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post Jan 13 2008, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(TheTraffic @ Jan 13 2008, 12:10 PM)
Do you guys know when HIS 3870 ICEQ is coming out?
I wanted to get HIS 3870 (without the ICEQ) but ppl are telling me that the one with ICEQ is much more better.
So should i wait or just buy the normal HIS 3870
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If you are not one to add in a 3rd party heatsink, better wait for the IceQ or IceQ Turbo version. HIS HD3870 is very hot since its heatsink is very small and the fan is extremely loud...like a hairdryer. And believe me, it is indeed a hairdryer.


QUOTE(hahaboy @ Jan 13 2008, 12:21 PM)
the gecube 3870 oc edition just overclock abit only. his iceq turbo will b better ?
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If you are not willing to overclock on your own, IceQ Turbo may be better but when will it arrive here is anyone's guess. Also, the pricing may not be reasonable. Should wait for R680 if you haven't decide on an upgrade.


Added on January 13, 2008, 12:34 pm
QUOTE(hydelai @ Jan 13 2008, 12:28 PM)
Anyone encountered the problem 3850 when playing game halfway suddenly hang  mad.gif
and then pop out 1 message something like driver stop responding etc
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Either you overclocked too much or the fan and heatsink are not efficient.

This post has been edited by clayclws: Jan 13 2008, 12:34 PM
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post Jan 13 2008, 12:42 PM

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The Sapphire HD3850 256MB and 512MB version has different cooling. Which cooling method is better? The passive cooling or the heatsink fan one?


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post Jan 13 2008, 12:46 PM

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Added on January 13, 2008, 12:48 pm"The 8800gt is by far a superior card and heck if you like aa/af eyecandy then forget the ati it falls on it's face. Personally I think the new ati cards are garbage because of the piss poor performance when aa/af are used which for me is a must I love nice graphics."

http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=248268


Added on January 13, 2008, 12:54 pm
QUOTE(clayclws @ Jan 13 2008, 12:33 PM)
If you are not one to add in a 3rd party heatsink, better wait for the IceQ or IceQ Turbo version. HIS HD3870 is very hot since its heatsink is very small and the fan is extremely loud...like a hairdryer. And believe me, it is indeed a hairdryer.
I not looking into changing it to a 3rd party heatsink and i dont mind the small heatsink/ loud fan.
Just as long as it doesnt has any heat prob/stability then it is okay for me...


This post has been edited by TheTraffic: Jan 13 2008, 12:56 PM
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post Jan 13 2008, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(Kameshikarin @ Jan 13 2008, 12:42 PM)
The Sapphire HD3850 256MB and 512MB version has different cooling. Which cooling method is better? The passive cooling or the heatsink fan  one?
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QUOTE(TheTraffic @ Jan 13 2008, 12:46 PM)
I got these msges from guru3d.com forum


Added on January 13, 2008, 12:48 pm"The 8800gt is by far a superior card and heck if you like aa/af eyecandy then forget the ati it falls on it's face. Personally I think the new ati cards are garbage because of the piss poor performance when aa/af are used which for me is a must I love nice graphics."

http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=248268


Added on January 13, 2008, 12:54 pm

I not looking into changing it to a 3rd party heatsink and i dont mind the small heatsink/ loud fan.
Just as long as it doesnt has any heat prob/stability then it is okay for me...
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Thats very bias comment, used to test 8800gt and bro test and its crap.
He himself tested asus, zotac, galaxy 8800gt and he still prefer 2900xt and 3870.

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post Jan 13 2008, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(skylinegtr34rule4life @ Jan 12 2008, 10:33 PM)
download the patch from 3dmark site then only wont hang laugh.gif

my stock idle temp is 48 and load is 66 at 50% fan speed and so i guess yours would be fine then laugh.gif as 4 the fan and heat problem is common with 3870 users doh.gif  doh.gif
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hi, may i know how to set the fan to 50%? i am getting more than 80oC on GPU load (Sapphire 3870)

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post Jan 13 2008, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(Lucas @ Jan 13 2008, 04:48 PM)
hi, may i know how to set the fan to 50%? i am getting more than 80oC on GPU load (Sapphire 3870)
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use ATI tool or riva tunner .
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QUOTE(Lucas @ Jan 13 2008, 04:48 PM)
hi, may i know how to set the fan to 50%? i am getting more than 80oC on GPU load (Sapphire 3870)
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flash new BIOS icon_idea.gif
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post Jan 13 2008, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Jan 13 2008, 04:55 PM)
flash new BIOS icon_idea.gif
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wa flash bios is not recommend to newbie .

anyhing happend u gonna kill the GC .

bang Sniper expert already rclxms.gif he flash GC bios everday biggrin.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Jan 13 2008, 04:55 PM)
flash new BIOS icon_idea.gif
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when are you changing to new gpu. ur card 3 more 3 days old.
exceed your usage lifetime edi. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post Jan 13 2008, 05:31 PM

