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lucifah
post Nov 21 2011, 11:20 AM

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guys,

dunno if this is the correct place to ask - but just how easy is it to ride the er6-n?

and when will the 2012 Er6-n will be in our shores? expected pricing?
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post Nov 21 2011, 11:54 AM

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for street road. very easy. for highway, if push to the limit hard to control
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post Nov 21 2011, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(leinnz @ Nov 21 2011, 11:54 AM)
for street road. very easy. for highway, if push to the limit hard to control
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how about from someone who has been riding a scooter all these while?

i know i have to learn manual clutch, but just how hard can it be? i expect a few falls now and then... learning curve
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post Nov 21 2011, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Nov 21 2011, 12:35 PM)
how about from someone who has been riding a scooter all these while?

i know i have to learn manual clutch, but just how hard can it be? i expect a few falls now and then... learning curve
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hrm, if you're afraid of the falling bit (jatuh bodoh, not jatuh accident) then you might want to get something cheaper (in between)


its very easy to ride bro, no worries.
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post Nov 22 2011, 12:21 AM

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No matter how big or small u are.. the technique to ride a bike properly is the key to successfully handlng your bike..

I would say... try something like FZ150 or Ninja 150 to get the hang of the clutching system.. and then decide if easy riding or more sportier style that u prefer.. and look at your budget...
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post Nov 22 2011, 08:13 AM

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QUOTE(junbecks @ Nov 21 2011, 03:11 PM)
hrm, if you're afraid of the falling bit (jatuh bodoh, not jatuh accident) then you might want to get something cheaper (in between)
its very easy to ride bro, no worries.
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QUOTE(T600 @ Nov 21 2011, 08:15 PM)
Kawasaki ER6 is the most newbie friendly 650cc big motorcycle out there, it handles good, and have a lot of power on the highway, and the size is not too big and can easily maneuver through traffic.

If you never been on the bike with clutch before, I suggest you borrow a motorcycle such as Yamaha FZ150 from your friend (if can), learn how the clutch work, try to handle the bike at slow speed and feathering the clutch, once you get use to it, you are ready to go. Or better go to driving school and take B-Full lol.

Since you are new to big motorcycle, chances of dropping the bike at low speeds are higher than at high speed.

My first motorcycle was Honda EX5 (stolen) lol, and after 2 times (2 hour) driving lesson on the Jaguh 175 at driving school, the next day I booked for a new ER6N as my second bike, that time is the first time I sat on the Kawasaki ER6N, I rode home without any problem.

The size and weight of the bike is not an issue for me as I am 50kg (mosquito on a big bike), after a surgery where I lost another 5kg, I still be able to handle the bike and ride it like I stole it lol.

Like other said, it is very easy, go for it, and ER6 engine never kacau.
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QUOTE(whatsupbro @ Nov 22 2011, 12:21 AM)
No matter how big or small u are.. the technique to ride a bike properly is the key to successfully handlng your bike..

I would say... try something like FZ150 or Ninja 150 to get the hang of the clutching system.. and then decide if easy riding or more sportier style that u prefer.. and look at your budget...
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thanks for the assuring feedback - i do expect lots of falls, hence i'm trying to find a 2nd hand er6n (though i am secretly waiting for the 2012 er6-n)

i was very worried about the size as i'm a small sized guy

as for the clutch, i rode a kawa z250 for a week or two previously. i can get the hang of it, but just like a newbie driver, i will get stuck in front of traffic lights... cool2.gif always forgot to release the clutch slowly or did not engage the correct 1st gear

i guess my 1st step is to get a b-full license 1st...
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post Nov 27 2011, 12:29 AM

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QUOTE(T600 @ Nov 22 2011, 10:50 AM)
atleast you are not smaller than me lol, I weigh in last night, only 47kg, and I 175cm tall, I only lowslide once! which I hit the gravel in a motorcycle lane, as for dropping the bike because of weight nope. 1 thing for sure, during cornering don't hit the brake, using engine braking instead, will save you from lowslide.

I played with my ER6N for 1 year, put 20,000KM on it, the bike is so much fun! very easy to corner (knee down), and stable as hell, now currently riding 1000cc supersport, once you got your 650cc let's go out lol, you will make a good laugh at me when you see a skinny guy like me on a 1000cc  rclxub.gif .

