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pravinsai
post Aug 12 2022, 12:37 AM

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QUOTE(josh5671 @ Aug 11 2022, 06:00 PM)
Just check out with any accessories shop you friend with.
You can get good deal of dsp and woofer sure know some shoo right?
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Found a few bro. But i was quoted 320 bucks without tuning by one shop and 500 with tuning by another. I’m originally from Ipoh currently residing in KL but damn it’s so hard to find a shop reasonably priced here.
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post Aug 12 2022, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(ipat88 @ Aug 10 2022, 12:16 PM)
went to showroom last week, planning to get the executive variant, back out when I realized price has increased by 10%. got plenty of ready stock at showroom now. seem many potential buyer also back off by the new selling price.
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ya man, same here. I was ready to take the plunge until i saw the new price......WTH!!!
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post Aug 12 2022, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(pravinsai @ Aug 12 2022, 12:37 AM)
Found a few bro. But i was quoted 320 bucks without tuning by one shop and 500 with tuning by another. I’m originally from Ipoh currently residing in KL but damn it’s so hard to find a shop reasonably priced here.
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I DIY install DSP is quite easy
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post Aug 12 2022, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(ycs @ Aug 12 2022, 11:34 AM)
I DIY install DSP is quite easy
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pravinsai
Agreed with ycs ,my 1st time maybe 30mins needed for installation, and 2nd time onwards maybe need only 15-20mins. (installed for my mom X50 too).

For tuning , you could also try to learn tune it on your first. Youtube is there to teach.
You probably need a good hear, audio file suitable for tuning use (I use white noise only) and then a good mic to pickup the frequency (I'm using Ipad Pro). Last a laptop for tuning.

Simple work around I learned/or using as follows:-

Assuming all your speakers all from factory (no mixing in positive and negative in the cabling) then no need to check for polar. {ignore this if cant follow, you don't need to).
1.
Set the centre of stage where you will be listening. Make adjustments by measuring distance between you and each speaker group. Most DSP allows you to key in the distance or delay in milliseconds (ms).
2.
Set your HU to flat output (minimum or no equaliser effect) to avoid any frequencies being filtered by HU.

Now repeats this for each speaker.
3.
I play white noise and using my Ipad Pro to pick the dsp frequencies. If you DSP is 31 channels please also look for app that can display 31 channels.
4.
From the white noise, you should get a reasonably flat line across all the frequency pickup by the good mic (my Ipad), if certain frequency is too low or too high try to adjust in the dsp program.
5.
To adjust, 1st try to filter the frequency according to the type of speakers that you having and you will wanted to limit the frequency range in each speaker.
Why? each speaker are designed to work in specific range, beyond the range may damage your speaker (if no hardware/capacitor filter there) and importantly with limited frequency range, the speaker can produce more accurate sound, example tweeter or front speaker dont like frequency below 5khz range and rear speakers don't like anything more than 16 or 20kHz range.
6.
Once you get the reasonably flat on those frequencies, try to tune all speakers have to similar output level not that front too soft or back too loud.
7.
Fine tuning on the speakers to your liking , for instance your like a more treble on front or back speakers or more bass or soft base or mid for vocal. (remember the rules, your speaker works better when given limited frequency range and work better in their destinated freq range.

Coming to subwoofer installation it was easier than I tot.
I don't have the right tool that thin and strong enough to pull the power cable from battery to the subwoofer , so I ended paying rm150 for accessories shop in Penang Island to help pull the cable and also get a nice RCA cables connected between the dsp and subwoofer.
Since my subwoofer have a very flat output, no tunning was needed for my subw. Just level adjust from the subw control itself.

End of my DIY story. Thanks for reading .

This post has been edited by muncheno: Aug 12 2022, 03:03 PM
pravinsai
post Aug 12 2022, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(muncheno @ Aug 12 2022, 12:25 PM)
pravinsai
Agreed with ycs ,my 1st time maybe 30mins needed for installation, and 2nd time onwards maybe need only 15-20mins. (installed for my mom X50 too).

For tuning , you could also try to learn tune it on your first. Youtube is there to teach.
You probably need a good hear, audio file suitable for tuning use (I use white noise only) and then a good mic to pickup the frequency (I'm using Ipad Pro). Last a laptop for tuning.

Simple work around I learned/or using as follows:-

Assuming all your speakers all from factory (no mixing in positive and negative in the cabling) then no need to check for polar. {ignore this if cant follow, you don't need to).
1.
Set the centre of stage where you will be listening. Make adjustments by measuring distance between you and each speaker group. Most DSP allows you to key in the distance or delay in milliseconds (ms).
2.
Set your HU to flat output (minimum or no equaliser effect) to avoid any frequencies being filtered by HU.

