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 PS5 Chat tread ver2, 11th December 2020 - MALAYSIA LAUNCH DAY

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echothreealpha
post Dec 3 2020, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(Wijjog @ Dec 3 2020, 09:21 PM)
You guys are really missing the point doh.gif

No matter what it is still unfair for Sony to discriminate customers by giving some of them inferior units, especially when these customers are paying the same price. Everyone should get what they paid for

Stop appeasing, and at least just acknowledge the issue

This is why Sony dont even bother to come clean about it. Because they know even if they choose to cheap-out ya'll still eat it up rolleyes.gif
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Not really inferior. Louder with lower pitch, vs Quieter with higher pitch.

Both fans with different profiles, both good ways to tackle the issue.
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post Dec 3 2020, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(Wijjog @ Dec 3 2020, 09:52 PM)
Im not upset lah tongue.gif

Just dont like the fact that 2 people paid the same price for the same product, but one of them is getting a slightly inferior spec

Also dont like those who just turn a blind eye simply because they belong to the PS camp
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Wouldn't call the other fan (with lesser blades) inferior. Both fans aren't being used to their maximum capability anyway, so at such a low capped speed - the difference is negligible. It's only at higher RPMs where the difference will become more obvious. More over, the fan is cock blocked by the silly panels too.

Just like the PS4 Pro's nidec vs delta fan, I wouldn't say either fan was superior to one over the other either.
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post Dec 3 2020, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(echothreealpha @ Dec 3 2020, 10:50 PM)
Not really inferior. Louder with lower pitch, vs Quieter with higher pitch.

Both fans with different profiles, both good ways to tackle the issue.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Dec 3 2020, 11:05 PM)
Wouldn't call the other fan (with lesser blades) inferior. Both fans aren't being used to their maximum capability anyway, so at such a low capped speed - the difference is negligible. It's only at higher RPMs where the difference will become more obvious. More over, the fan is cock blocked by the silly panels too.

Just like the PS4 Pro's nidec vs delta fan, I wouldn't say either fan was superior to one over the other either.
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Given that all else is equal, a fan that has more blades is more quiet than the one with less no?

Time to list down which type we get come launch day because apparently theres more than 2 types of fan designs

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post Dec 3 2020, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Dec 3 2020, 06:47 PM)
Haha.... getting impatient bro. When I get my PS5 on 11/12, straightaway setup and log on my PS+ account and start downloading games already.  tongue.gif
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8 days to go
Enjoy your PS5, meanwhile I still enjoying my PS4 and wait 3060 TI restock whistling.gif

QUOTE(whatnametoput? @ Dec 3 2020, 07:28 PM)
but if not active ps plus early you miss out Middle-earth: Shadow of War and Hollow Knight .
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But then he will new game for December 2021 tongue.gif
echothreealpha
post Dec 3 2020, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(Wijjog @ Dec 3 2020, 11:24 PM)
Given that all else is equal, a fan that has more blades is more quiet than the one with less no? 

Time to list down which type we get come launch day because apparently theres more than 2 types of fan designs
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Some light reading on why relying on only dBA, is an incomplete measurement for unwanted noise would help you tbh.
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post Dec 3 2020, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(shikimori @ Dec 3 2020, 08:35 PM)
As for the alleged claim how many actually affected and did it affect gameplay in terms of performance or did the console crash ?

If it is working as design which is to play games . Then it is working period. Stop nit picking .
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why should i stop nitpicking? is it hurting your feelings when an inanimate object is being criticised? it was designed in such a way that its massive and heavy, a huge tradeoff from last gen where the consoles were much smaller, but much louder also. and almost every single reviewer out there put an emphasis on the silence of ps5, so when people find out they’re not getting the same components it’s reasonable to assume the noise performance is not going to be the same either

QUOTE(HolyHuman2000 @ Dec 3 2020, 08:52 PM)
The report says the different fan is only louder by 5 decibels.
Unless you play games with your ears next to the console, you shouldn't have an issue.
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iit must be pretty significant that there has been multiple reports complaining of the same thing. also a lot people actually have their consoles set up on a desk with their monitors. 5db is also a significant increase, especially if you’re using it on a desk. that’s why people spend a bunch of time in bioses to tweak fan curves.

