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lucifah
post Nov 21 2011, 11:20 AM

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guys,

dunno if this is the correct place to ask - but just how easy is it to ride the er6-n?

and when will the 2012 Er6-n will be in our shores? expected pricing?
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post Nov 21 2011, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(leinnz @ Nov 21 2011, 11:54 AM)
for street road. very easy. for highway, if push to the limit hard to control
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how about from someone who has been riding a scooter all these while?

i know i have to learn manual clutch, but just how hard can it be? i expect a few falls now and then... learning curve
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post Nov 22 2011, 08:13 AM

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QUOTE(junbecks @ Nov 21 2011, 03:11 PM)
hrm, if you're afraid of the falling bit (jatuh bodoh, not jatuh accident) then you might want to get something cheaper (in between)
its very easy to ride bro, no worries.
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QUOTE(T600 @ Nov 21 2011, 08:15 PM)
Kawasaki ER6 is the most newbie friendly 650cc big motorcycle out there, it handles good, and have a lot of power on the highway, and the size is not too big and can easily maneuver through traffic.

If you never been on the bike with clutch before, I suggest you borrow a motorcycle such as Yamaha FZ150 from your friend (if can), learn how the clutch work, try to handle the bike at slow speed and feathering the clutch, once you get use to it, you are ready to go. Or better go to driving school and take B-Full lol.

Since you are new to big motorcycle, chances of dropping the bike at low speeds are higher than at high speed.

My first motorcycle was Honda EX5 (stolen) lol, and after 2 times (2 hour) driving lesson on the Jaguh 175 at driving school, the next day I booked for a new ER6N as my second bike, that time is the first time I sat on the Kawasaki ER6N, I rode home without any problem.

The size and weight of the bike is not an issue for me as I am 50kg (mosquito on a big bike), after a surgery where I lost another 5kg, I still be able to handle the bike and ride it like I stole it lol.

Like other said, it is very easy, go for it, and ER6 engine never kacau.
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QUOTE(whatsupbro @ Nov 22 2011, 12:21 AM)
No matter how big or small u are.. the technique to ride a bike properly is the key to successfully handlng your bike..

I would say... try something like FZ150 or Ninja 150 to get the hang of the clutching system.. and then decide if easy riding or more sportier style that u prefer.. and look at your budget...
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thanks for the assuring feedback - i do expect lots of falls, hence i'm trying to find a 2nd hand er6n (though i am secretly waiting for the 2012 er6-n)

i was very worried about the size as i'm a small sized guy

as for the clutch, i rode a kawa z250 for a week or two previously. i can get the hang of it, but just like a newbie driver, i will get stuck in front of traffic lights... cool2.gif always forgot to release the clutch slowly or did not engage the correct 1st gear

i guess my 1st step is to get a b-full license 1st...
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post Nov 27 2011, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(T600 @ Nov 22 2011, 10:50 AM)
atleast you are not smaller than me lol, I weigh in last night, only 47kg, and I 175cm tall, I only lowslide once! which I hit the gravel in a motorcycle lane, as for dropping the bike because of weight nope. 1 thing for sure, during cornering don't hit the brake, using engine braking instead, will save you from lowslide.

I played with my ER6N for 1 year, put 20,000KM on it, the bike is so much fun! very easy to corner (knee down), and stable as hell, now currently riding 1000cc supersport, once you got your 650cc let's go out lol, you will make a good laugh at me when you see a skinny guy like me on a 1000cc  rclxub.gif .

I miss my ER6. sad.gif
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i'm only 165cm tall... weight standard 60kg. can ride er6n with legs touching ground or not?

scare later on malu when come to stand still at traffic light... blush.gif
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post Nov 29 2011, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(phobian @ Nov 29 2011, 02:15 AM)
lucifah, so long as your toes can touch the ground - not an issue. Height is merely a mental hurdle to overcome for newbies, which I have been through it myself. It is all about riding confidence. I am 168cm in height and could ride a 990SMR with just tip toe-ing.

I bought a 07 Z750 as my first bike with little to none riding experience. Jatuh bodoh in total of 4 times and sworn to myself never to make the same mistake twice. Ride more often and put myself in many different scenarios to get familiar with the hazards. Upgraded to a litre super naked 4 months after riding the Z750. Clocked about 7.1kms since I got the bike late August - countless cross country & in country trips. One to remember, rode directly from KL to Phuket, 14 1/2 hours and 1010kms in a day. No regrets for taking up this hobby.

Principally, I feel that it does not matter if you own a 125, 250, 650, 1000 or 1700cc bike. If you have assess the risk and maintain strict discipline of handling the bike at your own means & limit, do not bother what others say. It is your money, your bike and ride it however you want. Nevertheless, with great power comes great responsibility.
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the main reason i am very concerned about height is i'm looking for a streetfighter type of bike to ride in city / town traffic

i'm currently using a small scooter (ego lc 125)


i will probably never ride it out of town, so high speed riding is not a main criteria...


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post Nov 29 2011, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(phobian @ Nov 29 2011, 03:22 PM)
Do you have friends riding scramblers? If yes, you may want to learn using their bikes - that would inch your fear off heights. I had basic riding training on ER6N, and I made it a point that riding a "big" bike is not about how fast you can squeeze off the throttle - but how well you can maneuver on low speed. I practised a lot on lock to lock turns, 3 point turns - which requires you to either peddle the bike backward or push the bike and elevations - uphill or downhill.

