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post Aug 31 2022, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(ruztynail @ Aug 31 2022, 03:33 PM)
well.. i cant automate my decision making without precision. you;d need a software for that.. and i have emotions attached to my decision every single time... because it involves money which i earned... that detachment is something only a BOT has.

if it was a human behind the controls, by the time i check all the boxes... it would have been too late.. the graph will be moving the other way round.

anyways you;d need to experience it yourself 1st hand... cant be taught.. try etoro demo account.
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YES, really very difficult to have discpline to stick on to a decision when if human emotion can get in its way.
thus if discpline cannot be maintained, thus possible gain/loss cannot be predicted of maintained too

thus will using a FM to do it better than our ownself, since that FM would probably had a super computer to helps him make the decision that is fast and without the emotion attachment?
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post Aug 31 2022, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Aug 31 2022, 03:42 PM)
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not necessary... like i mentioned bfr.. BOTs do minute trades.. and sometimes it can screw up too.. like what happened to Terra.

humans do "longer trades" they can hold for much longer and their basis are based on market fundamentals. or quick opportunities e.g.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/08/26/powell-warn...-inflation.html

after his speech, which was blatantly negative.. market reacted negatively (downtrend) for a good 6 hours. say you;d miss the 1st 3 hours cause of the resistance stick. there is still plenty to make in the 4th to 7th hour of the market.. FMs... will go for these trades... they either go in for long... or are opportunists..

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post Aug 31 2022, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(ruztynail @ Aug 31 2022, 03:48 PM)
not necessary... like i mentioned bfr.. BOTs do minute trades.. and sometimes it can screw up too.. like what happened to Terra.

humans do "longer trades" they can hold for much longer and their basis are based on market fundamentals. or quick opportunities e.g. 

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/08/26/powell-warn...-inflation.html

after his speech, which was blatantly negative.. market reacted negatively (downtrend) for a good 6 hours. say you;d miss the 1st 3 hours cause of the resistance stick. there is still plenty to make in the 4th to 7th hour of the market.. FMs... will go for these trades... they either go in for long... or are opportunists..
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ok,...thanks for telling,...

can a bot be programmed to go for longer trades too instead of quick opportunity (like you mentioned minute trades?)

since "FMs... will go for these trades... they either go in for long... or are opportunists."....so the actual outcome is also not predictable,...even having sticked to a well learnt disciple then? except maybe the preprogrammed stop lost limit?
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post Aug 31 2022, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Aug 31 2022, 03:57 PM)
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Kk i think you are going in depth d.. i dont have all the answers as i am also new to this too. GOOGLE is your friend, try reading up.
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post Aug 31 2022, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(ruztynail @ Aug 31 2022, 04:09 PM)
Kk i think you are going in depth d.. i dont have all the answers as i am also new to this too. GOOGLE is your friend, try reading up.
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thanks for chatting,...
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post Aug 31 2022, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(Anythlng @ Aug 31 2022, 12:07 PM)
Hahaha I don’t care are they going to believe me or not, like I said earlier, I am not promoting TFXI, thus I don’t have to prove anything to these strangers. Some of the people here don’t even know how this scheme run, yet they do a lot of assumptions and keep bashing with wrong understanding on TFXI. Maybe I can help to feed these guys some information,

1) this is a high risk high return scheme, the consistency of past results from the traders doesn’t guarantee their future performance, if your upline didn’t mention this when they introduce you this scheme, you might need to reconsider your friendship with him/her
2) the mlm elements on this scheme is quite minimal, I saw some people mentioned that upline will receive 15% from downline investment capital, this is bullshit. If you manage to get a new downline, you will get only about 4-20 USD per 1000 USD capital based on the profit they earned, and you will only receive this after cycle closing, which will need 5 weeks
3) all my so called downline approach me themselves, I don’t even bother to explain this whole things to people unless they are my friends, and I always ask them to google everything about TFXI before they decided to join, including study what people said on the forum as well
4) you have full access to your own account, you don’t need to inform your upline if you are going to withdraw your capital/profit or not, I don’t understand why people here keep mentioning upline will threaten downline from doing withdrawal, you are not a baby, no one can force you to do anything you don’t want
5) there’s this function to do internal transfer within the account holders, thus buy and sell among the investors is quite common. Both seller and buyer get better exchange rate when they do this way with mutual agreement on the exchange rate, and seller manage to receive the money immediately. Platform withdrawal takes time and need to bear the intermediary bank charges ( I sold 1k USD to my friend with 4.5 exchange rate, while the exchange rate from withdrawal is only 4.35)
6) the bank in beneficiary name is always different, the way they do this is quite similar when you do cash out from gambling websites, if you are not comfortable to this then better don’t bother to join
7) all my friends received their withdrawal within 7 working days, I saw the reviews on trust pilot as well and I don’t know why they are unable to receive their withdrawal

