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post Aug 17 2022, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(Gratitude2022 @ Aug 17 2022, 12:10 PM)
Actually I am curious about this too. I did ask those investors. They told me triumphfx never started in china. The China truimphfx is a scam. Malaysia also got their own version of truimphfxmalaysia scam. A lot of TFX telegram account are not endorsed by truimphfx and could be scam.
That's how they answer people now.
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Malaysian TriumphFX scammer: Looks like me, sounds like me, talks like me, but NOT ME! laugh.gif
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post Aug 17 2022, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(Lazyguy1337 @ Aug 16 2022, 10:05 PM)
Triumpth is peanut compare to MBI those days, what I lost I treat it as a life lesson, feel pity imagine those aunty uncle that lost all their life savings/ EPF money/ Children education fund etc

mostly not so educated ones but got cash. They got duped into it I mean the promoters literally take you go and see their "Investments" unlike TFXi, MBI had offices, buildings, hotels, malls even

some "yellow" involve if you what I mean, sure those aunty uncle believe it's legit. At least Teddy now kena ady karma won't let him go
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I disagree you say mostly not so educated. In fact, people around me who are talking about this in fact are all well educated. And I found out that the more well-educated, the more easier they fall into this kind of Ponzi scheme. The reason, I think, is that they all think they are more clever than the people who are running it.

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QUOTE(MUM @ Aug 17 2022, 11:13 AM)
Thanks for telling.

Mind sharing why would the user buy from another user when he can buy directly himself?
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I think the simple answer is, that they got "commission" back when there is a downline. So instead of investing 1k USD, they are putting in 800 USD ( my guess).
Another reason may be when hit a certain target, the next commission tier will go higher, or a trip to Cyprus...

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post Aug 17 2022, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(BC3232 @ Aug 17 2022, 03:42 PM)
I think the simple answer is, that they got "commission" back when there is a downline. So instead of investing 1k USD, they are putting in 800 USD ( my guess).
Another reason may be when hit a certain target, the next commission tier will go higher, or a trip to Cyprus...
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So it is the upline that do all the buying? If they did not buy from triumphfx but money were just transfered to them.
Did not go through triumphfx official buy/sell which did not allowed triumphfx earn the usd100 withdrawal fees and expects triumphfx to gives the uplines "commissions"?? 🤔
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post Aug 17 2022, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Aug 17 2022, 04:54 PM)
So it is the upline that do all the buying?  If they did not buy from triumphfx but money were just transfered to them. 
Did not go through triumphfx official buy/sell which did not allowed triumphfx earn the usd100 withdrawal fees and expects triumphfx to gives the uplines "commissions"?? 🤔
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Multiple MLM scheme uses these method so the payment become individually managed and not the main culprit. This is about forex so it gets a little tricky. I rmbr back in Lampe Berger days, they do not give " cash " as my friend showed me the money he earns monthly, but it is in Lampe Berger proprietary point. He claimed 1 point is equivalent to RM1, so if he as 30k point this month in earning, he also earns RM30k.

This leads to a mechanism of transfer from one user to another user in form of points while the main top tier do not need to be bothered. At the same time, it is a pyramid discount method in directly selling scheme. If I buy 1 lamp, the lamp is RM500 if I buy 100 lamp, the lamp is RM200, so each lamp I sell at RM500, I earn RM300. The more I store, the more I earn in margin for each transfer. Then the lure of pride comes in, when they call people who commit one shot of say 1000 lamp, we call them some honorary names like " Emporer " or whatever the donkey. So now they feel they are rich. So he will now become the main stockist having a disribution channel of his own. Now he becomes an " entrepreneur " because now he runs his own business and manages distributor. He takes the highest risk but at the same time also the lowest if the scheme is early. Because owning so many lamp, most sale are purchased from his stocks.

The founder of the company already wash hand the moment he found 100 " emporer " . Any compensation, management of fund, talks, seminars, will be managed by emporers while he collects and store money.


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QUOTE(Zeuscronus @ Aug 17 2022, 05:30 PM)
Multiple MLM scheme uses these method so the payment become individually managed and not the main culprit. This is about forex so it gets a little tricky. I rmbr back in Lampe Berger days, they do not give " cash " as my friend showed me the money he earns monthly, but it is in Lampe Berger proprietary point. He claimed 1 point is equivalent to RM1, so if he as 30k point this month in earning, he also earns RM30k.