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I'm not planning to change the stock cooler. so will i face the heat-prob too?
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QUOTE(nagflar @ Jan 13 2008, 04:52 PM)
use ATI tool or riva tunner .
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thanks, am using ATI tool now, using dynamic fan control

Above 0c = 31%
Above 70c = 39%
Above 75c = 48%
Above 80c = 57%
Above 85c = 68%
Above 90c = 79%
Above 95c = 88%
Above 100c = 100%

any comments and modifications? THanks in advance. I am using Sapphire HD3870, with stock fan.
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QUOTE(nagflar @ Jan 13 2008, 04:52 PM)
use ATI tool or riva tunner .
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or use ASUS SMARTDOCTOR which is provided by asus 3870 pckg thumbup.gif

QUOTE(TheTraffic @ Jan 13 2008, 05:31 PM)
I'm not planning to change the stock cooler. so will i face the heat-prob too?
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yes you will laugh.gif
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post Jan 13 2008, 05:56 PM

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i thought stock BIOS will fix the fan @35% no matter we force it via software @50% for example? yes? no?

erm...
by using ATi Tools, i'm fixing her @50% speed... (manually la...), besides i'm on naked casing... doh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Jan 13 2008, 05:56 PM)
i thought stock BIOS will fix the fan @35% no matter we force it via software @50% for example? yes? no?

erm...
by using ATi Tools, i'm fixing her @50% speed... (manually la...), besides i'm on naked casing... doh.gif laugh.gif
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no, you can always use the rivatuner to fix the fan speed.

check the link here, fan speed problem fixed bios.

http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33912408
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post Jan 13 2008, 06:49 PM

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But how come the reviews state that the stock cooler is sufficient?
If it is gonna cause heat prob wouldnt ATI do something on it b4 release?
That means all the owners of 3870 will have to change to 3rd party cooler? NO right?

So i guess there will be alot of heat just that we have to adjust the fan speed right?
So conclusion? no heat-PROB?
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QUOTE(TheTraffic @ Jan 13 2008, 06:49 PM)
But how come the reviews state that the stock cooler is sufficient?
If it is gonna cause heat prob wouldnt ATI do something on it b4 release?
That means all the owners of 3870 will have to change to 3rd party cooler? NO right?

So i guess there will be alot of heat just that we have to adjust the fan speed right?
So conclusion? no heat-PROB?
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who told you it's insufficient?
3870 will not die even the load temperature reach 95C.
so basically if you don't oc, your card most likely will be fine with default bios.
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post Jan 13 2008, 07:09 PM

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QUOTE(sukhoi37 @ Jan 13 2008, 06:51 PM)
QUOTE(TheTraffic @ Jan 13 2008, 06:49 PM)

But how come the reviews state that the stock cooler is sufficient?
If it is gonna cause heat prob wouldnt ATI do something on it b4 release?
That means all the owners of 3870 will have to change to 3rd party cooler? NO right?

So i guess there will be alot of heat just that we have to adjust the fan speed right?
So conclusion? no heat-PROB?
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who told you it's insufficient?
3870 will not die even the load temperature reach 95C.
so basically if you don't oc, your card most likely will be fine with default bios.
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He did... tongue.gif
QUOTE(skylinegtr34rule4life @ Jan 13 2008, 05:47 PM)
yes you will laugh.gif
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Anyway TheTraffic, if you don't overclock, the stock heatsink and fan is fine. Even if you overclock, you can set the fan speed to be very high (and very noisy) and you'll still be fine. People in here are mostly enthusiasts that like to overclock and most of us like to make sure our graphic card stays a lot cooler and quiter than normal...so that's why we change the heatsink. Also, changing heatsink on a GPU is the same as CPU...you may be able to extend the limit of overclocking.

And again, wait for R680...

This post has been edited by clayclws: Jan 13 2008, 07:09 PM
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post Jan 13 2008, 07:29 PM

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QUOTE(clayclws @ Jan 13 2008, 07:09 PM)
And again, wait for R680...
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its not actually called R680 as per say...

its actually 2 RV670 in a single board connected by a plex pcie bridge

i would say an R680(2x rv670) will perform comparably to pair of 3870 crossfired
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QUOTE(jinaun @ Jan 13 2008, 07:29 PM)
its not actually called R680 as per say...

its actually 2 RV670 in a single board connected by a plex pcie bridge

i would say an R680(2x rv670) will perform comparably to pair of 3870 crossfired
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My hope...is that it actually work as a SINGLE card and NOT CF...so that all motherboard without CF support can actually use it. If it is so, I would say, it is indeed R680 biggrin.gif

Oh, btw, it is officially spotted at CES2008. Refer to: http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=224402

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does anyone tried cat 8.1 BETA ? i have use it but in ATi cp showing i was using cat 7.12.. is it cat 7.12 modded driver ? laugh.gif

but 3dmark06 score increase a bit.

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