Depends on your brain la, if bad in physics and chemistry and add maths then go take acca la, don't listen to your parents do engineering and end up can't even graduate. Everyone have their role and specialty in society

I don't think ACCA is that hard compared to engineering math.

Engineering background can take up acca easily.

Then anjingliar Vs accountant who earn more on average . Y I always see njingliar machem complain bout celery but not accountant

If rly want study for celery then u need either join illegal gangster or legal gangster aka government.

Else will never get rich

Do you really care which is harder?

You only care which will bring you more money in future.





Answer: none

Is shitty
Don't waste time going in.

Just IT jer

Different form of difficulty.. Both difficult in it's own way

engineering is an applied science in real world.

in my book, engineering can do anything except those that need mouth and tongue.

U compare apple vs banana.....

Then women anjingliar no good waifu

this.

more like theory vs hands-on.

if you can get into good uni with a lot of resources to learn, then engineering is ok.
most of the engineering here focus on theory and people ended up graduating with weak foundation for the real world.

ACCA, just focus on theory and do the work.....

I think getting a professional IR title is harder than ACCA and is also rarer. But if it's just getting a B.Eng and then work in an MNC where they call you an engineer then that's much easier.

i dont know about acca but for engineering if you do your assignments properly and study for your exams can already

This post has been edited by butterkijen: Jun 5 2021, 09:18 PM

U have Never Sit For acca So dont act You know

Bullshit. You know How tough is acca.

Read from where.. Accountant job gonna obsolete

inbe4 because best brains mostly take medicine and engineering.

only until recent years that science stream students are taking accounting

Finance is where the money's at.
Accounting is very boring.

Engineering > acca

But overall companies need more engineers than accountant

Engineer creates ;
Accountants maintain

Make a choice.

engineers possible to take accountancy as elective subject

u got c any accountant take engineering subjects before? lol

anyway how hard your course is does not equivalent to how successful u will be in life

I have seen many engineering grads change their career after grad and take ACCA/ICAEW and step into financial world.

CPA Australia is even easier than ACCA/ICAEW.

But you never see accounting grad change course to engineering. It is because the technical math in engineering is killing the accounting student.

If you interested in physics and maths/science ofc you will do well in engineering, if you are sensitive and attentive to statistics and figures then you will do well in ACCA. Both depends on your personal interest.

depends if you smart or not

Both doesn matter. Today as evidence suggest ..knowing who or having good cable is more important than education itself


Even if you are uneducated, as long cable kuat...you will make money and future is good. It can be better but risk sprm coming after you

lol. so triggered. must be acca holder.

I think ACCA is not that hard especially now you can take 1 paper at a time. Look at the number of sohais that have it.

Cima is worse, after degree just take 1 paper can liow kek

ACCA in Malaysia has not much value anymore since TAR college and Sunway started producing industrial amounts of graduates. It only matters if you don’t have it once you got it you are like tens of thousands of others. Nothing special.

u wan easiest and earn a lot of money,.. then go law or politic for major,.. self strangling theory of suicide also can be presented in court by our lawyer,.. dog bites my hand can delay an hearing,..

ACCA is easy , but work wise is just hours and hours of climbing the ladder
Engineering is ok , but work wise is how good are you in managing people

Have u ever wonder why accounting principles is for art stream students?

Be a boss. All skill applies.

Engineering harder because usually the class is sausagefest

I grad chem eng, do a bit of accounting and now accounts payable, no engineering job experience but as studies/course goes it depends you what kind of person. If you like numbers, understand how thing works and relate, can understand basic formula and hafal a bit, you can study both acca or engineering. Imho I got okay on eng because no need to remember every law in acca syllabus

If bodo ambil ACCA... engineer nanti kang habis bangunan, lebuh raya runtuh sbb calculation silap

Engineering harder, thats why I looking into accounting, i confess i bodo and not interested.
Kena scam took science stream at school, else i study architecture.

Engineering is high level math.. differential and integration.

If you really want to compare the difficulty based solely on how complicated is the mathematic; my answer is engineering. The difficulty of add math in engineering course easily kill those best students. While on the other hand, ACCA is pretty much tolerable even for students from the lower grade classes. Based on my observation, most of the students in the first class during my high school is doing engineering. Those in the third class and below went for the accounting. It telling the difficulty there.

Anyway, like many has said. Both courses are in their own world. They are both useful to the society. Of course if you final goal is to make money, you may as well join gangster and do some illegal business. But my true heart will say, your life shouldn't only revolves around the money, there is always better thing for you to sacrifice than making money. Only when only you found the 'better thing', you will appreciate your life better.

Ask yourself. Add math and basic math which one is difficult?

Theres a reason why engineering is known as one of the hardest course. And to become an engineer2 with PEPC is much2 harder.

I know each and every course have it own challenge. And if u are a genius u can choose any course u like.

But courses like engineering, medical so on and so forth have a very high requirements to enter. And theres a reason for that.

I see those injineering from sampah uni easy only

What's the sampah uni maybe they just want to show off they are smart, studying engineering sap sap sui but actually work like tired ayam behind.

but to be the best in your field, is different setori than the paper's difficulty

The easier one is the one you have an aptitude for.

