Ah very easy, I put to point form

1. DIY -> a lot of work (put 90% capital here)
2. TFX -> outsource work (earn less a bit nvm)

Long term plan, finance TFX with profit from item 1 and enjoy life more

i was thinking in this way,...
since you will be "playing" ... 90% capital DIY + 10% in TFXI
if you are playing with RM5000 DIY, then just at that 10% from TFXI to your normal play...it become RM5500 per play

Unlce, you are the 1 who told sup sui. In English means piece of cake. So why you are investing your money in others? There is no guarantee of return from TXFI (Supporters' post). The return is uncertain. I learn a new way of defining calculated risk...

yah something in that direction, eventually tfx is financed only with the profit from DIY, and whatever I get, I get lah. If all goes well i might go to 80/20 split, max I would go is 60/40 and reduce my time looking at charts.

but my strategy is not everyone can follow, coz my tfx is financed with profit from DIY

bro, i think you need to re-read carefully, sup-sup sui can get 10 - 20% means the return from fx trade is high, and to get 10 - 20% is quite common.

i did not say, the process of getting the 10 - 20% is sup sup sui.

Perhaps I shall put it in a more formal language

1. ROI of 10 - 20% is quite common in forex trading

2. Forex trading per se is not an easy task as it involves a lot of analysis in both technical and fundamental.

if i'm not mistaken there is no telegram group for TFXI. so any telegram group is fake btw. probably some other people using TFXI for scamming or whatever

Quote from your wording:

1. if done properly, we are looking at x% gain per trade to hit 7% per 5 week is sap -sap sui
2. the concern is the consistency, you how good also, you don't get the same result all the time, my case is 10 - 20% per month.

Your last post

1. ROI of 10 - 20% is quite common in forex trading

2. Forex trading per se is not an easy task as it involves a lot of analysis in both technical and fundamental.

Your wording: IF done properly, 7% per 5 week is sup sup sui, and the second line your case is 10-20% per month ( not consistent) . ROI of 10-20% is quite common.
Since you did your homework, and you are trading DIY, and getting 10-20% , why invest in a 7 -8% return? Please remember oh, there is no guaranteed return from TXFI ya.

you sub contract a job to other people. that is the example for u

When you sub a job ya,,,,you only pay when your sub-con finish their work. The situation here is you pay your sub-con now and expect they will finish the works nicely and on -time. 2 different things bro

In order to end all doubts....

I would like to suggest that the trading teams at TFX be independent of TFX and allow people to choose the broker they prefer.

This is actually the proper way to do it.

If they are giving such consistent results, I think they have no problem doing that. Because the reputation follows the trading teams and not the broker.

This would also silence the sceptics once and for all.

you buy unit trust you give them money first or they give you profit first?

What if it is really a money game?

New people will look at those 'some people', or on advice of those 'some people', or even misleadingly marketed by those 'some people' as a solid investment

And those new people came late to the game risking their capital in order to give a better life to their loved ones. Instead, the Ponzi collapsed, and their life-long savings are gone. Families are destroyed. Misery and suicide ensue.

Unless the 'some people' give the correct advice or pitch the correct marketing lines:
1. If Triumph FX collapse there is no possibility of a recourse (remote possibility of getting your money back).
2. Triumph FX (managed funds) is not regulated under CySEC but under Seychelles FSA (consensus: weak regulation).
3. As a result of (2), CySEC is not responsible for any dispute via the Financial Ombudsman, neither will investors be compensated via the Investor Compensation Fund (I.C.F). This point has been confirmed by CySEC themselves from my e-mail correspondence.
4. MT4 statements are not equivalent to a proper audit from a 3rd party. (Read the Metaquotes MT4 EULA)
5. Even in genuine trading, the possibility of losing 100% of their capital is real.


Alright, it's actually okay for the 'some people' to invest and reap profit whether it's legal/illegal or real trading/money game.

But I know IBs who promote this as a sure-fire, protected by Cyprus, verified by MT4(as though MT4 is an audit), colanfirm won't go wrong coz already 5/10(?) years investment. Those IBs should be held accountable.

Some of these IBs end game is to pretend to be innocent or play the 'Oh, I'm also a victim' game in order to escape responsibility if the scheme collapses.


Finally, some advice from Bank Negara (Maybe prudent IBs should include this statement in their marketing pitch):

This post has been edited by pcGeeK: Sep 1 2022, 09:53 PM

I can understand, if you eventually go fully 100% into TFXI that can gives you only 7-8% and stop that DIY that can make you 10-20%, then i can understand for by doing this you want to reduce your time looking at the chart.
sort of like wanted a better life while sacrificing the rate of growth of your asset.

But if you wanted max 40% to TFXI and while maintaining 60% for DIY,....then you will still subject yourself to looking at the charts.
example previously if 100% DIY, it needs you to look at the chart
now at 60% DIY, it still needs you to look at the chart, wor.

previously if at 100% DIY, you bet play capital is RM10k,
if now 60% DIY, you bet play capital RM6k,....
i think the time and effort required to read the charts so as to enable you to make 10~20% profits is still the same wor.

why finance your DIY profit into something that will generate you lesser income, when you can finance your DIY profits into what your are currently doing and still will be doing to make greater profits?

ALAMAK, silly me, maybe you have your own "secret" strategy, (not fully disclosing) which i did not manage to read or forsee.

