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dwRK
post May 25 2024, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ May 25 2024, 11:12 AM)
This is what i saw on some other house in my neighbourhood. But the solar company i asked about this and they refuse to recommend this method. Dont know why, they just said it wont work..
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installing beams n trusses... not much profit in it for them...

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post May 25 2024, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ May 25 2024, 02:52 PM)
installing beams n trusses... not much profit in it for them...
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Now wanna find solar company that is willing to do this
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post May 25 2024, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(lowyard @ May 25 2024, 11:01 AM)
Bro I also TNB monthly 250 average without EV currently. But I plan to have EV soon. So may I know your 150 extra per month for EV is for how many kilometers of travel? What EV you use btw? Tq
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i think around 1800km... mg4
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post May 25 2024, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ May 25 2024, 02:53 PM)
Now wanna find solar company that is willing to do this
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without aircon your ceiling very hot? then imho... first thing to consider is reduce heat into your house... consider these...

roof ventilation... bubble foil insulation below zinc roof... orchid netting above roof... heat reflecting roof paint... insulated zinc roof as mentioned

next is leakage of cold air from inside the house... no point keep cooling but cold air keep escaping...

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post May 25 2024, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ May 25 2024, 03:17 PM)
without aircon your ceiling very hot? then imho... first thing to consider is reduce heat into your house... consider these...

roof ventilation... bubble foil insulation below zinc roof... orchid netting above roof... heat reflecting roof paint... insulated zinc roof as mentioned

next is leakage of cold air from inside the house... no point keep cooling but cold air keep escaping...
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Hmm ive never tried touching the ceiling during the day. Will try later see how. But eventually will still need solar as we phase out all the ice car at home for an EV in the coming future

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post May 25 2024, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ May 25 2024, 03:31 PM)
Hmm ive never tried touching the ceiling during the day. Will try later see how. But eventually will still need solar as we phase out all the ice car at home for an EV in the coming future
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sure... just sharing some low hanging fruits... simple things you can do immediately...

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post May 25 2024, 04:10 PM

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Perhaps you could engage a roofing contractor to build a beam and truss follows solar panel installer's requirement on top of you current metal roof.

Something like this:

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This post has been edited by gaman: May 25 2024, 04:10 PM
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post May 25 2024, 07:30 PM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ May 25 2024, 02:53 PM)
Now wanna find solar company that is willing to do this
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If I am not mistaken, there are two types of installation you the roof of your kind. Yours should be involving removing the original screw that screw the roof and screw the railings to the same hole.

There is another way which is using kliplok roof clamp. But ur roof doesn’t look like the kliplok roof. They usually clamp on the part with truss. But I don’t think this is suitable for your case.

Both involving the same thing, which allows the frame to be installed for solar.

For method one, as ur wood is abit old, when they screw back, it may crack. And it’s not worth taking the risk to install.

Usually for solar companies, they don’t change the structure of your roof. They only install on top of existing roof. As they are not expert in redesigning the roof. They have to bear the responsibility if they do that. And of course it incur additional charges.

Better leave the roof to the experts. , aka get a new roof first.


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post May 26 2024, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(etan26 @ May 25 2024, 11:01 AM)
Too low, mine is 11.7kw but generate much higher kwh. I think yours is net after daily consumption.

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Yeah I agree it's pretty low.

What type of inverter are you using?
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post May 26 2024, 08:51 AM

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QUOTE(WH4CockcooBird @ May 24 2024, 08:03 PM)
I got two friends living at close vicinity with solar panels installed.

11.5kw and 6.4kw.

Both string inverter

April TNB bill shows 890kwh and 396kwh respectively

And this figure appear to be peak of what their system is producing.

Is this considered ok?
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It’s hard to determine, and this is one weakness of solar panels on string that I notice.

As u cannot rely on Tnb reading, (it’s a nett reading) after usage.

You need to identify it from your inverter app to see the total production.

From The total production, you minus the Tnb export. Thst is your morning consumption. The tricky part is to determine if the morning consumption if it tallies with the your actual usage. There are ways but quite tedious.

Meanwhile, from micro inverter system, you can see individual panel production. From there you can compare and rule out any problem in the harvesting part. The calculation also become simpler.
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post May 26 2024, 09:14 AM

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QUOTE(WH4CockcooBird @ May 26 2024, 12:04 AM)
Yeah I agree it's pretty low.

