Their SN750 very good performance and that is with DRAM.

their dramless SN550 not bad what…

Performance just like any other DRAM-less SSDs.
I think people buy it because of it's well known brand instead of it's technology.

hmb uses system memory as replacement of built-in dram in nvme drives. it still depends on things like manufacturers to implement it right, and how the ssds are used. there are things that are physically unavoidable, like latency compared to local built-in dram. of course, the outcomes might not be obvious if the scope is just for typical consumer usage.

tbh, we all want good ssds at lower price. however, innovations for dram-less ssds are ok, if and only if they can provide relatively sustainable performance as ssds with dram.

yes. that's the point.

what consumer want? fast and big storage at lower price.

how could manufacturer do it? by cost reduction.
what to cut first? of course dram.

wd doesn't produce dram like samsung, to make them stay competitive in the business, flooding mainstream market with acceptable performance dramless ssd is inevitable.

the hmb tech already mature and the performance is acceptable for mainstream market.

the dramless nvme will get better in pcie 4.0 and 5.0.

of course we can't deny that nvme with dram is better…but cost is the key to make it mainstream.

same situation like last time SLC, MLC and TLC nand. people will move on with the tech advancement.

dramless nvme isn't same shit like the dramless sata ssd, what i want to point out is we shouldn't have that "all dramless ssd are junk" name-calling on dramless ssd. cheers!

Would you guys recommend samsung 870 evo over 860 evo? Is the extra $ justified to have the 870?

Now consumer market will learn why tf enterprise customers pay a huge premium for enterprise class NAND and SSD... difference is night and day for same capacity point. Need to look at the DWPD metric.
Basically the NAND endurance levels are much higher for enterprise grade. I foresee there will be a cottage industry among smaller players to plonk enterprise grade nand into standard consumer SSD designs and market them for Chia mining usage

They re cutting down on endurance level. Those new 2nd gen pcie 4 ssd got their endurance chop by half at the same capacity level. All in the name of better speed (at the benchmarks). Real world, you probably won't notice it between a 1st gen pcie 4 vs gen 2.

there is 1 interesting oem nvme ssd from dell.

they cut cost by replacing the controller from gen 4 to gen 3.

samsung pm9a1 under 1tb oem for dell. (2tb is gen 4)

normal consumers won't even think of what's in a enterprise grade stuff. consumer variant of optane series been available since 2017. Sadly it's been discontinued.
they will be turned off once they see the price. But it's crazily godsend type of endurance u re getting AND build quality is superb.

The overwhelming tech superiority of optane had basically evaporated because they couldn't scale cost effectively.

Hi sifus, is the Crucial MX500 still one of the best cost-to-ratio SSD in the market? I plan to get a 500GB, or even a 1TB if the price is right.

Secondly, I assume I still have slot/space for it? mobo is GGB B360M gaming 3, current storage: SSD 250GB, HDD 1TB, HDD 1TB

Thirdly, I tried to google for it but unsure of the answer, can we just simply rename the drive name anytime we want, with all files and folders still work as usual?

yes.

yes.

can.

Typically OEM have the clout to specify what features they wanna add or remove to optimize for the cost / target market. The X box also uses custom ssd not found elsewhere

Looks like bye bye to PNY too.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/pny-xlr8-...most-80-percent

Hi guys if your computer can support both sata and M2.pcie would it make more sense to buy gigabyte, silicon power, kingston PCIE SSDs over Crucial MX500 sata SSD? They are all about similar price ~RM460 (1 TB) on Shopee. Thanks for advice.

Ya, make sense to get PCIE over SATA since it is faster. Also check the warranty period and endurance ratings which one is better.

sata go for samsung 860 evo or Crucial MX500

pcie go for samsung 970 evo or PNY CS3030, transcend mte220s

if u need to clone old hdd/ssd to new ssd easily, choose samsung and use their software.

This post has been edited by BOTAK_WAI: Jun 6 2021, 09:06 PM

TBW for Corsair MP510 dropped as well. I got a feeling SSDs with Phison controllers got false advertising.
https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Pr...#tab-tech-specs

800TBW dropped to 360TBW for 480GB.

just saw a user report about mp510 went bad (from the image, it's just 2.6+ tb total host writes only). maybe it's due to crytomining craze.