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Nov 2 2023, 06:45 PM)
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Proton S70 launch date and price, 1st or 2nd week of november 2023

Variant        Price (RM) 
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Executive      95,000     
Premium        100,000   
Flagship        110,000   
Flagship X      120,000   
.
.
In comparison, .......

<a href='https://<link removed>/2021/07/30/2021-geely-emgrand-sedan-open-for-booking-in-china-1-5l-na-with-cvt-priced-from-rm57k-to-rm60k/' target='_blank'>https://<link removed>/2021/07/30/2021-geely-e...rm57k-to-rm60k/</a> - 2021/07/30/2021 - geely-emgrand-sedan-open-for-booking-in-china-1-5l-na-with-cvt-priced-from- RM57k-to- RM60k

https://www.caricarz.com/en/news/2022-geely...k-to-rm70k/1760 - Philippines - 2022-geely-emgrand-plays-a-price-starting- RM60k-to- RM70k
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If that’s the pricing, this car will be more rare than Suzuki Jimny on the road.
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Nov 2 2023, 06:45 PM)
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Proton S70 launch date and price, 1st or 2nd week of november 2023

Variant        Price (RM) 
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Executive      95,000     
Premium        100,000   
Flagship        110,000   
Flagship X      120,000   
.
.
In comparison, .......

h tt ps: / / p a u l tan. o r g/2021/07/30/2021-geely-emgrand-sedan-open-for-booking-in-china-1-5l-na-with-cvt-priced-from-rm57k-to-rm60k/  - 2021/07/30/2021 - geely-emgrand-sedan-open-for-booking-in-china-1-5l-na-with-cvt-priced-from- RM57k-to- RM60k

https://www.caricarz.com/en/news/2022-geely...k-to-rm70k/1760 - Philippines - 2022-geely-emgrand-plays-a-price-starting- RM60k-to- RM70k
.
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This pricing sure cannot sell. Might as well take x50 which is cheaper
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This pricing sure cannot sell. Might as well take x50 which is cheaper
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c-segment leh.. X50 just b-segment...
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QUOTE((lurkingaround @ Nov 2 2023, 06:45 PM)
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Proton S70 launch date and price, 1st or 2nd week of november 2023

Variant        Price (RM) 
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Executive      95,000     
Premium        100,000   
Flagship        110,000   
Flagship X      120,000   
.
.
In comparison, .......

h tt ps: / / p a u l tan. o r g/2021/07/30/2021-geely-emgrand-sedan-open-for-booking-in-china-1-5l-na-with-cvt-priced-from-rm57k-to-rm60k/  - 2021/07/30/2021 - geely-emgrand-sedan-open-for-booking-in-china-1-5l-na-with-cvt-priced-from- RM57k-to- RM60k

https://www.caricarz.com/en/news/2022-geely...k-to-rm70k/1760 - Philippines - 2022-geely-emgrand-plays-a-price-starting- RM60k-to- RM70k

https://soyacincau.com/2023/11/01/proton-s7...-specs-booking/ - Proton S70: Malaysia’s answer to the Civic officially revealed, booking opens today for RM500
BY Chief Chapree - 1 November 2023, 11:42 am

... In the case of S70, it was based on the fourth-generation Geely Emgrand that was launched in China back in 2021. ....
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QUOTE(Balanced @ Nov 2 2023, 07:03 PM)
This pricing sure cannot sell. Might as well take x50 which is cheaper
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Or buy the Honda City Hatchback 2022 Model. .......

h t t p s : / / p a u l tan. o r g/2022/04/26/review-2022-honda-city-hatchback-in-malaysia/ - 2022/04/26 - REVIEW: 2022 Honda City Hatchback in Malaysia – RS e:HEV hybrid and V, priced from RM88k to RM108k
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Nov 2 2023, 06:45 PM)
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Proton S70 launch date and price, 1st or 2nd week of november 2023

Variant        Price (RM) 
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Executive      95,000     
Premium        100,000   
Flagship        110,000   
Flagship X      120,000   
.
.
In comparison, .......

h tt ps: / / p a u l tan. o r g/2021/07/30/2021-geely-emgrand-sedan-open-for-booking-in-china-1-5l-na-with-cvt-priced-from-rm57k-to-rm60k/  - 2021/07/30/2021 - geely-emgrand-sedan-open-for-booking-in-china-1-5l-na-with-cvt-priced-from- RM57k-to- RM60k

https://www.caricarz.com/en/news/2022-geely...k-to-rm70k/1760 - Philippines - 2022-geely-emgrand-plays-a-price-starting- RM60k-to- RM70k

https://soyacincau.com/2023/11/01/proton-s7...-specs-booking/ - Proton S70: Malaysia’s answer to the Civic officially revealed, booking opens today for RM500
BY Chief Chapree - 1 November 2023, 11:42 am

... In the case of S70, it was based on the fourth-generation Geely Emgrand that was launched in China back in 2021. ....
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1.5NA with CVT.
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i hope they are not stupid enough to sell at 89k when people are not even buying vios
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This Volvo S80 became a Geely Emgrand and later transformed into the Proton S70.

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This is volvo s80 become Geely emgrand become Proton S70
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I remember saw my ex colleague car Volvo lorry langgar his car the lorry more serious damage than his car😱. If proton s70 is this kind of quality then worth the price
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the price lapping with x70.
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I remember saw my ex colleague car Volvo lorry langgar his car the lorry more serious damage than his car😱. If proton s70 is this kind of quality then worth the price
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I remember seeing my ex-colleague's car. It is a Volvo car. The lorry collided with his Volvo car, and surprisingly, the lorry sustained more serious damage than his car. If the Proton S70 is of similar quality, then it would be worth the price.


May I know which year?
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1.5NA with CVT.
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This Volvo S80 became a Geely Emgrand and later transformed into the Proton S70.
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I remember seeing my ex-colleague's car. It is a Volvo car. The lorry collided with his Volvo car, and surprisingly, the lorry sustained more serious damage than his car. If the Proton S70 is of similar quality, then it would be worth the price.
May I know which year?
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this one although look like ahpek car but is tough

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this one although look like ahpek car but is tough
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https://www.carlist.my/used-cars/1997-volvo...-sedan/12099611

Only RM 3000

May I know which year the accident happen?


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the price lapping with x70.
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Yes



Euromobil Sdn. Bhd. – Audi
Automotive Corporation (M) Sdn. Bhd. – Isuzu
EON Auto Mart Sdn. Bhd. – Mitsubishi
HICOM Auto Sdn. Bhd. – Volkswagen


DRB-HICOM are also shareholders in

Honda Malaysia Sdn. Bhd.,
ISUZU Malaysia Sdn. Bhd. and
Mitsubishi Motors Malaysia Sdn. Bhd.



The Group is also the exclusive distributor of Tata commercial vehicles in Malaysia.

DRB-Hicom, the majority shareholder with a 50.1% stake in Malaysian national car manufacturer Proton Holdings Bhd, also holds a 34% ownership stake in associate Honda Malaysia Sdn Bhd.



The remaining 49.9% stake in Proton is owned by Zhejiang Geely Holding Group Co Ltd.



DRB-HICOM EZ-Drive Sdn Bhd (otherwise known as Avis Malaysia) is the Avis Rent A Car licensee in Malaysia.

The company was established in Malaysia in 1972 and has been acquired by DRB-HICOM via EON Berhad in June 2014.


The Avis brand is one of the world's best-known car rental brands providing short-term rental and long-term lease to business and leisure travellers in approximately 11,000 locations across more than 180 countries.



Today, Avis Malaysia operates 18 rental locations and 2 site offices in Malaysia.

For work or leisure, we provide customers a wide range of professional mobility services and solutions specializing in vehicle rental, leasing as well as fleet management services to both individuals and businesses.

https://www.avis.com.my/MY-Locations





But i think this Proton S70 will skyrocket....


Volvo S80 become geely emgrand then transform to Proton S70


DRB-HICOM BHD
KLSE (MYR):


DRBHCOM (1619)

RM 1.40

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price cannot be more than 60k for base model, else DOA.
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Variant of Proton S70 Price (RM)
Executive (A) 85,000
Premium (A) 92,000
Flagship (A) 99,000
Flagship X (A) 105,000




Source near......

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Power figure and DCT nice but handling useless no point . Torsion beam B segment not sure body can handle power.
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Nov 2 2023, 10:46 PM)
This Volvo S80 became a Geely Emgrand and later transformed into the Proton S70.
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You must be naive to think it's a same s80.
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Nov 3 2023, 12:43 AM)
| Variant of Proton S70      | Price (RM)  |
Executive (A)      85,000     
Premium (A)        92,000   
Flagship (A)      99,000   
Flagship X (A)      105,000   
Source near......
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proton just empty the 60k exora. if they follow above pricing, good luck.honda city much better choice, resell value and quality.
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Nov 2 2023, 06:45 PM)
| Variant        | Price (RM)  |
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Executive      95,000     
Premium        100,000   
Flagship        110,000   
Flagship X      120,000   
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if that X price is true, might as well top up sikit get lowest spec Civic

QUOTE(brkli @ Nov 2 2023, 07:17 PM)
c-segment leh.. X50 just b-segment...
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it being C-segment is just Proton inflating the segment, doesn't mean it will perform like a true C-segment


QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Nov 3 2023, 12:43 AM)
| Variant of Proton S70      | Price (RM)  |
Executive (A)      85,000     
Premium (A)        92,000   
Flagship (A)      99,000   
Flagship X (A)      105,000   
Source near......
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this pricing more logical to compete with Vios & City
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QUOTE(Gold_Moderator @ Nov 3 2023, 09:49 AM)
proton just empty the 60k exora. if they follow above pricing, good luck.honda city much better choice, resell value and quality.
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HM quality? Lol. Standby steering rack replacement every 6 months
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why compare to Vios and City not same segment right, and some compare with Myvi also lol....
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QUOTE(bereev @ Nov 3 2023, 10:07 AM)
why compare to Vios and City not same segment right, and some compare with Myvi also lol....
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because compare with same price as overseas brand lower segment, but u get higher segment specs, that's how Proton and Perodua sells
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Nov 2 2023, 06:45 PM)
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Proton S70 launch date and price, 1st or 2nd week of november 2023

Variant        Price (RM) 
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Executive      95,000     
Premium        100,000   
Flagship        110,000   
Flagship X      120,000   
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In comparison, .......

h tt ps: / / p a u l tan. o r g/2021/07/30/2021-geely-emgrand-sedan-open-for-booking-in-china-1-5l-na-with-cvt-priced-from-rm57k-to-rm60k/  - 2021/07/30/2021 - geely-emgrand-sedan-open-for-booking-in-china-1-5l-na-with-cvt-priced-from- RM57k-to- RM60k

https://www.caricarz.com/en/news/2022-geely...k-to-rm70k/1760 - Philippines - 2022-geely-emgrand-plays-a-price-starting- RM60k-to- RM70k

https://soyacincau.com/2023/11/01/proton-s7...-specs-booking/ - Proton S70: Malaysia’s answer to the Civic officially revealed, booking opens today for RM500
BY Chief Chapree - 1 November 2023, 11:42 am

... In the case of S70, it was based on the fourth-generation Geely Emgrand that was launched in China back in 2021. ....
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but S70 turbo engine and DCT , China only normal engine normal cvt
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Nov 3 2023, 10:06 AM)
HM quality? Lol. Standby steering rack replacement every 6 months
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if got spare part bro. china , Philippines spare part not compatible with Malaysia standard. this is the reason why Malaysia proton always got new car model after china and Philippines.
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QUOTE(Gold_Moderator @ Nov 3 2023, 11:54 AM)
if got spare part bro. china , Philippines spare part not compatible with Malaysia standard. this is the reason why Malaysia proton always got new car model after china and Philippines.
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More towards LHD to RHD. Philippines LHD can straight away take from China. Here, need CKD, make RHD. Another topic for HM, quality were questionable nowadays
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Nov 3 2023, 12:43 PM)
More towards LHD to RHD. Philippines LHD can straight away take from China. Here, need CKD, make RHD. Another topic for HM, quality were questionable nowadays
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proton QA and material quality is no question.
all P1 owners know. lmao.
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QUOTE(Gold_Moderator @ Nov 3 2023, 03:29 PM)
proton QA and material quality is no question.
all P1 owners know. lmao.
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At least no need steering rack replacement every engine oil change, now many H SC keep saying or taici, "it is normal" to customer. Lol HM.
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At least no need steering rack replacement every engine oil change, now many H SC keep saying or taici, "it is normal" to customer. Lol HM.
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consider design flaw. nvm, still sell like hot cake and no recall any unit.
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QUOTE(shadowglow @ Nov 3 2023, 03:49 AM)
You must be naive to think it's a same s80.
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But at least engine and transmission


Like inspira

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Nov 3 2023, 04:16 PM)
At least no need steering rack replacement every engine oil change, now many H SC keep saying or taici, "it is normal" to customer. Lol HM.
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Honda city?


