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post Oct 27 2022, 10:49 AM, updated 2y ago

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Nissan Almera 1.0 Turbo (VLT) R2 - Owner's Journal

Will be sharing my Ownership Experience / Costs / Thoughts / Issues. I am no expert in the matter nor do I have any knowledge in cars. Used to be driving my Dad's Nissan Almera (N17), purchased in 2013. It was the highest specification - VL if I am not mistaken. Was looking for a new car and was in a bit of a hurry. Called up Honda, Toyota, and Perodua; waiting time was about 4 months. Called up Nissan, waiting time was 1 month. Hence, I purchased the Nissan Almera Turbo 1.0 (N18). Purchased it from Edaran Tan Chong Motor (Tengah) Sdn Bhd, Seksyen 13, Petaling Jaya Branch. I purchased it from the Salesperson named Luqman Hakim, great guy and explained well. Only thing my concern was the 7,000KM Service Interval. But I still went with it.

Initial costing are as follows:

Booking Fee: RM 100.00

Registration Date: End September, 2022

Vehicle Selling Price: RM 95,668.00

Additional / Optional Accessories, Package - Tomei (VLT): RM 8,000.00 (EDIT: This was Free)

Year Road Tax: RM 20.00

Year Comprehensive / 3rd Party Insurance, (RHB / Insured RM 96,000.00): RM 2,626.59

Registration Fee: RM 150.00

Hire - Purchase Ownership Claim Fee: RM 50.00

It comes with 5 Years / 70,000KM* WITH 5 TIMES FREE MAINTENANCE SERVICE ON ALTERNATE INTERVAL FROM 7,000KM / 6TH MONTH*. PARTS & LABOUR INCLUDED. (*WHICHEVER COMES 1ST)

Vehicle Warranty: 5 Years Warranty With Unlimited Mileage

Free Gift: Road Tax Sticker

Free Gift: Umbrella

Please do take note that I had purchased my License Plate Number through the JPJ E-Bid prior to car purchase. With the E - Bid, you have 1 Year to register the vehicle with the number plate (might vary from time of posting). Hence, that is probably why there isn't any License Plate Fee.

Additionally, I will not be sharing my loan details / initial payment amount whatsoever as it varies with each individual.

This post has been edited by keithdx: Oct 27 2022, 12:41 PM
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post Oct 27 2022, 10:51 AM

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Since they dont charge u license plate, do they charge something else like plate number registration into car.... something to earn quick bucks?

Can u share process of registering bidding number to yr car pls. Tq

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Wah.. I so jelly. I love CVT, torsion beam, and B segment goodies.

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Turbo looks good

I will buy one if I have extra money
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post Oct 27 2022, 10:59 AM

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95k plus the body kit 8k is already 103k.

now b segment jap car all start to enter 100k range.
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post Oct 27 2022, 11:01 AM

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Bodykit need to buy? They dont give free?

That's why nissan fail in malaysia.
See toyota give bodykits free je
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post Oct 27 2022, 11:02 AM

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wow dint expect it to be that expensive
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post Oct 27 2022, 11:02 AM

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Got heater a/c or not?
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QUOTE(pureawesomeness @ Oct 27 2022, 10:54 AM)
Wah.. I so jelly. I love CVT, torsion beam, and A segment goodies.
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you write so details, why never share how much discount your SA give you, or how much you over trade your car?

Tan Chong is famous to give very high discount for their cars.
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how's the paint quality? cheapo / thin like the new vios?
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7k service interval, strange. mostly either 5k or 10k.


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post Oct 27 2022, 11:06 AM

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1.0 TURBO TOPKEK
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1.0 T engine is 3 cyc engine?

I looking at car with the 2.0T engine but I think replacement is 2.4T
bigger engine but almost same hp, cipet... considering buying 2nd hand like that
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Best design in B Segment. Reliability is not yet proven.
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isnt the Tomei package free?
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You'll probably have better luck with a thread like this in the F&F section.

What kinda discounts did you get from ETCM?

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QUOTE(pureawesomeness @ Oct 27 2022, 10:54 AM)
Wah.. I so jelly. I love CVT, torsion beam, and A segment goodies.
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same as vios city ?

any exception for B segment sedan at that price?
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QUOTE(kons @ Oct 27 2022, 11:05 AM)
7k service interval, strange. mostly either 5k or 10k.
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Tebu got shorter service interval
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QUOTE(msacras @ Oct 27 2022, 11:14 AM)
Tebu got shorter service interval
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accord 1.5 tcp still 10k km
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QUOTE(msacras @ Oct 27 2022, 11:14 AM)
Tebu got shorter service interval
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Ativa 1.0T still 10K interval

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QUOTE(msacras @ Oct 27 2022, 11:14 AM)
Tebu got shorter service interval
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Is Nissan tan chong punya policy…
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QUOTE(kons @ Oct 27 2022, 11:16 AM)
accord 1.5 tcp still 10k km
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accord 1.5tcp do not follow 10k interval
they follow electronic meter counter.
will need replacement anywhere from 6k to 10k depending on your driving pattern
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QUOTE(matrix88 @ Oct 27 2022, 11:20 AM)
accord 1.5tcp do not follow 10k interval
they follow electronic meter counter.
will need replacement anywhere from 6k to 10k depending on your driving pattern
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oh my car actual mileage just 900km
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QUOTE(kons @ Oct 27 2022, 12:16 PM)
accord 1.5 tcp still 10k km
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Nop. Depending on board computer.
Civic 1.5T owners also feedback if always kaki berat or always stuck in traffic jam it will automatically cut short to around 6~7k oil change.
CRV 1.5T also same, as i knew 1 salesman driving it and complain of higher maintenance cost per year compare to his older ride. Even tho cheap road tax, but more time going in n out service center. In the end also contra back the cheap road tax benefits become none.

Unless you always drive highway at legal speed and light footed than maybe can reach 10k, but how many people got that discipline.

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turbo dun skim on oil change... also remember to cool the turbo, last 1000-500m before your destination, drive slow let the oil cool the turbo and your car should last very long

never had any issue with my turbo car until written off in accident
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Until today the only weakness i heard from new Almera Turbo is the engine mounting wont last too long and after sometime the vibration can be felt even worse. Do remember that the 1.0T engine is still 3-cylinder, so the design itself is not that balance or less vibration compare to like 4-cylinder engine. The only solution is to claim new engine mounting if within warranty, this is what i heard from a Nissan technician.
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QUOTE(Chisinlouz @ Oct 27 2022, 10:51 AM)
Since they dont charge u license plate, do they charge something else like plate number registration into car.... something to earn quick bucks?

Can u share process of registering bidding number to yr car pls. Tq
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They did not charge anything extra, at least with my experience.

I will try to remember as much as I can with JPJ E - Bid, I can't remember in exact detail.
- So, JPJ released a few state Alphabets - there were 3 at that time.
- I pick let's for example RXX alphabet. Then I choose the number that I want to bid on - for example 1234.
- When I search for 1234, it will show the starting Bid amount, you would need to pay RM 10, to take part in the bidding and see the current Bid price.
- So let's say if you're interested in RXX 1234, when you place the Bid, you would need to pay it immediately. If you lose the Bid, it's refunded.
- Let's say if you already paid the RM 10 to see the live Bidding for RXX 1234, but you're not interested; you would need to pay another RM 10 to see another live Bidding Plate (example: RXX 2345).
- 30 Minutes before the Bidding closes, the price interval for each Bid increases. Plus the majority of the Bids happens closer to the time just before the price internal goes up (9:30PM if I'm not mistaken).

Hope this helps. I received the soft copy document that I am the owner of the plate on the E - Bid site / app or through email (can't remember) and that document was what I passed to the Sales Person. And he got it done.

That's as much I can remember actually.
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QUOTE(darkterror15 @ Oct 27 2022, 10:59 AM)
95k plus the body kit 8k is already 103k.

now b segment jap car all start to enter 100k range.
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I've edited the initial posting, the Tomei Bodykit came in free (worth RM 8K).
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QUOTE(matrix88 @ Oct 27 2022, 11:03 AM)
you write so details, why never share how much discount your SA give you, or how much you over trade your car?

Tan Chong is famous to give very high discount for their cars.
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No other discounts given other than the ones stated (if any). Maybe I'm not lucky enough
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QUOTE(keithdx @ Oct 27 2022, 11:44 AM)
I've edited the initial posting, the Tomei Bodykit came in free (worth RM 8K).
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usually you can ask SA to trade the bodykit with cashback.

i owned a 2014 almera. that time the rebate almost same as bodykit. if opt for bodykit then no cashback.
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Before I could share any more on the experience, there's already a few comments here and there.

Got the Almera in white, paint so far all good. Whether thin or not, I have no idea. But I do wash the car weekly.

I have no complains with the interior aside from the Beige wrap on the Dashboard and on the seats. Would rather have it in all black.

MY OVERALL DRIVING EXPERIENCE THUS FAR (FROM PURCHASE TO 1,000KM)

Just keep in mind that, I do not know much driving terms, just a regular person sharing so others may find it helpful.

- It's quiet. Everything is dampened quite well. For the doors, you may have to close it a little bit more harder haha. Nothing wrong with that. Quiet maybe because of the Continental UC6 that it comes with.

