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post Jun 20 2013, 01:02 AM

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QUOTE(jimmylim85 @ Jun 20 2013, 12:58 AM)
Will snap the photo for you by tomorrow.
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thanks...this DC moto keypad looks more techie. http://www.dcmoto.my/v3/technology/the-wireless-keypad/

however, I prefer simplicity like OAE
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post Jun 20 2013, 01:04 AM

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QUOTE(lui @ Jun 19 2013, 04:10 PM)
Hi jimmylim85, if you respond to this thread before i install my auto gate system. I will choose DCMoto already, i am so headache on choosing one of them 2 weeks back.
A lot of installer here in KL still recommend arm type, and I try to survey around my taman and found no one is using DC or CASA type of system.
The information you provided here are very useful, as you are a installer.
A installer in KL here recommend wall mount system from OAE, is stainless steel made claim to be better than DC and CASA. Any review?
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Stainless steel might look eye catching for lots of user, but it induce the most heat inside the tube. DCMoto and Casa Asia, uses cast aluminium alloy.

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QUOTE(Maknusia @ Jun 19 2013, 04:34 PM)
It was my hubby's choice. and you are correct, the casing is plastic as in the picture.

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http://casa-asia.com/s320h.php

our view was that, after sometime (the previous models installed at our relatives homes) the arm movement was not smooth, say after 5-10 years.

with the system that dc-moto and casa has, its gear system with oil filled, hence should withstand longer. we might be wrong, but that was our understanding.
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OAE, DCMoto, Casa Asia and many other arm-type motor uses pre-filled grease inside their gearbox. There is no oil applied as it will leaked eventually.

Only sliding gate type either uses grease or else gearbox oil with gasket inside.
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post Jun 20 2013, 01:05 AM

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QUOTE(zodd @ Jun 20 2013, 01:02 AM)
thanks...this DC moto keypad looks more techie. http://www.dcmoto.my/v3/technology/the-wireless-keypad/

however, I prefer simplicity like OAE
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i like the colours tho =)
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post Jun 20 2013, 01:09 AM

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QUOTE(~Curious~ @ Jun 20 2013, 01:01 AM)
lol owh i tot its some kinda extra feature,actually is not useful when using lol..3 point hige shud be safer kua since the arm is attached to two different panels..maybe more effort needed to pry the gate open..wad r bearing hinges?unigate advertise they got 24 bearings on the gate itself,i dont really understand it now that i think of it
juz now u mentioned of trackless might sink,but unigate got like some tiang in d pillar
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so i think shud be able to bear weight kua...another problem with tracks is the wheels tend to jump oout wor...
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Even they have the whole pillar attach with metal, it only adds more weight and stress to your cement/brick pillar. Safest is concrete pillar but is costly.

24 bearing is meaning the whole gate system requirement. Ordinary swing fold gate system have 16 bearings. Btw more than that bearings only bring more cost to replace them.

The reasons why the wheels tend to jump out of your track!

- bad workmanship on the track, didn't get a well-balanced track mounted on the floor.
- bad workmanship on cement flooring, sinking!
- having small particle like small tiny rocks stuck at your track, causing the wheel to jump out.

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post Jun 20 2013, 01:11 AM

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QUOTE(zodd @ Jun 20 2013, 01:02 AM)
thanks...this DC moto keypad looks more techie. http://www.dcmoto.my/v3/technology/the-wireless-keypad/

however, I prefer simplicity like OAE
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QUOTE(~Curious~ @ Jun 20 2013, 01:05 AM)
i like the colours tho =)
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Here you go.

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post Jun 20 2013, 01:16 AM

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QUOTE(jimmylim85 @ Jun 20 2013, 01:09 AM)
Even they have the whole pillar attach with metal, it only adds more weight and stress to your cement/brick pillar. Safest is concrete pillar but is costly.

24 bearing is meaning the whole gate system requirement. Ordinary swing fold gate system have 16 bearings. Btw more than that bearings only bring more cost to replace them.

The reasons why the wheels tend to jump out of your track!