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if got spare part bro. china , Philippines spare part not compatible with Malaysia standard. this is the reason why Malaysia proton always got new car model after china and Philippines.
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Not understand.


Proton do not sell car to philippines right ?
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new proton persona 2023

just adjusted driver side abit rough then air bag warning light came up

SA said u pulled a wire under seat

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The servicing at proton is a concern....
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Nov 3 2023, 05:54 PM)
Honda city?
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City and Civic were well known for steering rack. Wrv also got few owner had claim steering rack as well
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Not understand.
Proton do not sell car to philippines right ?
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QUOTE(Aaron212 @ Nov 3 2023, 06:23 PM)
new proton persona 2023

just adjusted driver side abit rough then air bag warning light came up

SA said u pulled a wire under seat

topkek retard mia
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Actually true.

Happen to my X70 as well.
Sometime we send cuci kereta, the worker vacuum there and tertarik that wire from socket. So when you adjust your seat that wire touch your seat frame and now loose.

Just pegang2 your wire bawah seat and plug it back tightly.


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Flagship X and flagship model only difference with sunroof? Doesn't make sense to me, my guess come with hybrid engine?
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QUOTE(Gold_Moderator @ Nov 3 2023, 09:04 PM)
Proton don’t. Geely yes.
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Philippines spare part not compatible with Malaysia standard. this is the reason why Malaysia proton always got new car model after china and Philippines.


Means new spare part in philipines quality not good?

May you share what geeely car model in philipines now?



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Flagship X and flagship model only difference with sunroof? Doesn't make sense to me,  my guess come with hybrid engine?
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Any source?
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Nov 4 2023, 12:17 PM)
Philippines spare part not compatible with Malaysia standard. this is the reason why Malaysia proton always got new car model after china and Philippines.
Means new spare part in philipines quality not good?

May you share what geeely car model in philipines now?
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Left hand drive vs Right hand drive bro.
And Philippines Geely Emgrand use same engine and transmission as China.
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Left hand drive vs Right hand drive bro.
And Philippines Geely Emgrand use same engine and transmission as China.
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Malaysia Proton X50 and Proton X90 use volvo engine and transmission?

Better than philipines?


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https://www.carlist.my/used-cars/1997-volvo...-sedan/12099611

Only RM 3000

May I know which year the accident happen?
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Cannot recall quite long time 😁
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QUOTE(Jingle91 @ Oct 25 2023, 04:17 PM)
Hmm, maybe the unit you get got QC problem.

My 2019 city v spec no such issue, always drive in high speed, gearbox still in good response, easily hit 190kmh on LEKAS, even just using xm2+

Sold it in Jun, carsome only mention mileage was too high, 180k km. When SUKE baru open, got two times I accidentally push the gear from D to N instead of S when drive at 140kmh, the whole car suddenly slow down with super huge noise. Thought it will sure damage the gearbox but surprise it can still last until this year. And still very responsive in acceleration.

But anyway, I am honda users who hate honda also yet keep buying honda, hahaha, got one civic and one crv 😂. Touch wood no issue for both cars so far.

But CVT really NOISY la, especially when it hit 5.5k rpm.
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got QD link , no worries without Android Auto or Apple car play


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got QD link , no worries without Android Auto or Apple car play


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can off phone screen like AA or AC???
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Rm85k for exec hard to chew.. it's going to follow their x90 footsteps.
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QUOTE(kidmad @ Nov 4 2023, 11:53 PM)
Rm85k for exec hard to chew.. it's going to follow their x90 footsteps.
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Proton X90
RM 123,800 - 152,800


So enough profit?
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Proton X90 
RM 123,800 - 152,800
So enough profit?
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Is there enough ppl buying them.. at this point ppl would rather get serena else just settle down with chery.. no idea what they are thinking to start at x70 price but x70 comes with 1.8T for their top tier.
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QUOTE(kidmad @ Nov 5 2023, 12:21 AM)
Is there enough ppl buying them.. at this point ppl would rather get serena else just settle down with chery.. no idea what they are thinking to start at x70 price but x70 comes with 1.8T for their top tier.
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Volvo engine is main selling point

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Oct 24 2023, 07:33 AM)
price cannot be more than 60k for base model, else DOA.
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100,000 / 36 months = 2777 units

Average every month selling 2777 units!!



2777 units / 30 days = 92 units

Every day selling 92 units !!!!!!!



03 Nov 2023



Proton X50 sales surpasses 100,000 units in 3 years – officially the fastest-selling SUV in Malaysia ever


Story continues after ad

Proton has announced that its sales tally for the X50 SUV has exceeded 100,000 units (100,210 exactly) since its launch 36 months ago, making it the most popular B-segment SUV in the country.

The national car company even claims that this is “the shortest time it has taken for any SUV to achieve the benchmark in Malaysia,” which is to say it’s the fastest-selling SUV here ever. This comes after 2,021 units of the X50 were delivered in October 2023, adding up to 26,981 units so far this year.

Proton’s official count states the X50 got off to a painfully slow start in 2020, selling just 3,787 units between its launch on October 27 and the end of the year. Early adopters waited months to receive their new cars back then, me included. Production ramped up significantly in 2021 and 2022, with sales totalling 28,774 and 40,681 units respectively. Yes, the numbers add up to 100,223 and not 100,210, but that’s the figure Proton is quoting now.

It has to be said, however, that the Proton X50 is in dire need of a refresh. It’s already a few update cycles behind its Geely Binyue/Coolray donor model, and its sales numbers appear to be slowing down too after a stellar 2022. The latter is to be expected for a model that is now three years old, but an update to stir up excitement couldn’t come soon enough.

In any case, credit where credit’s due, please join me in wishing the Proton X50 a warm congratulations. Fastest-selling SUV in Malaysia ever, that’s some feat.

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Love how Geely buys press releases and influencer reviews to make people think it's the best selling car.

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QUOTE(jcheong @ Nov 5 2023, 12:38 AM)
Love how Geely buys press releases and influencer reviews to make people think it's the best selling car.

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Can you share your source?

Maybe the Proton X50 had high unit sales in 2021 and 2022?

But Malaysian Automotive Association (MAA) never disclosure?

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Nov 5 2023, 12:43 AM)
Can you share your source?

Maybe the Proton X50 had high unit sales in 2021 and 2022?

But Malaysian Automotive Association (MAA) never disclosure?
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Can see from government's data.gov.my

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QUOTE(jcheong @ Nov 5 2023, 12:46 AM)
Can see from government's data.gov.my

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Proton news is correct..


In SUV category it wins.

Myvi and saga is not SUV.



Year Proton X50 sales
2021 28,462
2022 39,564
2023 22,294 (until october 2023)


28462+ 22294+39564 = 90320



This info maybe slow.

Now should be 100,000

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Love how Geely buys press releases and influencer reviews to make people think it's the best selling car.

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do you even read?

Best selling SUV
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QUOTE(msacras @ Nov 5 2023, 12:50 AM)
do you even read?

Best selling SUV
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I said CAR not SUV. There's always news about it appearing how good their car sales are but I was surprised to see they're only that close to Toyota's sales.

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got QD link , no worries without Android Auto or Apple car play


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QUOTE(DupeIkan @ Nov 4 2023, 11:48 PM)
can off phone screen like AA or AC???
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QD link is stewwwpiddd. Hp screen wont turn off like AA or AC since it is a screen mirroring. And prone to problem like “cant play media when driving” but it is a f waze! Other error like QD link stop working when driving or hp suddenly lock while using it. When it lock of cos u lost the screen mirroring function. So no.

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QUOTE(jcheong @ Nov 5 2023, 12:52 AM)
I said CAR not SUV. There's always news about it appearing how good their car sales are but I was surprised to see they're only that close to Toyota's sales.

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Because proton do not launch volvo engine sedan.

This S70 will boost proton sales at 2024.
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QUOTE(DupeIkan @ Nov 4 2023, 11:48 PM)
can off phone screen like AA or AC???
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Cant. Last time on X50 then x70 got personal who share the apk software for AA, Netflix, YouTube, waze etc. Best thing ever
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QUOTE(death_nite @ Nov 5 2023, 02:18 AM)
QD link is stewwwpiddd. Hp screen wont turn off like AA or AC since it is a screen mirroring. And prone to problem like “cant play media when driving” but it is a f waze! Other error like QD link stop working when driving or hp suddenly lock while using it. When it lock of cos u lost the screen mirroring function. So no.
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Install AA, and then install Carstream for YouTube while driving
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QD link is stupid. Enough said
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QD link is stupid. Enough said
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Why
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Why
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Slow. And limited on what it can do.

Speaker volume also not harmonize. Eg. You set radio volume to just nice, but when switch to qd link connection to play music, suddenly the volume is too soft. And vice versa from qd link to radio

Qd link also will automatically connect your Bluetooth everytime.
Suddenly when Bluetooth is connected, cannot open radio anymore. So have to manually disconnect bluetooth everytime

Sounds silly and smal problem right?
But it gets real annoying if you have to do it every time

Some x50 users i know dont even bother to connect qd link at all

And dont get me started with their stupid internet link
In the middle of city like Shah Alam also no line. Pundek
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I echo what death nite mentioned earlier

In earlier version, you cant even open waze while driving with qd link.
Stupid as fuck, why even put this function then?

Luckily they solved this already, now can open waze while driving
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Nov 5 2023, 10:05 AM)
Install AA, and then install Carstream for YouTube while driving
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I just need waze to function properly. I only sideload waze and spotify. Good enough for me. I wont let my phone screen turn on all the time.

Later la i explore install AA.
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QUOTE(TAN WENG @ Nov 4 2023, 10:05 PM)
I think CVT transmission is designed more on relaxing type of driving.If push it sounds like a drone very noisy like washing machine.😆
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QUOTE(JoeK @ Nov 5 2023, 10:36 AM)
Slow. And limited on what it can do.

Speaker volume also not harmonize. Eg. You set radio volume to just nice, but when switch to qd link connection to play music, suddenly the volume is too soft. And vice versa from qd link to radio

Qd link also will automatically connect your Bluetooth everytime.
Suddenly when Bluetooth is connected, cannot open radio anymore. So have to manually disconnect bluetooth everytime

Sounds silly and smal problem right?
But it gets real annoying if you have to do it every time

Some x50 users i know dont even bother to connect qd link at all

And dont get me started with their stupid internet link
In the middle of city like Shah Alam also no line. Pundek
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Thanks for sharing.

May I know how others car brand like toyota or honda or nissan?