- If I'm not mistaken, Full Tank is about RM 65, I will fill it until I am able to see the petrol at the top of the hole. Have not gone entirely on the highway but so far it with a city highway + city, it's about 450 - 470KM per fill (my experience). The counting on the meter shows 13KM/L I think. Home to work is about 1.5KM. So not much long distance travel, all nearby and sometimes highway.

- Used the Cruise Control once, don't find it really useful unless it's Adaptive Cruise Control.

- The Side / Rear / 360 Cameras are great and pretty accurate. During my initial test drive, the Salesperson showed how accurate it was. So no complains there. I like it that when I put it in reverse and turn the steering wheel, the guides turn as well. Don't want to start any fires here but it's better than the cameras on the current Flagship X50.

- There was one time I was about to enter the Smart Tunnel and just before entering I think there was this Height Limit sign just above the road (stretched across). I was going at about 80KM/H I think and suddenly the emergency brake thingy kicked in and went off after about 1 second / half a second. Not sure why but maybe it detected a possible hit.

- I use an Android and there's no Android Auto. But it connects via Bluetooth automatically whenever I switch on the car, so that doesn't really bother me. I still prefer to use Waze on my phone. It has Apple CarPlay but it's not wireless though.

- Acceleration is alright. It does the job when I need it to. It can take curves at a pretty reasonable speed, tried it at 90KM/H+, I didn't feel much, was pretty planted and smooth. I think the seats (because it's pretty bolstered on the side) helped as well.

- The top of the Dashboard is flat so can place the Smart Tag Holder and etc easily.

- Aircond is cold. And I don't think rear air vents are needed. Even with the lowest speed, it's cold.

That's about all there is thus far. Just done my 1,000KM Service and will update soon!

Any questions, drop ahead

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QUOTE(keithdx @ Oct 27 2022, 01:12 PM)
Before I could share any more on the experience, there's already a few comments here and there.

Got the Almera in white, paint so far all good. Whether thin or not, I have no idea. But I do wash the car weekly.

I have no complains with the interior aside from the Beige wrap on the Dashboard and on the seats. Would rather have it in all black.

MY OVERALL DRIVING EXPERIENCE THUS FAR (FROM PURCHASE TO 1,000KM)

Just keep in mind that, I do not know much driving terms, just a regular person sharing so others may find it helpful.

- It's quiet. Everything is dampened quite well. For the doors, you may have to close it a little bit more harder haha. Nothing wrong with that. Quiet maybe because of the Continental UC6 that it comes with.

- If I'm not mistaken, Full Tank is about RM 65, I will fill it until I am able to see the petrol at the top of the hole. Have not gone entirely on the highway but so far it with a city highway + city, it's about 450 - 470KM per fill (my experience). The counting on the meter shows 13KM/L I think. Home to work is about 1.5KM. So not much long distance travel, all nearby and sometimes highway.

- Used the Cruise Control once, don't find it really useful unless it's Adaptive Cruise Control.

- The Side / Rear / 360 Cameras are great and pretty accurate. During my initial test drive, the Salesperson showed how accurate it was. So no complains there. I like it that when I put it in reverse and turn the steering wheel, the guides turn as well. Don't want to start any fires here but it's better than the cameras on the current Flagship X50.

- There was one time I was about to enter the Smart Tunnel and just before entering I think there was this Height Limit sign just above the road (stretched across). I was going at about 80KM/H I think and suddenly the emergency brake thingy kicked in and went off after about 1 second / half a second. Not sure why but maybe it detected a possible hit.

- I use an Android and there's no Android Auto. But it connects via Bluetooth automatically whenever I switch on the car, so that doesn't really bother me. I still prefer to use Waze on my phone. It has Apple CarPlay but it's not wireless though.

- Acceleration is alright. It does the job when I need it to. It can take curves at a pretty reasonable speed, tried it at 90KM/H+, I didn't feel much, was pretty planted and smooth. I think the seats (because it's pretty bolstered on the side) helped as well.

- The top of the Dashboard is flat so can place the Smart Tag Holder and etc easily.

- Aircond is cold. And I don't think rear air vents are needed. Even with the lowest speed, it's cold.

That's about all there is thus far. Just done my 1,000KM Service and will update soon!

Any questions, drop ahead
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Filling up petrol to the max like that is actually causing harm to your car

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I nearly bought this car. And then I changed job and it didn't feel very stable and someone says to me: "If you lose your job in 2 years, you'll probably sell this car and still owns a bank for its low resale value."

So I went for a City. Don't get me wrong, I love the new Almera Turbo. There no full Level 2 autonomous and second hand value but is offset by its C-segment sound suppression.

Perhaps in the future I have cash to spend, I'll probably get this car.

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QUOTE(aemon @ Oct 28 2022, 02:34 AM)
I nearly bought this car. And then I changed job and it didn't feel very stable and someone says to me: "If you lose your job in 2 years, you'll probably sell this car and still owns a bank for its low resale value."

So I went for a City. Don't get me wrong, I love the new Almera Turbo. There no full Level 2 autonomous and second hand value but is offset by its C-segment sound suppression.

Perhaps in the future I have cash to spend, I'll probably get this car.
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If your loan is over 5 years, even 2 years you sell for Honda or Toyota also will loss money and need to pay back to bank.
FYI 1~3 years car at least 30% from original cost will lost once you put up the no. plate and move on the road, unless you sell it your own at a higher price tag or get it tender at online car website and see which willing buyer want to take it.

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QUOTE(aemon @ Oct 28 2022, 01:34 AM)
I nearly bought this car. And then I changed job and it didn't feel very stable and someone says to me: "If you lose your job in 2 years, you'll probably sell this car and still owns a bank for its low resale value."

So I went for a City. Don't get me wrong, I love the new Almera Turbo. There no full Level 2 autonomous and second hand value but is offset by its C-segment sound suppression.

Perhaps in the future I have cash to spend, I'll probably get this car.
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had the same thought..

almera nice car but lack of L2 autonomous is a deal breaker.

went for ativa instead sweat.gif

if only City equip with LSF and stop & go feature, might consider it
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Oct 28 2022, 08:34 AM)
If your loan is over 5 years, even 2 years you sell for Honda or Toyota also will loss money and need to pay back to bank.
FYI 1~3 years car at least 30% from original cost will lost once you put up the no. plate and move on the road, unless you sell it your own at a higher price tag or get it tender at online car website and see which willing buyer want to take it.
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True. But the lack of market pricing for second hand Almera Turbo at that time make it hard for me to ascertain. Got no choice but to take up City at that time because old car getting to 17 years and really repairing is getting really expensive.
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QUOTE(myteam94 @ Oct 28 2022, 03:51 PM)
had the same thought..

almera nice car but lack of L2 autonomous is a deal breaker.

went for ativa instead  sweat.gif

if only City equip with LSF and stop & go feature, might consider it
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LSF is what functions may i know ?
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1.0 95K ++ no way
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Filling up petrol to the max like that is actually causing harm to your car

Source: https://www.google.com/amp/s/philkotse.com/...or-bad-8833/amp
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the hose so tiny only allow air pressure summore got valve blocking until sensor detect
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QUOTE(jibpek @ Oct 28 2022, 07:59 PM)
1.0 95K ++ no way
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the 1.0 engine itself is turbo, compared to other competitors are just 1.5 N/A.
Besides that the safety features, accessories & design that Nissan offered nowadays really top of the range, so it still justified of the higher price range.
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QUOTE(keithdx @ Oct 27 2022, 01:12 PM)
Any questions, drop ahead
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How's the vibration:
* at idling?
* at speed?

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QUOTE(littlefire @ Oct 31 2022, 09:07 AM)
the 1.0 engine itself is turbo, compared to other competitors are just 1.5 N/A.
Besides that the safety features, accessories & design that Nissan offered nowadays really top of the range, so it still justified of the higher price range.
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agreed, i hate to say this but till nowadays there is still way too many people noisy regarding displacement ( cc small / big ). Current tech turbo engine is reliable enough if you properly maintain it, can last years without causing any isu related on engine.

Punchy 1.0 Turbo is much much better than 1.5 NA especially to those who only use it for short trip/town driving/grab and etc.
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This is surprising that we don't see more of this model on the road.

Looks good, handles good, adequate power, plenty of torque, very good mileage .

Great reviews from many reviewers.

Maybe a tad more pricy than other B-segments.

So, why don't we see more of this on the road?

Surely it's not just the turbo?
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QUOTE(howszat @ Mar 14 2023, 08:26 PM)

This is surprising that we don't see more of this model on the road.
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

So, why don't we see more of this on the road?

Surely it's not just the turbo?
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I believe its probably due to branding issue. And Tan Chong isnt putting hard effort in building the brand name.
Furthermore they are already making losses.
https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/tan-...n-losses-around

Secondly, at RM 83,888 , and a 1.0L turbo which gives a mere 100 horses (consumers always like to look at horsepower, even though they are not racing) and some would even look at "Eh its only 1.0L displacement" typical mindset.
The previous Almera wasn't doing that well either even with the standard 1.5NA.

