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guy3288
post Jun 13 2025, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(1mr3tard3d @ Jun 13 2025, 04:47 PM)
the 8.1 unit is the referral bonus RM 10

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thanks for your calculation

so it seems there is no time lag for my deposits done in morning
deposit on 7.5.25 invested same day 7.5.25 although updating takes 2 days

anyone knows the deposit cut off time to make sure money invested same day?

Versa is paying basic return 3.98% thumbsup.gif
without referral bonus and quest

The Quest return is tricky
it may not be as good as we thought
due to restricted amount and time period
entitled for that rates

but i dont understand

1. the last part with capital reduced to RM104700 ?
ok got it now (x7 + x28)/35... thumbup.gif

2. That 29.5.25 Reinvestment 181.50 units
dont understand how to apply the 0.0025
0.0025 x units = 224.14 units?

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post Jun 13 2025, 06:37 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Jun 13 2025, 05:52 PM)
Versa is paying  basic return 3.8%  thumbsup.gif

but i dont understand the last part with capital reduced to RM104700
that 3.98% and 4.05% returns are actually lower right?
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3pm according to Versa

well, we know what the returns were between any period in the past but we won't know what the return will be
April 2025 was 3.59%

RM 104,700 is the weighted average of RM 80,700 (7 days) and RM 110,700 (28 days)
(RM 80,700 x 7 + RM 110,700 x 28) / 35

another perspective would be
RM 80,700 - 35 days @ 3.97% p.a.
RM 30,000 - 28 days @ 4.01% p.a.
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post Jun 13 2025, 07:03 PM

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QUOTE(1mr3tard3d @ Jun 13 2025, 06:37 PM)
3pm according to Versa

well, we know what the returns were between any period in the past but we won't know what the return will be
April 2025 was 3.59%

RM 104,700 is the weighted average of RM 80,700 (7 days) and RM 110,700 (28 days)
(RM 80,700 x 7 + RM 110,700 x 28) / 35

another perspective would be
RM 80,700 - 35 days @ 3.97% p.a.
RM 30,000 - 28 days @ 4.01% p.a.
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your calculated return 3.8 - 4 is good enough,
worth parking while waiting for Ganjaran 1%

how about that 0.0025 x 89646 units = 181.50 units only?
this part i still cant figure out.-...
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post Jun 13 2025, 07:11 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Jun 13 2025, 07:03 PM)
your calculated return 3.8 - 4 is good enough,

how about that 0.0025 x 89646 units = 181.50 units only?

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my point is "Past performance is no guarantee of future results" lol.gif
distribution = 0.25 cents per unit
89,646.98 x RM 0.0025 = RM 224.12
RM 224.12 / RM 1.2348 ~ 181.50 units
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QUOTE(1mr3tard3d @ Jun 13 2025, 07:11 PM)
my point is "Past performance is no guarantee of future results" lol.gif
distribution = 0.25 cents per unit
89,646.98 x RM 0.0025 = RM 224.12
RM 224.12 / RM 1.2348 ~ 181.50 units
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for investment 3.8% yes too low
better buy bonds 7.0%, fixed

parking money 3.8% gd enuff
likely to beat KDI 4.0%
when campaign + in later

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post Jun 13 2025, 10:13 PM

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bro from your spread sheet
i tried use similar logics from the last 2 lines to calculate
for this New account with Welcome bonus 3%

Start Sunday - 11.5.25 deposit RM1000

17.5.25 noted RM1000.16 , 809.45 units

19.5. Monday morning add deposit 86.7k

21.5.25 RM87700.57, 70949.41 units

28.5.25 Ref Bonus RM10 =8.1 units
29.5.25 Reinvest RM177.37 = 143.64 units

6.6.25 RM87881.02, 71101.15 units
autodebit RM1200 completed 6.6.25

6.6.25 RM89081.02 , 72071.95 units

11.6.25 Welcome 3% RM27.45 =22.19 units

Today 13.6.25 is Total RM89166.03 , 72094.14 units

How accurate is this simple method?

Cost RM88900, profit RM266.03

take 3 periods
RM1k 11.5.25 -18.5.25 = 7D
RM87700 19.5.25 - 5.6.25 = 18D
RM88900 6.6.25 - 11.6.26 = 5D

total days =30D
total profit RM266.03
Spread out capital for 30D = RM67670

errors corrected

Return = (226.03 266.03 x365/30)/67670
=4.78%

minus welcome RM27.45
return =3.57%
mistake above
actual should be (238.58 x365/30)/67670
=4.29%

minus RM10 and RM27.45
return would be 4.11%



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1. see picture
Sunday Deposit completed same day also???
Versa would calculate our units based on Sunday price?

