if new then okay la. dont get second hand. if not u can smoke yr whole house. \


@cattledecap
wow, got map sumore. haha. weekend la. if i work on weekend.

Sorry of topic again...How about aprillia rs125?Maintance cost?Spare part easy to get?(johor)Top speed i dont really care couse i more to crusing speed.I dont like hearing my bike gasping for air when im going fast.But i still like speeding now and then.

TS im new to clutch bike also.When stoping i make sure i trottle a little and slowly release clutch.Just play with lower gear couse it harder for the bike to die on lower gear.

2nd hand engine cannot be rebuild back to new condition?

haizz...rain, busy 2 weeks did not ride...
this morning went out with determination - must do it!
bike don't want to start
choke on, no throttle...bur not starting

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Added on November 26, 2011, 7:39 amgrabbed another bg sized guy to kick it with max choke.
had a nice ride this morning...
when i had a morning ride, and i go near speedbreaker, i notice the bike dies if i'm in 3-4th gear.
since there are a few bumpers in short distances, do i drop down gear everytime, or could i just hold clutch and move thru on 3rd/4th gear - i guess it's trial and error.

This post has been edited by cattledecap: Nov 26 2011, 07:39 AM

For sure can, but need to factor in the type of bike which will project the cost...
What bike ur targetting ?

zxr250 what is the cost of a complete rebuild??

Im also riding a Kawa 150 right now(take care of it while my fren is away).When u slow down make sure u down shift.The slower you are the lower gear u use.If u go throught a bum slowly use 2nd if a little fast 3rd should still be ok.Im also learning how to use clutch bike now.My previous bike was all non clutch still die's sometimes expesially in traffic.Try it's top speed today doing head on the tank move sure make a lot off diffrent on your speed.Without head on the tank it was 140km while head on the tank up tp 160km .Still got some balance on the throttle just i don't dare couse it dark and i can't see very far aways couse the highways have no lamp post .The bike pickup sure is amazing.Duel with a VIOS and HONDA(not sure what type)at traffic light they eat my 2T smoke .But don't try this a home . They even have a hard time catching up.

This post has been edited by tongaz86: Nov 27 2011, 02:00 AM

wonder full tank petrol costs how much - i'm going to fill petrol later - in cars i know it won't spill out but bikes i'm not sure if it will overflow...

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Added on November 28, 2011, 2:14 pmok - night time, planned to for 1st petrol fill, but rain.
morning - rode in the middle of road- thankfully not much traffic - the mirrors - can't see much, i have to adjust them mirrors better.
the nearest petrol station involves me going thru a road tunnel where there is no much room for bikes to ride on the side, then downhill into a roundabout, and finally back. the bloody petrol station is right opposite my house but have to make big detour to get there
fuel tank showed half fuel left - paid rm 5, i was watching the tank - by rm 4.10, full already - so i dunno about rm 20 for fulltank the mech told me earlier...
all this while my choke always turned full - if i reduce, bike stops!
after filling petrol tried 3 times before starting finally -
I notice that at roundabouts traffic light, where i need to stop, probably better just stop at 2nd gear and then move. If itry to get down to 1st gear, i gt confused and bike stalls at traffic. also at roundabout bike was jumping like horse when i tried to figure out the gears....luckily holiday and morning
if i want to downshift/going downhill, i have to make sure my speed really slow down first, otherwise the bike jerks and makes 'whiny' sound...
in conclusion:
***need to learn art of changing gears appropriately at inclines, traffic lights - & have to adjust mirrors properly!***

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Added on December 9, 2011, 6:27 pmtoday did about 20x start stops (did not off engine) with 1st gear - to master clutch. made good improvement. BUT...
when i rode back home, at 2nd gear, suddenly engine mati.
Tried starting 6-7 times with choke max but no response.
Gear in neutral, tried to go 1st gear but gear 'tak masuk'...
finally after many kicks, started but with big hollow sound. tried to push into 1st, then 2nd gear...but die again. Pushed back home - that time i thought if superbike how will i push that weight...
anyway called mechanic - he starts it after few kicks, takes a listen - says spark plug dead as choke kept max.
but the fella will not even idle for a while if choke not max!
anyway he slowly rode it back to the shop - i'll visit the bike in the shop tomorrow.
upset as i was making a fair amount of progress today and this happens

This post has been edited by cattledecap: Dec 9 2011, 06:27 PM

aduih the other thread too pro ady lol: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=47413917


This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Dec 13 2011, 03:22 AM

@cattledecap the choke is only for starting up, not for continous riding... if the bike will not idle after warming up (~60 seconds) ... something's wrong. have a competent mechanic check it out.

regarding choke, maybe i go to another shop and see...
i need to develop good riding confidence
i realize that unlike cars, the mb rear mirrors difficult to use, if the road inclines/declines/turning time - impossible to see behind. the lack of mirror visibility that i've taken for granted in cars is worrying, i need to learn looking behind.
Otherwise i'm getting to know the motor's character better. If i drop down from high gear to fast, the motor stops-i've learnt to hold clutch and ram the throttle to keep engine firing.
what happens if i leave choke max all the time? - so far only spark plug problem...

