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post Jul 20 2023, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(vexus @ Jul 19 2023, 10:07 PM)
forget about honda. Honda japan think moving their production from china to india will solve their problem. They follow USA = go to hell.
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Good luck to them.. they following the foot steps of Ford. laugh.gif
Yindia is notoriously good on harvesting foreign investors $$$.
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post Jul 20 2023, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Jul 20 2023, 12:21 PM)
So now, between made in China vs India, which one to take?
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China is more friendly towards foreign investors.. except u meddling with their politics shits.

Honda has no direct investment in China. But thru JV investment.
There are 2 honda JV companies in china.

Sundiro Honda (新大洲本田) mainly focus small displacement bikes.
Wuyang Honda (五羊本田) focus bigger displacement bike (mostly import)

Btw, forza 350(nss350) already assembled in china.

Their version of forza 350 has electric foldable side mirrors. A nice to have features. laugh.gif
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post Sep 4 2023, 07:36 AM

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QUOTE(WH4CockcooBird @ Aug 31 2023, 08:39 AM)
I don't know what are new ones coming, I am not interested in those big bikes except scooter. However, I am surely seeing stock being replenished very slooooowly at Big Wings. Compared to before there was zero movement on big bikes or CBU bikes. Also pretty definite about the ADV350 as they are beginning to compile list of takers.
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BoonSiew SG brought in ADV 350.. the price is 12K+SGD before COE. Be prepared that u might need about 40kRM for this baby next year in the bolehland. doh.gif
Also, BoonSiew MY might downgrade the displacement to 250CC in order to get more buyers(b2 license rider). Forza is a typical example. cry.gif

https://boonsiewhonda.com.sg/Models/adv350


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post Sep 4 2023, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(WH4CockcooBird @ Sep 4 2023, 09:48 AM)
Let’s just say I have faith in Honda Thailand to give the finger to BSH on request to custom build 250 from 330 for a really really small market, a trouble proven futile in the case of Forza… they cannot adopt the 250 from Forza cos that engine is already phased out. 

Fark SG lah not same comparison. 😬

If BSH die die want to sell it premium due to success of XADV750, there’s a good chance they may make it work with the ADV350 at just below the price point of a CB500X
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Forza sold in Jap & Indonesia are also 250cc.. laugh.gif

Its understandable la.. BSH doesn't feel any heats of competitions.
If BSH priced Adv 350 @ 35k or more, I am thinking of buy other brands mid size maxi scooter.

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post Sep 4 2023, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(WH4CockcooBird @ Sep 4 2023, 08:33 PM)
Seriously, pricing of Modenas Kawasaki is causing a stir in the market.

Versys 650 going at 36k, same price as Honda CB500X.
Many will go for Versys.

If ADV350 goes at 35k, many will think many times over except rare fools like me that want only scooter.
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A hardcore Honda ADV scooter fan spotted! laugh.gif

The problem is BSH not keen on competitions. They think that whatever bikes they brought in sure sell like hot cakes. doh.gif




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post Sep 5 2023, 07:38 AM

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QUOTE(WH4CockcooBird @ Sep 4 2023, 10:56 PM)
I am only into santai santai makan angin sana sini not into zoom zoom broom broom riding.
Even on higher cc bike, I am going 80-90km/h.

Also not a person into style. Just want a scooter with high enough handlebar to clear my long legs and easy ride, with plenty storage under my arse.
Hahahaha... not hard core lah... blame my 183cm height with long legs.
Tested a lot of scooters only the ADV150/160 have handlebar that cleared my legs.

The 750 is too big not enough storage under my arse so not considering it.

Booked the Forza / Xmax for it's larger storage but both their handlebar will hit my legs on tight turns.

When heard rumors of ADV350.. I know my mind is made.
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There is a mat saleh review on Adv 160 VS Adv 350.



For urban area usage, Adv 350 is tougher to maneuver around than the Adv 160 due to the size.
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post Jan 16 2024, 01:32 PM

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Hypetrain inkambing!!! laugh.gif

It's about the ADV350 coming to the bolehland this year.
Sos:
https://<link removed>/2024/01/15/honda-adv-35...-debut-in-2024/

Dunno true or not.
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post Jan 27 2024, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(selenium @ Jan 27 2024, 09:34 AM)
It's in the pipeline... but since it's a CBU model, arrival will be affected do to unresolved beurocracy in BSH...
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How many units will the BSH bring in? 500 units just like Taiwan honda did in 2022? laugh.gif

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post Jan 31 2024, 04:51 PM

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CB350rs is popular in yindia.. I prefer cb400sf.

