I think s90 is possible will based on Preface sedan. Size close to vw passat. But in order to assembly this cma platform must do heavy retooling in tanjong malim plant so don't expect it to come soon in 2-3 years

go to sleep if cannot do launch properly

chinamen always sucks in such like to drag so long

lower than expected kek

From sources emgrand/s70 just piggyback on the name of BMA, actually still using FE platform aka modified from Toyota MC/old corolla platform


BMA is just the fancy name of FE platform that have been used since 2009 on geely emgrand ec7 (1st gen)

If know Chinese and do some research on x50 (BMA) aka binyue as well as others platform mates binrui etc, actually you can see that BMA platform is a bit sus one.

BMA is just blanket for geely 3.0 subcompact/compact models (2016-2020 era). BMA can also consist of older FE platform spiced up under BMA name like binrui sedan (that was originally the base for s70 before switching to emgrand 4th gen middle of development). Binrui sedan was also delayed in development cycle (suppose to launch around 2016 but ended up launched in 2018 just before binyue x50)

If you curious about FE platform. It was evolution of FC platform from 2006 (yuan Jin sedan , basically carbon copy of corolla Altis e120), then FE debuts in 2009 on original EC7 emgrand.
NL platform on boyue (1st gen) aka x70 was a development from geely gleagle gx7, which was RAV4 XA30 carbon copy . The sideways fuel tank layout was carried over to boyue aka x70
CV platform (jiaji, haoyue, x90) is yet another development from NL platform, basically stretched version of NL platform

Yeah
Can start from auto home forum

https://club.m.autohome.com.cn/bbs/thread/7...57065086-1.html

Very spicy info on x70 origins

S70 dimensions seems shrink from emgrand. Some black magic or maybe either party faked the spec?

Impossible to see the localized version shrinking from OG version. It's more common for other way around (lengthen the dimensions is easier to do then shrinking)

How proton measures the dimensions actually until got different from donor car? Idk, black magic?

In 2016 when geely partnership with proton (took over 49% stack) proton licensed 3 platforms from geely (NL, BMA and CV)

NL boyue is ended up as x70
BMA binyue is ended up as x50

However for larger 7 seater based on CV platform (x90) originally wanted to based on jiaji, but due to changing market conditions, proton swapped the base to haoyue middle of development


For the sedan that follows above 3 SUVs models, originally wanted to based on FE6/A06 binrui, but as I said also swapped the base to emgrand 4th gen due to various reasons. Binrui was found out not viable for LHD to RHD converting development as it was developed way before the geely-proton deal. Instead geely and proton opened yet another similar project to replace emgrand ec7 and preve of respective makes called SS11 that ended up as S70. Logically speaking, sharing same BMA platform with binyue/x50 is more efficient for SS11/S70 development and manufacturing. While SS11 for china was to be affordable entry sedan that directly replace both emgrand ec7 and yuanjing (corolla Altis clone), so different power train was being used for cost cutting measure (also no Adas and lower equipment level)

S70 for Malaysia was to eventually replace Preve that discontinued in 2020. So S70 undergone more localisation for ride and handling and made a bit more upmarket for equipment level. Yet to save costs it shares same power train with X50 (1.5 3g15t and dct) because localisation has been done for such power train.

Of course if already share the same power train, also more logical to share same BMA platform as X50 right ?

Why proton didn't say BMA so loudly? Well maybe their marketing decision is more to sell on value (price per performance) rather than selling technology that we already known since 2020 X50

https://www.automachi.com/2023/11/why-proto...t-geely-binrui/

Edit to add source and fix autocorrect typo

This post has been edited by MyProLife: Nov 30 2023, 07:45 PM

just swap out direct injection parts with mature pfi parts. yeah still rnd need to be done but simple tasks relatively

preface is close to passat size already, CMA platform, too bad proton not yet license CMA yet

for reason why put ss11 positioning above persona, maybe persona still have some sellable lifespan despite quite old, can keep selling as bezza alternative

In china sedans mostly starting with c segment entry. Vios or city no market at all in china, no replacement for those.

So emgrand in china also officially compared with entry c segment from rivals (JV and self brand) like Sylphy , VW Jetta etc.

Platform is still scale able . In china as long as longer than 2600 wheelbase already in C segment (A class in china or VW classification if you got confused)

Correct, just that china version for both x90 and s70 are kinda down-market models (value oriented)

Malaysia version got upgraded trims and equipment because cannot sell too cheap, localisation rate not as high as perodua

Far from that although still inherited design DNA from Peter horbury

Proton is not that near Volvo despite same parent. Lol

Although the platform specifically says B segment platform but can also use for c segment as the platform wheelbase can be adjusted between 2550-2700
Just like daihatsu/perodua dnga B, can be between 2620 (vios ac100) till 2750 on veloz/alza


And another one which used B segment platform before on c segment sedan was nissan Sylphy G11 (quite spacious at that time because wheelbase stretch to 2700, but width quite narrow compared to Altis, civic at that time)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Sylphy

Engine is derived from 2.0 4cylinder T5 but down to 3cylinder 1.5 on GEP3 version used by proton with GDI swapped with MPI so already stray away from Volvo original

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volvo_Engine_Architecture

In tongsan is called A segment (A级) actually for c segment classification because tongsan actually follows Volkswagen system (A0 = B seg, A = C seg, B = D seg, and so on)