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qd link the only no good is the phone must on and mist connect via cable, the car moving cannot use scree are afety fuarure , Spotify same like phone can play when phone screen off , about data not available pls use the phone apps to play not the IMU apps so it will not lost data.
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qd link the only no good is the phone must on and mist connect via cable, the car moving cannot use scree are afety fuarure , Spotify same like phone can play when phone screen off , about data not available pls use the phone apps to play not the IMU apps so it will not lost data.
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May I know how others car brand like toyota or honda or nissan?
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May I know how others car brand like toyota or honda or nissan?
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ther company daddy pay to AA AP for the license so they can ise AA and AP, BMW owner need to pay few K only can use unless 7series are free.
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X90
- MPV Platform to hardsell as SUV
- Crappy interior quality
- Useless Mild Hybrid (more parts to maintain)
- 3 Pots kek

S70
- B/B+ Segment hardsell as C Segment (i bet you all Proton SA will tell you the competitor is Civic Turbo)
- Crappy 3 Pot

They should just put sell 70-85k max with 1.5 N/A

Those who buy Civic will buy Civic, those who buy City / Vios might sway if the specs and price is right. S70 will be like X90

Meanwhile, X50 and X70 owners start flooding the market with used one, bad aftersales and FC. Shame

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QUOTE(bereev @ Nov 6 2023, 09:15 AM)
ther company daddy pay to AA AP for the license so they can ise AA and AP, BMW owner need to pay few K only can use unless 7series are free.
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What is AA?
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X90
- MPV Platform to hardsell as SUV
- Crappy interior quality
- Useless Mild Hybrid (more parts to maintain)
- 3 Pots kek

S70
- B/B+ Segment hardsell as C Segment (i bet you all Proton SA will tell you the competitor is Civic Turbo)
- Crappy 3 Pot

They should just put sell 70-85k max with 1.5 N/A

Those who buy Civic will buy Civic, those who buy City / Vios might sway if the specs and price is right. S70 will be like X90

Meanwhile, X50 and X70 owners start flooding the market with used one, bad aftersales and FC. Shame
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3 pot?


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QD link is stewwwpiddd. Hp screen wont turn off like AA or AC since it is a screen mirroring. And prone to problem like “cant play media when driving” but it is a f waze! Other error like QD link stop working when driving or hp suddenly lock while using it. When it lock of cos u lost the screen mirroring function. So no.
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QD link is stupid. Enough said
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What is AA?
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Andriod Auto

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3 pot?
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My friend install 1 touch screen 8" on his proton wira last 2 month.


Rm 800.



That one is pirated?

Have youtube,google maps, play store

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My friend install 1 touch screen 8" on his proton wira last 2 month.
Rm 800.
That one is pirated?

Have youtube,google maps, play store
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sure la many in the market
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sure la many in the market
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why bmw need to pay few Thousand?
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QUOTE(chicaman @ Nov 6 2023, 10:35 AM)
X90
- MPV Platform to hardsell as SUV
- Crappy interior quality
- Useless Mild Hybrid (more parts to maintain)
- 3 Pots kek

S70
- B/B+ Segment hardsell as C Segment (i bet you all Proton SA will tell you the competitor is Civic Turbo)
- Crappy 3 Pot

They should just put sell 70-85k max with 1.5 N/A

Those who buy Civic will buy Civic, those who buy City / Vios might sway if the specs and price is right. S70 will be like X90

Meanwhile, X50 and X70 owners start flooding the market with used one, bad aftersales and FC. Shame
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but Perodua Ativa also flooding the market with used one.. what does that mean? whistling.gif
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but Perodua Ativa also flooding the market with used one.. what does that mean? whistling.gif
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ew tht ah pek design really, but pretty sure gonna sell like hot cake with tht price
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QUOTE(chicaman @ Nov 6 2023, 10:35 AM)
X90
- MPV Platform to hardsell as SUV
- Crappy interior quality
- Useless Mild Hybrid (more parts to maintain)
- 3 Pots kek

S70
- B/B+ Segment hardsell as C Segment (i bet you all Proton SA will tell you the competitor is Civic Turbo)
- Crappy 3 Pot

They should just put sell 70-85k max with 1.5 N/A

Those who buy Civic will buy Civic, those who buy City / Vios might sway if the specs and price is right. S70 will be like X90

Meanwhile, X50 and X70 owners start flooding the market with used one, bad aftersales and FC. Shame
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i was expecting RM79k - RM100k.. not more.. if they really going to sell at 120k.. it's hard to swallow.
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plotong saga 2.0 above 50k, no buy.
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QUOTE(myteam94 @ Nov 6 2023, 02:59 PM)
but Perodua Ativa also flooding the market with used one.. what does that mean? whistling.gif
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Well, Ativa the moment u step it, its a PERODUA, the cheap plastic and cheap seat. And yes their 3pot is pretty much crappy too, bad refinement

Anyhow, theres more X50 X70 used one compare to Ativa used one
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QUOTE(kidmad @ Nov 6 2023, 03:07 PM)
i was expecting RM79k - RM100k.. not more.. if they really going to sell at 120k.. it's hard to swallow.
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If look at their strategy, they always attack that segment and price 1 segment below


Obviously in this case for them to sell at Segment B price, they need to market as Segment C size. Supposed this car is 60-80k but they throw is crappy 1.5T 3 potter with DCT to compete with Civic Turbo and claim as C Segment, they will price at B Segment.

My take is 79k to 103k

Lets see if i am correct
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Nov 6 2023, 01:52 PM)
My friend install 1 touch screen 8" on his proton wira last 2 month.
Rm 800.
That one is pirated?

Have youtube,google maps, play store
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Not pirated, anyone can make android system is free. Apple don't charge carmakers for Apple Carplay afaik. Google I don't know. But we're talking about Android Auto/Apple Carplay, link your phone to the car, means you can use your phone Spotify or Waze, Siri, or reply and read WhatsApp or email. Proton cars don't have this function, the function they have now is lousy crap.
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Nov 6 2023, 01:52 PM)
My friend install 1 touch screen 8" on his proton wira last 2 month.
Rm 800.
That one is pirated?

Have youtube,google maps, play store
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that 1 is 1 custom android device with audio output to your car speaker


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QUOTE(chicaman @ Nov 6 2023, 04:42 PM)
If look at their strategy, they always attack that segment and price 1 segment below
Obviously in this case for them to sell at Segment B price, they need to market as Segment C size. Supposed this car is 60-80k but they throw is crappy 1.5T 3 potter with DCT to compete with Civic Turbo and claim as C Segment, they will price at B Segment.

My take is 79k to 103k

Lets see if i am correct
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hope that's the price they gonna sell.. going to buy one as a gift for my waifu.
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Proton copy tesla branding?
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Not pirated, anyone can make android system is free. Apple don't charge carmakers for Apple Carplay afaik. Google I don't know. But we're talking about Android Auto/Apple Carplay, link your phone to the car, means you can use your phone Spotify or Waze, Siri, or reply and read WhatsApp or email. Proton cars don't have this function, the function they have now is lousy crap.
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they why Bmw charger few k for the AA AC ?the unit aldy installed but need to pay only can use
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Apple CarPlay, Android Auto now free on MY2023 BMW Malaysia cars – no need for RM1,299 fee
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Before need to pay?

If no pay only radio and usb music ?

BMW 1 series, 2 series ,3 series ,4 series, 5 series, 7 series, M series, X series


All free?
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Proton copy tesla branding?
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Easy to remember


Like iphone and samsung galaxy


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If look at their strategy, they always attack that segment and price 1 segment below
Obviously in this case for them to sell at Segment B price, they need to market as Segment C size. Supposed this car is 60-80k but they throw is crappy 1.5T 3 potter with DCT to compete with Civic Turbo and claim as C Segment, they will price at B Segment.

My take is 79k to 103k

Lets see if i am correct
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The length of this car is c segment right?



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that 1 is 1 custom android device with audio output to your car speaker
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How about the toyota and honda new car?

Not custom?
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How about the toyota and honda new car?

Not custom?
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it used proper Android Auto and AppleCarPlay compliance device


u can think like that

just android device allow u to see video , youtube and see spotify lyrics while driving
as for AA CP compliance device ..u cant do that

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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Nov 6 2023, 06:27 PM)
it used proper Android Auto and AppleCarPlay compliance device
u can think like that

just android device allow u to see video , youtube and see spotify lyrics while driving
as for AA CP compliance device ..u cant do that
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Thanks for your explanation.


My friend car,Proton Wira, recently installed a android LCD monitor in his car where, when he reverses the car, the radio stops, and the camera displays the view behind the car.

If you are using GPS, and then you reverse the car, the GPS screen switches to the camera view also.

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QUOTE(bereev @ Nov 6 2023, 05:35 PM)
they why Bmw charger few k for the AA AC  ?the unit aldy installed but need to pay only can use
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Old news. Already free many years ago. https://www.theverge.com/2019/12/4/20995630...ual-fee-vehicle


Article here explaining why. Whether you accept the explanation is of course another story.
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a28580604...cost-explainer/
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Nov 6 2023, 06:19 PM)
Before need to pay?

If no pay only radio and usb music ?

BMW 1 series, 2 series ,3 series ,4 series, 5 series, 7 series, M series, X series
All free?
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<a href='https://<link removed>/2023/01/03/my2023-bmw-models-in-malaysia-standard-smartphone-integration-connected-package-professional/' target='_blank'>https://<link removed>/2023/01/03/my2023-bmw-m...e-professional/</a>
Google paultan article

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S for Sedan
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Proton copy tesla branding?
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Sibling brand, VOLVO style
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<a href='https://<link removed>/2023/01/03/my2023-bmw-models-in-malaysia-standard-smartphone-integration-connected-package-professional/' target='_blank'>https://<link removed>/2023/01/03/my2023-bmw-m...e-professional/</a>
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Paultan?

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The length of this car is c segment right?
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Length and width almost on par with cibik

But wheelbase still in the B-segment range
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<a href='https://<link removed>/2023/01/03/my2023-bmw-models-in-malaysia-standard-smartphone-integration-connected-package-professional/' target='_blank'>https://<link removed>/2023/01/03/my2023-bmw-m...e-professional/</a>
Google paultan article
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Thanks.


BMW Malaysia has announced that Smartphone Integration as well as Connected Package Professional will both come as standard for BMW models from the 2023 model year onwards.

Smartphone Integration, which features Android Auto and Apple CarPlay, allows users to pair their devices to iDrive infotainment systems powered by BMW Operating System 7 or 8. On cars with iDrive 8 like the i4, iX and upcoming offerings (3 Series facelift and XM), the integration of CarPlay includes adapting Apple Maps to the digital instrument cluster and head-up display.



Meanwhile, Connected Package Professional includes Remote Services, which enables owners to remotely access certain vehicle functions like


locking/unlocking doors,
activating the headlamps or horn,
climate pre-conditioning and telematics via the
My BMW App.


If I buy a second-hand 2018 BMW 318i ,do I already have the full functionality of Android Auto in the car?

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If I buy a second-hand 2018 BMW 318i ,do I already have the full functionality of Android Auto in the car?
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No the HU doesn’t support it.
You need to change to newer HU
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No the HU doesn’t support it.
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What is HU?

If second hand 2020 or 2021 BMW 3 series?
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What is HU?

