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gataddhin
post Nov 10 2022, 03:59 PM

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Total RM4258. About 10% of my bike value.
At least I feel comfortable and safe.
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post Nov 10 2022, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(gataddhin @ Nov 10 2022, 03:56 PM)
My ATGATT

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that jeans not available in the market anymore i guess
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post Nov 10 2022, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(gataddhin @ Nov 10 2022, 03:59 PM)
Total RM4258. About 10% of my bike value.
At least I feel comfortable and safe.
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Treat the money you spend in safety gears as an insurance.


This is how I look at it.
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post Nov 10 2022, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(Aaronnnnnn @ Nov 10 2022, 09:26 AM)
i really want to buy a good affordable riding pants <$200, but the pants recommended by ryan F9 all not in MY huhuhu
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Don't think you can get proper riding pants under 200 here. Proper ones with Kevlar lining will be closer to 500 even on sale.

Incidentally, These just came in the mail.

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Thick cotton/khaki type material. Single layer. Won't slide worth shit. But at least it has armour pocket on hip and knees. Paid like 70 each. Just treat it as normal pants.

I wear these on the daily to work along with my other single layer jeans. Let's face it, you are not going for a long slide in city traffic. Impact protection is more important. It's a compromise I'm willing to make for cost and comfort.

Kevlar lined is just a bit too hot in daily traffic.

Slide protection or not, these are way more comfortable on a bike than normal jeans, since they are cut for riding and have stretch fabric at the correct places....and correct lenght so you don't look like wearing 3/4 pants when on the bike.

This post has been edited by jaycee1: Nov 10 2022, 05:50 PM
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post Nov 10 2022, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(gataddhin @ Nov 10 2022, 03:59 PM)
Total RM4258. About 10% of my bike value.
At least I feel comfortable and safe.
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My gear cost 1/2 as much as my bike. Hahaha.
gataddhin
post Nov 10 2022, 05:55 PM

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My Komine WJ733 jeans use high-strength fiber Kevlar for hip and knee lining only. Thus it is not so hot to wear. I was quoted RM1K plus for Revit full long length Kevlar jeans. Now RM1,140 for 2 Komine jeans. Can swap when one is wet.
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post Nov 10 2022, 09:05 PM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Nov 10 2022, 10:26 AM)
both are nylon Cordura pants, thanks but I suggest you skip just get polyester or mix cotton
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what is the rational behind it? please share. cotton or poly+cotton no slide protection, later DNA on the tarmac.

I think the optimum option is either cordura, or kevlar lined on the knee and bum. BUT, fake Komine with real CE1 is better than normal jeans, I've seen those being quite affordable, so no excuse really.

This post has been edited by Jason: Nov 10 2022, 09:05 PM
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post Nov 10 2022, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(Jason @ Nov 10 2022, 09:05 PM)
what is the rational behind it? please share. cotton or poly+cotton no slide protection, later DNA on the tarmac.

I think the optimum option is either cordura, or kevlar lined on the knee and bum. BUT, fake Komine with real CE1 is better than normal jeans, I've seen those being quite affordable, so no excuse really.
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Cordura is just a brand name of a nylon based fabric.

For slide abrasion, you need to look at the fabric density. Any fabric with weave densities of 800 (denoted denier) or more will offer good slide abrasion. Basically, more fabric, better abrasion resistance.

Kevlar just adds tensile strength, it actually doesn't abrade that well, but what it does is, it doesn't rip. So you will still get some protection if your main fabric rips for some reason.

A proper riding garment is also built differently with a lot more reinforced stitching. Hence the cost. If your seams rip, whatever high denier fabric you use would be useless.

Nothing beats proper thick leather though. Even those are double or triple stitched.

This post has been edited by jaycee1: Nov 10 2022, 10:39 PM
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post Nov 10 2022, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(gataddhin @ Nov 10 2022, 03:59 PM)
Total RM4258. About 10% of my bike value.
At least I feel comfortable and safe.
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For mine,

Shoei Neotec 2 - RM3100
Cardo Freecom 4+ - RM950 i think
Furygan Jet Gloves - RM200 i think
Furygan WB07 Jacket - RM450
Fruygan Back Protector - RM221
Furygan Jeans - RM369
Alpinestars CR-X Drystar Shoes - RM820

Total - RM6,110

Yeap, my gear is worth half my bike laugh.gif

Haven't add in raincoat RM250, or if remove the Cardo also still RM5k+. Gloves and jacket all consider entry-level stuff only samore. Then again, Malaysia too hot for more protective gear :sad:

QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Nov 10 2022, 05:29 PM)
Don't think you can get proper riding pants under 200 here. Proper ones with Kevlar lining will be closer to 500 even on sale.