This post has been edited by powerangah: Dec 3 2020, 11:38 PM
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post Dec 3 2020, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(Wijjog @ Dec 3 2020, 09:21 PM)
You guys are really missing the point doh.gif

No matter what it is still unfair for Sony to discriminate customers by giving some of them inferior units, especially when these customers are paying the same price. Everyone should get what they paid for

Stop appeasing, and at least just acknowledge the issue

This is why Sony dont even bother to come clean about it. Because they know even if they choose to cheap-out ya'll still eat it up rolleyes.gif
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Out of topic abit but samsung have been practicing this for many years already.. shipping exynos to non us region with the same price of that snapdragon version haha scamsung
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post Dec 3 2020, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(echothreealpha @ Dec 3 2020, 11:31 PM)
Some light reading on why relying on only dBA, is an incomplete measurement for unwanted noise would help you tbh.
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So you’re saying it’s inaudible regardless? But if you say one is 5dba louder than the other...isn’t that saying that one is already inferior... tongue.gif

QUOTE(izzat0amir @ Dec 3 2020, 11:45 PM)
Out of topic abit but samsung have been practicing this for many years already.. shipping exynos to non us region with the same price of that snapdragon version haha scamsung
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Yup and can’t say people are happy with that no? In exynos case you get more system memory than base snapdragon for the same price IINM (for latest note at least)



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post Dec 4 2020, 12:04 AM

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Welcome to the tech world. This fan issue is nothing compare to lcd panel lottery
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post Dec 4 2020, 12:12 AM

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QUOTE(madballs @ Dec 4 2020, 12:04 AM)
Welcome to the tech world. This fan issue is nothing compare to lcd panel lottery
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Lets judge it once everyone receive their console.

To be honest the noise very faint and drown by the tv speaker at least for me.

Nvdia AIB partners have this kind of moment as well with the POS caps vs mlcc . That one fixed by driver update but some users reports getting lower clock speed.

This post has been edited by shikimori: Dec 4 2020, 12:14 AM
Wijjog
post Dec 4 2020, 12:15 AM

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Okay lah give you guys a very simple scenario before bed:

Both you and I pay RM2299 for a disc version, and it turns out that my unit runs noticeably more quiet than yours due to difference in fan design (or/and coil whine for that matter).

Will you seriously be satisfied with that?
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post Dec 4 2020, 12:28 AM

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QUOTE(Wijjog @ Dec 4 2020, 12:15 AM)
Okay lah give you guys a very simple scenario before bed:

Both you and I pay RM2299 for a disc version, and it turns out that my unit runs noticeably more quiet than yours due to difference in fan design (or/and coil whine for that matter).

Will you seriously be satisfied with that?
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Scenario1: go to bed with tears becos still can't preorder a ps5.

Scenario2: say "aiseh man", and proceed to increase tv volume by 5 decibels.

Scenario3: diedie bring to sony centre ask for better fan/replacement. But get rejected becos the fan is by design and not faulty.

Thing is you feel unsatisfied becos u know some other ppl might have a better fan. Maybe the default fan is the louder one.
Chill la bro don't let it bother u.
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post Dec 4 2020, 12:31 AM

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QUOTE(izzat0amir @ Dec 3 2020, 11:45 PM)
Out of topic abit but samsung have been practicing this for many years already.. shipping exynos to non us region with the same price of that snapdragon version haha scamsung
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This is different argument la.
When you purchase your note its clearly stated the chip u are getting.

The concern here is all ps5 hardware suppose to be same.
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post Dec 4 2020, 12:37 AM

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QUOTE(HolyHuman2000 @ Dec 4 2020, 12:28 AM)
Scenario1: go to bed with tears becos still can't preorder a ps5.