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post Feb 2 2024, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(lowpro @ Feb 2 2024, 09:40 AM)
Yes, you're right. Probably due to income levels, and bad roads and maybe lack of service centres (I did mention 'probably'), they prefer small capacity, single cylinder bikes. But Yamaha is seen to be getting back into the single game too with the upcoming SR400 https://www.yamaha-motor.co.th/bigbike/sr400-2023/overview
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Single cylinder bikes is price friendly. But, riders need to suffer vibrations. laugh.gif
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post Feb 3 2024, 08:43 AM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Feb 2 2024, 04:18 PM)
price frenly in india; not in msia lol...
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Yes, it doesn't apply on bolehland(Scalpers heaven).
I believe the OTR price would be 25k-30k RM la.
Hope I am wrong.. laugh.gif
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post Apr 24 2024, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(WH4CockcooBird @ Apr 23 2024, 08:48 PM)
May 2024 also coming liao and Big Wing still selling kapchai... sad...
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Yup, no news on any local mid/big sizes bike recently.. I think BSH offended Honda Jap, they can't get stock allocation priority. laugh.gif
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post Apr 24 2024, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(WH4CockcooBird @ Apr 24 2024, 01:32 PM)
Rebels and CBR650 are trickling in, but not other models.

Some says the AP holder also play a part with BSH and not just Honda Thai / Jap.

I am still patiently waiting for ADV350 after giving up the Forza that arrived 1.5 years after booking biggrin.gif
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Speaking of latest CB650.. its available in TW markets. With E-clutch, it makes you feel like riding a 200+kg kapchai, keep the left hand from squeezing clutch. This is fun especially riding in urban heavy traffic.. with frequent stop & go situations.
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post May 19 2024, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(waili008 @ May 19 2024, 02:28 PM)
do you guys think boon siew honda will announce the 2024 cb/cbr650r at Malaysia Autoshow 2024?
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I think BSH will announce new models in the MA2024. There lots of rumours floating around.. including the cb350 (the curryland bike), ADV 350, transalp 750(XL750) & etc. have to wait patiently for BSH reveal the details.

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post May 21 2024, 05:41 PM

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Adv350 price leaked.. 33999rm. OMG.
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post May 21 2024, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(Patent @ May 21 2024, 06:18 PM)
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the price... lol
this time sure got stock?
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Unless BSH adv350 comes with 42 litter Shad keyless topbox.
Else, it's a turn off for me. They never mentioned about its specs..
I can sure that if it's a Jap CBU bike, the engine displacement will be capped @ 250cc.
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post May 21 2024, 07:02 PM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ May 21 2024, 06:39 PM)
Ok la. At least launch smthing,

Hongleong ymh doesnt even bother....
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Only new colour for xmax.. laugh.gif
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post May 21 2024, 07:37 PM

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QUOTE(Patent @ May 21 2024, 07:23 PM)
so many questions about their pricing decision..

adv 350 - way too overpriced, might as well get zontes 350
nx500 - also overpriced, versys 650 is the better choice at this price
cb750 hornet - similar retail price with gsx 8s but suzuki have been giving 10k rebate for the past 6 months, making their bike price 40k.. also cb750 need add on quickshifter (no idea if it come default in our country)

arguably the hornet has more power compared to the suzuki, still the pricing is still not that good IMO

but maybe because 'H' tag they can do this? hmm.gif
im a believer that market disruption has happened with cheaper bikes (china) having the same if not better build quality.. with ready stocks
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The Wing brand bike sure have abundant confidents on its products pricing. True fans will get watever they want just like the apple "i" products. laugh.gif
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post May 22 2024, 06:20 PM

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QUOTE(selenium @ May 22 2024, 05:53 PM)
As a Honda fan - kinda insulted u compared us to "Cap epal" hahahha. (sorry Cap Epal fans)

for the price - Xadv is as above ..
for the NX500 - not too far off the CB500 it is replacing
for the transalps.... i think that pricing is kinda sweet spot for those wanting an alternative to the Africa twin (which is almost double the price)
kinda agree on the Hornet thou - with that price, have many more option
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34krm body price way too much for me.. was expecting 30krm or below. Some more, those scalper might hit 40krm otr price Which is likely to be happened.
Basically, I think BSH apply this 1 big item price = 2 small item price on its products. Therefore, Price of the Xadv = 2 X adv350 price. But can't brain that price of ADV 350 = 2.5 X adv160 price.
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QUOTE(selenium @ May 22 2024, 07:06 PM)
To your point of 30k below... then everyone will flock to this bike instead of Xmax or forza...
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Adv 350 is a just tuned up version of Forza 350 (NSS350). The price gap between Forza & Adv 350 is too significant.
Not really every1 will flock to this bike if priced below 30KRM (body price), it could fend off the competition heats from Zontes for now.
Zontes incoming ADV scooter(368g & 501) could prove serious competition to honda Adv scooter.

Most of the B full riders might think that this Adv 350 offers less appeal to them.

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