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 Nissan Almera Turbo 1.0 (N18) Ownership Experience, Sharing Thoughts / Experience / Issues

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SportyHandling
post Feb 21 2024, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(keithdx @ Oct 27 2022, 01:12 PM)
Before I could share any more on the experience, there's already a few comments here and there.

Got the Almera in white, paint so far all good. Whether thin or not, I have no idea. But I do wash the car weekly.

I have no complains with the interior aside from the Beige wrap on the Dashboard and on the seats. Would rather have it in all black.

MY OVERALL DRIVING EXPERIENCE THUS FAR (FROM PURCHASE TO 1,000KM)

Just keep in mind that, I do not know much driving terms, just a regular person sharing so others may find it helpful.

- It's quiet. Everything is dampened quite well. For the doors, you may have to close it a little bit more harder haha. Nothing wrong with that. Quiet maybe because of the Continental UC6 that it comes with.

- If I'm not mistaken, Full Tank is about RM 65, I will fill it until I am able to see the petrol at the top of the hole. Have not gone entirely on the highway but so far it with a city highway + city, it's about 450 - 470KM per fill (my experience). The counting on the meter shows 13KM/L I think. Home to work is about 1.5KM. So not much long distance travel, all nearby and sometimes highway.

- Used the Cruise Control once, don't find it really useful unless it's Adaptive Cruise Control.

- The Side / Rear / 360 Cameras are great and pretty accurate. During my initial test drive, the Salesperson showed how accurate it was. So no complains there. I like it that when I put it in reverse and turn the steering wheel, the guides turn as well. Don't want to start any fires here but it's better than the cameras on the current Flagship X50.

- There was one time I was about to enter the Smart Tunnel and just before entering I think there was this Height Limit sign just above the road (stretched across). I was going at about 80KM/H I think and suddenly the emergency brake thingy kicked in and went off after about 1 second / half a second. Not sure why but maybe it detected a possible hit.

- I use an Android and there's no Android Auto. But it connects via Bluetooth automatically whenever I switch on the car, so that doesn't really bother me. I still prefer to use Waze on my phone. It has Apple CarPlay but it's not wireless though.

- Acceleration is alright. It does the job when I need it to. It can take curves at a pretty reasonable speed, tried it at 90KM/H+, I didn't feel much, was pretty planted and smooth. I think the seats (because it's pretty bolstered on the side) helped as well.

- The top of the Dashboard is flat so can place the Smart Tag Holder and etc easily.

- Aircond is cold. And I don't think rear air vents are needed. Even with the lowest speed, it's cold.

That's about all there is thus far. Just done my 1,000KM Service and will update soon!

Any questions, drop ahead
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Somehow I missed this thread earlier. Looks like you may be the only owner of the Nissan Almera Turbo on this forum. We took delivery of the Almera Turbo Kuro black edition about 3 weeks ago just before Chinese New year.

May I ask if you have installed the Ultra Racing Stage 1 bars to your vehicle? Are there any other experiences you may want to share after owning the car for more than 2 years now? I got to know that TCEAS actually provides this Ultra Racing bar installation at all their service centres. Would like to know on the differences (if any) on handling of the vehicle if the UR bars are installed.

The Almera turbo is actually driven by my dad and I have not spent much time with the vehicle. Some key points of the Almera Turbo as follows:-