Its also way more expensive than City 1.5L , which starts from Rm 77,600 (and the E spec is around the corner at RM 85,800)

And the popular Proton X50 (despite different segment) is just a shy RM 86,300 onwards, which attracts customers with the 1.5L turbo, and quite good looking dashboard interior.
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QUOTE(SleeplessEyes @ Mar 14 2023, 08:58 PM)
I believe its probably due to branding issue. And Tan Chong isnt putting hard effort in building the brand name.
Furthermore they are already making losses.
https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/tan-...n-losses-around

Secondly, at RM 83,888 , and a 1.0L turbo which gives a mere 100 horses (consumers always like to look at horsepower, even though they are not racing) and some would even look at "Eh its only 1.0L displacement" typical mindset.
The previous Almera wasn't doing that well either even with the standard 1.5NA.

Its also way more expensive than City 1.5L , which starts from Rm 77,600 (and the E spec is around the corner at RM 85,800)

And the popular Proton X50 (despite different segment) is just a shy RM 86,300 onwards, which attracts customers with the 1.5L turbo, and quite good looking dashboard interior.
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i wonder how long X50 waiting time now, sure it's at least 6month. Selling like hotcake. I like the new Almera, if compared to previous gen, it's like worm turning to butterfly.

However for that kind of price tag, i will probably go for used Optima GT/Elantra Sport(Turbo)

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QUOTE(Virlution @ Oct 27 2022, 11:08 AM)
1.0 T engine is 3 cyc engine?

I looking at car with the 2.0T engine but I think replacement is 2.4T
bigger engine but almost same hp, cipet... considering buying 2nd hand like that
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Which car has 2.4T ?
2.0T already can get nearly 250 hp, and almost 400 Nm.

QUOTE(msacras @ Oct 27 2022, 11:14 AM)
Tebu got shorter service interval
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Which car has 2.4T ?
2.0T already can get nearly 250 hp, and almost 400 Nm.
I still keep mine at 10K.
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QUOTE(howszat @ Mar 14 2023, 08:26 PM)
This is surprising that we don't see more of this model on the road.

Looks good, handles good, adequate power, plenty of torque, very good mileage .

Great reviews from many reviewers.

Maybe a tad more pricy than other B-segments.

So, why don't we see more of this on the road?

Surely it's not just the turbo?
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definitely pricy and safety goodies lost to perodua which got way lower price. so pay more for less?. thats explain few nissan almera on the road.
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new subbie la
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definitely cipet. they downtune the power. dunno why they use bigger engine but almost same output with previous gen. so stingy
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definitely cipet. they downtune the power. dunno why they use bigger engine but almost same output with previous gen. so stingy
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no la.... subbie engine very reliable if you dun simply reflash or mod...

my previous turbo car also serbis every 10k mileage... dun care duration. car not heavily use so like 1 year serbis once

warm up before tekan and warm down properly... dun starve turbo of oil especially after vroom here and there. all meme are overboost and never warm up/down properly

na brz/86 can sebis 15k... even longer duration
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QUOTE(Virlution @ Mar 15 2023, 01:46 PM)
no la.... subbie engine very reliable if you dun simply reflash or mod...

my previous turbo car also serbis every 10k mileage... dun care duration. car not heavily use so like 1 year serbis once

warm up before tekan and warm down properly... dun starve turbo of oil especially after vroom here and there. all meme are overboost and never warm up/down properly

na brz/86 can sebis 15k... even longer duration
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Required only if you have been tekan-ing... isn't it?

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definitely pricy and safety goodies lost to perodua which got way lower price. so pay more for less?. thats explain few nissan almera on the road.
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That's comparing foreign cars with local cars. It's a value-for-money comparison which is valid by itself.

But that's not what I was referring to.

A more appropriate comparison is with the Vios and City and Mazda.

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Required only if you have been tekan-ing... isn't it?
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Nope. Applies to all cars.
My standard of practice

i) Idle the engine for 30 seconds (roughly) before putting into gear - Let the lubricant circulate properly even though I know its on 0W or 5W viscosity and it should be seconds .
ii) Then start driving. Engine oil temperature takes longer to warm up compared to your water temperature.
- I have the habit of not turning on the aircond until the water temperature reaches minimum 50C ; This is so that it doesn't place extra load during cold engine, and your radiator fan will cool it down, making it warm up slower.
- For cars without Celcius or OBD, its either the Blue light goes off or 2 bars (for my Proton) which indicates around 50C has passed.

iii) Drive gently first if possible. Not asking you to drive like a granny and hog the road. GO easy on the throttle.
- Even in F1, they heat up the engine block (without engine running) first before start of the race.
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Nope. Applies to all cars.
My standard of practice

i) Idle the engine for 30 seconds (roughly) before putting into gear - Let the lubricant circulate properly even though I know its on 0W or 5W viscosity and it should be seconds .
ii) Then start driving. Engine oil temperature takes longer to warm up compared to your water temperature.
- I have the habit of not turning on the aircond until the water temperature reaches minimum 50C ; This is so that it doesn't place extra load during cold engine, and your radiator fan will cool it down, making it warm up slower.
- For cars without Celcius or OBD, its either the Blue light goes off or 2 bars (for my Proton) which indicates around 50C has passed.

iii) Drive gently first if possible. Not asking you to drive like a granny and hog the road. GO easy on the throttle.
- Even in F1, they heat up the engine block (without engine running) first before start of the race.
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I have owned a turbo car before. There are some precautions you need to take. But that was sometime ago.

Technology has improved. I don't believe what you are doing is necessary anymore.

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I have owned a turbo car before. There are some precautions you need to take. But that was sometime ago.

Technology has improved. I don't believe what you are doing is necessary anymore.
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not necessary to do such....

start car, idle few seconds when you drive off, keep the RPM low ... when you idle at below 1k rpm vs driving off at 2k-3k rpm is nothing... just dont go high rev and spool the turbo at full speed before warmed up

for warm down, usually when I turn to my street or near house, driving in shopping parking/looking for parking just chill and cruise, low RPM oil will flow and cool down. after stop, idle alnother few seconds while turning off AC/Radio is good enough.

Some people like to vroom vroom announcing to everyone they arrived, then turn off the car, this will cause the turbo to heat up and starve of oil.

Frequent oil change also good if you drive like a maniac all the time, too much heat the oil break down faster.
Most car with stock low pressure turbos, not much additional precautions required.
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QUOTE(howszat @ Mar 15 2023, 09:03 PM)
I have owned a turbo car before. There are some precautions you need to take. But that was sometime ago.

Technology has improved. I don't believe what you are doing is necessary anymore.
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Engine oil i can say improve a lot by using fully synthetic and lower viscosity for faster oil flow & protection

But regarding turbo cooling system might need to take note on that, if your turbo engine system does not got like modern continental which got additional oil or water cooler system (some use electric water pump to keep running) to cool down the turbo after it is off it is better to idle for a while like 10~15 seconds or fit a turbo timer with oil temperature or O2 sensor reading to help prolong the turbo life.

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Engine oil i can say improve a lot by using fully synthetic and lower viscosity for faster oil flow & protection

But regarding turbo cooling system might need to take note on that, if your turbo engine system does not got like modern continental which got additional oil or water cooler system (some use electric water pump to keep running) to cool down the turbo after it is off it is better to idle for a while like 10~15 seconds or fit a turbo timer with oil temperature or O2 sensor reading to help prolong the turbo life.
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QUOTE(howszat @ Mar 15 2023, 08:03 PM)
I have owned a turbo car before. There are some precautions you need to take. But that was sometime ago.

Technology has improved. I don't believe what you are doing is necessary anymore.
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Yes you are also correct ,howszat. I'm also using Full synthetic.
Its just a self-precautionary measure despite not written in the manual.

Usually I will intentionally idle the car with aircond on (depends on how long it take), to bring the shutdown temperature down to below 87C.
This is for Exora. I know other turbo cars not required due to better cooling system design (and dont have Oil Cooler Assembly)

For Exora, anything above 88C it will auto trigger the radiator fan and it takes minutes cool it down until it drops below 88C. On normal driving, it will hover between 86-88C.
Cause when engine shutdown it will rise up to 90-91C. I've monitored this through the OBD. And for Exora, it does have a separate electric water pump.

Unfortunately my usual app, is not able to read oil temperature from Exora's ECU.
@littlefire, regarding about your comment "O2 sensor reading to help prolong the turbo life"
Exora's ECU allows reading of catalytic converter temperature, but I find it useless.

Hope this explains well my precautionary measures.

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idle for a few minutes prior to turn off.


Nothing too specific from the Almera manual.
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Ts, the only not good for Nissan is Tan Choong Motor. Try follow fb group, u can see why, for most Nissan model here. And I read most ex Nissan owner not even bother to touch them again if still under TCM. Hint, warranty claim poor, and tendency to use low quality parts (localized?) for model sold here by TCM
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Mar 24 2023, 02:31 PM)
Ts, the only not good for Nissan is Tan Choong Motor. Try follow fb group, u can see why, for most Nissan model here. And I read most ex Nissan owner not even bother to touch them again if still under TCM. Hint, warranty claim poor, and tendency to use low quality parts (localized?) for model sold here by TCM
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Still like this nowadays?
No wonder my friend father went to viet branch.
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how is the almera for the rear seat passengers? Is it soft and comfortable?
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how is the almera for the rear seat passengers? Is it soft and comfortable?
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Go and try, different people might got different expectation.
For me Nissan seats are quite comfortable, more better than Honda personally.
They always market their seats as zero gravity.

https://www.nissan-global.com/EN/INNOVATION...PIRED_CAR_SEAT/

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Before I could share any more on the experience, there's already a few comments here and there.