Just read this from page 1 and man this thread is unbelievable, if this is Kopitiam, I would think you're trolling everybody.

Regarding the bike's side mirror you can try changing to bigger side mirror for more viewing angle, try asking around at accessories shops. But usually aftermarket mirror such as Koso for example is smaller than the factory mirror on your zx150.

All vehicle have blind spot even cars, I would advise you not to get use to looking behind while riding your bike, you can do this occasionally only.
The reason is when you're looking behind you can't see anything from the front or the side which your head is not turning to.

Imagine this you are in between traffic. You need to make a right turn, so you turn on your signal and turn, right? Wrong, make it a habit to check your rear before turning because while you are slowing down, sometimes faster bikes/cars will overtake you. So now you need to check your rear, if you turn your head to look behind and at the same moment the car in front of you breaks, you won't notice it and bang shit happens.
My advice is learn to use the side mirror and take a quick glance to the side to check your blind spot when changing lanes or making a turn.

When you open your choke, the bike overflows your chamber with fuel to make it start easier. For optimum burning the bike needs fuel+air. If you open the choke for too long the burning might get too hot, hence the spoilt spark plug, worst case scenario is you might make a hole in your piston.

Lastly remember this the margin of error on a bike is smaller than driving a car, ride safe.

P/S : Why won't your bro teach you how to ride you bike ?

This post has been edited by aman83: Dec 18 2011, 10:00 AM

well thank god the sifus did not dismiss this as troll whatever - i don't have biker friends...
regarding my bro - if he can even sit on a stationary bike without falling i'd be surprised..he is NATO (no action talk only)
whatever friends - all have kapchai experience only - they see the superkips - and they gulp.
But kips is quite comfortable to sit on for me - have to sort out the mirror - maybe i should invent an auto tilt mirror that adjusts when ur surrounding terrain changes...
Regarding choke - once i'm better with riding i'll go to the big 3 storey shop near the hulu langat driving school...hopefully they sort it out.
If still cannot settle i'll go to welly batu caves.

*****************HELMETS******************
I'm thinking of starting a helmet thread - my 1st one got no visor. I added one and it feels to dark.
Is it ok to get visor with no tint - i think unlike cars no issue of interior overheating rite?
i find most motorcyclist use flip visor, no fullface - is there any drawback with fullface helmet.
since i've started riding on streets - need to get a proper helmet - maybe i'll get SOL fullface with no tint...
My helmet story u all know - bought 'arai' <rm100 with no visor - no forethought

This post has been edited by cattledecap: Dec 18 2011, 10:54 AM

The no problem with getting a visor with no tint or clear visor. The only drawback that I can think of is when you're riding opposite of the sun and the glare lows your visibility, but this can easily be solved by wearing sunglasses.
Where else riding with a dark visor at night may be dangerous as it lows your visibility, some dark visor even states that it is not designed for night riding.

BTW your helmet can be installed with a flip up visor.

If you're thinking of getting a fullface helmet than get it, it's better than an open face helmet. You can also try a flip up helmet (not to be mistaken with a flip up visor).

Try asking for a fullface with a double visor, it's a fullface with clear visor but also come with a small dark visor inside the helmet which can be lowered or hidden with a button, see if it's your taste.

Regarding the choke are you saying that the bike won't idle with the choke turned off?

yawn...
christmas eve field report...
went out to ride about 2.30 am just now
Having much better control of clutch now-playing with it is like playing musical instrument.
Issues this mornin:
1. The choke issue. Started as usual with max choke. Somewhere during ride i stopped the bike, the slightly burnt smell again - i wuz worried the spark plug dyin again due to always using max choke. So i rode home straight away - buuut....... once i arrive home, i tried to idle for a while, then turned choke off - VICTORY -the motor idle without stopping, and the motor sound is better - like more refined compared to the rough previous sound. I noticed that the odometer showed 1049km - so maybe the engine and choke just run in - i hope so anyway.

2. Although choke issue resolving, my Mirrors are still a worry despite me adjusting their position - when i rode in main rode just now - could not see car right behind me...I'm so used to my car's biiig side mirrors, also the presence of rearview mirror in carr reallly helps. Like bro aman83 suggested, i need to get big aftermarket mirrors. Just now when i was turning luckily i signalled, and glanced at side mirror like a do with my car, managed to notice a motorcyclist with no light just behind me - any slower and he might have hit me - i was dressed up like christmas tree and this guy is riding in stealth mode.

3. Bike license - the instructors have made up their mind that i have to take <250cc license and ride at least few months on roads before considering superbike license. I think i'll take their advice although i paid more money for superbike license...

