Boss,
Still waiting.
And you do owe alot of PH owners an explanation for your statement. It's only fair for the owners to demand an explanation from you as your statement directly affects their property.

I'm also pretty sure SDP themselves would like to know how you derived at your above statements.

1st gen or 2nd gen, the properties are all still occupied and demand is there despite you saying it is a failure.
If failed, won't it be unable to sell and the value depreciate over the 2 generation?
Children move out to other places means the current place no good? There is a Chinese saying, it is human nature to look up and for water to flow down.

Still waiting...
Oh.... BTW i'm a PH owner too ...ya 😆

Im PH offspring guess where im moving to next??



Hint: Not PH

discuss can, but freeloading no. Clue is quite clear. you need to do some homework.

Bro, I don't side with anyone here! But I don't understand why you keep saying PH has all the negative downsides! yawn:
Just let the buyer decide if they want to invest in PH. It's their money and their choice mah.
So just chill up!

Boss,
Homework already done.
Results contradict with what you say.

If you can't share your source data, you can at least explain why your claim contradict with other data.

You issued 2 strong statement here but unwilling to back it up and refuse to explain yourself. Your statements directly affect existing owners property, the least you can do is explain your statement instead of hiding behind some excuses.

If this were a yet to be launch township, I can still understand but this has been around for 20 years, all historical data is there and yet you claim otherwise.

So, I'm still waiting....

very nice and botak yahooooo

question to agent: u can gurantee monkeys wont invade ur condo? bcs now they roam around that area and around the hilltop parks ravaging tong sampah for food

if the shoplots downstairs never maintain cleanliness its gonna be a big headache issue if monkeys ravage ur main tong sampah every night

are you sure you staying in PH and telling everyone there is no proper big park for jogging?

and it is never necessary to have a big mall within 5km, everyone just needs a neighborhood mall to buy groceries. Majority don't fancy having crowded expensive mall in own Taman causing traffic jams

no proper place to jog here

hilltop park? full of old tongkat uncles in the morning and crowded with families with small kids during evening so its hazardess to jog there

park at seksyen 2? so small dont even call it a jogging park

need a park like in kota kemuning, or bukit jalil just for example

u want to train at a proper stadium track?

too bad u gotta go to shah alam or mbsj

dont say 5km

within 10km also no proper mall

im listing the bad points as agents here only mention the positive points

so think 1st before signing

Hi fellow PH resident

I am in putra bistari,, and it appears some property agent with many dupes purposely providing fake information in this thread...

this agent probably selling condo in puchong or pj and cannot join the serasi sales team.

PH is blessed with many many greens with lower temperature, NEVER flood at home or roads because whole PH on a hill, only the adjacent Malay village Lanchong was flooded in 2021, 3 lrt stations (both lines), no traffic jam, many schools including international and new Chinese school, own Plus highway interchange, there is even a hidden lake beside section 2/3 and putra residence but not suitable for recreation. NSK hypermarket, Jaya grocer, giant , Texas chicken, MCD, Starbucks etc within 5 mins

ok, you admitted you listing bad points intentionally
rarely in forum the bad points are exaggerated and intentionally dismissing the good points..unless there is ulterior motive

every other city have own problems, so where is the best place in Klang valley ?
usj/ subang ss not gated guarded, no IKEA
rimbayu,Kota kemuning doesn't have lrt
usj doesn't have proper mall,
PJ, Sunway, Puchong is traffic jam, no KLCC
shah Alam no entertainment, flooded
setia Alam Klang, semenyih , rawang Hulu

Bro, where is the best place should we live or invest?
Need your feedback!!!!

its not intentional

usj how near to reach sunway pyramid? how near to reach mid valley?

shah alam has a big lake park

got waterpark



if u say INVEST then ph u might need to think twice

if u ask abour ownstay then u need to choose a place which suits u

for my ownstay, ph is not 1st in my list

Thank you Boss.
I didn't see his posting intention that way until you mentioned it.

Much appreciated 👍

Boss,
It's okay to list the disadvantages, all township has it but be mindful of the language use. The Old tongkat uncle could be me...ya.