Got the Almera in white, paint so far all good. Whether thin or not, I have no idea. But I do wash the car weekly.

I have no complains with the interior aside from the Beige wrap on the Dashboard and on the seats. Would rather have it in all black.

MY OVERALL DRIVING EXPERIENCE THUS FAR (FROM PURCHASE TO 1,000KM)

Just keep in mind that, I do not know much driving terms, just a regular person sharing so others may find it helpful.

- It's quiet. Everything is dampened quite well. For the doors, you may have to close it a little bit more harder haha. Nothing wrong with that. Quiet maybe because of the Continental UC6 that it comes with.

- If I'm not mistaken, Full Tank is about RM 65, I will fill it until I am able to see the petrol at the top of the hole. Have not gone entirely on the highway but so far it with a city highway + city, it's about 450 - 470KM per fill (my experience). The counting on the meter shows 13KM/L I think. Home to work is about 1.5KM. So not much long distance travel, all nearby and sometimes highway.

- Used the Cruise Control once, don't find it really useful unless it's Adaptive Cruise Control.

- The Side / Rear / 360 Cameras are great and pretty accurate. During my initial test drive, the Salesperson showed how accurate it was. So no complains there. I like it that when I put it in reverse and turn the steering wheel, the guides turn as well. Don't want to start any fires here but it's better than the cameras on the current Flagship X50.

- There was one time I was about to enter the Smart Tunnel and just before entering I think there was this Height Limit sign just above the road (stretched across). I was going at about 80KM/H I think and suddenly the emergency brake thingy kicked in and went off after about 1 second / half a second. Not sure why but maybe it detected a possible hit.

- I use an Android and there's no Android Auto. But it connects via Bluetooth automatically whenever I switch on the car, so that doesn't really bother me. I still prefer to use Waze on my phone. It has Apple CarPlay but it's not wireless though.

- Acceleration is alright. It does the job when I need it to. It can take curves at a pretty reasonable speed, tried it at 90KM/H+, I didn't feel much, was pretty planted and smooth. I think the seats (because it's pretty bolstered on the side) helped as well.

- The top of the Dashboard is flat so can place the Smart Tag Holder and etc easily.

- Aircond is cold. And I don't think rear air vents are needed. Even with the lowest speed, it's cold.

That's about all there is thus far. Just done my 1,000KM Service and will update soon!

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Somehow I missed this thread earlier. Looks like you may be the only owner of the Nissan Almera Turbo on this forum. We took delivery of the Almera Turbo Kuro black edition about 3 weeks ago just before Chinese New year.

May I ask if you have installed the Ultra Racing Stage 1 bars to your vehicle? Are there any other experiences you may want to share after owning the car for more than 2 years now? I got to know that TCEAS actually provides this Ultra Racing bar installation at all their service centres. Would like to know on the differences (if any) on handling of the vehicle if the UR bars are installed.

The Almera turbo is actually driven by my dad and I have not spent much time with the vehicle. Some key points of the Almera Turbo as follows:-

1. Noise insulation inside the cabin is rather good for a vehicle in this class. It's a quiet drive.
2. Acceleration power from the 1.0 litre turbo engine, no complaints. It cannot match the power of a 2.0 litre NA but the acceleration feels more powerful than most 1.5 litre NA engines. Some commented that the power is comparable to a 1.8 litre and I would tend to agree. Most 1.8 litre vehicles on the market are larger C-segment sedan and SUV such as Corolla sedan and Corolla Cross. Although they might appear more powerful on paper, in real life the acceleration feel is more or less the same as the Almera turbo due to the heavier weight. I've test driven both Corolla sedan and Corolla Cross prior to getting the Almera turbo. The acceleration power of the Corolla feels lethargic in comparison to the Ford Focus 2.0. As a matter of fact I felt the power surge of the Almera turbo to be comparable or better than the Corolla in the low to mid end speed.
3. Suspension feels soft and comfortable when going over speed bumps and undulations. Certainly tuned more toward comfort than sporty handling.
4. Steering is light and easy to drive. Steering feedback and sharpness are not as good as the Ford Focus but decent.
5. Tried bringing the car to 140 km/h on the highways and it doesn't feel too stable at higher speeds perhaps due to the undulations on the stretch along Kesas highway. It's a bit floaty at higher speeds. My benchmark is high as the Ford Focus I used to own for 10 years not only has excellent handling but also very good stability at high speeds.
6. A slight aeroplane "woo woo" sound between speeds 20 km/h to 100 km/h, not sure if from tyres or CVT. Will have it checked at the service centre during the 1,000km service.

Although the Almera turbo is considered to be quiet, the quitest and most comfortable vehicle I've driven (owned) is the Nissan Sylphy 2.0. Can't hear much engine, road and outside vehicle noise with the Sylphy. But in terms of handling the Sylphy is worse than the Almera turbo. When taking a corner, you have to do it at very low speeds or else you and all the other occupants sitting at the rear seat will be flung to one side.

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Feb 21 2024, 01:16 PM)

May I ask if you have installed the Ultra Racing Stage 1 bars to your vehicle? Are there any other experiences you may want to share after owning the car for more than 2 years now? I got to know that TCEAS actually provides this Ultra Racing bar installation at all their service centres. Would like to know on the differences (if any) on handling of the vehicle if the UR bars are installed.

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If you did not always drive in corners high-speed, the difference will not be too much. Besides that, ultra racing are mostly using mild steel which is hard if driving thru bad road condition might feel the car more jumpy. Personally i would recommend Cusco (Aluminum), light weight, softer material and does the job also but at a higher cost.
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Feb 22 2024, 03:02 PM)
If you did not always drive in corners high-speed, the difference will not be too much. Besides that, ultra racing are mostly using mild steel which is hard if driving thru bad road condition might feel the car more jumpy. Personally i would recommend Cusco (Aluminum), light weight, softer material and does the job also but at a higher cost.
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all depend thickness spec rite
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all depend thickness spec rite
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If thickness related usually that is for anti roll bar, for other bar depends on raw material, design and how many point to link it is very subjective, but ultra racing as per name is more suitable for racing purpose. A lot of my friends already move to Cusco or original tuners from car manufacturer, example like Nismo, Impul bars for normal road use cars as their products usually can struct a balance in term of driving comfort & performance.

In the past a lot of their normal road cars fitted with ultra racings bars and in the end most remove due to harsher ride and if involve in accident need even more time & money to remove & repair. Just imagine the bar still intact, but your chassis already bend. This is not good, as the bar did not help absorb the impact but transfer it to other link area. This hard material stuff if it is roll cage then no problem, but for normal bars that is not a good idea.
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Feb 23 2024, 09:15 AM)
If thickness related usually that is for anti roll bar, for other bar depends on raw material, design and how many point to link it is very subjective, but ultra racing as per name is more suitable for racing purpose. A lot of my friends already move to Cusco or original tuners from car manufacturer, example like Nismo, Impul bars for normal road use cars as their products usually can struct a balance in term of driving comfort & performance.

In the past a lot of their normal road cars fitted with ultra racings bars and in the end most remove due to harsher ride and if involve in accident need even more time & money to remove & repair. Just imagine the bar still intact, but your chassis already bend. This is not good, as the bar did not help absorb the impact but transfer it to other link area. This hard material stuff if it is roll cage then no problem, but for normal bars that is not a good idea.
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that y UR make packages in stage1, stage 2.5 whatever
similar to other brand around local markets. zerone & super circuit so on
make owner feels cool. no harm no big effect.

just like chinese herbal tea. drink more feel cold. less cough cure sore throat.
when drinking plain water get the same effect. hahaha ^^
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plain water ice kosong 50sen/ rm1 maybe
herbal tea price at least triple of it.

also higher status compare to other table who dont order drinks at all (usually me) laugh.gif

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how is the almera for the rear seat passengers? Is it soft and comfortable?
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you need to try by yourself , i've tried before on a friend of mine almera 1.0 turbo , for me comfortable and just nice wink.gif
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how is the highway drive feel for this car?
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If around 110km/h and below, no issue. Just tried up to 140km/h along Kesas highway between Klang and PJ and it doesn't feel too stable and a little floaty, so I brought the speed back down to 100km/h. The stretch of highway along Kesas near Shah Alam is not even and undulating but still that is no excuse for the floaty feeling of the vehicle. Due to the light weight of the vehicle, it's not very stable at high speeds up to say 130 or 140km/h but if around 110km/h it should be fine.

For city driving it's quite perfect due to the light steering(easy to manoeuvre) and low petrol consumption. For highways, no issue at legal speed limits but floaty feeling at higher speeds.

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If around 110km/h and below, no issue. Just tried up to 140km/h along Kesas highway between Klang and PJ and it doesn't feel too stable and a little floaty, so I brought the speed back down to 100km/h. The stretch of highway along Kesas near Shah Alam is not even and undulating but still that is no excuse for the floaty feeling of the vehicle. Due to the light weight of the vehicle, it's not very stable at high speeds up to say 130 or 140km/h but if around 110km/h it should be fine.