If second hand 2020 or 2021 BMW 3 series?
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Should be ok do double check.
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QUOTE(death_nite @ Nov 5 2023, 02:18 AM)
QD link is stewwwpiddd. Hp screen wont turn off like AA or AC since it is a screen mirroring. And prone to problem like “cant play media when driving” but it is a f waze! Other error like QD link stop working when driving or hp suddenly lock while using it. When it lock of cos u lost the screen mirroring function. So no.
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cukur RtK bough HU with AA/AC for 60 bux

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=5414202&hl=
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The length of this car is c segment right?
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A car segment is not based on length, its based on length of wheelbase. The wheelbase of S70 is same like B Segment


In before some retard trying to argue NOWADAYS segment is based on price. Totally mindblown
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QUOTE(chicaman @ Nov 7 2023, 10:12 AM)
A car segment is not based on length, its based on length of wheelbase. The wheelbase of S70 is same like B Segment
In before some retard trying to argue NOWADAYS segment is based on price. Totally mindblown
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QUOTE(chicaman @ Nov 7 2023, 10:12 AM)
A car segment is not based on length, its based on length of wheelbase. The wheelbase of S70 is same like B Segment
In before some retard trying to argue NOWADAYS segment is based on price. Totally mindblown
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QUOTE(chicaman @ Nov 7 2023, 10:12 AM)
A car segment is not based on length, its based on length of wheelbase. The wheelbase of S70 is same like B Segment
In before some retard trying to argue NOWADAYS segment is based on price. Totally mindblown
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What's the minimum wheelbase length for a car, to qualify them as C segment?
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What's the minimum wheelbase length for a car, to qualify them as C segment?
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Im no expert, but in my opinion, for Malaysia, 2700mm and above

Dont forget that S70 is based on Geely BMA, not CMA

That itself pretty much speak for itself

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Wheelbase is important but from what I see, Honda City's rear seat is more spacious and comfortable than a Mazda 3. So it also depends on the design as well.

Also shorter wheelbase will be easier to drive around the corners, if you can get the same spaciousness with shorter wheelbase I think it's a better option.


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QUOTE(chicaman @ Nov 7 2023, 10:12 AM)
A car segment is not based on length, its based on length of wheelbase. The wheelbase of S70 is same like B Segment
In before some retard trying to argue NOWADAYS segment is based on price. Totally mindblown
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because wheelbase segmentation also very vague, like how new Vios wheelbase so much longer almost C, and Civic almost D
back then 1985 Saga is C, Saga BLM/FL is B, current Saga is A, so segmentation itself is not clear cut
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Airbag how ?
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Airbag how ?
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most likely similar with X50, minimum 2, maximum 6
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Should be 4 or 6
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What's the minimum wheelbase length for a car, to qualify them as C segment?
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Segmentation itself is very vague, wheelbase is not the way to differentiate. You can extend a car wheelbase like Saga Limousine, end of day still Saga segment. C segments usually use higher quality and spec material/features. See X50 and X70 difference, interior size I would say not that much different. But one is torsion beam, one is multilink. Cabin materials also different class even if X50 is better design but materials feel cheaper than X70.

Another example of how segment is so vague is X90 vs X70. In actual fact the X90 in China is cheaper car than X70 and therefore use lower class materials. Proton/Geely Malaysia try to upsell X90 as higher priced than X70. That's one of the reason for X90 fire issues, Proton add extra insulation compared to ori Geely and the insulation catch fire because Geely bad grounding design.
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Habis la... toyoya honda mazda
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Segmentation itself is very vague, wheelbase is not the way to differentiate. You can extend a car wheelbase like Saga Limousine, end of day still Saga segment. C segments usually use higher quality and spec material/features. See X50 and X70 difference, interior size I would say not that much different. But one is torsion beam, one is multilink. Cabin materials also different class even if X50 is better design but materials feel cheaper than X70.

Another example of how segment is so vague is X90 vs X70. In actual fact the X90 in China is cheaper car than X70 and therefore use lower class materials. Proton/Geely Malaysia try to upsell X90 as higher priced than X70. That's one of the reason for X90 fire issues, Proton add extra insulation compared to ori Geely and the insulation catch fire because Geely bad grounding design.
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Did the Geely Haoyue catch fire in China too?

Is it still the case that Proton hasn't fixed the insulation problem in the X90, and can it still catch fire?

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Geely Haoyue fire at china also?
So until now proton x90 never solve insulation issue and still fire?
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Geely Haoyue is lower price/segment than Geely Boyue/X70 in China, so dont have the extra insulation, only Proton/Geely Malaysia add insulation because want to charge more than X70. But the underlying issue still same what, unless they say redesign the grounding point. Issue is not insulation, insulation just the bahan minyak to burn. X90 they say recall la but didnt explain what they do to fix.
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QUOTE(Gargamel_gibson @ Nov 7 2023, 03:06 PM)
Geely Haoyue is lower price/segment than Geely Boyue/X70 in China, so dont have the extra insulation, only Proton/Geely Malaysia add insulation because want to charge more than X70. But the underlying issue still same what, unless they say redesign the grounding point. Issue is not insulation, insulation just the bahan minyak to burn. X90 they say recall la but didnt explain what they do to fix.
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https://www.enanyang.my/%E8%B4%A2%E7%BB%8F%...%AC%E5%9B%9Ex90


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13 september 2023 already announce?

So autobuzz slow report news?


https://autobuzz.my/2023/10/05/2023-proton-...ts-sold-so-far/


5 october 2023

2023 Proton X90: Minor production delay due to grounding issue –

3,435 units sold so far

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X90 is the brand’s first hybrid car and as such, many were quick to speculate that the hybrid battery was the cause of the fire in the viral video.



Besides being the brand’s first hybrid car, the Proton X90 also brings many Proton-first features to its customers. Some of these include rear-cross traffic alert (RCTA), Rear Collision Warning (RCW), traffic sign information (TSI), and walk-away lock function.



Available as both a

6-seater (Flagship) and a


7-seater (Standard, Executive, Premium),

the Proton X90 is priced from


RM123,800 for the base Standard variant up to RM152,800 for the Flagship variant.


The Proton X90 indirectly replaces the Proton Exora as the large family car from the brand.






Gg.com


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Should compensate owner some service cash voucher or petrol voucher.



Who dare to buy proton car?

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A car segment is not based on length, its based on length of wheelbase. The wheelbase of S70 is same like B Segment
In before some retard trying to argue NOWADAYS segment is based on price. Totally mindblown
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Whilst wheelbase measurement is probably the most accurate to classify a car's segment, the standard is also getting longer and longer over time. E.g. Mitsu Lancer/Proton Inspira was a C segment and had a shorter wheelbase (2635mm) than S70. sweat.gif Preve and VW Jetta (gen 6) were C segment cars. They had the same wheelbase as S70 (2650mm).

QUOTE(chicaman @ Nov 7 2023, 10:54 AM)
Im no expert, but in my opinion, for Malaysia, 2700mm and above

Dont forget that S70 is based on Geely BMA, not CMA

That itself pretty much speak for itself
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Ya. I agree with you. 2700mm seems like the magic number among Japanese makers.

QUOTE(lowyat101 @ Nov 7 2023, 11:02 AM)
Wheelbase is important but from what I see, Honda City's rear seat is more spacious and comfortable than a Mazda 3. So it also depends on the design as well.

Also shorter wheelbase will be easier to drive around the corners, if you can get the same spaciousness with shorter wheelbase I think it's a better option.
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Wheelbase != rear seat legroom ya. Car designs from Honda and Perodua are especially good in optimizing legroom. Same legroom with shorter wheelbase? That's a fkin Myvi and do you know how's the ride? It's quite jarring.

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Segmentation itself is very vague, wheelbase is not the way to differentiate. You can extend a car wheelbase like Saga Limousine, end of day still Saga segment. C segments usually use higher quality and spec material/features. See X50 and X70 difference, interior size I would say not that much different. But one is torsion beam, one is multilink. Cabin materials also different class even if X50 is better design but materials feel cheaper than X70.

Another example of how segment is so vague is X90 vs X70. In actual fact the X90 in China is cheaper car than X70 and therefore use lower class materials. Proton/Geely Malaysia try to upsell X90 as higher priced than X70. That's one of the reason for X90 fire issues, Proton add extra insulation compared to ori Geely and the insulation catch fire because Geely bad grounding design.
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Yes it is vague and no hard rules. Also it moves with time. Guess what, our very first gen Saga (not the limo) was a C segment!

I think we can all agree that this argument started in the first place was solely due to Proton's opportunistic move, by naming it S70 instead of S50. But IMHO, this move is possible due to weak engines of other B segment cars in our market.
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because wheelbase segmentation also very vague, like how new Vios wheelbase so much longer almost C, and Civic almost D
back then 1985 Saga is C, Saga BLM/FL is B, current Saga is A, so segmentation itself is not clear cut
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QUOTE(davidletterboyz @ Nov 7 2023, 09:54 PM)
Whilst wheelbase measurement is probably the most accurate to classify a car's segment, the standard is also getting longer and longer over time. E.g. Mitsu Lancer/Proton Inspira was a C segment and had a shorter wheelbase (2635mm) than S70. sweat.gif Preve and VW Jetta (gen 6) were C segment cars. They had the same wheelbase as S70 (2650mm).
Ya. I agree with you. 2700mm seems like the magic number among Japanese makers.
Wheelbase != rear seat legroom ya. Car designs from Honda and Perodua are especially good in optimizing legroom. Same legroom with shorter wheelbase? That's a fkin Myvi and do you know how's the ride? It's quite jarring.
Yes it is vague and no hard rules. Also it moves with time. Guess what, our very first gen Saga (not the limo) was a C segment!

I think we can all agree that this argument started in the first place was solely due to Proton's opportunistic move, by naming it S70 instead of S50. But IMHO, this move is possible due to weak engines of other B segment cars in our market.
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See the BMW 3 Series along the years. It become a 5 series sizes nowadays. Use to be small, lack of legroom at rear, now ok already
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See the BMW 3 Series along the years. It become a 5 series sizes nowadays. Use to be small, lack of legroom at rear, now ok already
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This one legroom big ?
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Toyota ,honda,nissan also CVT
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2017 BMW    318i    1.5(A)

This one legroom big ?
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Surprise no one speaks about the 1.5T 3 Cylinder MPI engine?
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Toyota ,honda,nissan also CVT
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I think we can all agree that this argument started in the first place was solely due to Proton's opportunistic move, by naming it S70 instead of S50. But IMHO, this move is possible due to weak engines of other B segment cars in our market.
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Non-ethical. You assume the corresponding S-series(Sedan) of X70(X-over SUV) to be based on the same X70 C segment platform. Instead is based on BMA platform. Proton actually did it before with old Persona, sell C segment car at B segment price, top spec only 60k compared to smaller Honda City top spec 90k. But old Persona was genuine C segment at the time, wheelbase is 2600mm compared to City 2450mm.
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Surprise no one speaks about the 1.5T 3 Cylinder MPI engine?
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Non-ethical. You assume the corresponding S-series(Sedan) of X70(X-over SUV) to be based on the same X70 C segment platform. Instead is based on BMA platform. Proton actually did it before with old Persona, sell C segment car at B segment price, top spec only 60k compared to smaller Honda City top spec 90k. But old Persona was genuine C segment at the time, wheelbase is 2600mm compared to City 2450mm.
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My car 2750mm wheelbase also B segment only. Nowdays manufacturer can position whatever segment they want.
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QUOTE(Gargamel_gibson @ Nov 8 2023, 03:17 PM)
Non-ethical. You assume the corresponding S-series(Sedan) of X70(X-over SUV) to be based on the same X70 C segment platform. Instead is based on BMA platform. Proton actually did it before with old Persona, sell C segment car at B segment price, top spec only 60k compared to smaller Honda City top spec 90k. But old Persona was genuine C segment at the time, wheelbase is 2600mm compared to City 2450mm.
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Yup. I had that Persona actually, Elegance. It's a nice car and kira worth the ride la. Compact C. But the engine wasn't a C segment.

This round, S70 has the C segment engine but not the dimension of current gen of C segment.

