QUOTE(petlu28 @ Jun 15 2013, 04:50 PM)
Hi Petlu, yes RM1500 including installation from Winson.You can check his number in this thread.
Automatic Gate, How much do you need to install one ?
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Jun 19 2013, 04:12 PM
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QUOTE(lui @ Jun 19 2013, 04:10 PM) Hi jimmylim85, if you respond to this thread before i install my auto gate system. I will choose DCMoto already, i am so headache on choosing one of them 2 weeks back. just curious, how is it better? We just installed CASA recently, the arm is stainless steel as well. Since there is no mechanical (hydraulic) parts, we felt, its better in longer run.A lot of installer here in KL still recommend arm type, and I try to survey around my taman and found no one is using DC or CASA type of system. The information you provided here are very useful, as you are a installer. A installer in KL here recommend wall mount system from OAE, is stainless steel made claim to be better than DC and CASA. Any review? I think its all up to individual preference. As long as service and warranty is to your liking, go with it |
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Jun 19 2013, 04:20 PM
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QUOTE(Maknusia @ Jun 19 2013, 04:17 PM) just curious, how is it better? We just installed CASA recently, the arm is stainless steel as well. Since there is no mechanical (hydraulic) parts, we felt, its better in longer run. Hi, the arm is SS but the body casing is plastic right?I think its all up to individual preference. As long as service and warranty is to your liking, go with it The OAE one is SS even the body itself as i see the catalog. May i know how much u install CASA? How what is your review? |
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Jun 19 2013, 04:34 PM
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QUOTE(lui @ Jun 19 2013, 04:20 PM) Hi, the arm is SS but the body casing is plastic right? It was my hubby's choice. and you are correct, the casing is plastic as in the picture.The OAE one is SS even the body itself as i see the catalog. May i know how much u install CASA? How what is your review? ![]() http://casa-asia.com/s320h.php our view was that, after sometime (the previous models installed at our relatives homes) the arm movement was not smooth, say after 5-10 years. with the system that dc-moto and casa has, its gear system with oil filled, hence should withstand longer. we might be wrong, but that was our understanding. |
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Jun 19 2013, 04:35 PM
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Can share what happen with your autogate?
QUOTE(lui @ Jun 19 2013, 04:10 PM) Hi jimmylim85, if you respond to this thread before i install my auto gate system. I will choose DCMoto already, i am so headache on choosing one of them 2 weeks back. A lot of installer here in KL still recommend arm type, and I try to survey around my taman and found no one is using DC or CASA type of system. The information you provided here are very useful, as you are a installer. A installer in KL here recommend wall mount system from OAE, is stainless steel made claim to be better than DC and CASA. Any review? |
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Jun 19 2013, 04:52 PM
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QUOTE(Maknusia @ Jun 19 2013, 04:34 PM) It was my hubby's choice. and you are correct, the casing is plastic as in the picture. 5-10 years are very long, worth the money we spend =)![]() http://casa-asia.com/s320h.php our view was that, after sometime (the previous models installed at our relatives homes) the arm movement was not smooth, say after 5-10 years. with the system that dc-moto and casa has, its gear system with oil filled, hence should withstand longer. we might be wrong, but that was our understanding. Does your CASA have some high pitch noise when it open or close? QUOTE(petlu28 @ Jun 19 2013, 04:35 PM) Hi petlu, my story is my old underground system keep giving me issue and it will cost me RM380 to change the mother board this time. So I decide to change a new system, but i have a plan to extend my gate and change it from swing to folding type at end of this year.Therefore, I survey and research for the most suitable system for my plan. Many installer told me to use wall type at the beginning, but during the chat session with all the installer they will point out a lot of cons for wall mount system. Like noisy, wait longer to repair as factory at Penang, DCMoto keep changing the internal parts as using the customer to be the white mouse... But as i know by logical thinking, wall mount system is the best for folding gate. Because the arm is smaller, so the gate can fold wider or to the maximum. As compare to those arm system, the huge stainless steel body will stuck in between the folding gate and causing it cant open to the max. Due to all the comment from the installers, i do not have confident to the wall mount system and end up i chosen the MAG Wing 303 arm which cost me RM1200. The arm is huge but speed is slow. |
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Jun 19 2013, 04:58 PM
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You are right. Many grill contractor will recommend arm gate even i saw those house also install arm gate. Do you have regret after install MAG Wing 303?