So, it depends.

Engineering is harder coz you have both theory and practical. You might be excel in engineering theory but if you cant design, build or fix stuffs u r pretty much useless in industry.

Accounting is more on practice and hard work. If you hard work in accounting you will go far.

Anyhow accounting is easier to earn more money. You got ACCA already can earn 5 figures after few years. Also can easily make side income freelancing. In next 10-20 years accounting job might be less demanding as AI is catching up and more automation.

Meanwhile Engineering depends on industry, if u in manufacturing u can see light at the end of tunnel when u r 40s. If u in Energy, OnG or Telco u pretty much will be T20 bracket before 40. But most engineering job in Msia is kuli level.

I hear acca got quota One.

Even How Good u r. If quota meet all Balance straight fail

Only possible to know if a person has both taken a good engineering degree and also later sat for ACCA exam....I think engineering math is more “dead” whereas in accounting, there are some scenarios that made you confused which figure to use... the math in accounting is of course simple .. just plus and minus but the choice of which figure to use or include under different scenarios can be confusing

nowadays education is so commercialised that if you have money, you can do any course and graduate

where got people dropout nowadays lol unlike last time bill gates etc

Because engineering in Malaysia isn’t really engineering. More like tech support and sales and project mgmt.

This post has been edited by diffyhelman2: Jun 5 2021, 11:45 PM

I would say engineering being an engineer. But i've never taken an ACCA paper nor do i know engineers who took one, so its presumptuous to say engineering is tougher than ACCA. Besides i think most ppl take ACCA part time while juggling a 9-5 job.

Dont compare, do what you like. Goes without saying you smarter you got more options

DP

This post has been edited by 9m2w: Jun 6 2021, 12:01 AM

I did a Bachelors in Accounting & Finance (finished top 1%), now just finished one of the professional accounting exams (not naming here because I'm easily doxxed).
I even won an award for one of their papers. Am working in Big 4 now. I usually score in top 5 percentile for most exams I take.

I'd say that ICAEW is much more difficult than ACCA.
I know someone who is taking ACCA now after failing several ICAEW papers.
I would say that ACCA is only tough because many Tom, Dick and Harry enroll in it for the money.

Engineering math is much tougher than normal math.
I took Further Math during A-level but mechanics was too difficult for me to comprehend.
Dropped it in the end.

Meanwhile, I picked up Accountancy during A-level with ease despite coming from pure science background.
Still managed to win 2 awards from Cambridge.

If u can understand 1+1=2 or simple arithmetic maths , then u can do accounting.

It a career that pays an above average pay without putting too much effort or be exceptional.
As long as u can follow instructions and perform the required task. U r good
Work life balance depend on company.

This post has been edited by kendo88: Jun 6 2021, 12:08 AM

During my degree engineering course back in those days we were made to take accountancy subjects as well.
I managed to score over 90% back then and it was among the easiest subjects in my engineering course.

While I agree with you that Engineering is tougher, but I disagree with this statement.
Accounting students cannot go back to science stream even if they suddenly became smarter and can understand engineering math easily.

Are you sure it's accounting? Maybe bookkeeping like double entries or Introduction to Accounting whereby just prepare balance sheet and P/L?
Real accounting is more complex than that but still not as complex as engineering.

This

To this day, I have nightmares of having to go for my Eng Maths exam tomorrow and knowing nothing

Or any of my EM Theory Exams

The scars it gave me makes me still remember some of the equations, constants and laws.

Still i give ACCA students their props. My wifes got her ACCA. She does shit in her field that I would struggle too

Yes but then no. ACCA has more headache formula to remember for some while engineering are mostly tangible with some electronics. Female & those love sitting in office go ACCA. For engineering, if you're in MY, have to check which field engineering first coz some fields like automotive would land yourself in blue collar salary range.

Engineering is kinda like the Nights Watch from GoT, a thankless job most of the time.

You want fame. glory. riches, bitches, get something else. Odds are you do something great no one knows or cares. You make ppl's life easier but they wont know you're there.

Of course some fields does bring in the money but these days with the proliferation of grads its becoming the outlier.

I stupid, so end up become engineer.

If you think mechanics is difficult wait till you encounter fluid dynamics or electromagnetic theory.

This post has been edited by diffyhelman2: Jun 6 2021, 12:21 AM

I wasted my 20s studying engineering, thought it paid off when I managed to graduate with Dean Commendation List from a top major Australian university which placed me in better position than even Yeo Bee Yin back then.

Came back to Malaysia to find a job closer to my parents and my first starting salary was just slightly above RM3k?

Competition is intense and STEM demand in Malaysia is low.

Actually all the struggles and hardship learning those calculations they're rarely utilized in the real working world.

Even my senior colleagues who are brilliant staff engineers in the Silicon Valley admitted that what you learned in school rarely gets utilized on the job.

I got First Class but it was a local U.