I miss my ER6. sad.gif
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Eventough I'm tall, I'm very skinny.. Last time rode an old Honda GoldWing 1100... The big was quite big & I look like a dwarf riding it... But then once moved got no problem, even hit 160 on some corner....
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post Nov 27 2011, 09:42 PM

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172cm with 47kg can handle R1?
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post Nov 27 2011, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(T600 @ Nov 22 2011, 10:50 AM)
atleast you are not smaller than me lol, I weigh in last night, only 47kg, and I 175cm tall, I only lowslide once! which I hit the gravel in a motorcycle lane, as for dropping the bike because of weight nope. 1 thing for sure, during cornering don't hit the brake, using engine braking instead, will save you from lowslide.

I played with my ER6N for 1 year, put 20,000KM on it, the bike is so much fun! very easy to corner (knee down), and stable as hell, now currently riding 1000cc supersport, once you got your 650cc let's go out lol, you will make a good laugh at me when you see a skinny guy like me on a 1000cc  rclxub.gif .

I miss my ER6. sad.gif
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i'm only 165cm tall... weight standard 60kg. can ride er6n with legs touching ground or not?

scare later on malu when come to stand still at traffic light... blush.gif
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post Nov 28 2011, 02:25 AM

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Guys, can help to clarify this? Is it a real Ducati Diavel?? To good to be true, its for display.
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post Nov 28 2011, 02:26 PM

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lucifah, no need to think so negative about falling - just get good protective gear - jackets, gloves then you will worry less...
i was recommended ninja 150 by sifus to start on superbike journey - having issues with gear clutch as you said (and choke) but i'm taking it one step at a time, riding more on weekend mornings...
below is my story (and bike pic): http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2076177/+80 Need Advice from Bike Gurus: my 1st Bike.
Regarding R1, what i see in western forum is they say R1 and R6 is more for racing - a bit diffcult bike to control if u r newbie...
otherwise the bmw superbike seem to be winning the objective best of superbike wars now - but then again panigale just released. the old favorite honda seems to have lost the 'power of dreams' in superbikes in recent years...
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lucifah, so long as your toes can touch the ground - not an issue. Height is merely a mental hurdle to overcome for newbies, which I have been through it myself. It is all about riding confidence. I am 168cm in height and could ride a 990SMR with just tip toe-ing.

I bought a 07 Z750 as my first bike with little to none riding experience. Jatuh bodoh in total of 4 times and sworn to myself never to make the same mistake twice. Ride more often and put myself in many different scenarios to get familiar with the hazards. Upgraded to a litre super naked 4 months after riding the Z750. Clocked about 7.1kms since I got the bike late August - countless cross country & in country trips. One to remember, rode directly from KL to Phuket, 14 1/2 hours and 1010kms in a day. No regrets for taking up this hobby.

Principally, I feel that it does not matter if you own a 125, 250, 650, 1000 or 1700cc bike. If you have assess the risk and maintain strict discipline of handling the bike at your own means & limit, do not bother what others say. It is your money, your bike and ride it however you want. Nevertheless, with great power comes great responsibility.
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QUOTE(wordtalks @ Nov 28 2011, 02:25 AM)
Guys, can help to clarify this? Is it a real Ducati Diavel?? To good to be true, its for display.
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why is it too good to be true?

you go upstairs at the harley davidson store, they also have a HD Sportster on display.


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well said mate

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post Nov 29 2011, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(phobian @ Nov 29 2011, 02:15 AM)
lucifah, so long as your toes can touch the ground - not an issue. Height is merely a mental hurdle to overcome for newbies, which I have been through it myself. It is all about riding confidence. I am 168cm in height and could ride a 990SMR with just tip toe-ing.

I bought a 07 Z750 as my first bike with little to none riding experience. Jatuh bodoh in total of 4 times and sworn to myself never to make the same mistake twice. Ride more often and put myself in many different scenarios to get familiar with the hazards. Upgraded to a litre super naked 4 months after riding the Z750. Clocked about 7.1kms since I got the bike late August - countless cross country & in country trips. One to remember, rode directly from KL to Phuket, 14 1/2 hours and 1010kms in a day. No regrets for taking up this hobby.