QUOTE(lui @ Jun 19 2013, 04:52 PM) 5-10 years are very long, worth the money we spend =) Does your CASA have some high pitch noise when it open or close? Hi petlu, my story is my old underground system keep giving me issue and it will cost me RM380 to change the mother board this time. So I decide to change a new system, but i have a plan to extend my gate and change it from swing to folding type at end of this year. Therefore, I survey and research for the most suitable system for my plan. Many installer told me to use wall type at the beginning, but during the chat session with all the installer they will point out a lot of cons for wall mount system. Like noisy, wait longer to repair as factory at Penang, DCMoto keep changing the internal parts as using the customer to be the white mouse... But as i know by logical thinking, wall mount system is the best for folding gate. Because the arm is smaller, so the gate can fold wider or to the maximum. As compare to those arm system, the huge stainless steel body will stuck in between the folding gate and causing it cant open to the max. Due to all the comment from the installers, i do not have confident to the wall mount system and end up i chosen the MAG Wing 303 arm which cost me RM1200. The arm is huge but speed is slow. |
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Jun 19 2013, 05:05 PM
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QUOTE(lui @ Jun 19 2013, 04:52 PM) 5-10 years are very long, worth the money we spend =) You've probably made a very practical and sensible choice. The wall mounted systems do look aesthetically more pleasing, however they are not as mainstream and as well supported by the installers in KL.Does your CASA have some high pitch noise when it open or close? Hi petlu, my story is my old underground system keep giving me issue and it will cost me RM380 to change the mother board this time. So I decide to change a new system, but i have a plan to extend my gate and change it from swing to folding type at end of this year. Therefore, I survey and research for the most suitable system for my plan. Many installer told me to use wall type at the beginning, but during the chat session with all the installer they will point out a lot of cons for wall mount system. Like noisy, wait longer to repair as factory at Penang, DCMoto keep changing the internal parts as using the customer to be the white mouse... But as i know by logical thinking, wall mount system is the best for folding gate. Because the arm is smaller, so the gate can fold wider or to the maximum. As compare to those arm system, the huge stainless steel body will stuck in between the folding gate and causing it cant open to the max. Due to all the comment from the installers, i do not have confident to the wall mount system and end up i chosen the MAG Wing 303 arm which cost me RM1200. The arm is huge but speed is slow. |
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QUOTE(petlu28 @ Jun 19 2013, 04:58 PM) You are right. Many grill contractor will recommend arm gate even i saw those house also install arm gate. Do you have regret after install MAG Wing 303? QUOTE(weitatt @ Jun 19 2013, 05:05 PM) You've probably made a very practical and sensible choice. The wall mounted systems do look aesthetically more pleasing, however they are not as mainstream and as well supported by the installers in KL. After reading the professional comment and information from Jimmy, I will give DC a try if I'm allow to choose again.Because i will extend my gate from now 10" to future 14", if the arm block the folding by 1" then i will remain 12" only after the gate open. Which i think is a main concern for me. If your gate is 20" wide, then waste of 2" to you is nothing. But for my small house, 14" is the max i can give to my gate. |
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QUOTE(lui @ Jun 19 2013, 05:30 PM) After reading the professional comment and information from Jimmy, I will give DC a try if I'm allow to choose again. Your gate in inches or feet? Arm or DC motor you still block. When I check few installer DC moto actually larger foot print than arm. Well at least for my case with oae is smaller footprint.Because i will extend my gate from now 10" to future 14", if the arm block the folding by 1" then i will remain 12" only after the gate open. Which i think is a main concern for me. If your gate is 20" wide, then waste of 2" to you is nothing. But for my small house, 14" is the max i can give to my gate. |
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QUOTE(weikee @ Jun 19 2013, 07:13 PM) Your gate in inches or feet? Arm or DC motor you still block. When I check few installer DC moto actually larger foot print than arm. Well at least for my case with oae is smaller footprint. footprint means the space taken up by the gate when it is folded to the side?so wad is OAE's footprint??usuually folding gate got two panels on each side rite?so it should be the same unless ur gate is thinner |
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QUOTE(weikee @ Jun 16 2013, 09:08 AM) Thanks for sharing, good to share and exchange knowledge. wad does reversibility mean?OAE = Screw Driven = WORM Drive in engineering term, there are good and bad for WORM and planetary/Epicyclic gearing. WORM have seaf breaking (non-reversibility), Planetary required breaking gears/shaft to prevent the gate push open. Given the same build and quality both will last long. Correct me if I am wrong, during my search for autogate I find the DC motor will be harder to fit in smaller gate like 10' gate, putting the DC motor may take up more space, and actually the submerge/arm version will be better. QUOTE(jimmylim85 @ Jun 18 2013, 09:28 AM) In terms of pricing for spare parts, it also have to consider how much the dealers are selling too. ARM-type usually forced to replace the whole arm unit due to the complexity and non