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Is Engineering degree harder than ACCA?
 
Yes [ 157 ] ** [40.15%]
No [ 46 ] ** [11.76%]
Cannot compare, both have their own difficulties. [ 188 ] ** [48.08%]
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DuFfz
post Jun 6 2021, 09:31 AM

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QUOTE(SuperGampang @ Jun 5 2021, 10:45 PM)
Theres a reason why engineering is known as one of the hardest course. And to become an engineer2 with PEPC is much2 harder.

I know each and every course have it own challenge. And if u are a genius u can choose any course u like.

But courses like engineering, medical so on and so forth have a very high requirements to enter. And theres a reason for that.
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Only those who lack of knowledge in the route of getting PEPC says its difficult, don't bullshit the masses, its pretty easy with the right experience & nature of work you're doing.
Does having PEPC makes you more employable? Not really..There are some PEPC whose out of jobs now. Thats why I didn't bother even to proceed with tier-1 Ir application what more tier-2 (PEPC). PEPC is useful if you're working in consulting firm or running your own consultation firm. 80% of the time, in contracting line, not useful at all.

Plus who wants to hire an engineer with PEPC when you have loads of normal engineers who can multitask & having dynamic experience not just in engineering works, but tendering & management.

Out of context, I did civil engineering in uni & being doing civil engineering related works > 10 years now and slowly running own business together with my sister which is an accountant with ACCA.

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post Jun 6 2021, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(Darkripper @ Jun 6 2021, 09:43 AM)
PEPC is funny in a sense that you're testing back the most fundamental stuff that people no longer practice (At least for civil, where the team touches on hydraulic, structural, geotechnical, traffic, etc), since they've specialized into a few core area.

The fundamental exam should be open right after degree, not after you get your PE.

Furthermore, there is no crackdown on people abusing the "engineer" title. I've seen people with no qualification doing the exact design job as those with a recognized degree.

Yet BEM thinks that having a more tiered system will improve the industry.
There are a gazillion shit that is wrong with engineering in Malaysia, yet the governing board just minum kopi and fight with IEM once in a while  biggrin.gif
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Exactly! better test the competency of graduates upon graduation, bet most can straight away qualified for Ir minus the experiences which I think is possible judging on how some university lecturers who manage to get Ir title without having practical experiences lol.

BEM is always sleeping when it comes to abuse of engineer title. Seriously even the biggest MNC so called engineers did not registered for BEM & some with management degree given the operation engineer title. lol.

BEM only interested collecting fees.
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post Jun 6 2021, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jun 6 2021, 09:52 AM)
i agree with you.

i am an engineering GM and i employ accountants. I can do some of their work. Understand the fundamentals of accounting and financials.
But they have no way of understanding fundamental engineering principles.
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Don't discredit them for we did not sit & do their job full time, we just have that view we understand the fundamental then we assume its easy and we can do it.
If it's easy why don't we do it ourselves right?
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post Jun 6 2021, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(Darkripper @ Jun 6 2021, 09:45 AM)
one wrong won't bring the building down.

Need plenty of wrongs.

Safety Factor is our savior! Combine more factor to have even more robust design. Can't trust the guy doing job on the ground  tongue.gif
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Accountant does wrong will cost the company money also brother.
Don't look down or assume its easy. Each have own roles to play.
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post Jun 6 2021, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(Darkripper @ Jun 6 2021, 10:03 AM)
BEM is just a glorified board acting as if they're governing the industry.

I think they came up with PEPC just to open up 1st tier PE to boost the number of Ir in the country since we need more qualified engineer. But yet, plenty of Ir with questionable quality in the industry, even within big names consultant. I've bashed plenty of those so-called PE during design review process, and it is fun.

Interview process for PE is also questionable, i know some of the famous PE will fails candidate if they're never involved in big project (What the heck, you're testing technical knowledge, not project experience). Its a fuck-up place to be man.

I've since moved on from this industry tho, hope it will do well for you. At least try to get some recognition, can try ICE (but its expensive as fck) or even IStructE (hard as fck on their exam).
Nerds or not, its the person's personality, nothing to do with their academics.
it is not that simple brader, look at how many building collapses we have (Dont talk about temporary structure as there are tonnes of loophole on that shit and authority is doing absolutely no shit on this issue), those that are within 5 years after the construction period.

Do not mix maintenance and design fault together.
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Nah man, I'm done with these BEM Ir stuffs..I'm going to electrical lines, got my 3 phase wireman competency done & next will be chargeman.
Kinda enjoy electrical stuff this past 2 years.
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post Jun 9 2021, 08:09 AM

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QUOTE(Darkripper @ Jun 6 2021, 10:12 AM)
Good that it works out for you eventually. I forsee I might be back to do these tradesman lines after retirement.
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Take it while still young. Kinda require some heavy works especially for 3 phase practical training.

 

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