- bad workmanship on the track, didn't get a well-balanced track mounted on the floor.
- bad workmanship on cement flooring, sinking!
- having small particle like small tiny rocks stuck at your track, causing the wheel to jump out.
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btw im asking in regards to folding gate,coz for 13 ft i think swing looks odd hehe

owh ok that kinda answer d track vs traackless issue for me so far =P but once the tracks sink,how to repair leh?

wad about the opening?can other autogate systems open to as wide as unigate is advertising?
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QUOTE(~Curious~ @ Jun 20 2013, 01:16 AM)
btw im asking in regards to folding gate,coz for 13 ft i think swing looks odd hehe

owh ok that kinda answer d track vs traackless issue for me so far =P but once the tracks sink,how to repair leh?

wad about the opening?can other autogate systems open to as wide as unigate is advertising?
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Track sink, replace it or lifting it up again and weld it back.

Opening of DCMoto 925W. Look at the gap, is as close as UniGate does.

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BTW i've mention a few times, UniGate is using DCMoto 905 motor system. Is 100% the truth. UniGate just manufacture the iron gate system where else DCMoto supplies the motor system. The arm length metal is been custom made to adapt UniGate gate design and requirement.
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QUOTE(jimmylim85 @ Jun 20 2013, 01:25 AM)
Track sink, replace it or lifting it up again and weld it back.

Opening of DCMoto 925W. Look at the gap, is as close as UniGate does.

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BTW i've mention a few times, UniGate is using DCMoto 905 motor system. Is 100% the truth. UniGate just manufacture the iron gate system where else DCMoto supplies the motor system. The arm length metal is been custom made to adapt UniGate gate design and requirement.
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yep u have mentioned..that brings another question to mind:
is dcmoto 925 'arm' as thick as unigate

actually i meant to ask is dcmoto 925W or any other autogate system able to open at an angle instead of straight?like below
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post Jun 20 2013, 01:51 AM

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QUOTE(~Curious~ @ Jun 20 2013, 01:47 AM)
yep u have mentioned..that brings another question to mind:
is dcmoto 925 'arm' as thick as unigate

actually i meant to ask is dcmoto 925W or any other autogate system able to open at an angle instead of straight?like below
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the arm is as thick as unigate does. won't bent unless you bang your gate with your vehicle sad.gif

Opening angle, any folding gate with good workmanship can open as wide as unigate does. What limits the opening angle if your front pillar have sitting curb that obstruct the opening angle. If I have the chance, I'll snap shot the photo the meaning of having wide open angle.
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QUOTE(jimmylim85 @ Jun 20 2013, 01:51 AM)
the arm is as thick as unigate does. won't bent unless you bang your gate with your vehicle  sad.gif

Opening angle, any folding gate with good workmanship can open as wide as unigate does. What limits the opening angle if your front pillar have sitting curb that obstruct the opening angle. If I have the chance, I'll snap shot the photo the meaning of having wide open angle.
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rclxms.gif Plz do =) wads ur take on the MAG Wing mentioned here?
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post Jun 20 2013, 02:07 AM

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QUOTE(~Curious~ @ Jun 20 2013, 02:00 AM)
rclxms.gif Plz do =) wads ur take on the MAG Wing mentioned here?
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http://www.magnet.com.my/products/Autogate..._id_WING303.htm

this one right?

First I look at their control panel.... IMHO yawn.gif yawn.gif yawn.gif

Looks big control panel, lack of features, and no 4 channel remote control operation (you can individual opening leaf on any side you want).

Direct copies OAE design, probably the internals too.

You're way better off settle with OAE 333 with NX12 circuit board if you want to be on budget and arm-type.


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QUOTE(jimmylim85 @ Jun 20 2013, 02:07 AM)
http://www.magnet.com.my/products/Autogate..._id_WING303.htm

this one right?

First I look at their control panel.... IMHO  yawn.gif  yawn.gif  yawn.gif

Looks big control panel, lack of features, and no 4 channel remote control operation (you can individual opening leaf on any side you want).

Direct copies OAE design, probably the internals too.

You're way better off settle with OAE 333 with NX12 circuit board if you want to be on budget and arm-type.
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owh yeah yeah in previous posts got mention the arm got OAE mark

ok thx for ur info thus far..prolly come back wif more questions..now i need to dream abt wad autogate to go for or whether i shud default on my unigate deposit lol
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QUOTE(~Curious~ @ Jun 20 2013, 02:15 AM)
owh yeah yeah in previous posts got mention the arm got OAE mark

ok thx for ur info thus far..prolly come back wif more questions..now i need to dream abt wad autogate to go for or whether i shud default on my unigate deposit lol
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Well is your choice, what's the damage of your deposit?

One bad of having unique custom made iron gate such as UniGate is all the parts is customized and not commercially available. Everything had to refer back to UniGate and prepare to pay premium service price.