I attended Management Trainee interviews for a few PLCs and GLCs but didnt cut it, settled for a job that paid 1,700 in 2000. It was stiff back then even with a limited pool. I can only imagine now

But hey you got offered more than 3K thats nearly twice mine hahah

Actually i think what you learn, the tough stuff do serve a purpose. Its to weed out students without the aptitude for engineering from taking up or graduating from it. Harsh but look where we are now. Too few jobs for too many engineers

This post has been edited by 9m2w: Jun 6 2021, 12:32 AM

Yeah. But it’s a filter. And kind of a point of pride and masochism for those who are good at it. Unless you are going to pursue academia in one of those scientific fields, then it is really relevant. For most normal jobs, no need.

Yeah probably basic accounting, I admit totally forgot most of the advanced calculations I learnt back in university already today.

It's totally very different approach once you get into the working world. Kinda wasted if you asked me.

Out of all the engineering graduates that I know over the years, 95% of them are now doing something totally unrelated e.g. sales, websites, grab and some jobless. None of them had a sterling career despite having more than 20 years of working experience. The same can be said of the remaining 5%.

On the other hand, those who did accounting or even some general shit like business, are the high flyers.

take the money all in crypto, by the time your friends finish graduate, you already millionaire.

unker do what wan can goyang tulur everyday in /k... come give newbie here some life lessons to follow.

I admit! If you were to ask me to solve those questions back during my engineering course time now I barely can remember anything out of it unless I undergo a refresher course.

I'm surprise... no one even ask... what kind of engineering degree are we talking about here..


seems like a lot of people don't even know what are they even talking about...


Aerospace engineering and electrical engineering are hard...

Mechanical engineering... environmental engineering... etc. these are easy as hell degrees.... especially if it is not caltec/standford level.... their final year project is just rehash of shit already exist... farking degree mill jer

Engineering: e = π = 3 😏
Assume air resistance is negligible.

This post has been edited by oe_kintaro: Jun 6 2021, 12:38 AM

Perhaps it’s not just the course? For eg, ppl here who are book smart but kayu ppl gravitate towards the engineering course. The not book smart but good eq end up in acct. hence you see the biz and acct grads high flyers.

you ask wrong person for advice la mapren

unker keje goyang tulur and keybod only

Microelectronics E&E.

I don't know how I went into Optronics from there.

Im kinda surprised with some of the name of the subjects dropped here and there you couldn't figure out what the degrees were. Man of your talents

Some of my cousins graduate with masters in Engineering but ended up in the banking industry
No girlfriend or chance to meet girls because probably less than 5 in the class..

I wouldn't really pit one against another when it comes to EQ or comm skills. Most accountants are kayu and some are screaming banshees with regards to EQ.

Deswai I wouldn't really say which course is harder, or that one attracts better people. Too broad a topic.

But but lots of engineering students end up as forever-alones unlike some popular courses where by the time they graduate they're already in steady relationship close to marriage after a few years into their jobs.

That is probably because engineering students are mainly in a male-dominated faculty/industry. Less probability to meet girls.

Accounting firms are a lot easier to meet girls because they are stuck in the office with you 7 days a week and can’t meet any other guy. Either way no reason to be a forever alone in the Tinder era no mattter what your job is.

inb4 new course - accounting engineering & engineering accounting.

True. The ratio of females to male is like 1.5 to 1.
No reason for guys to be single

1.5 to 1?
It's 10 to 1

TS can clarify which engineering?

There are some courses out there that are titled engineering but not really the mainstream engineering kind like software engineer, disney's imagineering, etc (can't remember but there are some course that just slaps on the title engineering to attract people)

The difficulty level are miles apart.

accountant teach engineer to automate accounting.. very soon most accountant job obsolete.. only handful left to stamp approval AI computation.

Wrong question.

A pianist may find engineering hard and vice versa. It all boils down to what you are good at. Some good at math. Some good at literature etc.

Engineering + acca/CFA = deadly combo.. These guys are super smart.. Easily beat the arts stream student who do ACCA..

If smart people do difficult course, and less smart people do easier course, both will find the difficulty the same. Sorry, just being philosophical.

Tiam. Aku x nak dengar realiti.

Can a qualified engineer adapt to accounting?

Vice versa, can a qualified accountant adapt to engineering?

My coursemate in e&e engineering took up acca part time. End up graduated both in the same year

Bull....my former lecturer got his ir cos he knows the board member & interview is just for the formality nyia...but he is competent to begin with and now sits comfortably as a non independent director is a large local company. Bet he wont bother renewing his Ir.

Ghayyy

Only those who lack of knowledge in the route of getting PEPC says its difficult, don't bullshit the masses, its pretty easy with the right experience & nature of work you're doing.
Does having PEPC makes you more employable? Not really..There are some PEPC whose out of jobs now. Thats why I didn't bother even to proceed with tier-1 Ir application what more tier-2 (PEPC). PEPC is useful if you're working in consulting firm or running your own consultation firm. 80% of the time, in contracting line, not useful at all.

Plus who wants to hire an engineer with PEPC when you have loads of normal engineers who can multitask & having dynamic experience not just in engineering works, but tendering & management.

Out of context, I did civil engineering in uni & being doing civil engineering related works > 10 years now and slowly running own business together with my sister which is an accountant with ACCA.

This post has been edited by DuFfz: Jun 6 2021, 09:33 AM