You say no proper place to jog, I'm not a jogger but some of my neighbors are. 1 of them even is a marathon runner and he train in PH. Didn't hear him complaint or the other joggers. Maybe you have higher standards or demand better or more proper site, fair enough but don't need to say this park too small or park full with Old tongkat uncle or family with kids. That's what a park is for. There are 2 major parks in PH in addition to open spaces in each phases. So everyone has some room and the roads are very wide, mostly dual lanes for each sides with walkways at the side for most part. In that sense, sdp has been generous to allocate such wide roads in PH. So while PH may not have jogging park up to your standard, it does provide parks or open spaces for such activities and for general use, it's pretty adequate I would say.

You go KK park, you think no Old tongkat uncle or kids there? I've jog in KK too a couple of years back and it's no different, crowded with ppl especially evening time and weekend got ppl play speedboat by the lake and it's even smaller now with the mosque build.

Mall, we have neighborhood mall in the form of Main Place. Not the best but for normal needs it's okay.
Not sure what you mean by proper mall, maybe you mean those mega mall like Pavilion or Sunway Pyramid but those are normally situated in high dense location, hardly suitable to be inside or within 5km to the township. Even KK only has a neighborhood mall, Gamuda Walk.

At least for PH, if we want to go to a big mall, there is Sunway Pyramid located about 15km away. Not close but definitely not too far.

So, your list of disadvantages is really not that big an issue. While they are there, it is also present in most other township.

As mentioned by our fellow PH from Putra Bistari, no township is perfect. All has their own shortcomings and we choose the ones that fit us the most base on our need and requirements and appreciate what other township has and learn from them.

Happy hunting....ya

Thats why for ownstay is very subjective

its purely my personal preference to stay in a place which suits my lifestyle better

KK taman got lake n its much bigger per loop to jog

shops there hamkachan also u can get so convenience is top

PH here lacks that proper township planning imo

everything must rely on usj and puchong

Let me list the good points of PH caz many owners scared their house price drop from /k posts

1. Peaceful n serene
2. Lots of park for casual chilling
3. Shops and foods available, mcd
4. LRT main station
5. Easy exit to elite. Go klia 30mins reach
6. High land so no flood
7. no jams
8. freehold landed
9. kingsley international school
10. easy access to go shah alam, klang, usj, puchong
11. when people ask where ar putra heights, can say its next to usj


what else please add

Boss,
Don't differentiate between ownstay and investment.
Ownstay must also be a good investment.
If you can have both, why not?

PH township planning is not poor or improper, just abit mismanaged.

If you were the very first purchaser i.e. those who camp overnight at sdp office at level 5 for 2 nights in 1999, then you would know that PH was supposed to be an extension of USJ. Before the bridge that goes over Elite highway was build and connect USJ to PH The Glades, we had to reach PH via shah Alam route. We purchaser sought clarification from sdp and was reassured the bridge will be build and also the interchange USJ 26 and 27 from persiaran kewajipan.

Hence, PH was always meant to use amenities from USJ. It was supposed to be deeper in and further away from Taipan commercial in return for lower entry price. Hence the early phase of PH started off with good land sizes 20x70, 22x75 and even 26x75 but some build up were smaller to reflect the lower entry price.

However, as the township grew and more ppl move in due to the attractive price and serene and peaceful and less traffic jam (USJ = Ultra Super Jam), it started to boom and the commercial shoplots was launch. Unfortunately as most residents were those that didn't have high disposal income, the commercial fail to pick and sdp had sold most of the shoplot to individuals and only retained 1 or 2 corner lots as sales gallery.
Without control on the commi, they couldn't bring the place up but I also believe that at this time there was a change in management team in SDP. The new team wasn't as forward looking and this is where I believe the new team mismanaged PH development.

If you studied PH master plan and discussed with the developer, you will know why PH is so serene and peaceful but loses on vibrant commercial. Taipan was still their main focus and there wasn't any plan to push the commi in PH until recently with the launch of PHSentral.

The question to ask developer now is are they going to repeat the same mistake by selling the shoplots at Serasi to individuals or will sdp keep them and develop it with the rest of PHSentral?

Over to you...

I live nearby at Alam Megah so always go to PH. Hence why decided to buy here.

Talking about malls, I usually go anywhere in Klang Valley. IOI City mall also always go.

PH has downsides that I know of; no primary banks only have Bank Islam here. Hopefully in the near future Maybank will open branch here la.

Hlb also got la. Why always go to ph bro, shah alam so big?

This post has been edited by BRE: Jun 7 2023, 12:21 PM