1. Noise insulation inside the cabin is rather good for a vehicle in this class. It's a quiet drive.
2. Acceleration power from the 1.0 litre turbo engine, no complaints. It cannot match the power of a 2.0 litre NA but the acceleration feels more powerful than most 1.5 litre NA engines. Some commented that the power is comparable to a 1.8 litre and I would tend to agree. Most 1.8 litre vehicles on the market are larger C-segment sedan and SUV such as Corolla sedan and Corolla Cross. Although they might appear more powerful on paper, in real life the acceleration feel is more or less the same as the Almera turbo due to the heavier weight. I've test driven both Corolla sedan and Corolla Cross prior to getting the Almera turbo. The acceleration power of the Corolla feels lethargic in comparison to the Ford Focus 2.0. As a matter of fact I felt the power surge of the Almera turbo to be comparable or better than the Corolla in the low to mid end speed.
3. Suspension feels soft and comfortable when going over speed bumps and undulations. Certainly tuned more toward comfort than sporty handling.
4. Steering is light and easy to drive. Steering feedback and sharpness are not as good as the Ford Focus but decent.
5. Tried bringing the car to 140 km/h on the highways and it doesn't feel too stable at higher speeds perhaps due to the undulations on the stretch along Kesas highway. It's a bit floaty at higher speeds. My benchmark is high as the Ford Focus I used to own for 10 years not only has excellent handling but also very good stability at high speeds.
6. A slight aeroplane "woo woo" sound between speeds 20 km/h to 100 km/h, not sure if from tyres or CVT. Will have it checked at the service centre during the 1,000km service.

Although the Almera turbo is considered to be quiet, the quitest and most comfortable vehicle I've driven (owned) is the Nissan Sylphy 2.0. Can't hear much engine, road and outside vehicle noise with the Sylphy. But in terms of handling the Sylphy is worse than the Almera turbo. When taking a corner, you have to do it at very low speeds or else you and all the other occupants sitting at the rear seat will be flung to one side.

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post Feb 27 2024, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(MegaCanonF @ Feb 27 2024, 08:58 AM)
how is the highway drive feel for this car?
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If around 110km/h and below, no issue. Just tried up to 140km/h along Kesas highway between Klang and PJ and it doesn't feel too stable and a little floaty, so I brought the speed back down to 100km/h. The stretch of highway along Kesas near Shah Alam is not even and undulating but still that is no excuse for the floaty feeling of the vehicle. Due to the light weight of the vehicle, it's not very stable at high speeds up to say 130 or 140km/h but if around 110km/h it should be fine.

For city driving it's quite perfect due to the light steering(easy to manoeuvre) and low petrol consumption. For highways, no issue at legal speed limits but floaty feeling at higher speeds.

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post Apr 7 2024, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(hotmilk001 @ Apr 7 2024, 04:08 PM)
Reasons to the floating feels probably due to the tyres pressure because it use hard compound UHP the pressure should be 210 not recommend as standard 230, it will much much better grip if you change to soft compound tyre like vios city using
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Higher tyre pressure might be a possible cause of the floating effect when driving at higher speeds. I didn't check the tyre pressure and didn't have the opportunity to drive the vehicle above 100km/h for the past few months as it's mostly driven around town.

There's one annoying aspect of the Nissan Almera I didn't bring up earlier. It's the humming sound from the Continental UC6 tyres when the vehicle is driven between speeds 20 km/h top 100 km/h. This humming sound from the tyres appears to affect all Nissan Almera as the Continental tyre outlet I visited notified that many Almera owners brought their cars to their outlet to complain on the humming sound like I did.

I need to select a silent tyre when the UC6 tyres are worn and due for replacement, perhaps in another 4 to 5 years. It's a pity that the standard UC6 tyres show the humming sound on the Nissan Almera.
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post Apr 7 2024, 05:48 PM

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QUOTE(touristking @ Apr 7 2024, 04:21 PM)
Japanese car is generally are more floaty at high speed compared to conti cars. I even felt floaty on my CRV at 140kph.
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I used to own the Nissan Sylphy 2.0. It's not only floaty but body roll is very high with this one and the speeds have to be very low when doing a 90 degrees cornering otherwise there's the feeling the vehicle is going to turn turtle. No joke. The Almera's handling is much improved to the old Sylphy and it's just the floating effect which is still present.

The soundproofing of the Almera is not as good as the Sylphy though.
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post May 20 2024, 07:35 PM

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QUOTE(keithdx @ May 20 2024, 06:10 PM)
For point 6, did you get it checked? Any feedback from Nissan TCM? I don't seem to have this issue actually or maybe I'm just not aware of it (tend to play loud music).
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Yes. Brought the car to service centre twice to have it checked and also at Continental tyre shop to have it checked and a report provided by Continental from the tests done to the tyres. The tests carried out at the Continental tyre outlet is arranged by Nissan's service centre.