I hope the booking is low and they reduce the price haha.
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My car 2750mm wheelbase also B segment only.  Nowdays manufacturer can position whatever segment they want.
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what car is that??
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Yup. I had that Persona actually, Elegance. It's a nice car and kira worth the ride la. Compact C. But the engine wasn't a C segment.

This round, S70 has the C segment engine but not the dimension of current gen of C segment.

I hope the booking is low and they reduce the price haha.
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1.6 is C segment for the time also. Toyota Mazda Nissan all had 1.6, on lower spec la admittedly.
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My car 2750mm wheelbase also B segment only.  Nowdays manufacturer can position whatever segment they want.
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QUOTE(davidletterboyz @ Nov 8 2023, 05:04 PM)
what car is that??
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Yup. I had that Persona actually, Elegance. It's a nice car and kira worth the ride la. Compact C. But the engine wasn't a C segment.

This round, S70 has the C segment engine but not the dimension of current gen of C segment.

I hope the booking is low and they reduce the price haha.
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ride and drive the Persona last batch Elegance last time, the Engine is massive weak points. low end torque is obvious. Another office car, Waja CPS on the other hand more animal at highway.
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ride and drive the Persona last batch Elegance last time, the Engine is massive weak points. low end torque is obvious. Another office car, Waja CPS on the other hand more animal at highway.
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Saga is better than persona right?
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Which segment doesn't matter. Not like it stated on your car grant.

Just be like delusional Mazda owners. All Mazda models are C and D segment only. Sometimes can be considered as luxury segment too.


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ride and drive the Persona last batch Elegance last time, the Engine is massive weak points. low end torque is obvious. Another office car, Waja CPS on the other hand more animal at highway.
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Yup. The ride was really good, although not Waja level. Just the engine was really the weakest point.

QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Nov 8 2023, 06:01 PM)
Saga is better than persona right?
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QUOTE(Tacotaco @ Nov 8 2023, 06:13 PM)
Which segment doesn't matter. Not like it stated on your car grant.

Just be like delusional Mazda owners. All Mazda models are C and D segment only. Sometimes can be considered as luxury segment too.
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Mazda2 is a B segment. sweat.gif
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Saga is better than persona right?
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Not really. Persona interior quality still better than Saga. Ride quality and handling also better. More quiet more comfortable.
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Yup. The ride was really good, although not Waja level. Just the engine was really the weakest point.
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Persona better than saga?
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Persona better than saga?
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Of course. Price also higher than Saga. sweat.gif
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Of course. Price also higher than Saga.  sweat.gif
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But saga looks pretty than persona

What is persona have but saga do not have?


Just expensive few k right?

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Malaysian company at the right hand can grow to World beater. Last time proton no bonus for so long. Now every year under geely confirm ada bonus.
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Malaysian company at the right hand can grow to World beater. Last time proton no bonus for so long. Now every year under geely confirm ada bonus.
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Maybe those who work within hq itself. I can guarantee you suppliers and dealers are really not happy with Geely. I talked with 4S branch service manager before, they really really not happy, and not because they lazy la Geely force them to work hard la bla bla bla.
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But saga looks pretty than persona

What is persona have but saga do not have?
Just expensive few k right?
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Current Saga based on very old platform from Proton Savvy. Savvy became BLM, became FLX, then became 2016 Saga, until now. Persona is much newer platform with HPF steel, more rigid means much higher safety and much better ride handling balance. This is why Persona 5 star but Saga only 4 star. Persona inside also higher quality plastic and quieter.
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Maybe those who work within hq itself. I can guarantee you suppliers and dealers are really not happy with Geely. I talked with 4S branch service manager before, they really really not happy, and not because they lazy la Geely force them to work hard la bla bla bla.
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QUOTE(Gargamel_gibson @ Nov 8 2023, 03:17 PM)
Non-ethical. You assume the corresponding S-series(Sedan) of X70(X-over SUV) to be based on the same X70 C segment platform. Instead is based on BMA platform. Proton actually did it before with old Persona, sell C segment car at B segment price, top spec only 60k compared to smaller Honda City top spec 90k. But old Persona was genuine C segment at the time, wheelbase is 2600mm compared to City 2450mm.
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Who cares about the underlying platform when car manufacturers are the ones that classifies which car goes into which segment.

Also the Emgrand, the donor car for the S70 IS classified as a C-Segment car. Proton would have to follow suit as well.
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QUOTE(Gargamel_gibson @ Nov 8 2023, 10:50 PM)
Maybe those who work within hq itself. I can guarantee you suppliers and dealers are really not happy with Geely. I talked with 4S branch service manager before, they really really not happy, and not because they lazy la Geely force them to work hard la bla bla bla.
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T and H also have the same thing. All supplier and dealer not happy but they still survived till today. Thats what KPI is for. Cant have the same KPI every year. Need to push everyone to get a better result.
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T and H also have the same thing. All supplier and dealer not happy but they still survived till today. Thats what KPI is for. Cant have the same KPI every year. Need to push everyone to get a better result.
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I explained already, not because of KPI lazy or what. Spare part issue was a big problem, SC facing customer everyday kena fark but HQ cannot give spare parts, SC in the middle. Even HQ I don't think is problem free, the few X series model Proton paid A LOT OF money to Geely. Like really a lot, 800+ million just for licensing fee and RM 5 billion worth of CBU CKD spare parts. And this is only for 3 models and from 2018-2020.
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Who cares about the underlying platform when car manufacturers are the ones that classifies which car goes into which segment.

Also the Emgrand, the donor car for the S70 IS classified as a C-Segment car. Proton would have to follow suit as well.
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I care because B segment engineering is just not C segment level fullstop. Proper C segment should have multilink suspension instead of torsion beam. And the interior quality of BMA platform compared to X70 proper C segment platform, you go showroom and compare X70 and X50 you will know. Platform is important.
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I care because B segment engineering is just not C segment level fullstop. Proper C segment should have multilink suspension instead of torsion beam. And the interior quality of BMA platform compared to X70 proper C segment platform, you go showroom and compare X70 and X50 you will know. Platform is important.
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I explained already, not because of KPI lazy or what. Spare part issue was a big problem, SC facing customer everyday kena fark but HQ cannot give spare parts, SC in the middle. Even HQ I don't think is problem free, the few X series model Proton paid A LOT OF money to Geely. Like really a lot, 800+ million just for licensing fee and RM 5 billion worth of CBU CKD spare parts. And this is only for 3 models and from 2018-2020.
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Proton paid A LOT OF money to Geely. Like really a lot, 800+ million just for licensing fee and RM 5 billion worth of CBU CKD spare parts. And this is only for 3 models and from 2018-2020.

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Source?

I though geely pump in many money to help proton?


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Proton paid A LOT OF money to Geely. Like really a lot, 800+ million just for licensing fee and RM 5 billion worth of CBU CKD spare parts. And this is only for 3 models and from 2018-2020.

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Source?

I though geely pump in many money to help proton?
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Paulinetan.org/2018/09/28/proton-secures-license-to-produce-and-sell-three-geely-models-for-asean-boyue-sx11-suv-vf11-mpv/
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This one special case. Mazda got do special engineering to make NVH even lower than multilink. This one acceptable.
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QUOTE(Gargamel_gibson @ Nov 9 2023, 02:18 PM)
Paulinetan.org/2018/09/28/proton-secures-license-to-produce-and-sell-three-geely-models-for-asean-boyue-sx11-suv-vf11-mpv/
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https://l1nq.com/z8Jnx


Thanks for your link.

Just shorten also can....


Geely Automobile Holdings Limited (0175.HK), a company listed on the Hong Kong Stock Exchange, shared information.


They control Zhejiang Geely Holding Group, which has 49.9 % stake in Proton.


Geely is paying a license fee of RMB 1,344,000,000 (approximately RM808.3 million) for certain intellectual properties (IPs).


This fee will be paid in 5 equal yearly payments by Zhejiang Geely Holding Group.



But








In 2017, Zhejiang Geely Holding Group (ZGH) acquired a 49.9% stake in Proton for RM460 million.



Out of this amount, RM170 million was invested directly into Proton,




and the remaining RM290 million was accounted for by transferring Geely's successful Boyue SUV platform to Proton, which was later named the Proton X70.

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QUOTE(Gargamel_gibson @ Nov 9 2023, 02:09 PM)
I explained already, not because of KPI lazy or what. Spare part issue was a big problem, SC facing customer everyday kena fark but HQ cannot give spare parts, SC in the middle. Even HQ I don't think is problem free, the few X series model Proton paid A LOT OF money to Geely. Like really a lot, 800+ million just for licensing fee and RM 5 billion worth of CBU CKD spare parts. And this is only for 3 models and from 2018-2020.
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https://l1nq.com/z8Jnx
Thanks for your link.

Just shorten also can....
Geely Automobile Holdings Limited (0175.HK),  a company listed on the Hong Kong Stock Exchange, shared information.
They control Zhejiang Geely Holding Group, which has 49.9 % stake in Proton.
Geely is paying a license fee of RMB 1,344,000,000 (approximately RM808.3 million) for certain intellectual properties (IPs).
This fee will be paid in 5 equal yearly payments by Zhejiang Geely Holding Group.
But
In 2017, Zhejiang Geely Holding Group (ZGH) acquired a 49.9% stake in Proton for RM460 million.
Out of this amount, RM170 million was invested directly into Proton,
and the remaining RM290 million was accounted for by transferring Geely's successful Boyue SUV platform to Proton, which was later named the Proton X70.
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Basically Geely come out with cash 170 million for Proton to give them control of Tanjung Malim Proton City plant worth more than billion. And some more have to pay billions to buy from Geely to sell as X series models. Najib sold Proton out big time.
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Basically Geely come out with cash 170 million for Proton to give them control of Tanjung Malim Proton City plant worth more than billion. And some more have to pay billions to buy from Geely to sell as X series models. Najib sold Proton out big time.
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The acquisition of a 49.9% stake in Proton by Geely was seen as a win-win solution.


Without Geely's involvement, Proton might have faced the risk of bankruptcy around 2021 or 2022.



Geely's investment and collaboration brought financial support and strategic benefits, contributing to Proton's stability and growth.




Proton's boosted sales in 2019 - 2023 indicate positive progress and increased market demand.

It seems like the collaboration with Geely has been beneficial for Proton's success.


People close to the matter told Reuters that Geely had hoped for a stake of at least 51 percent.


But industry experts said Geely can still take a lead in defining Proton’s future having significantly strengthened its vehicle technologies since buying Volvo.


"Geely has validated the model of using their Volvo technology platform to create good products. That should be the same for Proton,”

said James Chao, Shanghai-based Asia-Pacific chief of consultancy IHS Markit Automotive.



Is it correct?

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The acquisition of a 49.9% stake in Proton by Geely was seen as a win-win solution.
Without Geely's involvement, Proton might have faced the risk of bankruptcy around 2021 or 2022.
Geely's investment and collaboration brought financial support and strategic benefits, contributing to Proton's stability and growth.
Proton's boosted sales in 2019 - 2023 indicate positive progress and increased market demand.

It seems like the collaboration with Geely has been beneficial for Proton's success.
People close to the matter told Reuters that Geely had hoped for a stake of at least 51 percent.
But industry experts said Geely can still take a lead in defining Proton’s future having significantly strengthened its vehicle technologies since buying Volvo.
"Geely has validated the model of using their Volvo technology platform to create good products. That should be the same for Proton,”

said James Chao, Shanghai-based Asia-Pacific chief of consultancy IHS Markit Automotive.
Is it correct?
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Last time in the end proton got 2 routes, one is Geely, another is Peugeot.
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Last time in the end proton got 2 routes, one is Geely, another is Peugeot.
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2007 even volkswagen want to buy proton...