Incidentally, These just came in the mail.

user posted image

Thick cotton/khaki type material. Single layer. Won't slide worth shit. But at least it has armour pocket on hip and knees. Paid like 70 each. Just treat it as normal pants.

I wear these on the daily to work along with my other single layer jeans. Let's face it, you are not going for a long slide in city traffic. Impact protection is more important. It's a compromise I'm willing to make for cost and comfort.

Kevlar lined is just a bit too hot in daily traffic.

Slide protection or not, these are way more comfortable on a bike than normal jeans, since they are cut for riding and have stretch fabric at the correct places....and correct lenght so you don't look like wearing 3/4 pants when on the bike.
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My riding jeans claims to be 10% Kevlar though it looks like any other regular jeans sweat.gif
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post Nov 11 2022, 09:11 AM

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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Nov 10 2022, 11:40 PM)
My riding jeans claims to be 10% Kevlar though it looks like any other regular jeans sweat.gif
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Kevlar is the yellowish fabric on the inside

QUOTE(Jason @ Nov 10 2022, 09:05 PM)
what is the rational behind it? please share. cotton or poly+cotton no slide protection, later DNA on the tarmac.

I think the optimum option is either cordura, or kevlar lined on the knee and bum. BUT, fake Komine with real CE1 is better than normal jeans, I've seen those being quite affordable, so no excuse really.
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this page helped me decide:
https://www.servicethread.com/blog/material...ester-and-nylon

TLDR:
nylon is 10% stronger than poly, when new
nylon degrades in UV (become powder puff) - some plastics loses 75% strength after 6 days of UV exposure
nylon absorbs moisture (cooler fabric than poly)
nylon is less resistant to chemicals and petroleum products

Also, mission critical ropes such as those used in emergency services almost always use polyester. Nylon would have to be UV treated.

This post has been edited by alexei: Nov 11 2022, 09:31 AM
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post Nov 11 2022, 10:09 AM

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Kevlar lining in gloves and pants be like this

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post Nov 11 2022, 10:17 AM

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Fabric textile abrasion resistance and durability are two different aspect, with the later usually less published. Ever kena some synthetic material like jacket or windbreaker that comes apart, or disintegrate, or just rips to shreds after several years? Pay attention to the material and you shall see.

Leather also have its own grades, from different animal sources - goat, cow, kangaroo, stingray, and different grades of the same - full grain, top, etc. Some brands have their own treatment (oils, conditioners) to make their leather look and feel better.

In my experience, leather is heavier, and protects against heat from the sun. Meaning, if you stay under the sun while not moving, the leather doesn't let the heat from the sun into the rider, but you'll sweat nonetheless.

Comparing perforated leather to textile jackets with air vents, I prefer leather. Mesh jacket is "better than nothing" category.
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QUOTE(alexei @ Nov 11 2022, 09:11 AM)
Kevlar is the yellowish fabric on the inside
this page helped me decide:
https://www.servicethread.com/blog/material...ester-and-nylon

TLDR:
nylon is 10% stronger than poly, when new
nylon degrades in UV (become powder puff) - some plastics loses 75% strength after 6 days of UV exposure
nylon absorbs moisture (cooler fabric than poly)
nylon is less resistant to chemicals and petroleum products

Also, mission critical ropes such as those used in emergency services almost always use polyester. Nylon would have to be UV treated.
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QUOTE(alexei @ Nov 11 2022, 10:09 AM)
Kevlar lining in gloves and pants be like this

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Ahh makes sense now. Though mine is more white than yellow, and it doesn't cover as much of an area as the pictures you posted. But seems to be most of the higher risk areas covered I guess.

QUOTE(alexei @ Nov 11 2022, 10:17 AM)
Fabric textile abrasion resistance and durability are two different aspect, with the later usually less published. Ever kena some synthetic material like jacket or windbreaker that comes apart, or disintegrate, or just rips to shreds after several years? Pay attention to the material and you shall see.