For city driving it's quite perfect due to the light steering(easy to manoeuvre) and low petrol consumption. For highways, no issue at legal speed limits but floaty feeling at higher speeds.
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Reasons to the floating feels probably due to the tyres pressure because it use hard compound UHP the pressure should be 210 not recommend as standard 230, it will much much better grip if you change to soft compound tyre like vios city using
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QUOTE(hotmilk001 @ Apr 7 2024, 09:08 AM)
Reasons to the floating feels probably due to the tyres pressure because it use hard compound UHP the pressure should be 210 not recommend as standard 230, it will much much better grip if you change to soft compound tyre like vios city using
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Japanese car is generally are more floaty at high speed compared to conti cars. I even felt floaty on my CRV at 140kph.

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QUOTE(hotmilk001 @ Apr 7 2024, 04:08 PM)
Reasons to the floating feels probably due to the tyres pressure because it use hard compound UHP the pressure should be 210 not recommend as standard 230, it will much much better grip if you change to soft compound tyre like vios city using
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Higher tyre pressure might be a possible cause of the floating effect when driving at higher speeds. I didn't check the tyre pressure and didn't have the opportunity to drive the vehicle above 100km/h for the past few months as it's mostly driven around town.

There's one annoying aspect of the Nissan Almera I didn't bring up earlier. It's the humming sound from the Continental UC6 tyres when the vehicle is driven between speeds 20 km/h top 100 km/h. This humming sound from the tyres appears to affect all Nissan Almera as the Continental tyre outlet I visited notified that many Almera owners brought their cars to their outlet to complain on the humming sound like I did.

I need to select a silent tyre when the UC6 tyres are worn and due for replacement, perhaps in another 4 to 5 years. It's a pity that the standard UC6 tyres show the humming sound on the Nissan Almera.
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QUOTE(touristking @ Apr 7 2024, 04:21 PM)
Japanese car is generally are more floaty at high speed compared to conti cars. I even felt floaty on my CRV at 140kph.
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I used to own the Nissan Sylphy 2.0. It's not only floaty but body roll is very high with this one and the speeds have to be very low when doing a 90 degrees cornering otherwise there's the feeling the vehicle is going to turn turtle. No joke. The Almera's handling is much improved to the old Sylphy and it's just the floating effect which is still present.

The soundproofing of the Almera is not as good as the Sylphy though.
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QUOTE(hotmilk001 @ Apr 7 2024, 04:08 PM)
Reasons to the floating feels probably due to the tyres pressure because it use hard compound UHP the pressure should be 210 not recommend as standard 230, it will much much better grip if you change to soft compound tyre like vios city using
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it just a city driven car model, yes they designed it to be soft suspension set up like Vios also. Comfort at city drive, but more body rolls at high speed. Never driven this Almera Turbo yet, but used to drove previous gen Almera, that one body rolls to the max. Even big lorry passing the car, it auto getting body rolls a bit

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Japanese car is generally are more floaty at high speed compared to conti cars. I even felt floaty on my CRV at 140kph.
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not entirely correct. I have both conti and jap cars. My FC civic is really not bad on highways. Can speed more than 140kmh without any fuss and 'floaty' feeling. Its almost comparable to my G30 Bimmer.

For your case is more of a SUV which is on a high center of gravity. Hence, you should not be speeding more than 140kmh.

Heck, I used to owned an Alphard/Vellfire before and I can really say that its stable at 120kmh max. More than that, it's pretty risky. I seriously see SOOOOOOO MANY Alphard/Vellfire that speeds more than 140kmh on highways. They either have balls of steel or just want to stoke their BIG EGOs!

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QUOTE(IamAHuman @ Apr 8 2024, 04:02 AM)
not entirely correct. I have both conti and jap cars. My FC civic is really not bad on highways. Can speed more than 140kmh without any fuss and 'floaty' feeling. Its almost comparable to my G30 Bimmer.

For your case is more of a SUV which is on a high center of gravity. Hence, you should not be speeding more than 140kmh.

Heck, I used to owned an Alphard/Vellfire before and I can really say that its stable at 120kmh max. More than that, it's pretty risky. I seriously see SOOOOOOO MANY Alphard/Vellfire that speeds more than 140kmh on highways. They either have balls of steel or just want to stoke their BIG EGOs!

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It's been a while since I last checked this forum.

The car has now clocked 14K+ KM and so far so good with no issues (yet). I always go for fully synthetic.

Seats are comfy but I must say that the back seats of the old Almera is more spacious than the current Turbo.

The car does the job and it's also quite a good looking vehicle. If you have not gotten the Tomei Kit, I think you guys should. I've seen some without and the car feels a bit naked. But then again with the kit - your car is lower and high chance will get scratched / cracked - similar issue to the older Almera. Have to weigh the pros and cons.

No yellowing on the seats / dashboard so far (since it has white). But maybe this is too early to say? I try my best to avoid touching the dashboard as well.

I keep my front lights on auto and the sensor is pretty accurate / fast.

But just a few things,

- I opted for the white paint on the vehicle. Is it just me or does it just get tiny marks so easily? It's not scratches but marks. Every once in a while I got to wipe it off. I'm not sure if it's a white car thing or the quality of the paint.

- The 360 Camera. It feels like just above 10KM/H then the camera goes off. I've driven the X50 as well and the 360 Camera remains on till about 30KM/H which is more preferable. It's more for navigating through tight spaces / spiral parking lots. Will raise this up to Nissan (Seksyen 13, PJ) and see what they can do about it. I'm sure it just needs a software tweak. Hopefully can be done.

- I'm not sure if it's just my car but I always feel that it's pretty difficult to move the gear from P to D / and etc. Just requires a lot of strength to move the gear (yes I do press the button to switch).



Want to also check, before warranty is up, can I get whatever under warranty changed? (I.E. Gearbox / etc). Just want to be on the safer end with a new one halfway through than to have issues slightly after with the existing. Can it be done? Got lubang? Looking to just take advantage of the matter but not sure how.
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Feb 21 2024, 12:16 PM)
Somehow I missed this thread earlier. Looks like you may be the only owner of the Nissan Almera Turbo on this forum. We took delivery of the Almera Turbo Kuro black edition about 3 weeks ago just before Chinese New year.

May I ask if you have installed the Ultra Racing Stage 1 bars to your vehicle? Are there any other experiences you may want to share after owning the car for more than 2 years now? I got to know that TCEAS actually provides this Ultra Racing bar installation at all their service centres. Would like to know on the differences (if any) on handling of the vehicle if the UR bars are installed.

The Almera turbo is actually driven by my dad and I have not spent much time with the vehicle. Some key points of the Almera Turbo as follows:-

1. Noise insulation inside the cabin is rather good for a vehicle in this class. It's a quiet drive.
2. Acceleration power from the 1.0 litre turbo engine, no complaints. It cannot match the power of a 2.0 litre NA but the acceleration feels more powerful than most 1.5 litre NA engines. Some commented that the power is comparable to a 1.8 litre and I would tend to agree. Most 1.8 litre vehicles on the market are larger C-segment sedan and SUV such as Corolla sedan and Corolla Cross. Although they might appear more powerful on paper, in real life the acceleration feel is more or less the same as the Almera turbo due to the heavier weight. I've test driven both Corolla sedan and Corolla Cross prior to getting the Almera turbo. The acceleration power of the Corolla feels lethargic in comparison to the Ford Focus 2.0. As a matter of fact I felt the power surge of the Almera turbo to be comparable or better than the Corolla in the low to mid end speed.
3. Suspension feels soft and comfortable when going over speed bumps and undulations. Certainly tuned more toward comfort than sporty handling.
4. Steering is light and easy to drive. Steering feedback and sharpness are not as good as the Ford Focus but decent. 
5. Tried bringing the car to 140 km/h on the highways and it doesn't feel too stable at higher speeds perhaps due to the undulations on the stretch along Kesas highway. It's a bit floaty at higher speeds. My benchmark is high as the Ford Focus I used to own for 10 years not only has excellent handling but also very good stability at high speeds.
6. A slight aeroplane "woo woo" sound between speeds 20 km/h to 100 km/h, not sure if from tyres or CVT. Will have it checked at the service centre during the 1,000km service.

Although the Almera turbo is considered to be quiet, the quitest and most comfortable vehicle I've driven (owned) is the Nissan Sylphy 2.0. Can't hear much engine, road and outside vehicle noise with the Sylphy. But in terms of handling the Sylphy is worse than the Almera turbo. When taking a corner, you have to do it at very low speeds or else you and all the other occupants sitting at the rear seat will be flung to one side.
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For point 6, did you get it checked? Any feedback from Nissan TCM? I don't seem to have this issue actually or maybe I'm just not aware of it (tend to play loud music).
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It's been a while since I last checked this forum.

The car has now clocked 14K+ KM and so far so good with no issues (yet). I always go for fully synthetic.

Seats are comfy but I must say that the back seats of the old Almera is more spacious than the current Turbo.

The car does the job and it's also quite a good looking vehicle. If you have not gotten the Tomei Kit, I think you guys should. I've seen some without and the car feels a bit naked. But then again with the kit - your car is lower and high chance will get scratched / cracked - similar issue to the older Almera. Have to weigh the pros and cons.

No yellowing on the seats / dashboard so far (since it has white). But maybe this is too early to say? I try my best to avoid touching the dashboard as well.

I keep my front lights on auto and the sensor is pretty accurate / fast.