21 Nov 2007
Why Proton-Volkswagen was a no-go

I’m sure many of you who have been following the whole Proton-Volkwagen strategic tie-up soap opera are wondering, “What’s with the rather unexpected end result?”

MALAYSIA: Proton and VW close to tie-up – report
Proton and Volkswagen are close to sealing a tie-up that would see VW take a 51% stake in a new company, according to a Malaysian newspaper report.

June 7, 2007


Proton and Volkswagen are close to sealing a tie-up that would see VW take a 51% stake in a new company, according to a Malaysian newspaper report.


Citing unnamed sources, The Edge Financial Daily said a new company would be created which will see VW controlling key operations with the 51% stake.


Proton Holdings will hold the remaining 49% in the new company, which would encompass key assets including British subsidiary Lotus, as well as manufacturing, research and development, and engineering activities, the report said.


A 42.7% stake in Proton Holdings currently held by the government’s investment arm, Khazanah Nasional, may also be taken over by state-linked conglomerate Sime Darby, The Edge reported.


The newspaper said details were expected to be finalised at a meeting underway in New York between representatives from Volkswagen, Khazanah, Sime Darby and the prime minister’s office.


With Volkswagen’s expertise and platforms, the new company is expected to launch new Proton models under the Malaysian carmaker’s brand name while most of the existing ones will be phased out, it said.


https://www.klsescreener.com/v2/announcements/view/1381604

PROTON HOLDINGS BHD
KLSE (MYR): PROTON (5304)



INCORPORATED ON 7 MAY 1983,

PROTON PIONEERED MALAYSIA’S

VENTURE INTO THE HEAVY INDUSTRIES AND ITS MAIN OBJECTIVES ARE:


• To spearhead the automotive industrialisation process and manufacturing industries;



.PROTON MARKETING SDN. BHD. [100%]

◆ Proton Edar Sdn. Bhd. [100%]

■ Proton Edar Resources
Sdn. Bhd. [100%]
■ Proton Edar Ventures
Sdn. Bhd. [100%]



■ Proton Singapore Pte. Ltd. [100%]
■ PT Proton Edar Indonesia [95%]


These 2 no more !!!!!!!!

■ Proton Commerce Sdn. Bhd. [50%]
■ Netstar Advanced Systems
Sdn. Bhd. [40%]



◆ Proton Parts Centre Sdn. Bhd. [55%]


◆ Proton Cars (UK) Ltd. [100%]
■ Smith & Sons Motors Ltd. [100%]
■ Proton Direct Ltd. [100%]
■ Proton Cars (Imports) Ltd. [100%]
■ Proton Cars Direct Ltd. [100%]
■ Proton Finance Ltd. [49.99%]
◆ Proton Cars (Europe) Ltd. [55.56%]
◆ Proton Cars Australia Pty. Ltd. [100%]


From 64,740 units sold in 2018,

Proton sales exceeded 100,000 units in 2019 and

stood at over 140,000 units in 2022,

taking up the second spot in Malaysia with a 19.6% market share.




Proton targets to sell 2,000 units of the S70 a month

Thursday, November 9th, 2023

TANJUNG MALIM – Proton Holdings Bhd is targeting sales of about 2,000 units a month for its latest sedan model, the Proton S70.

Proton deputy chief executive officer Roslan Abdullah said it had received bookings for about 400 units in the first week following the line-off ceremony for the model on Oct 31.


All Proton outlets will accept bookings with a RM500 deposit starting Nov 1, Roslan told the media during Chinese Vice President Han Zheng’s visit to Proton’s Tanjung Malim plant today.


The S70 is the first sedan to be added to the Proton line-up since the launch of the Proton Persona sedan in August 2016.

Roslan said the date of the official launch along with the attractive S70 package and price will be announced later.

Commenting on the Proton X90 sports utility recall due to a wiring defect that led to a “thermal incident”, Roslan said 93 per cent of the recalled vehicles have been repaired.



“There are about 3,000 that we have sold. Until now, our team is still tracking the rest of the X90 owners to make an appointment for the rectification,” he said.

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Yup. Cannot fight the germans in terms of fuel efficiency let alone the Japanese.
The 3 series design is so much nicer than this S70. This looks like ur typical china car
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Proton targets to sell 2,000 units of the S70 a month

Thursday, November 9th, 2023

TANJUNG MALIM – Proton Holdings Bhd is targeting sales of about 2,000 units a month for its latest sedan model, the Proton S70.

Proton deputy chief executive officer Roslan Abdullah said it had received bookings for about 400 units in the first week following the line-off ceremony for the model on Oct 31.


All Proton outlets will accept bookings with a RM500 deposit starting Nov 1, Roslan told the media during Chinese Vice President Han Zheng’s visit to Proton’s Tanjung Malim plant today.


The S70 is the first sedan to be added to the Proton line-up since the launch of the Proton Persona sedan in August 2016.

Roslan said the date of the official launch along with the attractive S70 package and price will be announced later.

Commenting on the Proton X90 sports utility recall due to a wiring defect that led to a “thermal incident”, Roslan said 93 per cent of the recalled vehicles have been repaired.



“There are about 3,000 that we have sold. Until now, our team is still tracking the rest of the X90 owners to make an appointment for the rectification,” he said.


But proton is very confidence this time......

PROTON INSPIRA (MITSUBISHI LANCER) LEGEND WILL be present again!!


Proton S70 2023 ( VOLVO S80) (Geely Emgrand)


The Emgrand, (also known as its numerics, the GC9) incorporates design elements and technology derived from Volvo, including a similar front grille design and its platform is based on the S80.




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wont support this evil national shame.

sucking malaysian blood 40 years++
still cant help malaysia earn anything

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Proton paid A LOT OF money to Geely. Like really a lot, 800+ million just for licensing fee and RM 5 billion worth of CBU CKD spare parts. And this is only for 3 models and from 2018-2020.

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Source?

I though geely pump in many money to help proton?
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walao....

you didn't kerja in a private company before?

cannot simply "GIVE" or "TRANSFER" de

for sure it is NOT FREE
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RtK got oso... With QR code
Too bad RtK got wedding to go
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May I know the venue?

Johor have?


Why you receive this email?

Formerly proton owner???
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Johor have?
Why you receive this email?

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AmOne Auto Sdn Bhd

Lot 13698 , Jalan Bridge 21/64,
Jalan PJU 6a/3a,
Kampung Sungai Kayu Ara,
47400 Petaling Jaya,
Selangor,
Malaysia.





Regal Motors Holdings Sdn Bhd

7B, Jalan Bersatu 13/4,
Section 13,
46200 Petaling Jaya,
Selangor,
Malaysia.





Authorized Proton 4S Dealer

23, Jalan 51A/223,
46100 Petaling Jaya,
Malaysia


AIMAN MOTOR SDN. BHD.
Near Asia Jaya LRT




EVENT NAME Proton S70 Exclusive Preview
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
EVENT ORGANIZER Proton and Geely
VENUE Raw Studio, 33, Jalan PJU 3/48, Sunway Damansara Technology, 47810 Petaling Jaya, Selangor
DATE & TIME 19 November 2023 (sunday), 5 pm - 6 pm
TICKET PRICE Free Admission
DRESS CODE Smart Casual (No sandals and short pants)
DESCRIPTION It's time to explore interactive exhibits, enjoy exciting giveaways, and experience unbeatable flagship C-segment sedan S70 launch exclusives. Join us on an experiential journey through tomorrow's technology and be among the first to view our brand-new Proton S70 models at the launch event in Petaling Jaya.

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with RSVP only. Thats why I crop it out.
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AmOne Auto Sdn Bhd

Lot 13698 , Jalan Bridge 21/64,
Jalan PJU 6a/3a,
Kampung Sungai Kayu Ara,
47400 Petaling Jaya,
Selangor,
Malaysia.





Regal Motors Holdings Sdn Bhd

7B, Jalan Bersatu 13/4,
Section 13,
46200 Petaling Jaya,
Selangor,
Malaysia.





Authorized Proton 4S Dealer

23, Jalan 51A/223,
46100 Petaling Jaya,
Malaysia


AIMAN MOTOR SDN. BHD.
Near Asia Jaya LRT




EVENT NAME Proton S70 Exclusive Preview
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EVENT ORGANIZER Proton and Geely
VENUE Raw Studio, 33, Jalan PJU 3/48, Sunway Damansara Technology, 47810 Petaling Jaya, Selangor
DATE & TIME 19 November 2023, 5 pm - 6 pm
TICKET PRICE Free Admission
DRESS CODE Smart Casual (No sandals and short pants)
DESCRIPTION It's time to explore interactive exhibits, enjoy exciting giveaways, and experience unbeatable flagship C-segment sedan S70 launch exclusives. Join us on an experiential journey through tomorrow's technology and be among the first to view our brand-new Proton S70 models at the launch event in Petaling Jaya.

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AmOne Auto Sdn Bhd

Lot 13698 , Jalan Bridge 21/64,
Jalan PJU 6a/3a,
Kampung Sungai Kayu Ara,
47400 Petaling Jaya,
Selangor,
Malaysia.
Regal Motors Holdings Sdn Bhd

7B, Jalan Bersatu 13/4,
Section 13,
46200 Petaling Jaya,
Selangor,
Malaysia.
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XJP assistant visit Proton factory
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this proton workers not look like local, means Geely send assembly worker from China to Tg. Malim?
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Profile Eric Li
Net Worth $15.6 Billions
Percentage Owned $213M (1.35%)
Ranking #107 in the world today



Chinese Automaker Geely Ups Its Stake in U.K.'s Aston Martin
The Chinese parent company to Volvo, Polestar, Lotus and others is now Aston Martin's third-largest shareholder.



May 19, 2023

Geely doubles its stake in Aston Martin to 17% at a cost of £234 million ($291 million), giving it a non-executive seat on the board and extending its financial influence over the British sports car maker.

The move makes the Chinese automaker the third-largest shareholder in Aston Martin, behind the Saudi Arabian Public Investment Fund, which commands an 18% shareholding, and the Yew Tree Consortium, currently Aston Martin's largest shareholder at 21%.

Geely’s stake places it ahead of Mercedes-Benz in the shareholding structure of Aston Martin.

Geely purchased 42 million shares from the Lawrence Stroll-controlled Yew Tree Consortium and was issued 28 million new shares in the deal announced May 18.


Stroll (pictured, below left), a Canadian billionaire businessman, is executive chairman of Aston Martin and owner of the Aston Martin F1 Team.

Geely says the increased shareholding will provide Aston Martin with an additional £95 million ($159 million) in funding.

As part of stipulations tied to the deal, Geely has agreed to acquire no more than 22% of Aston Martin before August 2024 unless it makes a formal offer that is endorsed by the Aston Martin board.

The Chinese automaker can also increase its stake in the British luxury marque if a third party, not acting in the interests of Geely, announces a formal offer for Aston Martin.

The Yew Tree Consortium has agreed not to buy or sell any ordinary shares in Aston Martin for the next 90 days and will not exceed a 25% stake in the company until August 2024.

Revenue at Aston Martin grew 26% to £1.35 billion ($1.67 billion) last year, largely because of price increases. Its core average per-unit selling price in 2022 rose 18% to £177,000 ($219,400).


The British company reported an adjusted operating loss of £118 million ($146.3 million) for the year ended Dec. 31, 2022.

Known throughout its storied history for sports cars. Aston Martin’s best selling model today is the DBX SUV.


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In February 24, 2018, Geely Group acquired a 9.69% stake in Daimler AG, becoming its largest shareholder with nearly $9 billion.


This rapid expansion under Li Shufu's leadership significantly increased his wealth, estimated at $110 billion in 2017 alongside his son Li Xingxing.