Now repeats this for each speaker.
3.
I play white noise and using my Ipad Pro to pick the dsp frequencies. If you DSP is 31 channels please also look for app that can display 31 channels.
4.
From the white noise, you should get a reasonably flat line across all the frequency pickup by the good mic (my Ipad), if certain frequency is too low or too high try to adjust in the dsp program.
5.
To adjust, 1st try to filter the frequency according to the type of speakers that you having and you will wanted to limit the frequency range in each speaker.
Why? each speaker are designed work in specific range, beyond the range may damage your speaker (if no hardware/capacitor filter there) and importantly with limited frequency range, the speaker can produce more accurate sound, example tweeter or front speaker dont like frequency below 5khz range and rear speakers don't like anything more than 16 or 20kHz range.
6.
Once you get the reasonably flat on those frequencies, try to tune all speakers have to similar output level not that front too soft or back too loud.
7.
Fine tuning on the speakers to your liking , for instance your like a more treble on front or back speakers or more bass or soft base or mid for vocal. (remember the rules, your speaker works better when given limited frequency range and work better in their destinated freq range.

Coming to subwoofer installation it was easier than I tot.
I don't have the right tool that thin and strong enough to pull the power cable from battery to the subwoofer , so I ended paying rm150 for accessories shop in Penang Island to help pull the cable and also get a nice RCA cables connected between the dsp and subwoofer.
Since my subwoofer have a very flat output, no running was needed for my subw. Just level adjust from the subw control itself.

End of my DIY story. Thanks for reading .
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This explanation was perfect bro. I remember reading your post here and got the same setup for my car too. Audexon D1680 and the blaupunkt gtr130 active sub.

I have saved your tuning files and was planning to apply the same setting for my car.

I managed to install the dsp just today and I’ve just managed to find a shop that was willing to help me install the subwoofer for RM 150. I needed help with running the cable from the battery to the sun too. Oh well, 150 is okay with me compared to spending 300-500 bucks just for installation. Haha thank you so much for the amazing explanation sir. You have a great day!

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post Aug 12 2022, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(muncheno @ Aug 12 2022, 12:25 PM)
pravinsai
Agreed with ycs ,my 1st time maybe 30mins needed for installation, and 2nd time onwards maybe need only 15-20mins. (installed for my mom X50 too).

For tuning , you could also try to learn tune it on your first. Youtube is there to teach.
You probably need a good hear, audio file suitable for tuning use (I use white noise only) and then a good mic to pickup the frequency (I'm using Ipad Pro). Last a laptop for tuning.

Simple work around I learned/or using as follows:-

Assuming all your speakers all from factory (no mixing in positive and negative in the cabling) then no need to check for polar. {ignore this if cant follow, you don't need to).
1.
Set the centre of stage where you will be listening. Make adjustments by measuring distance between you and each speaker group. Most DSP allows you to key in the distance or delay in milliseconds (ms).
2.
Set your HU to flat output (minimum or no equaliser effect) to avoid any frequencies being filtered by HU.

Now repeats this for each speaker.
3.
I play white noise and using my Ipad Pro to pick the dsp frequencies. If you DSP is 31 channels please also look for app that can display 31 channels.
4.
From the white noise, you should get a reasonably flat line across all the frequency pickup by the good mic (my Ipad), if certain frequency is too low or too high try to adjust in the dsp program.
5.
To adjust, 1st try to filter the frequency according to the type of speakers that you having and you will wanted to limit the frequency range in each speaker.
Why? each speaker are designed work in specific range, beyond the range may damage your speaker (if no hardware/capacitor filter there) and importantly with limited frequency range, the speaker can produce more accurate sound, example tweeter or front speaker dont like frequency below 5khz range and rear speakers don't like anything more than 16 or 20kHz range.
6.
Once you get the reasonably flat on those frequencies, try to tune all speakers have to similar output level not that front too soft or back too loud.
7.
Fine tuning on the speakers to your liking , for instance your like a more treble on front or back speakers or more bass or soft base or mid for vocal. (remember the rules, your speaker works better when given limited frequency range and work better in their destinated freq range.

Coming to subwoofer installation it was easier than I tot.
I don't have the right tool that thin and strong enough to pull the power cable from battery to the subwoofer , so I ended paying rm150 for accessories shop in Penang Island to help pull the cable and also get a nice RCA cables connected between the dsp and subwoofer.
Since my subwoofer have a very flat output, no running was needed for my subw. Just level adjust from the subw control itself.