But just a few things,

- I opted for the white paint on the vehicle. Is it just me or does it just get tiny marks so easily? It's not scratches but marks. Every once in a while I got to wipe it off. I'm not sure if it's a white car thing or the quality of the paint.

- The 360 Camera. It feels like just above 10KM/H then the camera goes off. I've driven the X50 as well and the 360 Camera remains on till about 30KM/H which is more preferable. It's more for navigating through tight spaces / spiral parking lots. Will raise this up to Nissan (Seksyen 13, PJ) and see what they can do about it. I'm sure it just needs a software tweak. Hopefully can be done.

- I'm not sure if it's just my car but I always feel that it's pretty difficult to move the gear from P to D / and etc. Just requires a lot of strength to move the gear (yes I do press the button to switch).
Want to also check, before warranty is up, can I get whatever under warranty changed? (I.E. Gearbox / etc). Just want to be on the safer end with a new one halfway through than to have issues slightly after with the existing. Can it be done? Got lubang? Looking to just take advantage of the matter but not sure how.
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Hello hello. Fellow N18-generation Almera VLT owner here. I've been keeping an eye on this thread before I got mine last year. I opted out of the Tomei bodykit even though it was offered free at the time because I actually prefer how it looks without (still has the stock black bootlid spoiler though). Feels like a bit of a dead weight to me tbh.

I'm not sure if it's even a white car thing or a paint quality thing - could just be the environments you're driving through. I have mine in Monarch Orange and it picks up stuff too depending on the weather and dirt in the environment.

I'm curious about the 360 camera's speed limit too. I've never had to use it past certain speeds where it cuts off but let me know if all it takes is a software tweak.

Haven't felt any issues with shifting from P to D, etc. If this hasn't always been the case for you, you might wanna get it checked.

As for getting stuff changed within the warranty period, I think they'll only entertain your requests if they officially diagnose a problem, so there's that.

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QUOTE(keithdx @ May 20 2024, 06:10 PM)
For point 6, did you get it checked? Any feedback from Nissan TCM? I don't seem to have this issue actually or maybe I'm just not aware of it (tend to play loud music).
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Yes. Brought the car to service centre twice to have it checked and also at Continental tyre shop to have it checked and a report provided by Continental from the tests done to the tyres. The tests carried out at the Continental tyre outlet is arranged by Nissan's service centre.

To cut a long story short, the UC6 tyres do not show any defect and the sound from the tyres is said to be normal. I have sensitive ears so it's easy to pick up the sound. All Almera cars with UC6 should show this sound as the test drive car at the service centre also showed the exact same humming sound from the tyres after I tested it. Try listening to any humming sound without the music switched on. The sound will come up louder if the road surface is poor. It's very prominent and loud woo woo sound if the tyres are moving on old road surface which are worn out

I hope the sound will be gone with a change to a different brand of tyre but it will take some time for the tyres to get worn.
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Finally, Carsifu released an article on the Nissan Almera Turbo GT Package.



https://www.carsifu.my/car-reviews/nissan-a...ckage-dark-draw

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Also, just revealed, Nissan Kicks will be coming soon for those who are interested. I'm just waiting for this, hope they price it below market price. biggrin.gif

https://www.carsifu.my/news/edaran-tan-chon...of-local-launch

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QUOTE(hotmilk001 @ Apr 7 2024, 05:08 PM)
Reasons to the floating feels probably due to the tyres pressure because it use hard compound UHP the pressure should be 210 not recommend as standard 230, it will much much better grip if you change to soft compound tyre like vios city using
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Original tires is Conti UC6 right? Those are not UHP tires.

https://www.tyrereviews.com/Tyre/Continental/

UC6 is under Premium Touring category.
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QUOTE(IamAHuman @ Apr 8 2024, 12:02 PM)
not entirely correct. I have both conti and jap cars. My FC civic is really not bad on highways. Can speed more than 140kmh without any fuss and 'floaty' feeling. Its almost comparable to my G30 Bimmer.

For your case is more of a SUV which is on a high center of gravity. Hence, you should not be speeding more than 140kmh.

Heck, I used to owned an Alphard/Vellfire before and I can really say that its stable at 120kmh max. More than that, it's pretty risky. I seriously see SOOOOOOO MANY Alphard/Vellfire that speeds more than 140kmh on highways. They either have balls of steel or just want to stoke their BIG EGOs!

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Yes, not all Japs will feel floaty. My household Subaru Xv & Forester both felt very stable even with 140km/h highway speed. Different car manufacturer has their way, for Subaru i believe the boxer engine wider lower gravity helps to stabilize the car and also suspension tuning which is more towards firm for better high speed stability & cornering.
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QUOTE(_Zephyre_ @ May 20 2024, 06:17 PM)
Hello hello. Fellow N18-generation Almera VLT owner here. I've been keeping an eye on this thread before I got mine last year. I opted out of the Tomei bodykit even though it was offered free at the time because I actually prefer how it looks without (still has the stock black bootlid spoiler though). Feels like a bit of a dead weight to me tbh.

I'm not sure if it's even a white car thing or a paint quality thing - could just be the environments you're driving through. I have mine in Monarch Orange and it picks up stuff too depending on the weather and dirt in the environment.

I'm curious about the 360 camera's speed limit too. I've never had to use it past certain speeds where it cuts off but let me know if all it takes is a software tweak.

Haven't felt any issues with shifting from P to D, etc. If this hasn't always been the case for you, you might wanna get it checked.

As for getting stuff changed within the warranty period, I think they'll only entertain your requests if they officially diagnose a problem, so there's that.
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How's you'd FC km/l?
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QUOTE(littlefire @ May 22 2024, 03:16 PM)
Original tires is Conti UC6 right? Those are not UHP tires.

https://www.tyrereviews.com/Tyre/Continental/

UC6 is under Premium Touring category.
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past user of this UC6 tyre but 19" sizes, use it for 50k km 3 years, from new life can summarize this tyre just poor on wet, like those cheap, non-branded tyre. Dry so-so. Pro of this tire are the quietness.
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How's you'd FC km/l?
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Probably around 12-15 km/l, but I spend 90% of my time in urban traffic.
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Feb 27 2024, 01:08 PM)
If around 110km/h and below, no issue. Just tried up to 140km/h along Kesas highway between Klang and PJ and it doesn't feel too stable and a little floaty, so I brought the speed back down to 100km/h. The stretch of highway along Kesas near Shah Alam is not even and undulating but still that is no excuse for the floaty feeling of the vehicle. Due to the light weight of the vehicle, it's not very stable at high speeds up to say 130 or 140km/h but if around 110km/h it should be fine.

For city driving it's quite perfect due to the light steering(easy to manoeuvre) and low petrol consumption. For highways, no issue at legal speed limits but floaty feeling at higher speeds.
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This Abam drive 190 kmh looks OK only.


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QUOTE(lordgamer3 @ May 29 2024, 10:41 PM)
This Abam drive 190 kmh looks OK only.


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It looks OK but in reality the car is really struggling at that speed. I've not driven the car past 140km/h as it is mostly used for city driving.

This Almera has a small 1.0-litre turbocharged engine and the nature of this design is to save fuel. With hard acceleration or driving at high speed, the engine emits a loud and weird sound as the roar of the engine is different from naturally aspirated engine, and it's not a pleasant sound. It's a loud and unpleasant high pitch tin can sound from the small turbo engine if you drive the car aggressively. The sound from the engine gives you a feeling that you are abusing it if the driver does hard acceleration or hitting close to top speed. It's the opposite experience with a powerful 2.0 litre NA engine where the normal robust roar of the engine gives you a feeling of assurance that the vehicle is doing fine even if you push it hard.

FWIW I don't feel confident driving the Almera turbo at high speed even at 140km/h due to the soft floaty suspension, and would be less inclined to abuse the car by driving at higher speeds due to the small capacity turbo engine. The nature or advantage of this vehicle is good fuel economy at low city speeds driving and a smooth, comfortable and quiet drive. I actually feel much safer doing 200+ km/h in the Ford Focus than 140km/h in the Almera. The Ford is not only much more powerful but a stable car when driven at high speeds. Well, that's another story. Horses for courses. Most people usually buy Nissan for smooth, comfortable and quiet drive. If you want speed and power then there are better choices, in my experience.

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ May 30 2024, 08:06 PM)
It looks OK but in reality the car is really struggling at that speed. I've not driven the car past 140km/h as it is mostly used for city driving.

This Almera has a small 1.0-litre turbocharged engine and the nature of this design is to save fuel. With hard acceleration or driving at high speed, the engine emits a loud and weird sound as the roar of the engine is different from naturally aspirated engine, and it's not a pleasant sound. It's a loud and unpleasant high pitch tin can sound from the small turbo engine if you drive the car aggressively. The sound from the engine gives you a feeling that you are abusing it if the driver does hard acceleration or hitting close to top speed. It's the opposite experience with a powerful 2.0 litre NA engine where the normal robust roar of the engine gives you a feeling of assurance that the vehicle is doing fine even if you push it hard.