To cut a long story short, the UC6 tyres do not show any defect and the sound from the tyres is said to be normal. I have sensitive ears so it's easy to pick up the sound. All Almera cars with UC6 should show this sound as the test drive car at the service centre also showed the exact same humming sound from the tyres after I tested it. Try listening to any humming sound without the music switched on. The sound will come up louder if the road surface is poor. It's very prominent and loud woo woo sound if the tyres are moving on old road surface which are worn out

I hope the sound will be gone with a change to a different brand of tyre but it will take some time for the tyres to get worn.
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post May 22 2024, 02:47 PM

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Finally, Carsifu released an article on the Nissan Almera Turbo GT Package.



https://www.carsifu.my/car-reviews/nissan-a...ckage-dark-draw

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post May 22 2024, 02:49 PM

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Also, just revealed, Nissan Kicks will be coming soon for those who are interested. I'm just waiting for this, hope they price it below market price. biggrin.gif

https://www.carsifu.my/news/edaran-tan-chon...of-local-launch

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post May 30 2024, 08:06 PM

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QUOTE(lordgamer3 @ May 29 2024, 10:41 PM)
This Abam drive 190 kmh looks OK only.


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It looks OK but in reality the car is really struggling at that speed. I've not driven the car past 140km/h as it is mostly used for city driving.

This Almera has a small 1.0-litre turbocharged engine and the nature of this design is to save fuel. With hard acceleration or driving at high speed, the engine emits a loud and weird sound as the roar of the engine is different from naturally aspirated engine, and it's not a pleasant sound. It's a loud and unpleasant high pitch tin can sound from the small turbo engine if you drive the car aggressively. The sound from the engine gives you a feeling that you are abusing it if the driver does hard acceleration or hitting close to top speed. It's the opposite experience with a powerful 2.0 litre NA engine where the normal robust roar of the engine gives you a feeling of assurance that the vehicle is doing fine even if you push it hard.

FWIW I don't feel confident driving the Almera turbo at high speed even at 140km/h due to the soft floaty suspension, and would be less inclined to abuse the car by driving at higher speeds due to the small capacity turbo engine. The nature or advantage of this vehicle is good fuel economy at low city speeds driving and a smooth, comfortable and quiet drive. I actually feel much safer doing 200+ km/h in the Ford Focus than 140km/h in the Almera. The Ford is not only much more powerful but a stable car when driven at high speeds. Well, that's another story. Horses for courses. Most people usually buy Nissan for smooth, comfortable and quiet drive. If you want speed and power then there are better choices, in my experience.

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post May 30 2024, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(lordgamer3 @ May 30 2024, 08:52 PM)
I've brought it at sufficiently high speeds and I feel its alright as had a C and D segment prior. Ofc one can argue that its not a fair comparison but thing is the Almera can't corner as well but unless there is stray winds I feel its relatively stable. My qualm though is for anyone taller then 6 feet the almera I feel though the  seats are decent and sufficient leg room I repeat sufficient,  if you are a tall guy putting your leg at the footrest you can feel the steering joint very close to your feet.

But at 120kmh 2k rpm the engine is quite quiet. Not sure how you drive but this car I am very easy on the throttle and let the torque build speed and try level best to keep rpm low.
As for sound My personal view it sounds nice from the cabin if you were to compare the S70,X50 or Ativa I feel this has the most refined 3 cylinder.
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Right, in terms of stability at high speeds, as I mentioned earlier the fastest I've traveled so far, only once is hitting 140km/h along Kesas highway between PJ and Klang. Along one stretch of the highway it's very undulating and it's where the car lost its composure. Perhaps on good levelled highways the car is stable at higher speeds. However, in direct comparison to the Ford Focus the stability of the car is down two or three notches. The Focus kept its composure very well even though the roads are undulating and not even. Somehow the suspension or chassis is able to contribute to the overall stability of the vehicle when travelling at high speeds even on undulating and uneven roads. The same cannot be said with the Almera as the feeling of the vehicle losing control is prevalent when travelling at high speeds on uneven roads. The wobble or sway of the vehicle from left to right is significantly higher.