2. Fresh fund Quest +2% upto max RM300k is paid for how many days?
in above example how would the +2% be calculated
and for how many days??

Rm1k x 2% 11.5.25 till 30.6.25
RM87700 x 2% 19.5.25 till 30.6.25
RM1200 x 2% 6.6.25 tiil 30.6.25??

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post Jun 14 2025, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Jun 13 2025, 10:13 PM)
Cost RM88900, profit RM266.03

take 3 periods
RM1k        11.5.25 -18.5.25 = 7D
RM87700  19.5.25 - 5.6.25 = 18D
RM88900  6.6.25  - 11.6.26 = 5D

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1. see picture
Sunday Deposit completed same day also???
Versa would calculate  our units based on Sunday price?

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what you attached is the summary of the transaction
when you clicked into the transaction details, it would show the date of submission, processing & completion
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i have no idea how the quest work
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post Jun 14 2025, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(1mr3tard3d @ Jun 14 2025, 11:16 AM)
what you attached is the summary of the transaction
when you clicked into the transaction details, it would show the date of submission, processing & completion
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i have no idea how the quest work
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thanks bro.

So even without Bonus RM10 and RM27.45
return is a good 4.11%!! thumbsup.gif


put in that Bonus RM10 and 27.45
return is 4.78% thumbup.gif

conclusion - Versa is better than KDI

surprisingly similar to what i calculated
despite using 30Day period and
only RM67670 base.

maths is interesting....
it has adjusted my 30D with a smaller base hmm.gif

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post Jun 14 2025, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Jun 14 2025, 03:15 PM)
thanks bro.

So even without  Bonus RM10 and RM27.45
return is a good 4.11%!!  thumbsup.gif
put in that Bonus RM10 and 27.45
return is 4.78%  thumbup.gif

conclusion - Versa is better than KDI

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is that without any quests?

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QUOTE(Optizorb @ Jun 14 2025, 03:21 PM)
is that without any quests?
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raw data all there..
got time please study it in case we missed out some thing

so far i see it
is without quest bonus
that 4.11% surprisingly good
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post Jun 20 2025, 03:10 PM

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If I withdraw Versa cash on Monday before 9am; roughly when will the funds be credited to my bank account?
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post Jun 20 2025, 07:32 PM

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QUOTE(Barricade @ Jun 20 2025, 03:10 PM)
If I withdraw Versa cash on Monday before 9am; roughly when will the funds be credited to my bank account?
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Versa cash get next business day around 2pm
Cash i get in same day by 11pm+
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QUOTE(genesic @ Jun 20 2025, 07:32 PM)
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not labubu…nope tq
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Ahh crap just made a deposit then only remembered Friday is a public holiday..

The deposit only completed on Monday 30/6...
Means wont get any interest for it from today till Monday right..
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QUOTE(Optizorb @ Jun 25 2025, 02:27 PM)
Ahh crap just made a deposit then only remembered Friday is a public holiday..

The deposit only completed on Monday 30/6...
Means wont get any interest for it from today till Monday right..
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not necessarily
versa cash cutoff is 3pm, so quite likely had been processed yesterday
which means would have bought at the NAV of 25/6
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QUOTE(1mr3tard3d @ Jun 26 2025, 11:21 AM)
not necessarily
versa cash cutoff is 3pm, so quite likely had been processed yesterday
which means would have bought at the NAV of 25/6
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Does the date of processing determine when interest starts accruing? I always thot it was the date the transaction is completed which, for a online transfer in, is 2 working days later. Based on the examples given in the website.


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post Jun 26 2025, 10:08 PM

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Submit for Versa Cash withdrawal on 25.06 9am
Funds credited today evening
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post Jun 26 2025, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(Barricade @ Jun 26 2025, 10:08 PM)
Submit for Versa Cash withdrawal on 25.06 9am
Funds credited today evening
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Agreed, withdrawal is T+1. That is specified in the T&C.

But deposit is T+2.

Question is when interest starts accruing on deposits. hmm.gif T+2 I believe

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post Jun 27 2025, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(BWassup @ Jun 26 2025, 06:30 PM)
Does the date of processing determine when interest starts accruing? I always thot it was the date the transaction is completed which, for a online transfer in, is 2 working days later. Based on the examples given in the website.
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if u read carefully, T+2 (completed date) is the day that your cash in would be reflected in Versa account
(the Versa balance in app is always lagged behind anyway)

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could check the statement and would realise that the NAV of converting cash-in to units was based on processing date instead of completed date

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