FWIW I don't feel confident driving the Almera turbo at high speed even at 140km/h due to the soft floaty suspension, and would be less inclined to abuse the car by driving at higher speeds due to the small capacity turbo engine. The nature or advantage of this vehicle is good fuel economy at low city speeds driving and a smooth, comfortable and quiet drive. I actually feel much safer doing 200+ km/h in the Ford Focus than 140km/h in the Almera. The Ford is not only much more powerful but a stable car when driven at high speeds. Well, that's another story. Horses for courses. Most people usually buy Nissan for smooth, comfortable and quiet drive. If you want speed and power then there are better choices, in my experience.
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I've brought it at sufficiently high speeds and I feel its alright as had a C and D segment prior. Ofc one can argue that its not a fair comparison but thing is the Almera can't corner as well but unless there is stray winds I feel its relatively stable. My qualm though is for anyone taller then 6 feet the almera I feel though the seats are decent and sufficient leg room I repeat sufficient, if you are a tall guy putting your leg at the footrest you can feel the steering joint very close to your feet.

But at 120kmh 2k rpm the engine is quite quiet. Not sure how you drive but this car I am very easy on the throttle and let the torque build speed and try level best to keep rpm low.
As for sound My personal view it sounds nice from the cabin if you were to compare the S70,X50 or Ativa I feel this has the most refined 3 cylinder.
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QUOTE(lordgamer3 @ May 30 2024, 08:52 PM)
I've brought it at sufficiently high speeds and I feel its alright as had a C and D segment prior. Ofc one can argue that its not a fair comparison but thing is the Almera can't corner as well but unless there is stray winds I feel its relatively stable. My qualm though is for anyone taller then 6 feet the almera I feel though the  seats are decent and sufficient leg room I repeat sufficient,  if you are a tall guy putting your leg at the footrest you can feel the steering joint very close to your feet.

But at 120kmh 2k rpm the engine is quite quiet. Not sure how you drive but this car I am very easy on the throttle and let the torque build speed and try level best to keep rpm low.
As for sound My personal view it sounds nice from the cabin if you were to compare the S70,X50 or Ativa I feel this has the most refined 3 cylinder.
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Right, in terms of stability at high speeds, as I mentioned earlier the fastest I've traveled so far, only once is hitting 140km/h along Kesas highway between PJ and Klang. Along one stretch of the highway it's very undulating and it's where the car lost its composure. Perhaps on good levelled highways the car is stable at higher speeds. However, in direct comparison to the Ford Focus the stability of the car is down two or three notches. The Focus kept its composure very well even though the roads are undulating and not even. Somehow the suspension or chassis is able to contribute to the overall stability of the vehicle when travelling at high speeds even on undulating and uneven roads. The same cannot be said with the Almera as the feeling of the vehicle losing control is prevalent when travelling at high speeds on uneven roads. The wobble or sway of the vehicle from left to right is significantly higher.

As for the loud and annoying tin can roaring sound from the turbo engine, I was referring to pedal to the metal whenever one does hard acceleration. With slow build up of speed ie half pedal to metal, the sound from the engine is still acceptable and not too loud. When travelling close to top speed, one would need to pedal to the metal or you won't get close to the desired speed, so you will get this loud and weird sound from the turbo engine. The message I'm trying to convey from the aforementioned points is it's not advisable to drive the car aggressively by doing pedal to the metal at any given speed ie.when cruising at 60km/h you suddenly wish to quickly burst to 100km/h, or driving close to top speed as shown in the video above since this will put a lot of stress to the small capacity engine, coupled by the loud and weird high pitch tin can sound from the turbo engine. The Almera is not suitable to be driven aggressively anyway as in attacking corners and bends at higher speeds due to the loose steering which does not have much feel. It's more for slow, comfort, quiet and sedate driving, and in this area the Almera excels.

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As for sound My personal view it sounds nice from the cabin if you were to compare the S70,X50 or Ativa I feel this has the most refined 3 cylinder.
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Good to know. It's the small little things that count. Sometimes people just focus on specs such as power, features etc. but there is no "spec" that describes on noise levels or refinement as in vibration from the engine. Yes, to me the level of quietness in the absence of noise in the cabin and vibration from the engine, it's quite good for a vehicle in its class, the Almera.

I hope the refinement and quietness of the upcoming Nissan Kicks will be one or two notches higher than this Almera.

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Right, in terms of stability at high speeds, as I mentioned earlier the fastest I've traveled so far, only once is hitting 140km/h along Kesas highway between PJ and Klang. Along one stretch of the highway it's very undulating and it's where the car lost its composure. Perhaps on good levelled highways the car is stable at higher speeds. However, in direct comparison to the Ford Focus the stability of the car is down two or three notches. The Focus kept its composure very well even though the roads are undulating and not even. Somehow the suspension or chassis is able to contribute to the overall stability of the vehicle when travelling at high speeds even on undulating and uneven roads. The same cannot be said with the Almera as the feeling of the vehicle losing control is prevalent when travelling at high speeds on uneven roads. The wobble or sway of the vehicle from left to right is significantly higher.

As for the loud and annoying tin can roaring sound from the turbo engine, I was referring to pedal to the metal whenever one does hard acceleration. With slow build up of speed ie half pedal to metal, the sound from the engine is still acceptable and not too loud. When travelling close to top speed, one would need to pedal to the metal or you won't get close to the desired speed, so you will get this loud and weird sound from the turbo engine. The message I'm trying to convey from the aforementioned points is it's not advisable to drive the car aggressively by doing pedal to the metal at any given speed ie.when cruising at 60km/h you suddenly wish to quickly burst to 100km/h, or driving close to top speed as shown in the video above since this will put a lot of stress to the small capacity engine, coupled by the loud and weird high pitch tin can sound from the turbo engine. The Almera is not suitable to be driven aggressively anyway as in attacking corners and bends at higher speeds due to the loose steering which does not have much feel. It's more for slow, comfort, quiet and sedate driving, and in this area the Almera excels.
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Yep agreed the Almera is more for sedate driving and some overtaking but at 190kmh I think the GB won't be able to sustain those high speeds for a long time as I feel two factors at play here. It uses 0w-20 hence at speeds of 190 kmh the engine oil will wear faster as 0w-20 is more for fuel efficiency hence the oil will prematurely wear faster. Next would be the GB these CVT's are notorious for premature wear hence driving at high speeds will require more frequent GB oil change. That said for a compact car it's certainly the best in its class. Mercedes uses a 4 cylinder 1.3 derivatives for its lower A and C models which speak volumes of this engines potential.

However this 3 cylinder variant is not for kaki racing. It was never meant for racing and never will be suitable but that said for day to day overtaking or get go from traffic lights especially if you live in KL this is a lovely little car.

However with regards to corners is something I feel a little subjective, it is able to take corners precisely but I feel your issue with it taking corners is primarily due to tail winds not this cars outright ability as it is susceptible to wind direction like a smaller car . The cornering though say if you take at speeds of 80kmh is rather neat and not like a shopping trolley like some.B segments.

Tan Chong I think offers some racing bars and stuff have you considered putting those? Heard it improves the cornering significantly but the ride and weight will be compromised.

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QUOTE(lordgamer3 @ May 31 2024, 08:26 AM)
Yep agreed the Almera is more for sedate driving and some overtaking but at 190kmh I think the GB won't be able to sustain those high speeds for a long time as I feel two factors at play here. It uses 0w-20 hence at speeds of 190 kmh the engine oil will wear faster as 0w-20 is more for fuel efficiency hence the oil will prematurely wear faster. Next would be the GB these CVT's are notorious for premature wear hence driving at high speeds will require more frequent GB oil change. That said for a compact car it's certainly the best in its class. Mercedes uses a 4 cylinder 1.3 derivatives for its lower A and C models which speak volumes of this engines potential.

However this 3 cylinder variant is not for kaki racing. It was never meant for racing and never will be suitable but that said for day to day overtaking or get go from traffic lights especially if you live in KL this is a lovely little car.

However with regards to corners is something I feel a little subjective, it is able to take corners precisely but I feel your issue with it taking corners is primarily due to tail winds not this cars outright ability as it is susceptible to wind direction like a smaller car . The cornering though say if you take at speeds of 80kmh is rather neat and not like a shopping trolley like some.B  segments.

Tan Chong I think offers some racing bars and stuff have you considered putting those? Heard it improves the cornering significantly but the ride and weight will be compromised.
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sorry kinda disagree for 0w20 engine oil wear out faster etc, if u read thru the other section of Engine Oil Reviews/Technical talk, with engine oil analysis, the 0w20 provides great protection for the engine. why 0w20 or 0w16 nowadays are purely for better fuel economy but same time they provide great protection from fully synthetic-based oil. Only old man workshop keep pushing customer to use 5w40 cz out hot weather etc. Summary, use manufacturer recommended viscosity.

3 cylinder vs 4 cylinder, again due to fuel economy reason.
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sorry kinda disagree for 0w20 engine oil wear out faster etc, if u read thru the other section of Engine Oil Reviews/Technical talk, with engine oil analysis, the 0w20 provides great protection for the engine. why 0w20 or 0w16 nowadays are purely for better fuel economy but same time they provide great protection from fully synthetic-based oil. Only old man workshop keep pushing customer to use 5w40 cz out hot weather etc. Summary, use manufacturer recommended viscosity.