Just like BTE LEGATE system. Yearly fee rm 150. And if you missed out two years maintain-ace and on third year you wanted their service. You have to pay previous two years default fee and third year in order to obtain their service. Repair and parts is another fee being charged.
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post Jun 20 2013, 11:12 AM

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Is it suitable for gate width below 10 feet?

QUOTE(jimmylim85 @ Jun 20 2013, 10:58 AM)
Well is your choice, what's the damage of your deposit?

One bad of having unique custom made iron gate such as UniGate is all the parts is customized and not commercially available. Everything had to refer back to UniGate and prepare to pay premium service price.

Just like BTE LEGATE system. Yearly fee rm 150. And if you missed out two years maintain-ace and on third year you wanted their service. You have to pay previous two years default fee and third year in order to obtain their service. Repair and parts is another fee being charged.
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post Jun 20 2013, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(jimmylim85 @ Jun 20 2013, 02:07 AM)
http://www.magnet.com.my/products/Autogate..._id_WING303.htm

this one right?

First I look at their control panel.... IMHO  yawn.gif  yawn.gif  yawn.gif

Looks big control panel, lack of features, and no 4 channel remote control operation (you can individual opening leaf on any side you want).

Direct copies OAE design, probably the internals too.

You're way better off settle with OAE 333 with NX12 circuit board if you want to be on budget and arm-type.
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Thx Jimmy...
But really hope you are active here before i choose the MAG Wing 303...
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I have a question, one of my pillar does not wide enough to screw the entire bracket for the MAG arm. The Installer only manage to screw the 2 wall plug on the pillar, and he screw an additional metal on the floor then weld the metal with the arm bracket to support the arm.
After the install left, i found everytime i open or close my gate, the whole arm bracket and the additional metal screwed on the floor is shaking. Is it normal? I worry one day the whole arm will detach from the pillar, and it's happening on the right gate which I use it to open single side very frequent...
Please help to give some comment.

This post has been edited by lui: Jun 20 2013, 11:28 AM
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post Jun 20 2013, 11:25 AM

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Unigate is able to sell their gates at a huge premium (roughly double the price of an equivalent gate) as they are able to package and market the gate with their unique selling point of being trackless. Nevertheless it's really just a gimmick and as it does not provide any security or reliability benefits.

If you're looking at DCMOTO/CASA-ASIA.. Try to get the installer to demo both unit side-by-side and you can see & hear the difference very clearly.

MAG is a fairly basic gate system, however the company has been around for a while and they are easily accessible in Pudu. i.e. you should not have trouble getting support from them. However I find that even if you go to their head office they will no sell you parts directly as they will refer you back to your regional installer.

If your bracket is installed securely it should not shake.


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QUOTE(jimmylim85 @ Jun 20 2013, 10:58 AM)
Well is your choice, what's the damage of your deposit?

One bad of having unique custom made iron gate such as UniGate is all the parts is customized and not commercially available. Everything had to refer back to UniGate and prepare to pay premium service price.

Just like BTE LEGATE system. Yearly fee rm 150. And if you missed out two years maintain-ace and on third year you wanted their service. You have to pay previous two years default fee and third year in order to obtain their service. Repair and parts is another fee being charged.
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Unique is always more expensive or learn how to self maintain.
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post Jun 20 2013, 11:52 AM

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Hi,

One of the supplier offer me to use Brenorial brand. The price is RM1700.
Anyone have use this brand before? Is it reliable?
Hope some sifu here can give some comment and advice.
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QUOTE(lui @ Jun 20 2013, 11:17 AM)
Thx Jimmy...
But really hope you are active here before i choose the MAG Wing 303...
doh.gif

I have a question, one of my pillar does not wide enough to screw the entire bracket for the MAG arm. The Installer only manage to screw the 2 wall plug on the pillar, and he screw an additional metal on the floor then weld the metal with the arm bracket to support the arm.
After the install left, i found everytime i open or close my gate, the whole arm bracket and the additional metal screwed on the floor is shaking. Is it normal? I worry one day the whole arm will detach from the pillar, and it's happening on the right gate which I use it to open single side very frequent...
Please help to give some comment.
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Seems like a shoddy job. It will break eventually. The arm requires firm hold from your pillar and ground. Push pull need lots stress to withstand.
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post Jun 20 2013, 12:23 PM

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How much is the rough price to install DCMoto for swing gate?

Am looking at model 903..

Just wanna know the estimate..

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