Geely's high-profile moves and Li Shufu's visible role in the media spotlight have led to speculations about his family, especially regarding his wife, whose name was revealed in 2018.


Li Shufu's ties with Xi Jinping, China's president, have also been subject to public scrutiny. Reports suggest that Xi had shown support for Geely during his tenure in Zhejiang, where Geely was the only car manufacturer, and during subsequent visits to car expos.



The company's expansion overseas, notably the acquisition of Volvo Cars, took place during Xi's official visits abroad, further fueling speculation about high-level support for Geely despite the strict scrutiny of other Chinese conglomerates in overseas acquisitions.



The alleged connections between Li Shufu and Xi Jinping, especially regarding the latter's supportive visits to Geely-related events or facilities, have sparked discussions about the company's resilience in overseas acquisitions, contrasting with the fate of other Chinese conglomerates like


Anbang Group, HNA Group, and Wanda Group, which faced sell-offs and regulatory takeovers.





After the arrival of Geely 4.0, the comprehensive implementation of the CMA platform became widespread, with models like the Geely Star Yue and Star Rui utilizing this platform. Consequently, the platform advantage once held by Lynk & Co faded away.

Before this, Lynk & Co was positioned as a "budget Volvo," but with Geely making the Geely brand an even more budget-friendly version of Volvo, it led to internal competition between their own products.



Proton now become "Budget Volvo".....

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Profile              Eric Li         
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Chinese Automaker Geely Ups Its Stake in U.K.'s Aston Martin
The Chinese parent company to Volvo, Polestar, Lotus and others is now Aston Martin's third-largest shareholder.
May 19, 2023

Geely doubles its stake in Aston Martin to 17% at a cost of £234 million ($291 million), giving it a non-executive seat on the board and extending its financial influence over the British sports car maker.

The move makes the Chinese automaker the third-largest shareholder in Aston Martin, behind the Saudi Arabian Public Investment Fund, which commands an 18% shareholding, and the Yew Tree Consortium, currently Aston Martin's largest shareholder at 21%.

Geely’s stake places it ahead of Mercedes-Benz in the shareholding structure of Aston Martin.

Geely purchased 42 million shares from the Lawrence Stroll-controlled Yew Tree Consortium and was issued 28 million new shares in the deal announced May 18.
Stroll (pictured, below left), a Canadian billionaire businessman, is executive chairman of Aston Martin and owner of the Aston Martin F1 Team.

Geely says the increased shareholding will provide Aston Martin with an additional £95 million ($159 million) in funding.

As part of stipulations tied to the deal, Geely has agreed to acquire no more than 22% of Aston Martin before August 2024 unless it makes a formal offer that is endorsed by the Aston Martin board.

The Chinese automaker can also increase its stake in the British luxury marque if a third party, not acting in the interests of Geely, announces a formal offer for Aston Martin.

The Yew Tree Consortium has agreed not to buy or sell any ordinary shares in Aston Martin for the next 90 days and will not exceed a 25% stake in the company until August 2024.

Revenue at Aston Martin grew 26% to £1.35 billion ($1.67 billion) last year, largely because of price increases. Its core average per-unit selling price in 2022 rose 18% to £177,000 ($219,400).
The British company reported an adjusted operating loss of £118 million ($146.3 million) for the year ended Dec. 31, 2022.

Known throughout its storied history for sports cars. Aston Martin’s best selling model today is the DBX SUV.
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In February 24, 2018, Geely Group acquired a 9.69% stake in Daimler AG, becoming its largest shareholder with nearly $9 billion.
This rapid expansion under Li Shufu's leadership significantly increased his wealth, estimated at $110 billion in 2017 alongside his son Li Xingxing.
Geely's high-profile moves and Li Shufu's visible role in the media spotlight have led to speculations about his family, especially regarding his wife, whose name was revealed in 2018.
Li Shufu's ties with Xi Jinping, China's president, have also been subject to public scrutiny. Reports suggest that Xi had shown support for Geely during his tenure in Zhejiang, where Geely was the only car manufacturer, and during subsequent visits to car expos.
The company's expansion overseas, notably the acquisition of Volvo Cars, took place during Xi's official visits abroad, further fueling speculation about high-level support for Geely despite the strict scrutiny of other Chinese conglomerates in overseas acquisitions.
The alleged connections between Li Shufu and Xi Jinping, especially regarding the latter's supportive visits to Geely-related events or facilities, have sparked discussions about the company's resilience in overseas acquisitions, contrasting with the fate of other Chinese conglomerates like
Anbang Group, HNA Group, and Wanda Group, which faced sell-offs and regulatory takeovers.
After the arrival of Geely 4.0, the comprehensive implementation of the CMA platform became widespread, with models like the Geely Star Yue and Star Rui utilizing this platform. Consequently, the platform advantage once held by Lynk & Co faded away.

Before this, Lynk & Co was positioned as a "budget Volvo," but with Geely making the Geely brand an even more budget-friendly version of Volvo, it led to internal competition between their own products.
Proton now become "Budget[B] Volvo".....
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Wow, proton have the 1st geely oversea engine manufacturing plant


Tanjong Malim,Perak

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https://www.orientaldaily.com.my/news/car/2022/07/30/502233
Wow, proton have the 1st geely oversea engine manufacturing plant
Tanjong Malim,Perak
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The 1.5 Turbo engines for x50 and x70 is manufactured in Malaysia? Impressive
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The 1.5 Turbo engines for x50 and x70 is manufactured in Malaysia? Impressive
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Proton S70 sales high chance will be good.

The news said 3 cylinder normally have shaking issue.

But geely add on something to avoid.


True for x70 and x90?

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Nov 12 2023, 04:11 PM)
Proton S70 sales high chance will be good.

The news said 3 cylinder normally have shaking issue.

But geely add on something to avoid.
True for x70 and x90?
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Shame on those people. Always kecam proton 3 cylinder but its okay with perodua ativa and axia 3 cylinders

I own X50 and i tested Ativa extensively from my family member

Conclusion is for X50, the vibration inside is suppressed tremendously.
My car already 2 years old. Still no problem with mounting. Hardly feel any vibration inside either at steering wheel or pedal

Ativa meanwhile has poor insulation
From inside, can feel vibration on the pedal quite bad. Steering wheel will judder from time to time

So yeah. Proton 3 cylinder is better than perodua 3 cylinder
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QUOTE(JoeK @ Nov 12 2023, 04:31 PM)
Shame on those people. Always kecam proton 3 cylinder but its okay with perodua ativa and axia 3 cylinders

I own X50 and i tested Ativa extensively from my family member

Conclusion is for X50, the vibration inside is suppressed tremendously.
My car already 2 years old. Still no problem with mounting. Hardly feel any vibration inside either at steering wheel or pedal

Ativa meanwhile has poor insulation
From inside, can feel vibration on the pedal quite bad. Steering wheel will judder from time to time

So yeah. Proton 3 cylinder is better than perodua 3 cylinder
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Now we stuck with 1.5 3 cylinder. Malaysian lov it so much now all damn proton model from geely will use this damn engine that china cannot sell
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Nov 12 2023, 04:11 PM)
Proton S70 sales high chance will be good.

The news said 3 cylinder normally have shaking issue.

But geely add on something to avoid.
True for x70 and x90?
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Go Proton showroom test drive X50 yourself. Most X50 test drive unit should be at least 2-3 years old now. My experience is my CBU X70 mounting need change after 3-4 years only. When I test drive X50 can feel vibration in back seat.
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Nov 12 2023, 03:35 PM)
Good job else we stuck with 4 gear auto/CVT. We dream only having DCT, autonomous vehicles, tgdi
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We have Proton EV way before all this, Proton management didn't push for production. DCT? Already obsolete in consumer car when VW and Ford already moving away from DCT and Toyota Honda choose CVT. We were supposed to get Jatco CVT and TGDI engine built with McLaren engine supplier before Geely cancel the project, engine is already ready to go. Autonomous is no big deal at all la nowadays, even Perodua these days also got Level 2. Just ask supplier like Bosch to supply.
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QUOTE(adren1 @ Nov 12 2023, 04:39 PM)
hope s70 can overtake myvi
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just go buy Vios and peace of mind after that


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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Nov 12 2023, 04:11 PM)
Proton S70 sales high chance will be good.

The news said 3 cylinder normally have shaking issue.

But geely add on something to avoid.
True for x70 and x90?
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You wanna buy S70 is it ?

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Trust me, let the market decides on the first batch first.


However , if you wanna buy the alternative Vios or City, go ahead , proven tested already.
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QUOTE(jblittleboy @ Nov 12 2023, 05:33 PM)
You wanna buy S70 is it ?

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Trust me, let the market decides on the first batch first.
However , if you wanna buy the alternative Vios or City, go ahead , proven tested already.
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My unwavering belief stands in the attainability of Proton's monthly sales target of 2000 units of the S70.


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QUOTE(Gargamel_gibson @ Nov 12 2023, 05:20 PM)
We have Proton EV way before all this, Proton management didn't push for production. DCT? Already obsolete in consumer car when VW and Ford already moving away from DCT and Toyota Honda choose CVT. We were supposed to get Jatco CVT and TGDI engine built with McLaren engine supplier before Geely cancel the project, engine is already ready to go. Autonomous is no big deal at all la nowadays, even Perodua these days also got Level 2. Just ask supplier like Bosch to supply.
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DCT are expansive, hence many manufacturers just cut cost for production and choose CVT, especially the Japanese brand. VW and Ford take or use normal torque converter auto, they dont choose CVT. For Chinese car brand in general, the base spec use DCT wet clutch and more premium brand of them use 8-10 gear normal auto torque converter, which both are miles better than CVT.

For TGDI proton plan, all only on paper or planning process, long process before production, cut cost, etc. Doubt we get the best of all considering only sell for how many units locally, bring ROI? Else we retain back the Campro for another decade.

Autonomous is big thing, related to safety, plenty of testing, r&d. P2 take the Daihatsu model not asking Bosch as that.
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Nov 12 2023, 03:44 PM)
https://www.orientaldaily.com.my/news/car/2022/07/30/502233
Wow, proton have the 1st geely oversea engine manufacturing plant
Tanjong Malim,Perak
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Luckily end up as now. Else we only retaining the Campro engine until 2050.
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Proton S70 compare Volvo S60 ?

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QUOTE(JoeK @ Nov 12 2023, 04:31 PM)
Shame on those people. Always kecam proton 3 cylinder but its okay with perodua ativa and axia 3 cylinders

I own X50 and i tested Ativa extensively from my family member

Conclusion is for X50, the vibration inside is suppressed tremendously.
My car already 2 years old. Still no problem with mounting. Hardly feel any vibration inside either at steering wheel or pedal

Ativa meanwhile has poor insulation
From inside, can feel vibration on the pedal quite bad. Steering wheel will judder from time to time

So yeah. Proton 3 cylinder is better than perodua 3 cylinder
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QUOTE(Gargamel_gibson @ Nov 12 2023, 05:13 PM)
Go Proton showroom test drive X50 yourself. Most X50 test drive unit should be at least 2-3 years old now. My experience is my CBU X70 mounting need change after 3-4 years only. When I test drive X50 can feel vibration in back seat.
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Test drove x50
Vibrates in idle

But then again I'm used to 6 cyl
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DCT are expansive, hence many manufacturers just cut cost for production and choose CVT, especially the Japanese brand. VW and Ford take or use normal torque converter auto, they dont choose CVT. For Chinese car brand in general, the base spec use DCT wet clutch and more premium brand of them use 8-10 gear normal auto torque converter, which both are miles better than CVT.

For TGDI proton plan, all only on paper or planning process, long process before production, cut cost, etc. Doubt we get the best of all considering only sell for how many units locally, bring ROI? Else we retain back the Campro for another decade.