3 cylinder vs 4 cylinder, again due to fuel economy reason.
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0w 20 cannot take prolonged heat at high speeds, you see there is a reason why you see German cars use 0w 40 as at higher speeds the oil will be able to sustain the higher temp unlike 0w 20. The nissans cylinder wall is 0.2 mm through some diamond and mold coating similar to the GTR hence would only make sense that they use 20. However 20 is not meant for very high temp for prolonged period hence why it would wear faster. Else why do you see the service intervals significantly lower then turbo Germans?

The mirror bore coating i quote from Nissan

The process involves spraying and polishing the cylindrical space inside the engine in which the piston moves. During the spraying phase, sparks fly as charged metal wire is blown using gas to atomize the material and coat the inside of the cylinders.

In the second stage, a special drill bit is used containing tiny bits of diamonds that were unfit for jewelry. The bit is spun at high speed inside the cylinder to polish the metal until shiny and smooth – giving the process its "mirror bore" name and the cylinder walls a reflective surface.

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QUOTE(lordgamer3 @ May 31 2024, 09:01 AM)
0w 20 cannot take prolonged heat at high speeds, you see there is a reason why you see German cars use 0w 40 as at higher speeds the oil will be able to sustain the higher temp unlike 0w 20.  The nissans cylinder wall is 0.2 mm through some diamond and mold coating similar to the GTR hence would only make sense that they use 20. However 20 is not meant for very high temp for prolonged period hence why it would wear faster. Else why do you see the service intervals significantly lower then turbo Germans?
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What is the service interval anyway? For my Porsches and the Merc, it’s once a year… what’s it for the Japanese makes?
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What is the service interval anyway? For my Porsches and the Merc, it’s once a year… what’s it for the Japanese makes?
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7.5k mileage 6 months for the Almera. Other makes is 10k mileage.

But interesting point to note is most professional mechanics say that mileage interval from manufacture is stretched and optimal normally is 60-70 pc of the recommended interval. This holds true cause like a certain German make sayGB oil is lifetime but ZF say every 80k km.



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QUOTE(lordgamer3 @ May 31 2024, 09:09 AM)
7.5k mileage 6 months for the Almera. Other makes is 10k mileage.

But interesting point to note is most professional mechanics say that mileage interval from manufacture is stretched and optimal normally is 60-70 pc of the recommended interval. This holds true cause like a certain German make sayGB oil is lifetime but ZF say every 80k km.


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Thanks bro. My cars are all 10k or a year … which was very different from the early cars that I used to drive. Back then it was something like 5k or 6 months for my first Honda City!
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Thanks bro. My cars are all 10k or a year … which was very different from the early cars that I used to drive. Back then it was something like 5k or 6 months for my first Honda City!
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Think mileage 10k is fine bur personally I'd change every 6 months la instead of following 1 year cause oil is cheap but those bearings and internals on those beemers are costly.
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QUOTE(lordgamer3 @ May 31 2024, 09:01 AM)
0w 20 cannot take prolonged heat at high speeds, you see there is a reason why you see German cars use 0w 40 as at higher speeds the oil will be able to sustain the higher temp unlike 0w 20.  The nissans cylinder wall is 0.2 mm through some diamond and mold coating similar to the GTR hence would only make sense that they use 20. However 20 is not meant for very high temp for prolonged period hence why it would wear faster. Else why do you see the service intervals significantly lower then turbo Germans?
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as mentioned, there are few oil analysis sample for 0w20 on the thread mentioned, no issue for engine concern, let alone heat at high speed. GT86 with 0w20 no issue for the engine wearing etc. Again follow car manufacturer's engine oil viscosity.
btw the same engine 1.0T use 10k km service interval while TCM use shorter interval for profit?

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ May 31 2024, 09:46 AM)
as mentioned, there are few oil analysis sample for 0w20 on the thread mentioned, no issue for engine concern, let alone heat at high speed. GT86 with 0w20 no issue for the engine wearing etc. Again follow car manufacturer's engine oil viscosity.
btw the same engine 1.0T use 10k km service interval while TCM use shorter interval for profit?
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https://images.app.goo.gl/u4eMoh6n1q59gVw89

For day to day use it is fine and you cant change 0w 20 to 40 because 40 is too heavy for modern engines and may potentially damage engines made for lighter weight oil but can clearly see how 40 doesn't break down as much at higher temp vs 20.

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Yep agreed the Almera is more for sedate driving and some overtaking but at 190kmh I think the GB won't be able to sustain those high speeds for a long time as I feel two factors at play here. It uses 0w-20 hence at speeds of 190 kmh the engine oil will wear faster as 0w-20 is more for fuel efficiency hence the oil will prematurely wear faster. Next would be the GB these CVT's are notorious for premature wear hence driving at high speeds will require more frequent GB oil change. That said for a compact car it's certainly the best in its class. Mercedes uses a 4 cylinder 1.3 derivatives for its lower A and C models which speak volumes of this engines potential.

However this 3 cylinder variant is not for kaki racing. It was never meant for racing and never will be suitable but that said for day to day overtaking or get go from traffic lights especially if you live in KL this is a lovely little car.

However with regards to corners is something I feel a little subjective, it is able to take corners precisely but I feel your issue with it taking corners is primarily due to tail winds not this cars outright ability as it is susceptible to wind direction like a smaller car . The cornering though say if you take at speeds of 80kmh is rather neat and not like a shopping trolley like some.B  segments.

Tan Chong I think offers some racing bars and stuff have you considered putting those? Heard it improves the cornering significantly but the ride and weight will be compromised.
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Yes agreed. This Almera is very good for KL city driving. We haven't brought it to outstation highway trip yet but believe it would be equally satisfactory when traveling within the speed limit or slightly above.

As for cornering capabilities, I haven't really driven the car like I used to on my (currently sold) Ford Focus since the Almera is mainly driven by my dad. However, it's decently capable mainly due to suspension. IT's just the steering feel which lacks feedback, accuracy and sharpness for spirited drives but in normal driving there are no complaints. In other words the steering of the Almera feels a bit loose.

Yes, I did look at the Ultra Racing bars before as Nissan's service centre actually provide installation of these Ultra racing bars Stage 1 and 2. However, I didn't proceed with it as I felt that the Almera is fine as it is and for the fact that we are all satisfied by the way it handles, as a family-orientated comfort sedan. I don't drive the way I used to drive (on the Ford Focus) as it's now mostly slow and sedate driving. Nowadays the criteria is more to slow and comfort driving than fast and furious racing on the race tracks.
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Yes agreed. This Almera is very good for KL city driving. We haven't brought it to outstation highway trip yet but believe it would be equally satisfactory when traveling within the speed limit or slightly above.

As for cornering capabilities, I haven't really driven the car like I used to on my (currently sold) Ford Focus since the Almera is mainly driven by my dad. However, it's decently capable mainly due to suspension. IT's just the steering feel which lacks feedback, accuracy and sharpness for spirited drives but in normal driving there are no complaints. In other words the steering of the Almera feels a bit loose.

Yes, I did look at the Ultra Racing bars before as Nissan's service centre actually provide installation of these Ultra racing bars Stage 1 and 2. However, I didn't proceed with it as I felt that the Almera is fine as it is and for the fact that we are all satisfied by the way it handles, as a family-orientated comfort sedan. I don't drive the way I used to drive (on the Ford Focus) as it's now mostly slow and sedate driving. Nowadays the criteria is more to slow and comfort driving than fast and furious racing on the race tracks.
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Yes certainly agree the feedback is ok but a bit vague unlike older Protons or Continental cars. Btw nice ride 👌

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QUOTE(lordgamer3 @ May 31 2024, 08:26 AM)
Yep agreed the Almera is more for sedate driving and some overtaking but at 190kmh I think the GB won't be able to sustain those high speeds for a long time as I feel two factors at play here. It uses 0w-20 hence at speeds of 190 kmh the engine oil will wear faster as 0w-20 is more for fuel efficiency hence the oil will prematurely wear faster. Next would be the GB these CVT's are notorious for premature wear hence driving at high speeds will require more frequent GB oil change. That said for a compact car it's certainly the best in its class. Mercedes uses a 4 cylinder 1.3 derivatives for its lower A and C models which speak volumes of this engines potential.

However this 3 cylinder variant is not for kaki racing. It was never meant for racing and never will be suitable but that said for day to day overtaking or get go from traffic lights especially if you live in KL this is a lovely little car.

However with regards to corners is something I feel a little subjective, it is able to take corners precisely but I feel your issue with it taking corners is primarily due to tail winds not this cars outright ability as it is susceptible to wind direction like a smaller car . The cornering though say if you take at speeds of 80kmh is rather neat and not like a shopping trolley like some.B  segments.

Tan Chong I think offers some racing bars and stuff have you considered putting those? Heard it improves the cornering significantly but the ride and weight will be compromised.
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80kph take corner how many lanes? junction turn max berapa.
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Hi guys, i recently bought this car 2nd hand (2021 VLT), i would like all sifus to confirm if my car is normal or need to service

1. When i tried to accelerate from T junction, there are throttle lag. There are 0.5-1 second delay until the power kicks in, is that cvt issue or is it my engine problem?

2. I do not know what the sport mode does, it doesn't provide the kick like Ativa when in Power mode. Ativa's power mode had more kick, but almera's do not have any effect, is is my car's problem?

3. what tyres do you all recommend to reduce the humming noise when cruising? Still had the original tyres.

4. I do not owned any turbo car before, is there anything i need to look out of?

 

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