This leads to a mechanism of transfer from one user to another user in form of points while the main top tier do not need to be bothered. At the same time, it is a pyramid discount method in directly selling scheme. If I buy 1 lamp, the lamp is RM500 if I buy 100 lamp, the lamp is RM200, so each lamp I sell at RM500, I earn RM300. The more I store, the more I earn in margin for each transfer. Then the lure of pride comes in, when they call people who commit one shot of say 1000 lamp, we call them some honorary names like " Emporer " or whatever the donkey. So now they feel they are rich. So he will now become the main stockist having a disribution channel of his own. Now he becomes an " entrepreneur " because now he runs his own business and manages distributor. He takes the highest risk but at the same time also the lowest if the scheme is early. Because owning so many lamp, most sale are purchased from his stocks.

The founder of the company already wash hand the moment he found 100 " emporer " . Any compensation, management of fund, talks, seminars, will be managed by emporers while he collects and store money.
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I think triumphfx is not like lambe berger.
Lambe berger has products... The founder sell all the products those "emporers"... Who would hv obtained the stocks from the founder to sell to their downlines.
Triumphfx does not sell products. The uplines has nothing to sell to the downlines but perhaps this...
it is for the uplines "to buy it" so as to gives more benifits to their down lines and their newly joined family members..... "See, I will helps you save 100USD for each withdrawal".
You trusted me, I will helps you. Go spread the words. Come join me, to save and earn more.
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QUOTE(BC3232 @ Aug 17 2022, 03:39 PM)
I disagree you say mostly not so educated. In fact, people around me who are talking about this in fact are all well educated. And I found out that the more well-educated, the more easier they fall into this kind of Ponzi scheme. The reason, I think, is that they all think they are more clever than the people who are running it.
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agree with u, my upline friend's upline are very educated and can talk english very geng , they have professional job last time too, although now they oredi quit since they making 100k a month from TFXI or more now laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

they also tell me some famous socialite in klang valley also is using tfxi as a passive income, or supplement income.. even show me some IG of some TFXI investors. those are the early investors that took the risk, and i think they also got extra money they can throw away just for this platform, but all no regret, since they making how many hundreds of % more with interest compound after many, many years.. rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(flautist @ Aug 17 2022, 05:55 PM)
agree with u, my upline friend's upline are very educated and can talk english very geng , they have professional job last time too, although now they oredi quit since they making 100k a month from TFXI or more now  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

they also tell me some famous socialite in klang valley also is using tfxi as a passive income, or supplement income.. even show me some IG of some TFXI investors. those are the early investors that took the risk, and i think they also got extra money they can throw away just for this platform, but all no regret, since they making how many hundreds of % more with interest compound after many, many years..  rclxub.gif
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100k per month from TFX?? You must be kidding me. Do you believe that he can earn 1 million ringgit risk free by doing nothing every year? Even some public listed companies can't make it. TFX can be the largest company in Malaysia. LOL. Those uplines can really blow hard.

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There were 35,000 people who invested in the biggest gold scam in the country.. Genneva gold... Just this one scam alone.
https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/just...eposit%20taking.

Recently reported, a manager of a bank in Kuala Lumpur was among the latest victims who lodged a police report after falling for a Macau scam ruse, losing RM605,000
https://www.thesundaily.my/local/bank-manag...mmers-IF8986857

So I believes that educated people can get scammed too. As I believes everyone is a "potential victim" of scams. There is no one single tactic used by scammers to lure their victims.

Those that has surplus money would hv more probability of being scammed of money when compared to those that hardly hag enough money to spare or to eat expensive meals.

Those that has surplus money will think that it is just some money that they can afford to lose.
They did not put in all the have into it. Just "some" money.