Principally, I feel that it does not matter if you own a 125, 250, 650, 1000 or 1700cc bike. If you have assess the risk and maintain strict discipline of handling the bike at your own means & limit, do not bother what others say. It is your money, your bike and ride it however you want. Nevertheless, with great power comes great responsibility.
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the main reason i am very concerned about height is i'm looking for a streetfighter type of bike to ride in city / town traffic

i'm currently using a small scooter (ego lc 125)


i will probably never ride it out of town, so high speed riding is not a main criteria...


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post Nov 29 2011, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(T600 @ Nov 29 2011, 01:23 PM)
Phobian is right...

My mom told me that I can't handle big bike, she worry as hell when I said I bought a 650cc and want to ride it back home all the way from KL to Johor, when I got back home and I pushing the bike around, riding it around the neighbourhood and show how easy it is to operate the thing... Now she keep quite. And later I have another suprise to her, a 1000cc somemore haha doh.gif even bigger, no problem whatsoever. We both cool now, wish she let me do what I like to do.

As a matter of fact, if you have the heart there is nothing can stop you, you need to have some guts to ride a big motorcycle, everybody around me told me to stay away from big motorcycle, it is not suitable for a skinny guy like me, I ignore them all and work my way up, finally I got my dream bike, and it is my money, who can stop me  smile.gif

Go to a shop, like Welly Batu Caves, take a sit on the bike that you like, see whether it fits you, height is not a big problem, see a lot of people tip toeing at a stop, but cons is maybe you can't carry a passenger  laugh.gif
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hmm for 250cc's that shouldnt be a problem right? as i see most 250cc's got seat at back too, just above the rear wheels sweat.gif
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Nov 29 2011, 12:12 PM)
the main reason i am very concerned about height is i'm looking for a streetfighter type of bike to ride in city / town traffic

i'm currently using a small scooter (ego lc 125)
i will probably never ride it out of town, so high speed riding is not a main criteria...
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Do you have friends riding scramblers? If yes, you may want to learn using their bikes - that would inch your fear off heights. I had basic riding training on ER6N, and I made it a point that riding a "big" bike is not about how fast you can squeeze off the throttle - but how well you can maneuver on low speed. I practised a lot on lock to lock turns, 3 point turns - which requires you to either peddle the bike backward or push the bike and elevations - uphill or downhill.

I forgot to add another important point. My dad once told me, you do not own a bike if you cannot pick it up yourself!

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QUOTE(T600 @ Nov 29 2011, 02:25 PM)
yea but if you are on 600/650cc sport, seat is high, if you are too short and tip toe when stop, it is dangerous if you carry a passenger, if their butt itchy and move left right, you both might went to the ground lol, I saw that once, pretty funny  biggrin.gif.
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haha thanks for the info, i only plan to go as far as 250cc and b2. never rode a bike before, however have plans to do so in the future after i get my new car
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post Nov 29 2011, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(phobian @ Nov 29 2011, 03:22 PM)
Do you have friends riding scramblers? If yes, you may want to learn using their bikes - that would inch your fear off heights. I had basic riding training on ER6N, and I made it a point that riding a "big" bike is not about how fast you can squeeze off the throttle - but how well you can maneuver on low speed. I practised a lot on lock to lock turns, 3 point turns - which requires you to either peddle the bike backward or push the bike and elevations - uphill or downhill.

I forgot to add another important point. My dad once told me, you do not own a bike if you cannot pick it up yourself!
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good point there - i have to consider it too...

er6-n should be about 200kg, right? time to start weight training


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I also before this never rode a bike with clutch... But, set my mind on wanting to start riding a bike, then bought a Ninja 250r without even knowing how to operate the gear n clutch... Even on delivery date, need to set with the shop owner to deliver my bike on a flatbed truck bcuz dunno how to ride blush.gif ..Google how the gearing system, n then learn myself on how to ride... Always during midnight i go out to try out the bike, but after 2 night doing that, the next day already redline it on every streetlight...

I guess 250r will never go wrong with new rider who dont even have experience riding before cuz never will have problem of too much throttle on this bike, except when u drop the clutch from high rpm, only then u can wheelie... N to do that u still need to drop the clutch at 8-9krpm...

But still, this bike on the hands of those knee down kakis, can be very effective... A friend of mine, John Corner (even the nickname speaks i think...), going down hill at genting can cucuk a GSX1000, and also on several corners went pass that guy untill that guy do the "handphone ringing and i need to stop because need to answer my phone" thinggy...

But sure, once Karak, ninja 250r will be left for dead... Hehehe... rclxms.gif

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