What type of inverter are you using?
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post May 26 2024, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ May 24 2024, 07:46 PM)
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Unfortunately my Solar journey ends here . Click the spoiler to see pictures.

As per whatsapp from the solar company engineering team, my roof structure cannot support the weight of the solar panels

"Kayu ni boleh pecah kalau kita drill, bila da masuk L + railing + panel , possibility utk kayu tu mengepak dan pecah tinggi tu".

This means im stuck with a rm700+ tnb bill every month from now on
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From the condition of your roofing, more less about time for change out also la. Better change out before a heavy storm and gust hit.


I suggest la you engage a good awning roofing contractor, they will help you redo these roofing with galvanized C channel. At that point also you tell them you need reinforcement for solar panel saja la. Usually they will do double back to back C channel to support the weight of these panel
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post May 26 2024, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ May 25 2024, 08:50 AM)
Someone from kuching shared his experience that the handful of solar installers here in kuching have no business in doing residential solar project. Don't even know which inverter to buy.

Wait it out until west malaysia companies come to us. Fuck sarawak style and their slow ass adoption
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Pasang sendiri saja, do grid interactive UPS style no export ok liao. I’m been enjoying close to 3 years already.
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post May 26 2024, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(kaizoku30 @ May 26 2024, 09:23 AM)
Pasang sendiri saja, do grid interactive UPS style no export ok liao. I’m been enjoying close to 3 years already.
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Actually in Kuching or Sarawak, their electric charges is still very very cheap. Like 30 cent per kWh at the highest rate. So there is little point going Solar there unless you are really a big consumption.
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post May 26 2024, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(bee88 @ May 26 2024, 09:59 AM)
Actually in Kuching or Sarawak, their electric charges is still very very cheap. Like 30 cent per kWh at the highest rate. So there is little point going Solar there unless you are really a big consumption.
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Peninsular is 57sen/kwh for residential on the highest tier....nearly double... cool2.gif
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post May 26 2024, 10:03 AM

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post May 26 2024, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(bee88 @ May 26 2024, 09:59 AM)
Actually in Kuching or Sarawak, their electric charges is still very very cheap. Like 30 cent per kWh at the highest rate. So there is little point going Solar there unless you are really a big consumption.
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True also la, Sarawak has more than excess electricity if I recall correctly. But yea, if you say consistently above 600-1000, then it’s worth it la. My fren did check out one Gsparx and quoted 47k for 9.5kWp, 8kW inverter. I think it’s abit too expensive la. But Sarawak ba
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post May 26 2024, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ May 25 2024, 03:31 PM)
Hmm ive never tried touching the ceiling during the day. Will try later see how. But eventually will still need solar as we phase out all the ice car at home for an EV in the coming future
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id suggest get a good roofing guy do inspection first... dont straight out ask to replace

your red red zinc looks ok... as for wood, the pre war/70s build uses normaly uses good strong wood... nowadays the wood quality very bad... i once climb up into the attic for diy, my previous new house almost fell through the ceiling because wood broke when i stepped on it... yours maybe a few piece just need reinforcements...

if i were you, and i have to get a new roof... i would build it over the old roof and make it strong enough for solar... your solar econs now include new roof you have to decide worth or not


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post May 26 2024, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(kaizoku30 @ May 26 2024, 11:34 AM)
True also la, Sarawak has more than excess electricity if I recall correctly. But yea, if you say consistently above 600-1000, then it’s worth it la. My fren did check out one Gsparx and quoted 47k for 9.5kWp, 8kW inverter. I think it’s abit too expensive la. But Sarawak ba
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Actually in Sarawak with 31.5 cent per kWh, it’s okay to buy direct. And don’t need solar. Coz even if u use 2000 units, it’s just about rm600++. Here if use 2000 units, it’s about 1.3k.


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post May 26 2024, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(bee88 @ May 26 2024, 11:48 AM)
Actually in Sarawak with 31.5 cent per kWh, it’s okay  to buy direct. And don’t need solar. Coz even if u use 2000 units, it’s just about rm600++. Here if use 2000 units, it’s about 1.3k.
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Yea I guess Sarawak is really blessed then. Maybe people over there should adopt EV more la

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