Just to share my experience in KL. I got Perodua to organise for trade-in valuation & I also went on Carsome. Carsome quoted me a price below my expectation, then offer me to place my car on their online auction (you give a target price & they will it put up, if no bid, they will re-auction next round with 5% price drop & they'll do this twice) with no commitments. If there is a bid, you can decide whether to take up or pass. If finally you didn't manage to sell your car, there will be no cost to you. But, if you sell via the auction, they will charge you RM500 if price is less than RM50K, else it'll be RM1K. I gave the auction a try.

Then, I went in to Perodua for valuation (and discuss on the delivery) & they quoted slightly higher than Carsome's quote. After nego (managed to get an additional RM1K), I finally decided to go with the Perodua-arranged trade-in option.

It is Perodua-arranged in the sense that Perodua arranged for a 2nd hand car dealer to buy my old car. But, to the customer (that is me), there is no difference on who is the eventual buyer - I just pass my registration card to them & they go to register an intent to transfer ownership at JPJ website, then, I just pay Perodua the price difference for the new car and when eventually the new car is ready, I just drive my old car to Perodua sales office & the 2nd hand car dealer will come to take delivery of the old car & I took delivery of the new car.

Just to complete the story, eventually, I got a bid from Carsome's online auction and after deducting their service fees, I would have got more for my old car than via Perodua's trade-in (around RM1.5K). But, selling via Carsome means you need to deliver the car to them within 5 days (& they'll pay to you within a couple of days) - they'll take care of JPJ/Puspakom side, just like Perodua's trade-in. So, the hassles for selling to Carsome are: you may need to pay the full amount to Perodua first & you'll have to find alternate transport as you will unlikely be able to get your new car at the same time as delivering your car to Carsome. I decided to go for the trade-in to avoid hassles

Hope the above experience is useful.

Thanks guys, thanks a lot for the feedback, really appreciate it...

Also, the rumour is if you trade-in with P2, you get a preferential queue for getting the - already really hard to get - Alza. True or not, I'm not sure as I didn't personally trade-in myself... considering my old car was tapaued completely

Yes.. my case like that.. as they have locked in the trade in price, so cannot delay too long. I got my car within 1.5 mths. That is last year.. now the que so long, so donno if the same.

Ya, I also hope that the foreman prediciton is correct and able to complete the fix on time. Last week I check, all parts arrived pending for front bumper.
Since parts is already order I presume the process pending for assessor is done... doubt that the foreman dare to order part on its own without insurance approval.
Then after parts all arrived should be start fixing. Now is the middle of 2nd week already.

Hmm... I guess you must be switching around a few cars... so there is a need to get accustomed to different car every time you drive.
For me, switching is quite instantaneous. On certain slow crawling road, I switch it off... On normal traffic light stop I switch it back on.


Oh.. if you have the auto hold activated, even in D, the car will not move. Besides... even if no authold, one will be stepping on break, so it just a feeling, the car generally didn't budge. Unless you release the break and step on the gas.

SC replaced/ tightened the spring opposite the moving part tip.

Now the cover springs open once the tip is retracted by the lever.

Service charge - free.

Quick question, will ecostop start the engine if you move the gear to N WHILE the engine is auto-stopped? Haven't tried this myself so I don't actually know lol, coz I feel like there's no real reason to go to N at a stop while the engine is off

Unless it's a long light stop and my feet is tired la

If you move gear to N the engine will start, even if your foot on brake haven't move at all.

mine too got stuck last week... managed to open it.. will find a day to have it fix.

I actually tested this with Brake Hold on today, and it was interesting.

Brake --> Hold Engaged --> Move from D to N = Engine actually remained in autostop for a bit... before the autostop/ecostop icon disappeared and the engine turned on again. Hold remained engaged throughout.

Compare this to leaving the gear in D, where the engine remained stopped... until the system decides that it needed the engine on again for whatever reason (probably to run the AC compressor), but this is definitely longer than the "a bit" it stayed off when I moved the gear to N. Also the Ecostop icon and Hold stayed active throughout.

Make that as you will, though now it has made me REALLY question the need to shift the gear into N any more with Ecostop on.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Dec 9 2023, 11:21 PM

i think is brake-hold function cancelled after push to N gear. tak logic to hold since there are no moving force from enjin.
and driver may need to roll the car example auto wash machine

Very interesting question. Too bad I don't have my car with me. Still dalam Bengkel. Hopefully get it next week.
Will try and let you know.

This is probably right, and a smart decision for the reasons you mention. Thankfully, a lot of the 'auto' things the system does is pretty spot on (example: Stay in P for a bit longer than usual and EPB auto engages).

That said, I've heard more than once cases where the Auto-Brake is overly sensitive, even emergency braking under flyovers. I haven't experienced it myself but yeah, the "Warning: Brake" does pop up from time to time after flyovers and around sharp corners

Regarding
Brake --> Hold Engaged --> Move from D to N = Engine actually remained in autostop for a bit... before the autostop/ecostop icon disappeared and the engine turned on again. Hold remained engaged throughout.

Hmm... I try. But to me there is no different in autostop engine off time when in D all the way or when in D then move to N.
The engine stop to me solely depends on the cabin temperature and battery power level..
This is just my feeling. I usually observed autostop for about 2 minutes I think.

average is two minit
u dont need to change N gear. since enjin stop its already disconnect from gearbox. else during restart the car pusing terus (impossible)

how to turn on eco mode permanently and turn off eco idle permanently? every time start the Alz need manually do it.

This post has been edited by dewill: Dec 15 2023, 12:30 PM

not sure eco mode
eco idle need install bypass

disconnect ct coil at battery there

If brake auto hold function on while eco idle activated the engine will off while changing gear to N(unless the parameter not meet such as cabin temperature high, steer steering left/right, press hard brake pedal back, low battery charge, blip throttle and etc). I only do this during night because the engine will off much longer compare during afternoon. Also sometime when not change gear to N the car creep front a bit during start back(not everytime).