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QUOTE(koaydarren @ Aug 17 2022, 06:26 PM)
100k per month from TFX?? You must be kidding me. Do you believe that he can earn 1 million ringgit risk free by doing nothing every year? Even some public listed companies can't make it. TFX can be the largest company in Malaysia. LOL. Those uplines can really blow hard.
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yes, is the truth, he show me some calculations in excel spread sheet, he say i don't scared coz this is abnormal, but this how some people can live so comfortable and travel/buy rolex.. this is friend of my friend drive lux car hahah...

i don't know how true is it but he say some people making so much every month they need bank account at oversea, and malaysia is ban or blacklist TFXI because it bring out too much cashflow, TOP secret money making that's why it is not widely advertised bruce.gif drool.gif drool.gif
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QUOTE(flautist @ Aug 17 2022, 06:46 PM)
yes, is the truth, he show me some calculations in excel spread sheet, he say i don't scared coz this is abnormal, but this how some people can live so comfortable and travel/buy rolex.. this is friend of my friend drive lux car hahah...

i don't know how true is it but he say some people making so much every month they need bank account at oversea, and malaysia is ban or blacklist TFXI because it bring out too much cashflow, TOP secret money making that's why it is not widely advertised  bruce.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif
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I have nothing against this investment, and my friends also invested in this scheme quite heavily when they see some returns. As long as they are aware of the risks, it should be fine.
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post Aug 17 2022, 07:17 PM

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QUOTE(koaydarren @ Aug 17 2022, 06:26 PM)
100k per month from TFX?? You must be kidding me. Do you believe that he can earn 1 million ringgit risk free by doing nothing every year? Even some public listed companies can't make it. TFX can be the largest company in Malaysia. LOL. Those uplines can really blow hard.
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If my assumption (about the profit sharing terminology) and calculation (as shown) are right, then....

In post 403 mentioning that there was a 60:40 profit shares in triumphfx.
60% for investor while 40% goes to the trader in triumphfx.

If at 60% profit shares he can get 100k ROI in every 5 weeks cycles.
That means 100k divided by 60 = 1666 per 1%, thus 60 + 40 =100% =1666 x 100 = 166 666 (total Earned before profit shares ratio division)

If 100k ROI is the usual 7-8% ROI
Triumphfx need to generate 166 666 so that that investor gets 100k = 7-8% ROI

That investor would need to invest 1.3 million so that he can get 104k = 8% ROI.

Truimphfx need to make 166 666 from 1.3 mil, or 12.82% every 5 weeks cycle.
Or 128.2% every 50 weeks (1 year) cycle

From this 12.82% or 166 666, 104k goes to that investor so that he can make 8% ROI.

Just hope that the above profit sharing terminology n calculation are correct)





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post Aug 17 2022, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Aug 17 2022, 05:49 PM)
I think triumphfx is not like lambe berger.
Lambe berger has products... The founder sell all the products those "emporers"... Who would hv obtained the stocks from the founder to sell to their downlines.
Triumphfx does not sell products. The uplines has nothing to sell to the downlines but perhaps this...
it is for the uplines "to buy it" so as to gives more benifits to their down lines and their newly joined family members..... "See, I will helps you save 100USD for each withdrawal".
You trusted me, I will helps you. Go spread the words. Come join me, to save and earn more.
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1. Withdrawal from triumph to bank, the charges are by banks, TT charges & commision if withdraw in usd.

2. Internal transfer between buyer/seller - Buyer save on exchange rate - RM / SGD to USD. (TFX is on Alert List in both countries - it's easier to get the intended money into his/her acct in TFX by buying internally) Seller - benefit already known - faster money in, better rates, no TT or commision.

3. KARMA - i hope those keep mentioning karma dont go to genting to gamble. Because the money one wins is not Genting's money. Its someone else losses.

4. Joining TFX is a gamble - gambling with money is the least risk of all (of course if possible, i still hope to make money out of it), as every smart/correct/stupid decision we made in life is a bigger risked gamble.

5. To those that playing/joined/invest/gambling in TFX, good luck to you guys.

6. Those that are against, peace.


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QUOTE(MUM @ Aug 17 2022, 05:49 PM)
I think triumphfx is not like lambe berger.
Lambe berger has products... The founder sell all the products those "emporers"... Who would hv obtained the stocks from the founder to sell to their downlines.
Triumphfx does not sell products. The uplines has nothing to sell to the downlines but perhaps this...
it is for the uplines "to buy it" so as to gives more benifits to their down lines and their newly joined family members..... "See, I will helps you save 100USD for each withdrawal".
You trusted me, I will helps you. Go spread the words. Come join me, to save and earn more.
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The 100 USD withdrawal fee is a tactic making "investors" hesitate to withdraw.