End of my DIY story. Thanks for reading .
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Appreciated your explain. Actually your explain much easier to understand, especially for someone like me not hardcore audiophile.
I random/strategy make the time alignment middle of the car, so i make compromise for angle.because if you align it to driver seat, other seat hear the song will a bit off.

Me currently using 31eq dsp+sub
Front 125-22khz -6db
Rear 75-22khz -6db
Will try retune with your guide.
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post Aug 12 2022, 02:46 PM

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Wonder how much akotek paid paultan to keep promoting atlas. This ads keep showing on my fb. 😂😂
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Wonder how much akotek paid paultan to keep promoting atlas. This ads keep showing on my fb. 😂😂

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post Aug 12 2022, 03:42 PM

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did u guys use fuel 97 for ur X50? some friend of mine said pump 97 once a while can clean up ur fuel tank and have better performance..
performance wise i believe it is better, but how bout mileage? the same litre of fuel, 97 can fo further?

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Yeah i blocked and avoid anything P-tan after that Android 10 fiasco. What a sellout company. Can never trust them for anything car-related from now on. Zero integrity.
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post Aug 12 2022, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(kiien_kyan @ Aug 12 2022, 03:42 PM)
did u guys use fuel 97 for ur X50? some friend of mine said pump 97 once a while can clean up ur fuel tank and have better performance..
performance wise i believe it is better, but how bout mileage? the same litre of fuel, 97 can fo further?
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No difference
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post Aug 12 2022, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(kiien_kyan @ Aug 12 2022, 03:42 PM)
did u guys use fuel 97 for ur X50? some friend of mine said pump 97 once a while can clean up ur fuel tank and have better performance..
performance wise i believe it is better, but how bout mileage? the same litre of fuel, 97 can fo further?
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wouldn't 2 tanks of ron 95 go further than a tank of ron 97 if RM/km is your concern?
if your car does not specifically require you to fill in ron 97, it would not have much difference

better perfomance, maybe yes maybe no maybe placebo.
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post Aug 15 2022, 10:00 AM

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Waiting for 3 months and counting... totally no news from SA.
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post Aug 15 2022, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(Applejulce @ Aug 15 2022, 10:00 AM)
Waiting for 3 months and counting... totally no news from SA.
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believe it or not

i know one have waited 15months lol

7 for me, so 3 is so fresh
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post Aug 16 2022, 06:20 AM

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QUOTE(Grimoire @ Aug 11 2022, 10:28 AM)
anyone have issue with s22?

s22 with latest google patch cannot open proton link nor atlas. the apps is crashing.
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Dang I have the same problem with my phone. Luckily I have another phone to work with.
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post Aug 16 2022, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(mrvkool @ Aug 16 2022, 06:20 AM)
Dang I have the same problem with my phone. Luckily I have another phone to work with.
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Look like someone posted the update from ACO Tech, seem like for fixing on your issue here.

Check it yourself, I have no idea with it.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/px50cm/perm...59513957736317/
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QUOTE(muncheno @ Aug 16 2022, 04:15 PM)
Look like someone posted the update from ACO Tech, seem like for fixing on your issue here.

Check it yourself, I have no idea with it.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/px50cm/perm...59513957736317/
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It's fixed with the update. Thanks
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post Aug 16 2022, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(kiien_kyan @ Aug 12 2022, 03:42 PM)
did u guys use fuel 97 for ur X50? some friend of mine said pump 97 once a while can clean up ur fuel tank and have better performance..
performance wise i believe it is better, but how bout mileage? the same litre of fuel, 97 can fo further?
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With my driving style, made no to little difference. Maybe placebo.

Maybe if you have big budget, you can try long distance driving comparing both fuels.

Maybe Ron 97 would give more mileage for long distance.

However, since they are blardy expensive now, I don't think the extra mileage justifies the cost of getting premium fuel.
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post Aug 17 2022, 02:56 PM

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Which polish to use for X50 Passion Red?

user posted image

Any other good/suitable polish, please recommend.
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post Aug 17 2022, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(n8210 @ Aug 17 2022, 02:56 PM)
Which polish to use for X50 Passion Red?

user posted image

Any other good/suitable polish, please recommend.
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just like any other car and colour, mostly the same je any polish will do. depends on padding used and machine, less on product

id usually polish outside as no point for me to buy it and polish it like once in 2 years sweat.gif

plus people with coating / LSP after polish less likely to polish again, already seal everything

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