It doesn’t matter if people going to believe what I said or not, since at the end of the day, I still earning the profits of RM15k - 20k each cycle, too good to be true, huh? Once again, I am not promoting this scheme, there’s quite a lot grey area and no one knows how long this can last. I use the profit I gained from here and start doing my own business few months ago, it helps a lot on improving my life. If you think this is fishy, please don’t join.
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Your point number 2. I think you missed out something. I remember if recruit 5 or more downline with total investment more than USD 40k, your income will be much more. Details I cannot remember. Maybe those invested here can clarify.
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post Aug 31 2022, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(Gratitude2022 @ Aug 31 2022, 04:25 PM)
Your point number 2. I think you missed out something. I remember if recruit 5 or more downline with total investment more than USD 40k, your income will be much more. Details I cannot remember. Maybe those invested here can clarify.
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Yes there is 4 different tiers with different requirements to receive such commission, I have more than 5 downlines and more than 40k USD total investment under me, yet the commission is still less than 20 USD (commission is depends on the cycle profit) per 1000 USD from your new recruit. Many investors don’t bother to do the recruitment since you will need to waste a lot of time to “convert” people but gain very little commission
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post Aug 31 2022, 05:21 PM

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Well, after lurking around here for quite some time. I can see that there are many posts that involve "emotions".

I myself participated in this so-called "scheme" too, I invest for just the sake of another income. I too invest in stocks. Just to diversify my portfolio.

It's true that you will earn more if you have "downlines", the same goes to the insurance industry/ Amway, you named it. Insurance industry wouldn't get bashed so badly if they are not recruiting eagerly. I guess it's how the industry works, you wanna earn more? Either recruit downlines or sell more policies.

I didn't approach anyone about this, just close friends of mine will ask about my portfolio and I told them. They will listen and ask for information, I didn't force them to join or anything, if they are not interested, then it's fine.

All that said, it comes down to due diligence. Research more about it before "investing". The same goes for buying a product, why would you compare one product with another? And the world just not only has TFXI, there are a lot of investments method out there.

So yea, it's good to have a one-self perspective. There's no right or wrong, it's up to how the viewers digest it. Peace guys.
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post Aug 31 2022, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(Anythlng @ Aug 31 2022, 05:03 PM)
Yes there is 4 different tiers with different requirements to receive such commission, I have more than 5 downlines and more than 40k USD total investment under me, yet the commission is still less than 20 USD (commission is depends on the cycle profit) per 1000 USD from your new recruit. Many investors don’t bother to do the recruitment since you will need to waste a lot of time to “convert” people but gain very little commission
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Sure ka. Itu guy told me his upline upline upline earns RM 500k monthly mainly by recruiting leh. His own capital USD 3k saja.
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post Aug 31 2022, 05:32 PM

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Uncle personally got do fx trade, and uncle want to say,

1. if done properly, we are looking at x% gain per trade to hit 7% per 5 week is sap -sap sui
2. the concern is the consistency, you how good also, you don't get the same result all the time, my case is 10 - 20% per month

Uncle join tfxi jor, but put not much money only lar, so far looks ok, but uncle remind you all ar,.... things like this cannot put too much one lar.
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post Aug 31 2022, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(Gratitude2022 @ Aug 31 2022, 05:24 PM)
Sure ka. Itu guy told me his upline upline upline earns RM 500k monthly mainly by recruiting leh. His own capital USD 3k saja.
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this one is different one already. if anything this one is blatant scam already. so far what i have and what other people who i never knew then found out they do this also don't have all this recruiting things.

even after i signed up and funded my account my "upline" never even bother to tell me how to "recruit" because there is almost no incentive to do so.
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post Aug 31 2022, 05:33 PM

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initially i found this whole thing to be quite ponzi. i still do actually so i followed this thread.

after seeing so many people against it i must say i'm very invested in this thread right now lol
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post Aug 31 2022, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(Anythlng @ Aug 31 2022, 05:03 PM)
Yes there is 4 different tiers with different requirements to receive such commission, I have more than 5 downlines and more than 40k USD total investment under me, yet the commission is still less than 20 USD (commission is depends on the cycle profit) per 1000 USD from your new recruit. Many investors don’t bother to do the recruitment since you will need to waste a lot of time to “convert” people but gain very little commission
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Totally true, I do the calculation ord, and come to the same conclusion
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post Sep 1 2022, 07:24 AM

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QUOTE(Duperaider @ Aug 31 2022, 05:32 PM)
Uncle personally got do fx trade, and uncle want to say,

1. if done properly, we are looking at x% gain per trade to hit 7% per 5 week is sap -sap sui
2. the concern is the consistency, you how good also, you don't get the same result all the time, my case is 10 - 20% per month

Uncle join tfxi jor, but put not much money only lar, so far looks ok, but uncle remind you all ar,.... things like this cannot put too much one lar.
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hmm.gif wondering what is your reason of saying that?

looking at your results ...you can get 10 -20% per month, thumbup.gif thus that 7~8% per month from tfxi should be safe.
hmm.gif could it be also same like what i feared most? that "anytime can burst" factor?