I forgot to add another important point. My dad once told me, you do not own a bike if you cannot pick it up yourself!
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good point there - i have to consider it too...

er6-n should be about 200kg, right? time to start weight training


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post Nov 29 2011, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(phobian @ Nov 29 2011, 08:59 PM)
If i recall correctly, ER6N should weight no more than 180kg with fuel. No need to do any weight training, practise the techniques required how to pick a fallen bike would do.
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thanks for the info

but still need to practice, so can angkat the fallen bike with gaya in front of all those honking cars at traffic light intersection
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post Nov 30 2011, 09:11 PM

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i'll call the er6-n a streetfighter, not a streetbike, or a superbike (seriously, the er6 650cc engine noise is mehh... doh.gif)
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post Jan 11 2012, 11:09 PM

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anyone got the prices for the 2012 er6-n ?

i was told the bike will cost approx 38k when it arrives next week, and they only have yellow color at the moment

i was quite shocked, cos it's the same price with a versys 650...

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post Jan 16 2012, 08:53 AM

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QUOTE(T600 @ Jan 12 2012, 02:00 PM)
Welly RM33289

ER6N 2012
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i wonder how much will it costs to ship it to sarawak?

the local bike shop here sells it for 38k!
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post Feb 3 2012, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(hkspower @ Jan 31 2012, 02:32 PM)
dl it all bro, its not easy, got all the movie but missing bonus scene in 4 n 5
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QUOTE(icecolddamncold @ Jan 31 2012, 08:21 PM)
mind dropping me a pm on the site where u downloaded?  notworthy.gif
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hey, hey

easy there bro

piracy is a violence of the forum rule. so respect it.
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post Feb 9 2012, 08:26 PM

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guys, i'm plunging cash on a brand new er6-n 2012 (unfrotunately, only yellow available at the moment) tomorrow

what should i look for in a brand new bike? in term of defects, or things that i need to be aware of?

buying it from an authorised kawa re-seller

and can an ABS unit be retro-fitted later? (malaysia import models don't have ABS doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif)
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post Feb 10 2012, 10:11 AM

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QUOTE(dinraxxx @ Feb 10 2012, 03:30 AM)

1st things 1st, Change it's tyres.Most of my friends who got the Er6N says the stock tires tend to wear out very fast.2nd, make sure everything in order, brakes, headlamps and rear light is in order..And congrats bro on your purchase!
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the stock tyres are japan-made dunlops

so what tyre / brand do you suggest? do i keep to the same size as stock tyres?

how much would i expect to get in from selling back the original stock tyres?


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post Feb 10 2012, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(T600 @ Feb 10 2012, 10:37 AM)
want to go out for some tea time?  brows.gif
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unfortunately, i'm on the other side of malaysia... so need to catch a boat 1st... biggrin.gif

QUOTE(sanosizo @ Feb 10 2012, 11:30 AM)
use the stock tires first and learn to ride/feel/understand the bike. stock tires are good enough for everyday use imo.
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gonna heed your advice...

i'm a total newbie... my normal ride is an automatic scooter (ego 125lc)

and jumping straight to a full clutch-manual gears with 70+hp is a big culture shock to me

have to relearn my riding skill




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post Feb 11 2012, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(monaz @ Feb 11 2012, 06:04 PM)

160/60?  shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif

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what is your opinion on the stock dunlop 160/60 ?
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post Feb 12 2012, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(ikiey @ Feb 12 2012, 06:08 PM)
The ER6/Ninja 650 OEM rear tyre is 160/60 Bro... Rim width is 4.5" only
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yes, it's also stated in the brochure

and i thought the 160/60 is quite wide for a 650cc street bike?
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post Feb 14 2012, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(slowzkingz @ Feb 14 2012, 04:26 PM)
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post Feb 20 2012, 11:45 PM

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so guys, my new er6-n bike is out in a few days' time

what advice u sifu have for a noob like me so i don't crash my bike the second i got it out from the bike shop? whistling.gif

i know the tyres are still covered in wax, so it will be a bit slippery (and god forbid tyre shines). so, very gentle throttle and very gentle turns will be the order for a few days

what else?

mind you, i'm a total moped / scooter (automatic / cvt drive) kind of guy for the past 4 years, sooo noobie that during my 1st test ride on a sample bike, i almost slid and fell off the bike for turning the handlebar too sideway (actually still normal on a scooter) and open the throttle. fuh.... sweat.gif that is one scary moment. in other word, total noob. perhaps a foolish one

advice, guys notworthy.gif

1. first ride out of the shop
2. breaking in the engine
3. proper clutch usage

don't worry about protection as i still have my givi hps helmet (nolan 104 pre-ordered brows.gif ), gloves, and safety boots on. just don't want to look like a fool who totalled his bike 5 min out of the shop biggrin.gif

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post Mar 7 2012, 09:46 PM

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guys, i have a question

how do i read the engine oil level from the sight glass at the bottom of the crank case?

do i read it when i use the kick stand (slight slanted) or on an upright position?
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post Mar 7 2012, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(masz94 @ Mar 7 2012, 10:27 PM)
Yes Monaz & T600 is correct.... And make sure that when ur measuring the oil level, the engine is cool...  This is because it takes some time for the oil that's coating the cylinder & piston to come down (Is this sentence is correct ? lol)...

Only then u'll have the correct measurement... When u measure it when the engine just turned off, u will have low reading....  laugh.gif
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so, u take the reading when the engine has cooled off?

it's exactly the opposite way with conventional dip-stick where it recommends you to run the engine for a while before checking oil.

i was worried coz i noticed the engine oil level is on the low side, even if the bike is put upright. but that was just after i turned the engine off

soo... i have to wait for it to cool down?


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