serviceable parts. For RM 250 most probably to get you a recondition arm type motor, RM 400 I would believe is a brand new arm type. But that's the price for one arm. Normal swing/fold system have two arms. If both arm break-down, is double the price you mention. wad is the meaning of learn?Compared with DCMoto/Casa Asia using planetary gearbox. It's like staged modular gearbox. Parts are replaceable, doesn't force the owner to have the complete motor system to be replaced! Usual parts that wears out is the main gear reducer. Probably last 3-5 years before it require replacement. For your information, I've never replace a complete DCMoto motor system to date! What If the DCMoto/Casa Asia faulty is just a few piece of gears which can be replaced probably around rm 100 or less for each side, you wouldn't have to force yourself replace the whole motor system. If you're worried about unable to find spare parts for DCMoto/Casa Asia, you can always log in to their website & contact them. They will assist you on getting the spare parts. I've haven't heard of hard to get spare parts from them. The reason DCMoto customized their circuit board is to make it perfect for customer demand for safety, reliability, featured-wise and smoothness. DCMoto has been coming up with generation of circuit board to fine-tune it. Have you seen a auto-gate system circuit board that is pure plug-play? Any ARM-type system requires you to adjust the sensitivity of the arm forcing to push/pull the gate. DCMoto/Casa Asia doesn't need that, wire up the motor cable, power up and let it "LEARN" the first time for auto calibration. Since it runs on programmed digital timing, it will never go wrong with the gate movement. lui wad do u mean by "As compare to those arm system, the huge stainless steel body will stuck in between the folding gate and causing it cant open to the max"? btw are dcmoto/casa asia gates able to open wide as that advertised by unigate?from the comments its seems MAG is much recommended,can someone deliberate on how it works?as in izzit a system or juz an 'arm' itself? |
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Jun 19 2013, 09:27 PM
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My gate around 10 feet only don't know DC Moto suitable or not.
QUOTE(lui @ Jun 19 2013, 05:30 PM) After reading the professional comment and information from Jimmy, I will give DC a try if I'm allow to choose again. Because i will extend my gate from now 10" to future 14", if the arm block the folding by 1" then i will remain 12" only after the gate open. Which i think is a main concern for me. If your gate is 20" wide, then waste of 2" to you is nothing. But for my small house, 14" is the max i can give to my gate. |
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jimmylim85 oor anyone else, a bit of advice plz,err can casa asia/dcmoto/MAG gates have all the below?
adjustable hinges 3 point support wif strong arm wider gate openingn why is there a need for adjustable hinges? are there other trackless gate systems for sale besides unigate?i'm quite worried about the sinking tracks n d gate bearings jumping out at d same time,can u also take some time to answer my prev questions -) thanx This post has been edited by ~Curious~: Jun 19 2013, 10:55 PM |
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QUOTE(~Curious~ @ Jun 19 2013, 10:47 PM) jimmylim85 oor anyone else, a bit of advice plz,err can casa asia/dcmoto/MAG gates have all the below? Above hinges and bearing adjustable. It can be done by any iron gate obtaining this type of bearing and hinges mount. Nothing to do with DCMoto or Casa Asia. adjustable hinges 3 point support wif strong arm wider gate openingn why is there a need for adjustable hinges? are there other trackless gate systems for sale besides unigate?i'm quite worried about the sinking tracks n d gate bearings jumping out at d same time,can u also take some time to answer my prev questions -) thanx You shouldn't worry about track-guide folding gate sinking, you should be more worried that UniGate will sink cause is trackless and sole-dependent on the your pillar for weight support. I will response to your question bit by bit. No worries |
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QUOTE(lui @ Jun 19 2013, 05:30 PM) After reading the professional comment and information from Jimmy, I will give DC a try if I'm allow to choose again. No worries, DCMoto 925W works well even 23' length gate.Because i will extend my gate from now 10" to future 14", if the arm block the folding by 1" then i will remain 12" only after the gate open. Which i think is a main concern for me. If your gate is 20" wide, then waste of 2" to you is nothing. But for my small house, 14" is the max i can give to my gate. Don't worry about the gap in folding gate. Good and excellent workmanship will have 8" gap the smallest possible. If they made in 10" still acceptable but the gap leaving 12-15" is total suck! I've install DCMoto with opening gap 16" GOLDEN RULE : DCMoto/CASA Asia have a maximum opening gap space 8" nothing more or less. If exceed then is the iron gate manufacture problem with skill or else you have a curb outside blocking the opening leaf gate. |
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Is is true for OAE folding gate system, only have the function to open both gate at the same time and 1 side [either left or right] only? Even the control board install inside the house also only have 2 buttons.
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QUOTE(weikee @ Jun 19 2013, 07:13 PM) Your gate in inches or feet? Arm or DC motor you still block. When I check few installer DC moto actually larger foot print than arm. Well at least for my case with oae is smaller footprint. Here is your guide of the foot print https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/530387/+1220# |
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