I think you should refer to picture below for better comparison on maintenance cost.


Edited: I also don't think Honda engine oil will only cost MYR 84 for 4L, typical Syntactic oil will easily cost over RM1XX, especially honda.
Of course the comparison here also not right do with Honda from 2015.

This post has been edited by muncheno: Oct 13 2020, 08:55 AM

I agreed, overall scheduled maintenance price for Proton is more than Honda by ~1k over 5 years, or ~1.5 to 2k over 10 years.

Of course the arguments here, that the car value easily offset the price of maintenance, since Honda for the same class is easily 20-30% more expensive.
Honda do have better reselling value than Proton.

Hopefully X50 and X70 will be the changing point for Proton.
Meanwhile Honda quality is getting more complaints and maintenance cost for non-routine components are getting more expansive.
(FYI, I do own a Honda City)

End of the day, it is your choice.

On 27th Oct will inform you the pricing but but.... actual launching date in Jan 2021.



This post has been edited by muncheno: Oct 16 2020, 03:12 PM

Want to get your input here.

X50 is using torsion beam suspension on the back vs. X70 using multilink with stabiliser.

What is the pro and con you would see?

For X50
Pro:
Cheaper to maintain.
More tune for sport (more durable).

Less space occupied yet still small boot space for X50. 😑

Cons:
Less comfort?? due to limited tuning can be done by proton.
More noisy??

Marketing talks, if confirm already given a confirm date.
Look like they Proton also cant confirm themselves.

Proton has announce on their FB the launching date is now confirmed on 27-Oct.
If you are lucky, you may also able to see the car in your nearby Proton showroom.

Edite: Oops, I'm a noob. I can't paste the link directly here.

paultan . org /2020/10/22/2020-proton-x50-launching-in-malaysia-on-october-27/


This post has been edited by muncheno: Oct 22 2020, 12:49 PM

Can start test drive after next week.
Next week launching, too crowded for test drive, unless you have special jalan.. 😁

For those who confirmed the order.

Noob question here.
Did you get any free gift or discount from SA or Proton?

Last time we get around 2k~3k discount for Honda city and maybe for MyVi get rm500 discount and also full tank or some basic accessories.

Saw in youtube X70, possible to sideload apk after entered special code in the menu.

Today, just tested the X50 flagship at Bayan Lepas, Penang.
I also confirmed my order for the flagship.

According to the SA, the center itself already achieve 200 confirmed ordered up to-date, for my order here expected around Mar-2021 for delivery date. (I booked on 19-Oct).

Not sure I should be worry, the auto parking does not work on this morning, seem like front sensors got issue. Seems Proton's quality for 1st batch is still not up to level.

On the positive side, the car is really fun to drive. Coming from old cars like Peugeot 2007, Myvi (1st gen), Honda City -VTEC with pedal shift; I would said it is very responsive and powerful.
Feeling is like driving a sport car performance (I only drove around 70 to 120km/h in a short range).

Then also drove the X70 for comparison, 1st impression, the front view seem lower than X50.
Maybe due X50 seat is being adjust to higher, the X70 also feel like seeing in wider angle.

On my noob driving comparison (around 70-100km/h), the sport mode on X70 is just like the X50 on normal mode. For ECO mode on X70, I have to agree it is abit sluggish, while X50 is still good for my comfort.
When come to X50 sport mode, it is damn fun with those raw power, I do feel more like driving a sport car kind of power.

Then on the comfort level, I don't significant better with X70 on city. Perhaps better when running on highway due to more solid and heavy car.
No doubt here X70 is a notch better NVH and interior look more classy than sporty X50.

On different perspective here, one distinct different for me is the braking, X50 is very responsive (braking according to how hard your foot pressing) and you don't really feel like any jerking alike or lagging alike here when compare to X70. While both braking is responsive, X70 is much more heavier, my psychology feeling is the car is leaning forward when braking.


Besides the driving performance here, overall X50 flagship is my choice over X70 executive.
Power, safety and size are my major preferences here which X50 is better.
X70 do feel more executive car (like my old Peugeot vs. Honda City), interior is classy, but to me a bit boring for my preference.
Dual tone with the floating screen and simplify in buttons attracted me more and also the bucket seat does make your feel more secure during cornering.

Lastly, I think X50 on long term maintenance cost would be lower than X70 (at least on globally X50/Binyue/Coolray volume is higher than X70/Boyue).
However it is also half toward the Volvo XC40 maintenance cost

It is getting too long here, thanks for reading.
Just my 2-cents.

orange

Hi Proton,

How do we charge the key fob? and;
How to start the car when key fob is running low on power or no power.

I didn't check earlier with SA.

Anyone here know how?
Thanks.

Thanks, I found same info for X70.

However, just now I was surprised the review from this youtuber, the SA told him that inside the arm rest bottom compartment actually wireless charging for the key fob.

(start from 11:15 mins)
https://youtu.be/h1W39fZ_R1Y

I also noticed x50 key fob have a small flat rectangular button at the middle bottom.

My guess this is for withdrawal the physical key to open car door. Then place the low battery key fob inside the arm rest compartment to start the car.

This post has been edited by muncheno: Nov 4 2020, 08:59 PM

Thanks, fixed the link.
Sorry, not good with posting with my phone.

I saw in FB, this is how the key look like.

I saw in FB, accessories shop offered for 1st 5 customers at Rm1580 with foot sensor also.

It is true that most SA don't know the details.
For instant the SA I'm dealing with, he told me just went for 2 hrs training.

Do you expect 2 hrs can become expert after that?
With 2 hours, it is is more like any customer go see the car then look at the brochure and maybe a short test drive.

I think it is very helpful to create a separate thread on X50 defects.
It is also good to share that thread with Proton, so they and customer know how bad is their QC dept.

In 2021, I will look forward to test drive Perodua D55L.

No doubt X50 is fun to drive and packed with advance safety features

I'm hoping D55L offering at similar safety features. Didnt aspect anonymous L2 driving, but let said D55L able offer at similar comfort and safety, I don't mind 1.0 turbo engine at below Rm70k.

Another options is also Yaris crossover, but I doubt it is similar price range.
If were go above X50, likely to look X70 if there is facelift or upgrade in 2021 version.

But again, don't have too much confidence with Proton.
Screw up marketing that make customers wait and never provide sufficient training and information for their SA or dealer.

Then now 1st batch customers receiving cars with so many obvious defects.
Can you imagine those that you cant see? I will recommend we should wait longer, not to rush for car delivery in 2020. Proton is not really ready, all signs and feedback obviously demonstrated to you.

Lastly their 3s or 4s services still not par with any Japanese car dealers or also far from Perodua level.

Simply comparison here that you have to wait 3-4 hrs needed for Proton to do a normal service vs within 1 hr from Perodua.

Seems to me Proton never set level or KPI for theie dealers to maintain certain quality aspects.

For sharing, this morning I just got the queuing list for X50 from the 3S branch in Penang.

Guess which is most favourite color and least color for the flagship?

Based on the incomplete list, around 4X% out of 2XX cars from that branch are white color.
Surprisingly, ~3X% are cash buyer.

The least color is actually Ocean Blue, only 1 in the list.

I'm ordering Citrus Orange, I'm among the top on the list out of the 8 order.

So for those who wanted to to jump que, I guess getting Ocean Blue maybe faster.