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post Sep 1 2022, 08:39 AM

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QUOTE(Duperaider @ Aug 31 2022, 05:32 PM)
Uncle personally got do fx trade, and uncle want to say,

1. if done properly, we are looking at x% gain per trade to hit 7% per 5 week is sap -sap sui
2. the concern is the consistency, you how good also, you don't get the same result all the time, my case is 10 - 20% per month

Uncle join tfxi jor, but put not much money only lar, so far looks ok, but uncle remind you all ar,.... things like this cannot put too much one lar.
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Hello, uncle, since Sup sup sui, why not do it yourself? You are doing better woh, 10-20% per month. The sharing from others is only 7 - 8% ?
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QUOTE(Don Salvatore @ Aug 31 2022, 12:33 PM)
For Point No.3, if not mistaken there are very few brokers that allows Internal Transfer. But there are also top reputable brokers like Interactive Brokers allows such mechanism. Shouldn't be a problem if its allowed by regulators.

For Point No.6, I think its the same as other offshore brokers including those Top-Tier Brokers. I'm using eToro & Pepperstone for trading & everytime when I request for cash out, there will be a 3rd party beneficiary bank (Some Technology Engineering Accounts) that will bank in to me. I believe its a similar method used by other brokers like TFXI etc.
But those wood-ruler critics will say its not a 'Proper' way of withdrawing cause their mind is as hard as ruler. Must have 'Proper' beneficiary name etc.
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I do business on ebay since 10 years ago before Paypal comes to Malaysia and now left Malaysia. Earlier years, my withdrawals cannot go directly into my bank account. It can only transferred to my credit card account as a credit for spending. After a few monthds, i guess, after Paypal established an office here in Malaysia. I can withdraw my moneies directly to my bank account. The transaction was under the name of Paypal and Paypal took a +-4.5% of fees from your withdrawn amount. Bank took a RM3 in lower than RM400 withdrawal. Over RM400 no fees from the bank.

Since paypal left Malaysia at the end of 2019, Ebay partnered with Payoneer to received payment for certain countries to easily receive funds associated with their transactions on Ebay. My withdrawal is by a 3rd party company who name ended with SDN BHD. The withdrawal period is way faster than when with Paypal. I received my money less than 24hrs while Paypal always took 2-3 days to arrive at my account. And oh ya, they did missed out a few of my transactions over the years where I need to go online to get the 6 digits code to be entered while I call them. The cust servicer are always different, mostly from overseas even though the number you called is a local number (03-xxxx xxxx).
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QUOTE(Sherman Kong @ Aug 31 2022, 05:21 PM)
Well, after lurking around here for quite some time. I can see that there are many posts that involve "emotions".

I myself participated in this so-called "scheme" too, I invest for just the sake of another income. I too invest in stocks. Just to diversify my portfolio.

It's true that you will earn more if you have "downlines", the same goes to the insurance industry/ Amway, you named it. Insurance industry wouldn't get bashed so badly if they are not recruiting eagerly. I guess it's how the industry works, you wanna earn more? Either recruit downlines or sell more policies.

I didn't approach anyone about this, just close friends of mine will ask about my portfolio and I told them. They will listen and ask for information, I didn't force them to join or anything, if they are not interested, then it's fine.

All that said, it comes down to due diligence. Research more about it before "investing". The same goes for buying a product, why would you compare one product with another?  And the world just not only has TFXI, there are a lot of investments method out there.

So yea, it's good to have a one-self perspective. There's no right or wrong, it's up to how the viewers digest it. Peace guys.
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This so called "investments" by txfi is not really transparent at all. Seems all data could be manipulated.

In mlm world, we called this money games, and it can be exist in various forms, like durian farm investments, gold, forex etc
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post Sep 1 2022, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Sep 1 2022, 07:24 AM)
hmm.gif wondering what is your reason of saying that?

looking at your results ...you can get 10 -20% per month,  thumbup.gif  thus that 7~8% per month from tfxi should be safe.
hmm.gif could it be also same like what i feared most? that "anytime can burst" factor?
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it's impossible to audit tfxi, so, you put some money, but don't put too much, if it is real, then you make some money, if it is fake, you lose a bit of money.

10 - 20% DIY forex is very tiring, not all ltd or stop order is accurate, in most cases I monitor on 5 minutes or 1 minutes chart and use market order to close

TFX actually is like my outsource fx trading agent.
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QUOTE(BC3232 @ Sep 1 2022, 08:39 AM)
Hello, uncle, since Sup sup sui, why not do it yourself? You are doing better woh, 10-20% per month. The sharing from others is only 7 - 8% ?
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actually hor, uncle still DIY, but tiring lah, everyday look at chart.

7 - 8% is like if you got 100k, you put 10k onli lar, and you target to earn back the 10k via DIY fx trade, then let tfx run on it's own lor

this is called calculated risk.
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post Sep 1 2022, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(Duperaider @ Sep 1 2022, 02:57 PM)
actually hor, uncle still DIY, but tiring lah, everyday look at chart.

7 - 8% is like if you got 100k, you put 10k onli lar, and you target to earn back the 10k via DIY fx trade, then let tfx run on it's own lor

this is called calculated risk.
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i could be wrong, but i think he meant to ask why use that part of the money to earn 7~8% when you can use that same money to earn 10~20% yourself?
just add that additional money (used for that 7~8%) to the pool of money that you are using to trade yourself?


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