Leather also have its own grades, from different animal sources - goat, cow, kangaroo, stingray, and different grades of the same - full grain, top, etc. Some brands have their own treatment (oils, conditioners) to make their leather look and feel better.

In my experience, leather is heavier, and protects against heat from the sun. Meaning, if you stay under the sun while not moving, the leather doesn't let the heat from the sun into the rider, but you'll sweat nonetheless.

Comparing perforated leather to textile jackets with air vents, I prefer leather. Mesh jacket is "better than nothing" category.
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My RS Taichi textile/mesh jacket is 5 years old now and if not because of a small hole from my previous crash, I kid you not, is still in perfect condition, even the internal liner. I guess RS Taichi uses some very nice textile for their jacket to last this long with pretty regular use.

Which perforated leather jacket do you use though?
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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Nov 10 2022, 05:29 PM)
Don't think you can get proper riding pants under 200 here. Proper ones with Kevlar lining will be closer to 500 even on sale.

Incidentally, These just came in the mail.

user posted image

Thick cotton/khaki type material. Single layer. Won't slide worth shit. But at least it has armour pocket on hip and knees. Paid like 70 each. Just treat it as normal pants.

I wear these on the daily to work along with my other single layer jeans. Let's face it, you are not going for a long slide in city traffic. Impact protection is more important. It's a compromise I'm willing to make for cost and comfort.

Kevlar lined is just a bit too hot in daily traffic.

Slide protection or not, these are way more comfortable on a bike than normal jeans, since they are cut for riding and have stretch fabric at the correct places....and correct lenght so you don't look like wearing 3/4 pants when on the bike.
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where did you got these from?
nice quality for RM70.

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post Nov 14 2022, 07:49 AM

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QUOTE(paskal @ Nov 12 2022, 08:32 AM)
where did you got these from?
nice quality for RM70.

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Shopeegot.

Just look around.

https://shopee.com.my/product/783093038/208...61-1668383226.9



These, I opted out of the stock armour as I have my own upgraded armour. So it's just kosong. Decent as daily pants. Just don't expect them to slide well.

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This post has been edited by jaycee1: Nov 14 2022, 07:53 AM
Aaronnnnnn
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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Nov 10 2022, 05:29 PM)
Don't think you can get proper riding pants under 200 here. Proper ones with Kevlar lining will be closer to 500 even on sale.

Incidentally, These just came in the mail.

user posted image

Thick cotton/khaki type material. Single layer. Won't slide worth shit. But at least it has armour pocket on hip and knees. Paid like 70 each. Just treat it as normal pants.

I wear these on the daily to work along with my other single layer jeans. Let's face it, you are not going for a long slide in city traffic. Impact protection is more important. It's a compromise I'm willing to make for cost and comfort.

Kevlar lined is just a bit too hot in daily traffic.

Slide protection or not, these are way more comfortable on a bike than normal jeans, since they are cut for riding and have stretch fabric at the correct places....and correct lenght so you don't look like wearing 3/4 pants when on the bike.
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not talking about RM200 laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Nov 11 2022, 11:39 PM)
Which perforated leather jacket do you use though?
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RS Taichi
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post Nov 14 2022, 10:33 AM

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Actually I have a spare riding pant/jeans. Wrong size/cutting for me.. Same design as the new ones I got above.

Green. No armour. (I can probably find and include some Eva hip pads and knee pads if you want, but better just buy your own armour). Branded "Komine". Worn only a few times. 1 size too big for me. Suitable for 32-33inch and 170cm.

Free to a good home. Pickup at Sunway area if interested. PM.
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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Nov 14 2022, 07:49 AM)
Shopeegot.

Just look around.

https://shopee.com.my/product/783093038/208...61-1668383226.9
These, I opted out of the stock armour as I have my own upgraded armour. So it's just kosong. Decent as daily pants. Just don't expect them to slide well.

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Thanks.
Added to cart.
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post Nov 16 2022, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(paskal @ Nov 16 2022, 11:42 AM)
Thanks.
Added to cart.
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Just to note if you are getting the "grey" one...it's not actually grey as in the pictures..it's more like navy with a hint of grey.

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