1st cycle: Not enough to cover withdrawal fees
2nd Cycle: only earn 5% return may be waiting for another cyle
3rd Cycle: after deducting the withdrawal fees, let's withdraw everything and earn a 15% return. OR let withdraw the interest 1st.

They will let you successfully withdraw for the 1st time, so you can invest more.






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post Aug 17 2022, 08:51 PM

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As long as members are exchanging funds with each other, the platform can still keep the money within their grasp.
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QUOTE(BC3232 @ Aug 17 2022, 08:43 PM)
The  100 USD withdrawal fee is a tactic making "investors" hesitate to withdraw.

1st cycle: Not enough to cover withdrawal fees
2nd Cycle: only earn 5% return may be waiting for another cyle
3rd Cycle:  after deducting the withdrawal fees, let's withdraw everything and earn a 15% return. OR let withdraw the interest 1st.

They will let you successfully withdraw for the 1st time, so you can invest more.
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As per discussed recently, .. The usd100 can be by passed. Thus there is no hesitation of investors withdrawal
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QUOTE(ApekMiddleAge @ Aug 17 2022, 08:21 PM)
1. Withdrawal from triumph to bank, the charges are by banks, TT charges & commision if withdraw in usd.

2. Internal transfer between buyer/seller - Buyer save on exchange rate -  RM / SGD to USD. (TFX is on Alert List in both countries - it's easier to get the intended money into his/her acct in TFX by buying internally) Seller - benefit already known - faster money in, better rates, no TT or commision.

3. KARMA - i hope those keep mentioning karma dont go to genting to gamble. Because the money one wins is not Genting's money. Its someone else losses.

4. Joining TFX is a gamble - gambling with money is the least risk of all (of course if possible, i still hope to make money out of it), as every smart/correct/stupid decision we made in life is a  bigger risked gamble.

5. To those that playing/joined/invest/gambling in TFX, good luck to you guys.

6. Those that are against, peace.
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There is a different between gambling and scamming.
If you go to genting it is your known plan, known actions and known expectation of possible results.
If you joined a scam unknowingly, you have no idea of what you walked into.
If you joined a red flag warning of a scam scam, knowingly and willingly, you have ideas and expectation of what you walked into.


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QUOTE(MUM @ Aug 17 2022, 08:53 PM)
There is a different between gambling and scamming.
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Yes, its different but then the commoners that playing/investing/tikam/gambling in TFX like myself is not the scammer.

So dont karma the messenger, we, the commoners are just like those going to genting casino and 4D shops (so stop buying 4D/6D/TOTO if wanna talk about karma because the winning is also millions of malaysian losses) to try our luck.




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QUOTE(BC3232 @ Aug 17 2022, 08:43 PM)
The  100 USD withdrawal fee is a tactic making "investors" hesitate to withdraw.

1st cycle: Not enough to cover withdrawal fees
2nd Cycle: only earn 5% return may be waiting for another cyle
3rd Cycle:  after deducting the withdrawal fees, let's withdraw everything and earn a 15% return. OR let withdraw the interest 1st.

They will let you successfully withdraw for the 1st time, so you can invest more.
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if monthly withdrawal is usd5k to 10k it's not an issue though
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QUOTE(ApekMiddleAge @ Aug 17 2022, 08:59 PM)
Yes, its different but then the commoners that playing/investing/tikam/gambling in TFX like myself is not the scammer.

So dont karma the messenger, we, the commoners are just like those going to genting casino and 4D shops (so stop buying 4D/6D/TOTO if wanna talk about karma because the winning is also millions of malaysian losses) to try our luck.
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The bad karma is for those planning or promoting schemes to scam people.
Not those that kena scammed.

Unless those kena scammed had earlier "Belittle/scolded/laughed/etc/etc" on those that tried to show him that he maybe on the wrong path/group... In this case the bad karma is just having lost their money/dreams/hopes / relationship with those that they had asked to join in.

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