Now for some graveyard story - i passed an s shaped road in the graveyard area just now - as i was taking the turn, a black dog woke up from sleep in the middle of the road. I avoided it, but man i was more scared of the bike stalling with the dog attacking me than meeting any ghost.
End of today's report - ps merry xmas everyone!

My first bike was a 54HP Yamaha XJ600 Seca II. It was more than enough to scare the shit out of me.

So be patient. The crappy kapcai you're riding right now may not be all you ever dreamed of, but the easily manageable power will help you learn how to ride without killing you!

I'm also planning on getting a SBK license, since I want that new Yamaha XJ6. 600cc 4 cylinder sound, none of the power. Still around 54HP I think.

If u'r interested in 4 cylinder 250's (Most are ZX-2), I strongly advice u against them....
Maintenance is quite a killer & the engine can't withstand high revving eventough it can rev up to 18.5 k rpm....
Parts are also very expensive...

The piston size is smaller than Honda C70.... The valve which is 16 in total, are around the size 10 cent coins....
This year I almost wanna buy this bike, but my mech advise me against them....

He said for inline 4, the minimum 'safe' capacity will be 400cc..

Just my 2 cent advice....

Please forget tat melodious inline 4 of zx2.... U'll regret... Each month, my mech will do around 4 zx2 overhauls...

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Added on December 24, 2011, 4:58 pmNope... Now got 78 hp....

This post has been edited by masz94: Dec 24 2011, 04:58 PM

Wtf is this crap?! I would straight away change that damn school and shit list it base on the following

1. Did the instructors teach you how to ride a clutch operated bike as in well enough for you to understand? If they did not, change schools. If yes, you ought to pay more attention.

2. You will not be allowed to take B full license if the instructor/s feels that you are not fit. But you have the rights to question them and learn from there. Take a proactive step to learn how to ride a bike.

3. There are no superbike license - in Malaysia, its B-full. Even our local ARRC riders also dont have superbike license. I also dont have superbike license, dont own a superbike as well but rides like one on my 100cc orange kapchai (in my dreams laaaaaaa)

From my personal experience:

I started taking interest in riding after 6 months long consideration between changing my car or getting a bike. Finally, tried something different and forked out for a used 750cc naked bike. Rode around with L license and at the same time, was attending riding lessons. Dropped my bike at 0km/h 4 times altogether and made sure I did not make the same mistakes again as all 4 times were different scenario. Started off with a Jaguh in riding school and learned the basics. Went home applied it on my bike and slowly gained more confidence. A week after that, used the driving school's ER6N and built more confidence and learnt the riding essentials. Confidence built and balls also getting bigger. Started taking my bike out to work and short rides. 2 weeks after that, completed the whole course and got my B-full. Couple of days after that, rode my bike across the border for the first time.

Today, upgraded my ride and rode like a super rempit. Feel like the king of the road and if people messes or intimidates me such as vehicles changing lanes without signalling - I will reach to my pouch and grab couple of marbles or AA sized batteries and throw it on the air hoping to land on the windscreens. Hope to hear tyre screeching and let those punks pay for messing with a hooligan like myself. So far, I have been lucky coz no farts would dare intimidate me further except for this PoS friend of mine whom drives a 520whp/70kg torque machine. That idiot is the only fella which would dare tailgate me at speeds beyond 200+ be it on the straights or corner.

Last but not least, chill and be patient as my last paragraph was meant for shits & giggles. I get comments that I ride a grandfather bike and rides like one as well.

aduih the other thread too pro ady lol: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=47413917


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anyone care to provide any insights?

Good morningComrades...
Good news...
1. started 7 am today - bike stopped idling once choke stopped - but i admit now i know i must be patient for few minutes to warm engine. However what if i have to go somewhere fast? So i maxed the choke - saying i will reduce it later. Of course i forgot and remembered only when i came back home. So 2 issues:
a. i keep forgetting to switch on the red on/off button after i turn ignition key - maybe better to leave the red button on always.
b. forget to reduce choke after riding on max choke for a while - no solution for this.

2. Otherwise engine behaving so well - even when i'm dropping down gear at high speed engine didn't die. Had no problem at all in traffic lights
3. now got NEW ISSUE: when riding high speed and you approach a slight curve in the road, i find the bike not bending as i want it and going in a straight line (not following the white lines on road) - one such road i found myself like that - my bike moving straight, has drifted from one white line to the next lean during the corner (ie not following the road/corner line) - there were no cars behind me but not following corner line is dangerous i think. I usually slow for heavy corners, but moderate s shaped road you don't want to slow down, you just want to follow the curve an enjoy the ride...have to figure this out.

I have had some thoughts on best cc bike to start out , and also a solution i found for being unable to see well with my side mirrors - i feel like a 'little' guru now -having got some hands on knowledge during riding - i'll post them after my breakfast...thinking between mee kari/ roti sardin - can't get good spicy food nowadays - even chili padi is like meh - maybe coz they dump the thing in cuka or soya sauce...