Scenario2: say "aiseh man", and proceed to increase tv volume by 5 decibels.

Scenario3: diedie bring to sony centre ask for better fan/replacement. But get rejected becos the fan is by design and not faulty.

Thing is you feel unsatisfied becos u know some other ppl might have a better fan. Maybe the default fan is the louder one.
Chill la bro don't let it bother u.
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Theoretical question only. And I like your scenario 2 laugh.gif
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post Dec 4 2020, 12:41 AM

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Stop being so negative la.. here is some news for those who PO from Lowyat Sony Center. They said that they are expecting the pre order will be fulfilled on the launch date if there are no issues. And they MIGHT call to confirm this to those who POed. And one not so great news is they are not sure if PS5 games will be available on the same day.
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post Dec 4 2020, 12:42 AM

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QUOTE(Wijjog @ Dec 4 2020, 12:15 AM)
Okay lah give you guys a very simple scenario before bed:

Both you and I pay RM2299 for a disc version, and it turns out that my unit runs noticeably more quiet than yours due to difference in fan design (or/and coil whine for that matter).

Will you seriously be satisfied with that?
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You're talking to a guy who had his launch PS4 disc drive having issues two or three months after launch. Also drift in one of the Switch's joycons biggrin.gif

I'm very familar and expecting some issues for being an early adopter. Regardless, the fan noise is the least of my worries especially after knowing about the difference of both fans.

This post has been edited by echothreealpha: Dec 4 2020, 12:43 AM
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post Dec 4 2020, 12:43 AM

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QUOTE(HolyHuman2000 @ Dec 4 2020, 12:28 AM)
Scenario1: go to bed with tears becos still can't preorder a ps5.

Scenario2: say "aiseh man", and proceed to increase tv volume by 5 decibels.

Scenario3: diedie bring to sony centre ask for better fan/replacement. But get rejected becos the fan is by design and not faulty.

Thing is you feel unsatisfied becos u know some other ppl might have a better fan. Maybe the default fan is the louder one.
Chill la bro don't let it bother u.
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Scenario4: Sell the ps5. Profit.
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post Dec 4 2020, 12:44 AM

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QUOTE(wallance13 @ Dec 4 2020, 12:43 AM)
Scenario4: Sell the ps5. Profit.
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big big profit.
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post Dec 4 2020, 01:10 AM

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For people who made their orders through Sony Centers, have they been calling you to schedule pick-up? Or has no one gotten any word yet?
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post Dec 4 2020, 01:38 AM

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QUOTE(powerangah @ Dec 3 2020, 11:36 PM)
why should i stop nitpicking? is it hurting your feelings when an inanimate object is being criticised? it was designed in such a way that its massive and heavy, a huge tradeoff from last gen where the consoles were much smaller, but much louder also. and almost every single reviewer out there put an emphasis on the silence of ps5, so when people find out they’re not getting the same components it’s reasonable to assume the noise performance is not going to be the same either
iit must be pretty significant that there has been multiple reports complaining of the same thing. also a lot people actually have their consoles set up on a desk with their monitors. 5db is also a significant increase, especially if you’re using it on a desk. that’s why people spend a bunch of time in bioses to tweak fan curves.
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Hurt feelings ? Really you want to go that path . I don't know why are you so worked up over an inanimate object.

It's normal in the production industry to replace parts as long as it is functional and meeting the the requirement thats why there are new revision for the same thing. The complains that I have seen on reddit mostly about coil whine and disc spinning .

Don't want to come across as corporate stooge but that's what you get being an early adopter. Also be fair and judge only after receiving it stop speculating for something that is not definite . Stay positive !! Don't jump on bandwagon of something that could be a non issue or problem with something else. Wait till you got your unit then fire away ..

This post has been edited by shikimori: Dec 4 2020, 01:47 AM

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