Autonomous is big thing, related to safety, plenty of testing, r&d. P2 take the Daihatsu model not asking Bosch as that.
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https://www.orientaldaily.com.my/news/car/2022/07/30/502233


Wow, proton have the 1st geely oversea engine manufacturing plant


Tanjong Malim,Perak


Already start produce engine right?


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QUOTE(lioncarlsberg @ Nov 12 2023, 06:57 PM)
Proton S70 compare Volvo S60 ?

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Actually is Volvo S80.


This Volvo S80 became a Geely Emgrand and later transformed into the Proton S70.



Proton now is budget Volvo

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QUOTE(rtk74 @ Nov 10 2023, 10:04 AM)
Kenot say.
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EVENT NAME Proton S70 Exclusive Preview
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EVENT ORGANIZER Proton and Geely
VENUE Raw Studio, 33, Jalan PJU 3/48, Sunway Damansara Technology, 47810 Petaling Jaya, Selangor
DATE & TIME 19 November 2023 (Sunday), 5 pm - 6 pm
TICKET PRICE Free Admission (RSVP before 15 November 2023)
DESCRIPTION It's time to explore interactive exhibits, enjoy exciting giveaways, and experience unbeatable flagship C-segment sedan S70 launch exclusives. Join us on an experiential journey through tomorrow's technology and be among the first to view our brand-new Proton S70 models at the launch event in Petaling Jaya.



Sunday also have preview


5pm- 6pm

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Actually is Volvo S80.
This Volvo S80 became a Geely Emgrand and later transformed into the Proton S70.
Proton now is budget Volvo
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S80? Biar betik
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We were officially recognised as an upgraded dealership on August 23rd 2018, inline with PROTON's vision moving forward.

Today, we are branded as one of the top 10 dealers in Malaysia, thanks to the dedicated team we have built and of course our valued customers that have supported us.
Our Regal Motors Proton 4S centre has also won the top Diamond Award for overall sales and service performance in April 2021.
It is Regal Motors Holdings Sdn Bhd.......
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Nov 12 2023, 07:29 PM)
https://www.orientaldaily.com.my/news/car/2022/07/30/502233
Wow, proton have the 1st geely oversea engine manufacturing plant
Tanjong Malim,Perak
Already start produce engine right?
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Already years. Since x50 launched
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QUOTE(rtk74 @ Nov 12 2023, 07:07 PM)
Test drove x50
Vibrates in idle

But then again I'm used to 6 cyl
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Bets best FC at 10km/l or average 8-9km/l. This for my old family E Class E240 W211 v6
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Nov 12 2023, 10:59 PM)
Bets best FC at 10km/l or average 8-9km/l. This for my old family E Class E240 W211 v6
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Feels like same as x50 FC
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QUOTE(rtk74 @ Nov 12 2023, 11:23 PM)
Feels like same as x50 FC
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2022 Geely Emgrand: Fuel Efficiency
The 2022 Geely Emgrand yielded good numbers when it comes to fuel efficiency but it’s not the best in its class. It recorded 9.7 km/l while driving through light to moderate traffic within the city while it posted 16 km/l on the open highway with an average cruising speed of 90 km/h.
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Seems okay. i think looks not bad also. Might test drive when come out. haha
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Why not wait the upcoming X50? Highly come with 4 cylinder turbo engine and even better fuel efficiency?
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Why not wait the upcoming X50? Highly come with 4 cylinder turbo engine and even better fuel efficiency?
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Nov 12 2023, 07:29 PM)
https://www.orientaldaily.com.my/news/car/2022/07/30/502233
Wow, proton have the 1st geely oversea engine manufacturing plant
Tanjong Malim,Perak
Already start produce engine right?
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Assembly not manufacture with 30% local parts.
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QUOTE(stevenryl86 @ Nov 13 2023, 02:01 PM)
Why not wait the upcoming X50? Highly come with 4 cylinder turbo engine and even better fuel efficiency?
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upcoming x50 will use 3cyl 1.5T

can consider as another minor change with "pro" version bodykit


S70 colors

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should price 70 to 80k

this car dont deserve 90k 100k price

Proton is a rebadge company

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Nov 12 2023, 07:29 PM)
Actually is Volvo S80.
This Volvo S80 became a Geely Emgrand and later transformed into the Proton S70.
Proton now is budget Volvo
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I don't mind if budget, problem need buy 2x...
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QUOTE(Raddus @ Nov 13 2023, 08:39 PM)
should price 70 to 80k

this car dont deserve 90k 100k price

Proton is a rebadge company
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Now is budget volvo

Not mitsubishi or honda or renault
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Lol why would you say 4 cylinder when the local plant is manufacturing 3cyl 1.5l only
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Now is budget volvo

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Going to be stuck in workshop no parts?
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Going to be stuck in workshop no parts?
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That time is covid-19


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QUOTE(rtk74 @ Nov 12 2023, 07:07 PM)
Test drove x50
Vibrates in idle

But then again I'm used to 6 cyl
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U shld test my car with harden hasport mountings. Will feel like single cylinder engine.
When i sit x50, fuuuuu niceee.
Hoping that s70 same feeling. Then can buy
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Nov 13 2023, 10:05 PM)
That time is covid-19
After 2022,no more issue
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From time to time I just search for X50 wear and tear parts like shock absorber, ball joints etc, it seems like not many are selling these, especially original parts. There's something not right with Geely-era Proton OE distro.
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U shld test my car with harden hasport mountings. Will feel like single cylinder engine.
When i sit x50, fuuuuu niceee.
Hoping that s70 same feeling. Then can buy
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cos used to straight 6....
mounting shot oso didn't notice
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From time to time I just search for X50 wear and tear parts like shock absorber, ball joints etc, it seems like not many are selling these, especially original parts. There's something not right with Geely-era Proton OE distro.
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Distro?
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Distro?
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From time to time I just search for X50 wear and tear parts like shock absorber, ball joints etc, it seems like not many are selling these, especially original parts. There's something not right with Geely-era Proton OE distro.
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Plenty of workshop nowadays sharing theirs at the group. Engine Mounting, brake pad, steering rack were shared by them not include normal EO etc. FB group
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QUOTE(rtk74 @ Nov 13 2023, 10:48 PM)
cos used to straight 6....
mounting shot oso didn't notice
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Plenty of workshop nowadays sharing theirs at the group. Engine Mounting, brake pad, steering rack were shared by them not include normal EO etc. FB group
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means proton spares part shop not enough?
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Plenty of workshop nowadays sharing theirs at the group. Engine Mounting, brake pad, steering rack were shared by them not include normal EO etc. FB group
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share in group then harga PM?
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means proton spares part shop not enough?
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The 1.5 Turbo engines for x50 and x70 is manufactured in Malaysia? Impressive
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in short Geely 3 cyclinder engine now are made in Proton
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QUOTE(JoeK @ Nov 12 2023, 04:31 PM)
Shame on those people. Always kecam proton 3 cylinder but its okay with perodua ativa and axia 3 cylinders

I own X50 and i tested Ativa extensively from my family member

Conclusion is for X50, the vibration inside is suppressed tremendously.
My car already 2 years old. Still no problem with mounting. Hardly feel any vibration inside either at steering wheel or pedal

Ativa meanwhile has poor insulation
From inside, can feel vibration on the pedal quite bad. Steering wheel will judder from time to time

So yeah. Proton 3 cylinder is better than perodua 3 cylinder
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Toyota GR yaris also 3 cylinder
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Toyota GR yaris also 3 cylinder
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Stable no shaking right?
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Stable no shaking right?
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Stable no shaking right?
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Stable no shaking right?
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Those org kayangan racing car change part mcm makan sayur je. Harga tak pa, janji sedap pakai.
Kesian golongan pipt beli 3 cylinder, bila tukar part , cry father , crying for mother and pinjam duit dgn member.
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ppl say cannot compare God brand Toyota with low class china engine,  Ppl pay RM 300k to by GR Yaris of cause no problem wan.
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Proton said 3 cylinder engine have some add on...

No shaking
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https://www.orientaldaily.com.my/news/car/2022/07/30/502233
Proton  said 3 cylinder engine have some add on...

No shaking
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every 3 cyclinder engine will have something to counter the things.
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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Nov 14 2023, 09:26 AM)
https://www.orientaldaily.com.my/news/car/2022/07/30/502233
Proton  said 3 cylinder engine have some add on...

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counterbalance shaft, normal typical item for 3-cylinder engine. Doesnt matter how much improvement made, it still lacks the refinement of 4-cylinder engine.
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post Nov 14 2023, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(Bananahead @ Oct 24 2023, 08:37 AM)
The design at the back looks so old school. Bring back Perdana!
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Is the official launching scheduled for November 25, 2023, a Saturday, following the preview on November 18, also a Saturday?

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post Nov 14 2023, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Nov 14 2023, 03:21 PM)
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Is the official launching scheduled for November 25, 2023, a Saturday, following the preview on November 18, also a Saturday?
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why mention City in the activity lol 😂
btw where the preview hosted

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post Nov 14 2023, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(brkli @ Nov 14 2023, 12:44 AM)
24 pages, official pricing 404..
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Have date

preview on November 18, Saturday

25 november tentative official launch

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QUOTE(bereev @ Nov 14 2023, 03:31 PM)
why mention City in the activity lol 😂
btw where the preview hosted
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Later maybe have kampung preview also.....


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post Nov 16 2023, 01:25 PM

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1hour long recording of salesman traning

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post Nov 16 2023, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(bereev @ Nov 16 2023, 01:25 PM)
1hour long recording of salesman traning

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Autofin associates sdn bhd

25, Jalan Dato Abdullah Tahir, Taman Abad, 80300 Johor Bahru, Johor


This should be internal right?

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QUOTE(DM3 @ Oct 24 2023, 07:33 AM)
Rear looks like Kia
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EVENT NAME Proton S70 Exclusive Preview
EVENT ORGANIZER Proton and Geely
VENUE Raw Studio, 33, Jalan PJU 3/48, Sunway Damansara Technology, 47810 Petaling Jaya, Selangor
DATE & TIME 18 November 2023(Saturday) , 5 pm - 6 pm
TICKET PRICE Free Admission
DRESS CODE Smart Casual (No sandals and short pants)
DESCRIPTION It's time to explore interactive exhibits, enjoy exciting giveaways, and experience unbeatable flagship C-segment sedan S70 launch exclusives. Join us on an experiential journey through tomorrow's technology and be among the first to view our brand-new Proton S70 models at the launch event in Petaling Jaya.

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post Nov 17 2023, 03:01 PM

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Tak nak ,buying Honda,discount almost 30k
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post Nov 17 2023, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(DM3 @ Nov 17 2023, 03:01 PM)
Tak nak ,buying Honda,discount almost 30k
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Honda apa discount 30k...macam interested
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post Nov 17 2023, 03:23 PM

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Honda apa discount 30k...macam interested
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Haha insider price je bro
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I only have 2 questions:

1. How many HP does this have?
2. Harga brapa?
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post Nov 17 2023, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(plouffle0789 @ Nov 17 2023, 12:47 PM)
| EVENT NAME                    | Proton S70 Exclusive Preview       |
EVENT ORGANIZER               Proton and Geely                
VENUE                         Petaling Jaya Showroom                   
DATE & TIME                   18 November 2023, 4 pm - 5 pm   
TICKET PRICE                  Free Admission                  
DESCRIPTION                   It's time to explore interactive exhibits, enjoy exciting giveaways, and experience unbeatable flagship C-segment sedan S70 launch exclusives. Join us on an experiential journey through tomorrow's technology and be among the first to view our brand-new Proton S70 models at the launch event in Petaling Jaya.
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pj so big which area?
is it Regal Auto?

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in other countries, it is a B+ segment... but over here, proton price it like a C segment.

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