FnHon is kinda popular lately. for about rm3k u can either get a sora groupset or a tiagra (add abit more)

get a 406 wheelset, you'll have more tyre choices to play with

I'm ok with the flat bar but I want to know how come foldies come with mix groupset of mountain and road stuff?

Also can i change everything to shimano or say campagnolo?
- chainring
- cassette
- RD
- FD
- shifter?

i am not sure about campagnolo…

but of course you can use shimano from tourney to ultegra. foldies mostly using rb parts.

foldies we just dump whatever parts that's working best for the wheel size. does this explain to your question?

chainring u might need to change the whole crankset since foldies normally using 130bcd. 52/39 or 52/42 is common for 20-incher.

cassette wise some of here even using custom 11-18t…but mostly 11-28t, 11-25t, 11-32t, 11-36t depends on your terrain, wheel size, single or double chainrings setup too.

RD if 16-incher must use short-cage.

FD no need worry…plenty of mod parts even if your frame don't have the FD mount.

shifter just need to check the compatibility to your RD.

are you come from rb and need a smaller bike to travel around?

This post has been edited by BOTAK_WAI: Jun 2 2021, 08:55 PM

ermmm super confusing...

I'm not very gear oriented. i just need something with good road bike feel, reliable and very connected type.

so say i get a tern d9

can i

Chainring - I wouldn't bother i just get the ultegra crankset can? 50-34t

Cassette - ultegra 11-34t?

RD- ultegra

shifter - not sure. rd shift dont go with flat bar. i want flat bar

going from rb to foldie for quick cardio. not much time nowadays. rb i use to bring to some place and cycle for hours. probably won't even consider clips.

d9 is using hydraulic disc brake right?

why not just get the tern verge p9 and save all the time and hassle to mod? If you can afford, look at Tern BYB S11, smaller footprint.

if u want road bike feel…better look for Pacific Reach.

but seriously…when you compare 451 with 700c rb, u will feel the size not much compact…better just ride rb. expectation vs reality is cruel. that's why many people bought bigger size folding bike eventually go back to rb. when you are having a folding bike that is not compact enough for portable, and it's not as fast as road bike, then you know what i mean.

my personal ideal size for folding bike:
1. Exocet Flying Fish with 406 wheelset
2. Fnhon Zephyr with 349 wheelset
3. Brompton or Pikes with 349 wheelset
4. Dahon K3 with 305 wheelset mod (3 speed 41T : 9-1317T)
6. Fnhon Breeze with 254 wheelset with schwalbe big apple tyre (single speed 41T : 9T)

This post has been edited by BOTAK_WAI: Jun 2 2021, 10:41 PM

"but seriously…when you compare 451 with 700c rb, u will feel the size not much compact…better just ride rb. expectation vs reality is cruel. "

good question. thinking about it

1. i need a new bike, my rb parts are not upgradable. i've change riding style from long distance to hill climb and simple cardio
2. foldie other people can use too. sister and dad for example
3. more likely to ride as i can fit in car easily compared to rb. my rb also delicate. tubular high profile are annoying.
4. don't like rb crouch over anymore. got to do alot of yoga stuff.

downside - can't get the rb feel and regret big time

i would stick to 451 rather than 20.

thanks for info.

if stick to 451 then go with 1 3/8 profile tyre.

Why not both?

I have both RB and foldie. Actually the foldie is my wife's, but she hardly rides it anymore, so I kinda took over riding it. Spent some money changing some parts and now I have 2 bikes to alternate with

possible.

can i ask for foldie. what groupset you can put on it to climb hills? prefer one brand and range groupset. don't want to mix.

not sure about modding groupset but the Altus came stock on the foldie. i only changed the cassette ratio to 11-32 from 11-28 but maintaining 8-speed. but not long after the shifter went bonkers and considering the cassette still new i bought another 8-speed shifter.

on hindsight i should have gone with a 9-speed shifter and swap to a 11-32 9 speed cassette, one extra gear so lesser jump between gear shift. The RD can support so it doesnt need to be changed.

Current stock crank is a 52/42, i have another 53/39 ready on hand. smaller small crank should allow me to climb easier. but havent have the time or need to get it swapped yet

based on your requirements

105 groupset la

50/34T

11-30T

Foldie I'm thinking of has 9 speed shifter

1. 11-36T Cassette - no need change I think. 36T should be enough right?

2. 53 crank only - Single track. I'm think of changing to dual track. Heard rb crank won't fit. Have to buy taiwan? Any good brand to recommend and what size? what's the diff 53-39 and 42 46?

3. Wheels suggestions?

So I want to go for hill (comfortable in genting sempah. i can do genting sempah quite comfortable on 11-28t 53/39) but straight can average 28 30km/h on cadence 70?

SHIFTER(S):
Shimano, trigger, 1 x 9 spd
REAR DERAILLEUR:
Shimano Acera, Shadow RD
CRANKSET:
Forged 6061-AL, 53T
CASSETTE/FREEWHEEL:
11-36T, 9 spd
BOTTOM BRACKET:
Cartridge, sealed bearings
CHAIN:
KMC 9 spd

FRONT BRAKE:
Shimano, hydraulic disc
REAR BRAKE:
Shimano, hydraulic disc
BRAKE LEVERS:
Shimano, hydraulic disc
BRAKE CABLE & HOUSING:
Shimano, hydraulic

budget i'm ok up to 7 8k.

This post has been edited by nonexno: Jun 4 2021, 08:14 PM

Does this mean that I have to customize? I am not pro to change parts so i rather they come out of the box.
If that's the case, which would be ideal?

you are worrying too much…just go get a tern and ride.

go find harry pay or pay kok guan…he will settle for you…just pay money will do.

guys, newbie here.
just wanna ask, what is fun about folding bike?
i know is convenient to store and take out to park...but how does it compare to normal bike?
RM3k for a folding bike can buy a very good street bike edy...

if size is not a problem…then go for rb or mtb.

the gist of fb is you can bring it along with you to go everywhere…even when tyre puncture you can just fold it and take a grab go home.

for speed calculation, you guys can always refer to my post on last thread

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4391857/+3720

riding fb will unlikely match the speed of rb even with same gear inches calculation, it's because of the aerodynamic and the wheel momentum.

if you need average speed above 30kmh u better go for rb.

like our otai kenc said, if anything more than 40kmh, better get a kapcai.

but is quite heavy right?
i tried to lift the Reebok folding bike coz about RM1.3k, i guess, and it quite heavy to me.
izzit those RM3k is much more lighter?

yes. that's why people go for fnhon custom build. around 9-10kg for 20"

for folding bike route…

bangsawan eventually will get a birdy or brompton

performance guy will go with tern and mod it

enthusiast will go with fnhon custom build best bang for buck

mainstream safe bet will be dahon midrange and above



This post has been edited by BOTAK_WAI: Jun 4 2021, 09:14 PM