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 Honda big bikes ... stock starvation, why ah?

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alexei
post Sep 9 2024, 09:37 AM

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Tmax ~= 180kmph
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post Sep 9 2024, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Sep 9 2024, 09:23 AM)
what's the RPM at those speeds?
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I noticed I am hovering around 3.5k-4.5k rpm but will confirm back.

Gone to 6k rpm when overtake up to 130km/h, or when climbing hills.


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post Sep 9 2024, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Sep 9 2024, 09:36 AM)
top speed should be ~153km/h
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It's alright.
Never have balls for this speed.
Don't think I will ever find out.
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post Sep 9 2024, 09:50 AM

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But good to know I have some reserve after 130km/h momentary peak during overtaking.
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post Sep 9 2024, 10:11 AM

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QUOTE(WH4CockcooBird @ Sep 9 2024, 09:48 AM)
I noticed I am hovering around 3.5k-4.5k rpm but will confirm back.

Gone to 6k rpm when overtake up to 130km/h, or when climbing hills.
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It's alright.
Never have balls for this speed.
Don't think I will ever find out.
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top speed = cube root (hp) * 49.5 kmh

my 400 is a twin cylinder, so power comes at later rpm, around 1k late, 30kph at 3k, then slowly 90kph at 5.5k RPM so it isn't as fuel economy as the ADV350, around 20km/liter only
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post Sep 9 2024, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Sep 9 2024, 10:11 AM)
top speed = cube root (hp) * 49.5 kmh

my 400 is a twin cylinder, so power comes at later rpm, around 1k late, 30kph at 3k, then slowly 90kph at 5.5k RPM so it isn't as fuel economy as the ADV350, around 20km/liter only
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My screen reporting 29km/liter for 330cc. So your 400cc getting 20km/liter is ok lah.
Compared to my ADV160 that's around 45km/h, had to say the efficiency of 350 is good.
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post Sep 9 2024, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(WH4CockcooBird @ Sep 9 2024, 10:55 AM)
My screen reporting 29km/liter for 330cc. So your 400cc getting 20km/liter is ok lah.
Compared to my ADV160 that's around 45km/h, had to say the efficiency of 350 is good.
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Singles are very fuel efficient if kept at low speeds. But Honda engines are typically very frugal. Both the 500 and 750 xadv/nc mills sips gas.

My similar sized dominar will also do 27-30km/L if ridden at 80-100.

The funny part is my dominar and 800nk gets the same fuel economy numbers going at 140 so go figure.....
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post Sep 9 2024, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Sep 9 2024, 12:39 PM)
Singles are very fuel efficient if kept at low speeds. But Honda engines are typically very frugal. Both the 500 and 750 xadv/nc mills sips gas.

My similar sized dominar will also do  27-30km/L if ridden at 80-100.

The funny part is my dominar and 800nk gets the same fuel economy numbers going at 140 so go figure.....
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yeah, even the Tigers are frugal
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post Sep 9 2024, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Sep 9 2024, 09:36 AM)
top speed should be ~153km/h
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Is it unmodified? Or modified?
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post Sep 9 2024, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(WH4CockcooBird @ Sep 9 2024, 06:56 AM)
Quick and short update.

Ride less than 500km so far

New suspension hard but after thar few hundred KM begin to behave a bit.

Overall (surprisingly) ride like my ADV160 kind of nimbleness on road. Really loves going around bends.

Torque is there, climbing Karak Cameron like flat road.

Does not set road on fire so don't expect it a rocket launcher more a torquey rider.

It's just a bit heavy at stationary to push around. 185kg.

Don't ask me top speed. I ride around 80-100km/h speed, only accelerate (easily) to 130 during overtake.
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Cool.. better saving $$$. biggrin.gif Thnx for the review.

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post Sep 9 2024, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(yhsiau @ Sep 9 2024, 01:32 PM)
Is it unmodified? Or modified?
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Standard, according to some reviewer.
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QUOTE(yhsiau @ Sep 9 2024, 01:35 PM)
Cool.. better saving $$$. biggrin.gif  Thnx for the review.
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Honestly, there's buyer remorse when I saw the new Forza side by side with my ADV350.

Forza looks soooo elegant and classy, albeit with 250cc engine, overall maintenance cost is much lower. You have the option of ahem ahem it to same engine as 350 at below 4k only while keeping your engine number.. ahem....

The Forza windshield and rear view mirror really nice.
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post Sep 9 2024, 07:24 PM

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QUOTE(WH4CockcooBird @ Sep 9 2024, 03:55 PM)
Honestly, there's buyer remorse when I saw the new Forza side by side with my ADV350.

Forza looks soooo elegant and classy, albeit with 250cc engine, overall maintenance cost is much lower. You have the option of ahem ahem it to same engine as 350 at below 4k only while keeping your engine number.. ahem....

The Forza windshield and rear view mirror really nice.
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BW can do such service!? shocking.gif
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QUOTE(yhsiau @ Sep 9 2024, 07:24 PM)
BW can do such service!?  shocking.gif
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opkos no lah, do it at outside workshop.

You join the Forza FB group and plenty garage offering this.

The mod is super straight forward unlike those on Xmax.
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post Sep 9 2024, 08:46 PM

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post Sep 13 2024, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Sep 9 2024, 01:28 PM)
yeah, even the Tigers are frugal
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yeah i was surprised to know Triumph Tiger 900 has about the same fuel mileage as my Z650. Considering its a bigger bike.
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post Sep 14 2024, 08:24 PM

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i am still idiotly waiting for the 2024 cbr model lol
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post Sep 15 2024, 01:44 PM

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the ADV 350 so tiny..... got the 750 instead.

Never understood why the ADV 750 was so popular even after working for so long in BSH.... now i know why

Its a big bike that handles like a small bike.... so nimble and satisfying

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post Sep 15 2024, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(selenium @ Sep 15 2024, 01:44 PM)
the ADV 350 so tiny..... got the 750 instead.

Never understood why the ADV 750 was so popular even after working for so long in BSH.... now i know why

Its a big bike that handles like a small bike.... so nimble and satisfying
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then after a while, it wears off, and the shortcomings will present itself... hahaha, then, there's no replacement for it
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post Sep 15 2024, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Sep 15 2024, 08:32 PM)
then after a while, it wears off, and the shortcomings will present itself... hahaha, then, there's no replacement for it
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