As for the loud and annoying tin can roaring sound from the turbo engine, I was referring to pedal to the metal whenever one does hard acceleration. With slow build up of speed ie half pedal to metal, the sound from the engine is still acceptable and not too loud. When travelling close to top speed, one would need to pedal to the metal or you won't get close to the desired speed, so you will get this loud and weird sound from the turbo engine. The message I'm trying to convey from the aforementioned points is it's not advisable to drive the car aggressively by doing pedal to the metal at any given speed ie.when cruising at 60km/h you suddenly wish to quickly burst to 100km/h, or driving close to top speed as shown in the video above since this will put a lot of stress to the small capacity engine, coupled by the loud and weird high pitch tin can sound from the turbo engine. The Almera is not suitable to be driven aggressively anyway as in attacking corners and bends at higher speeds due to the loose steering which does not have much feel. It's more for slow, comfort, quiet and sedate driving, and in this area the Almera excels.

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QUOTE(lordgamer3 @ May 30 2024, 08:52 PM)
As for sound My personal view it sounds nice from the cabin if you were to compare the S70,X50 or Ativa I feel this has the most refined 3 cylinder.
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Good to know. It's the small little things that count. Sometimes people just focus on specs such as power, features etc. but there is no "spec" that describes on noise levels or refinement as in vibration from the engine. Yes, to me the level of quietness in the absence of noise in the cabin and vibration from the engine, it's quite good for a vehicle in its class, the Almera.

I hope the refinement and quietness of the upcoming Nissan Kicks will be one or two notches higher than this Almera.

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QUOTE(lordgamer3 @ May 31 2024, 08:26 AM)
Yep agreed the Almera is more for sedate driving and some overtaking but at 190kmh I think the GB won't be able to sustain those high speeds for a long time as I feel two factors at play here. It uses 0w-20 hence at speeds of 190 kmh the engine oil will wear faster as 0w-20 is more for fuel efficiency hence the oil will prematurely wear faster. Next would be the GB these CVT's are notorious for premature wear hence driving at high speeds will require more frequent GB oil change. That said for a compact car it's certainly the best in its class. Mercedes uses a 4 cylinder 1.3 derivatives for its lower A and C models which speak volumes of this engines potential.

However this 3 cylinder variant is not for kaki racing. It was never meant for racing and never will be suitable but that said for day to day overtaking or get go from traffic lights especially if you live in KL this is a lovely little car.

However with regards to corners is something I feel a little subjective, it is able to take corners precisely but I feel your issue with it taking corners is primarily due to tail winds not this cars outright ability as it is susceptible to wind direction like a smaller car . The cornering though say if you take at speeds of 80kmh is rather neat and not like a shopping trolley like some.B  segments.

Tan Chong I think offers some racing bars and stuff have you considered putting those? Heard it improves the cornering significantly but the ride and weight will be compromised.
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Yes agreed. This Almera is very good for KL city driving. We haven't brought it to outstation highway trip yet but believe it would be equally satisfactory when traveling within the speed limit or slightly above.

As for cornering capabilities, I haven't really driven the car like I used to on my (currently sold) Ford Focus since the Almera is mainly driven by my dad. However, it's decently capable mainly due to suspension. IT's just the steering feel which lacks feedback, accuracy and sharpness for spirited drives but in normal driving there are no complaints. In other words the steering of the Almera feels a bit loose.

Yes, I did look at the Ultra Racing bars before as Nissan's service centre actually provide installation of these Ultra racing bars Stage 1 and 2. However, I didn't proceed with it as I felt that the Almera is fine as it is and for the fact that we are all satisfied by the way it handles, as a family-orientated comfort sedan. I don't drive the way I used to drive (on the Ford Focus) as it's now mostly slow and sedate driving. Nowadays the criteria is more to slow and comfort driving than fast and furious racing on the race tracks.

 

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