This post has been edited by MUM: Sep 1 2022, 11:44 PM

Apologised for the late response, MUM. Been busy lately.

There are nothing much to argue with scammers and drug addictors. They are always living in their wonderland until the musical chair game over. Then they will hide somewhere and cry. History repeat itself for all FX Scams.

TriumphFX scammers have been educating their drug addictors that Cysec license is the best. NO, it's the worst and cheapest FX license in Europe. Try make a complain that you were scammed, they will send you automated reply and ask you talk to your broker a.k.a. scammer. The fact is TriumphFX bought over an existing company to own the Cysec license by using scammed money from Triumph Global. Seychelles just another toilet paper license that you cant do any shit about it if you got scammed, they moved to Seychelles because they failed the Vanuatu compliance and got black listed. Even a toilet paper regulator black listed them, you can imagine how bad is that.

They also very good in telling lies that the existing TriumphFX has nothing to do with the previous Triumph Global which in fact both are using the same domain and MT4 server. Do these macai know what is MT4 server? We believe they know nothing and only trust their upline blindly.

Regulators do not lie, look at this alert posted on 2015, that's the time they already using www.tfxi.com to scam investors. The same domain can only owned by same owner. Many victims cried losing all their investment to TriumphFX. Withdraw your investment from this FX scam because it is too late. China and Singapore already stopped and investors couldnt get their withdrawal. Only the naive Malaysian still think it's a god. Sad to see Malaysian scamming Malaysian for TriumphFX Singaporean boss.



This post has been edited by DrFX: Sep 2 2022, 04:31 AM

hi bro,

Let me re-phrase in simpler language, although it is not my responsibility to help you understand, which you truly don't understand

1. ROI of 10- 20% is common, moves in the 15m or 30m is huge, hence sap-sap sui can get the 10-20% ROI, hence under tfxi of 7% within 5 week is really common and possible - hence sup-sup sui

2. I have stated clearly, perhaps you did not read or understand, let me rephrase in simple words,
2.1 the process of setting up a trade is not an easy process, even with "homework" done, hence, traders do get tired and wish to outsource the trading the process to third parties
2.2 many professional trader do experience "burn-out" and we regularly joke/complain that we are a slave to our charts, hence, if there is a party who can trade with profit sharing, why not?

3. Of course there is no guarantee from tfxi, that is why, a wise person only commit less than 10% of the trading capital to the likes of tfxi, a riskable ammount
3.1. Of course you may retort again by saying that I have a plan to increase to 30% outsource to tfxi, but hey, I got it from the profit from my DIY trade

Lastly, from here on, the points above are true and final, any querries is just your failure to understand simple facts, and hence deserves no reply

have a nice day!

yeah, lebih kurang like that lah

Bro,

1. you have a profit, then you put it into other channel, as long as it is not your capital, you can risk it

2. your question, "if have 60% still a lot of work, might as well keep 100%, right?" and, "why finance channel with lower ROI vs higher ROI?" 60/40 is just a simple example of a distribution ratio, the actual distribution, a more percise example will be as follows
27 - day trade
3 - high risk investment (tfxi)
10 - mutual fund (yes, I still have mutual fund even if the return is 5% per YEAR)
20 - dividend stock
20 - fd
20 - epf
2.1 perhaps a better way to explain things is the ratio of diy vs high risk as 90/10 to 60/40 will be easier to understand
2.2, of course, you may re-ask, why increase the portion of the high risk?, this is call risk tolerance, e.g, at 7.2% you get 100% gain within 10 cycles, does it really matters anymore on 2nd year?
2.3. base on 2.2, a careful approach will be put a little bit of risk able $, and wait till end of year 2
2.4 from here onwards whether to add or not, it's simply a matter of decision

3. yes, your ALAMAK is very justified, real information is not disclosed over here, it is just sharing education only lar.

BTW - THIS IS ONLY A SHARING ON THE FOLLOWING PRINCIPLE BUT SPIN INTO A LENGTHY POST

1. Forex trading do generate high ROI, hence 7% in 5 weeks is possible, hence, the following
2. TFXI is a risky game (due to many reasons) - join (or increase the investment in tfxi) only if you have the risk tolerance (e.g riskable amount)

DISCLAIMER
1. FX trading is a risky and tough job - don't do it unless you have the necessary education
2. Financial planning is also a complicated process, no forum post can adequately explain it all

Well said. Uncle.

I woinder how good your are when you don't know a simple word in Finacial Industry: Diversifying. Even a kakak working in the investment floor pantry knows that.
Diversifying is a very good move, but it doens't means to put your money into a scam. And FYI, since you invested in Mutual Fund, Mutual fund did offer a very high risk investment.

Are you ok? Your reply seemed very inexperienced with life on the general basis.

1. A regulated reputable broker will not " NOT REPLY " you. Try it with any regulated registered broker in Malaysia. That is why " regulated " is important.
2. Unexperience? It's inexperience. What is an " experienced " investor with TFXI ? There should not be any " experienced investor with TFXI. You are not investing in TFXI. It should not be. It was advertised as " FOREX ". You are not investing in TFXI. You are using the service of TFXI only! TFXI does not control forex. Privacy breached? How did BOB STONE get anyone's private data? From a website? Then that website was the one who has violated PDPA. If BOBSTONE manage to get it from some black market, then he has invaded people's private data. If BOBSTONE got it from some other website that published someone's data, go talk to that website. You seemed very very inexperienced with logic overall.